Pompey Takeover Saga

[View From The Top]

Reminds me of a certain Saints with gates of 9k, 10k, 11k and 13k regularly in the 90's in the top flight, before you got your new ground. Dont tell me that was becasue you were carp then - I am sure you werent is carp as we are now although maybe the football is as bad;)

 

I'm sure you can back that up?

 

Oh wait, you can't.

[redkeith]

Perhaps he is confusing us with St Mirren, or St Johnstone ?

 

Having been a season ticket holder since 78, I can remember a few low gates in 83, after Keegan left, and the FA cup game against Port Vale where the crowd was just over 10K, but that was in the middle of the Branfoot protests, and so was due to boycotts. As soon as Branfoot was sacked, we were back up to near full houses again.

[SW11_Saint]

I'm sure you can back that up?

 

Oh wait, you can't.

Wishful thinking on his part. Perhaps upset that we're getting bigger gates at the bottom of League 1 than they're mustering in the Premier League...

Says it all!

[aintforever]

Think he's probably more upset by the fact that the Skates used to get crowds of 7K when they were in the league ABOVE us.

 

Our demise has been depressing but at least it has settled the "who is the biggest" argument once and for all, even allowing for our superior stadium the stats are quite clear, Southampton is at least a third bigger in terms of support.

[OldNick]

Think he's probably more upset by the fact that the Skates used to get crowds of 7K when they were in the league ABOVE us.

 

Our demise has been depressing but at least it has settled the "who is the biggest" argument once and for all, even allowing for our superior stadium the stats are quite clear, Southampton is at least a third bigger in terms of support.

it has quelled their claims of being a sleeping giant.For 25 years or more i heard that from them, how they'd fill their 36k stadium easily.Well when they went up with Bally they didnt and now in the razzmatazz days of the 'best league in the world' they don't.

The PL is becoming a dud.

[NickG]

Reminds me of a certain Saints with gates of 9k, 10k, 11k and 13k regularly in the 90's in the top flight, before you got your new ground. Dont tell me that was becasue you were carp then - I am sure you werent is carp as we are now although maybe the football is as bad;)

 

skates, current average crowd in prem - 17,633

 

Saints, current average in league 1 (bottom) 18,781.

 

1982 skates in equiv of league 1 -average 8,544.

 

1995 skates in CCC -average 8,268

 

Saints lowest average in last 30 years was in 14,500

[dubai_phil]

info been passed on tonight - tax bill paid.

 

 

Phew, what a busy day. Not had much time to pop on here.

 

Did I miss the Press release about the Tax Bill?

 

Or were they far too busy selling tickets for the next match?

[Gingeletiss]

Phew, what a busy day. Not had much time to pop on here.

 

Did I miss the Press release about the Tax Bill?

 

Or were they far too busy selling tickets for the next match?/QUOTE]

 

Sold out they say!!!!!!!

[OldNick]

Phew, what a busy day. Not had much time to pop on here.

 

Did I miss the Press release about the Tax Bill?

 

Or were they far too busy selling tickets for the next match?/QUOTE]

 

Sold out they say!!!!!!!

it was a dead cert that HR's return would sell out. A large away support and the plastics wanting to watch the stars playing for Spurs.Whatrs the betting bottler Crouch has an injury?

[Evil Monkey]

I cant wait for the homecoming this weekend. P*mpey's super fans will cheer their own team on for about 10 minutes (or until they're 3 down. Which ever comes first), then they will sing Harry's name and applaud Defoe when he bangs in number 5. Football pundits everywhere will praise their sportsmanship and general good nature, and Tom Huddlestone will be given the freedom of the city.

[OldNick]

I cant wait for the homecoming this weekend. P*mpey's super fans will cheer their own team on for about 10 minutes (or until they're 3 down. Which ever comes first), then they will sing Harry's name and applaud Defoe when he bangs in number 5. Football pundits everywhere will praise their sportsmanship and general good nature, and Tom Huddlestone will be given the freedom of the city.

lol that would be funny if it happened, but the gorillas will be out in force. they will bang their drums ring the bells and HR's lilly livered fancy dans will roll over.

Im going to put money on a Pompey victory

[Merovingian]

Phew, what a busy day. Not had much time to pop on here.

 

Did I miss the Press release about the Tax Bill?

 

Or were they far too busy selling tickets for the next match?

 

 

lol - why on earth would they do a press release....

 

erm...do attendances matter then, silly me I thought it was divisional status, results and recent trophies ?

 

Doh !

[Merovingian]

I cant wait for the homecoming this weekend. P*mpey's super fans will cheer their own team on for about 10 minutes (or until they're 3 down. Which ever comes first), then they will sing Harry's name and applaud Defoe when he bangs in number 5. Football pundits everywhere will praise their sportsmanship and general good nature, and Tom Huddlestone will be given the freedom of the city.

 

suspect its going to be a very hostile environment down fratton for the 10k that turn up

[benjii]

Hilarious interview with Redknapp on R5 earlier. Banging on about being their "best manager ever" and making them a profit on Defoe.

[mack rill]

lol that would be funny if it happened, but the gorillas will be out in force. they will bang their drums ring the bells and HR's lilly livered fancy dans will roll over.

Im going to put money on a Pompey victory

 

it will be like watching the 1st team playing the reserve, The only ? is which side are the reserves,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Huffton]

Wonder if the Vicky Pollard lookalike with the Judas poster will be there?

[dubai_phil]

lol - why on earth would they do a press release....

 

erm...do attendances matter then, silly me I thought it was divisional status, results and recent trophies ?

 

Doh !

 

Dear Lord, like getting blood out of a stone.

 

I take that as a no then.

 

So they haven't felt it necessary to ease the stress of their fans by informing them that the (rumoured) 6 months of PAYE NI & VAT have been paid with the funds from the new owner(s)?

 

OK cool , now because I don't understand tax and stuff, are there any special rules about being 6 months in arrears to those guys?

 

But I'm sure you were ITK with your info and they were too busy, so well done and no probs

[Merovingian]

so...the papers were printing rumour like you state, then why would the club come out and substantiate rumours by claiming the tax bill was paid. I am quite happy with the way things are going and would prefer we keep our affairs away from the press as much as possible. Most fans knew we had until the 16th, if we get past that date it probably means we are ok for now, I also have not come across masses of us who are/have been stressed about this so I don't know where you get that idea from....actions speak louder than words or press releases. The wait and see continues but the signs are more postitive than negative

[the colonel]

Met one of the blue few tonight near Oxford. Quiet amusing.

 

Q. Asked him whether the necessary monies were through to prevent admin'.

A. errrr didn't know. errrrr what money.....errrr ain't 'eard we gone outta business

 

Q. could be hard times or good?

A. errrr but we won the FA Cup last year

 

Q. that wasn't the question, but was it worth jeopardising your club?

A. errrr well we won the FA Cup that what matters

 

Q. so the FA Cup more important than your club?

A. yeah we won the cup.

 

Others laughed at him (no not Saints Fans) while he looked confused as to why? We left him to it.

[dune]

It looks as if the blue few will be one fewer on matchdays.

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2679960/Mum-held-over-paedo-photos-is-nursery-worker.html

 

http://thepompeychimes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=51444&start=0

 

"A PREGNANT mother of eight who is the latest alleged pervert seized over a Facebook paedophile ring is a SECOND nursery nurse, The Sun can reveal."

 

"A former neighbour yesterday described her as "a fat, unkempt woman" who let her own kids run wild."

 

"The family are understood to be big fans of Portsmouth FC"

[OldNick]

so...the papers were printing rumour like you state, then why would the club come out and substantiate rumours by claiming the tax bill was paid. I am quite happy with the way things are going and would prefer we keep our affairs away from the press as much as possible. Most fans knew we had until the 16th, if we get past that date it probably means we are ok for now, I also have not come across masses of us who are/have been stressed about this so I don't know where you get that idea from....actions speak louder than words or press releases. The wait and see continues but the signs are more postitive than negative

I expect they are worried if it became public that the bill had been paid all the other creditors would line up as well.

You were correct that you said all along it was a consortium, I was wrong there.

If the consortium are welathy the 10m tax bill will be nothing, if they have only paid a slice off then things wont look so clever of course.

Are they still Middle eastern or do you think they are from elsewhere?

[benjii]

It looks as if the blue few will be one fewer on matchdays.

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2679960/Mum-held-over-paedo-photos-is-nursery-worker.html

 

http://thepompeychimes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=51444&start=0

 

"A PREGNANT mother of eight who is the latest alleged pervert seized over a Facebook paedophile ring is a SECOND nursery nurse, The Sun can reveal."

 

"A former neighbour yesterday described her as "a fat, unkempt woman" who let her own kids run wild."

 

"The family are understood to be big fans of Portsmouth FC"

 

Yes, that doesn't surprise me at all.

[PompeyInReading]

I'm sure you can back that up?

 

Oh wait, you can't.

 

English Premier

Southampton

2 (0) - 1(0) Middlesbro

At The Dell on 29-08-1992

Attendance: 13003

 

 

English Premier

Southampton

2 (0) - 2(0) MK Dons

At The Dell on 17-10-1992

Attendance: 11221

 

English Premier

Southampton

1 (0) - 0(0) Oldham

At The Dell on 31-10-1992

Attendance: 10827

 

English Premier

Southampton

3 (2) - 0(0) Norwich

At The Dell on 10-02-1993

Attendance: 12969

 

Let me know if you need anymore (there are plenty more). Yes, these attendance figures are before the Premiership bubble, so add on another 5 or 6k for that and your pretty much at what we get.

 

Like for like our all time average attendance is higher than yours

The fact is the stadium makes all the difference. Everybody knows that. It is basic business principles.

[Pancake]

MK Dons in the Prem? not sure what site you are using, but I question its integrity!

[View From The Top]

English Premier

Southampton

2 (0) - 1(0) Middlesbro

At The Dell on 29-08-1992

Attendance: 13003

 

 

English Premier

Southampton

2 (0) - 2(0) MK Dons

At The Dell on 17-10-1992

Attendance: 11221

 

English Premier

Southampton

1 (0) - 0(0) Oldham

At The Dell on 31-10-1992

Attendance: 10827

 

English Premier

Southampton

3 (2) - 0(0) Norwich

At The Dell on 10-02-1993

Attendance: 12969

 

Let me know if you need anymore (there are plenty more). Yes, these attendance figures are before the Premiership bubble, so add on another 5 or 6k for that and your pretty much at what we get.

 

Like for like our all time average attendance is higher than yours

The fact is the stadium makes all the difference. Everybody knows that. It is basic business principles.

 

So 4 games from 92/93 are clear evidence of us getting "regular" low crowds throughout the 90s?

 

Try again mush.

[warsash saint]

English Premier

Southampton

2 (0) - 1(0) Middlesbro

At The Dell on 29-08-1992

Attendance: 13003

 

 

English Premier

Southampton

2 (0) - 2(0) MK Dons

At The Dell on 17-10-1992

Attendance: 11221

 

English Premier

Southampton

1 (0) - 0(0) Oldham

At The Dell on 31-10-1992

Attendance: 10827

 

English Premier

Southampton

3 (2) - 0(0) Norwich

At The Dell on 10-02-1993

Attendance: 12969

 

Let me know if you need anymore (there are plenty more). Yes, these attendance figures are before the Premiership bubble, so add on another 5 or 6k for that and your pretty much at what we get.

 

Like for like our all time average attendance is higher than yours

The fact is the stadium makes all the difference. Everybody knows that. It is basic business principles.

 

So statto....where's the evidence of regular attendances of 9k

 

Note to SkateinReading - must try harder.

[PompeyInReading]

So 4 games from 92/93 are clear evidence of us getting "regular" low crowds throughout the 90s?

 

Try again mush.

 

Well, 3 x 17k crowds is not evidence either by that token.

 

They were just the first ones I tried. There are many, many more. dont beleive me - or more like dont want to?

 

http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=225718

 

Have a look yourself, there is a nice 9k one in there as well. 93/94 season mostly 15k on a capacity of 19k - I know that cos the last game of the season was 19k (I am assuming you did not draft in a temporary stand or something)

 

Please, dont get me wrong - I think Saints are a great club (Much better than Reading etc) and I am actually proud to have you as rivals. But, lets not pretend that you havent been thru roughly we were are going thru. There is a reason why our all time ave attendances are with 1k of each other. We are very similar clubs and that what makes this rivalry so great. But let not pretend you ahve always had 30k in the prem. At least accept that a LOT of that is to do with the new ground. BTW I am not saying Pompey has always been well supported either

[View From The Top]

Well, 3 x 17k crowds is not evidence either by that token.

 

They were just the first ones I tried. There are many, many more. dont beleive me - or more like dont want to?

 

http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=225718

 

Have a look yourself, there is a nice 9k one in there as well. 93/94 season mostly 15k on a capacity of 19k - I know that cos the last game of the season was 19k (I am assuming you did not draft in a temporary stand or something)

 

Please, dont get me wrong - I think Saints are a great club (Much better than Reading etc) and I am actually proud to have you as rivals. But, lets not pretend that you havent been thru roughly we were are going thru. There is a reason why our all time ave attendances are with 1k of each other. We are very similar clubs and that what makes this rivalry so great. But let not pretend you ahve always had 30k in the prem. At least accept that a LOT of that is to do with the new ground. BTW I am not saying Pompey has always been well supported either

 

So, let's get this right.

 

92/93 93/94 our gates were down. Why? As mentioned earlier in the thread, Branfoot.

 

Now, go and fine, outside of those two seasons, evidence of regular gates of 9K, 10K, 11K and 12K throughout the 90s.

 

Oh, you can't.

[benjii]

So, let's get this right.

 

92/93 93/94 our gates were down. Why? As mentioned earlier in the thread, Branfoot.

 

Now, go and fine, outside of those two seasons, evidence of regular gates of 9K, 10K, 11K and 12K throughout the 90s.

 

Oh, you can't.

 

Er, ok. But what's the difference between "Branfoot" and "Sheikh Ya Booty"?

[GenevaSaint]

Have a look yourself, there is a nice 9k one in there as well. 93/94 season mostly 15k on a capacity of 19k - I know that cos the last game of the season was 19k (I am assuming you did not draft in a temporary stand or something)

 

I thought we were down to 15k in 93-94 after the move to all seater. Anyway, '94 onwards graph is on the attached link.

 

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats2/eng_southampton.htm

 

Just for fun here are Pompeys figures. Why do Pompey have 600 - 700 staff? Are they all Harry's loan signings that never play ;-)

 

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats2/eng_portsmouth.htm

[aintforever]

Er, ok. But what's the difference between "Branfoot" and "Sheikh Ya Booty"?

 

Big difference, all they are doing under the Sheikh is living within their means, we did that for 30 years. And we regularly sold out a 32K stadium whilst suffering the same type of regeme as Mr Sheikh.

[alehouseboys]

Er, ok. But what's the difference between "Branfoot" and "Sheikh Ya Booty"?

 

But they struggled to fill little fartton before the Sheikh.

 

Bit of perspective needed...when we got a few lower gates in the early 90s during the 'Branfoot Out' campaign (lowest 10,800) crowds were low all over the country (eg skates 5k-ish). In those days Chelsea had home gates under 10k, West Ham, Everton, Villa all regularly well under 20k, sign of the times.

 

Branfoot sacked, job done.

 

The Prem changed it for everyone. Once the Dell went 15k all-seater we had a 'restricted' ST/Membership of something like 25k with a 5-year waiting list for a ST. This was years before we moved to SMS. All to watch a team constanstly fighting relegation, you've just had an unbelievable 5 or 6 years and the first sign of trouble your 'fans/JCLs' start deserting in their droves.

 

And what did happen to the 1000s we were told about that were gonna fill 30k fartton park when promoted in the 80s...average gate 17k that long-awaited season...did they all get lost?

[View From The Top]

Er, ok. But what's the difference between "Branfoot" and "Sheikh Ya Booty"?

 

I'll take it you are too young to have been around then.

[benjii]

I'll take it you are too young to have been around then.

 

No, I was there. It just seems that we are being a bit selective in somehow saying that our reason for not going was noble whereas Pompey's is derisory.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think we are a bigger club than them. Maybe not over the entire lifetime of the two clubs but our general dominance over thirty years of the commercialisation of the game ensured that we are now.

[View From The Top]

No, I was there. It just seems that we are being a bit selective in somehow saying that our reason for not going was noble whereas Pompey's is derisory.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think we are a bigger club than them. Maybe not over the entire lifetime of the two clubs but our general dominance over thirty years of the commercialisation of the game ensured that we are now.

 

Our dip was due to organised boycotts.

 

Their poor gates (I don't mean now as ££ is driving that) were due to what?

 

The simple plain truth is that despite our league position our gates have held up and put the skates to shame.

 

They are shocked by our gates and, TBH, I am to a degree.

 

I wouldn't be shocked to see well over 20K against franchise FC.

[GenevaSaint]

Like for like our all time average attendance is higher than yours

 

Lets go for 1947 onwards as I like the results :-D

 

Saints Avg 19104

Pompey Avg 17364

 

"1st Division Avg"

Saints 19621

Pompey 27270 ( jcls :-) )

 

As you point out though, it's not like for like due to the stadium limitations for both clubs.

 

"2nd Divison Avg"

Saints 19363

Pompey 13304

 

"3rd Division Avg"

Saints 15755 (includes 5 seasons in div 3 south averaging 14k)

Pompey 12362

[Corporate Ho]

92/93 93/94 our gates were down. Why? As mentioned earlier in the thread, Branfoot.

 

Now, go and fine, outside of those two seasons, evidence of regular gates of 9K, 10K, 11K and 12K throughout the 90s.

 

Oh, you can't.

 

Maybe not 9 - 12K but looking at that website puts to bed once and for all the myth that The Dell was always sold out and that you couldn't get a ticket. Leaving aside all the games during the 92/ 93 and 93/ 94 seasons you mentioned (there must have been a lot of games boycotted those years - LOL) in season 94/ 95 (when your capacity seems to have been around 15,200 (that's your biggest gates anyway) there were 9 games where you failed to sell out by significant number and 6 games the following season where the same happened. What happened to all those people on waiting lists for ST's? PMSL.

 

In 93/ 94 you had a game where you got less than 13,000 and another of barely over 13,000, plus plenty in the low 14,000's. Same the following season. What happened? Was it a carry over from the Branfoot "boycotts" like in Spinal Tap where they said the support band were so bad the crowd were still booing him when they were on stage? Couldn't sell out The Dell - PMSL.

 

Big difference, all they are doing under the Sheikh is living within their means, we did that for 30 years. And we regularly sold out a 32K stadium whilst suffering the same type of regeme as Mr Sheikh.

 

Just how many times have you sold out the 32,000 capacity at St Mary's? How many times exactly in the years you've been there?

 

But they struggled to fill little fartton before the Sheikh. You've just had an unbelievable 5 or 6 years and the first sign of trouble your 'fans/JCLs' start deserting in their droves.

 

Struggled to fill it? Another myth you keep trying to peddle on here. Average across the 6 seasons since we were promoted is 19,990 per game (see link). In a stadium that holds just over 20,000. Struggle to fill it - LOL

 

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/england.htm

[Guest Dark Sotonic Mills]

 

 

Struggled to fill it? Another myth you keep trying to peddle on here. Average across the 6 seasons since we were promoted is 19,990 per game (see link). In a stadium that holds just over 20,000. Struggle to fill it - LOL

 

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/england.htm

 

I think you'll find that is the average of all matches home and away, and the higher attendances at virtually every other ground you play at boosts your average.

 

The average attendance at FP is certainly not 19,900 over the last 6 years.

[Corporate Ho]

I think you'll find that is the average of all matches home and away, and the higher attendances at virtually every other ground you play at boosts your average.

 

The average attendance at FP is certainly not 19,900 over the last 6 years.

 

In that case, would you care to explain to me how many teams in the PL have grounds of a capacity between 67,000 and 75,000? Because that's what Man Utds average has been for the past few years. Unless, of course, the website calculates it's stats on the repective team's home games only, which means the average attendance at Fratton is 19,900 over the last 6 years.

 

Or will you admit you're wrong?

 

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/england.htm

[Scummer]

It adds 50% of the gate for away cup games. Therefore an away match in the cup at somewhere like Old Trafford for example, would bump up the Portsmouth average.

[View From The Top]

Maybe not 9 - 12K but looking at that website puts to bed once and for all the myth that The Dell was always sold out and that you couldn't get a ticket. Leaving aside all the games during the 92/ 93 and 93/ 94 seasons you mentioned (there must have been a lot of games boycotted those years - LOL) in season 94/ 95 (when your capacity seems to have been around 15,200 (that's your biggest gates anyway) there were 9 games where you failed to sell out by significant number and 6 games the following season where the same happened. What happened to all those people on waiting lists for ST's? PMSL.

 

In 93/ 94 you had a game where you got less than 13,000 and another of barely over 13,000, plus plenty in the low 14,000's. Same the following season. What happened? Was it a carry over from the Branfoot "boycotts" like in Spinal Tap where they said the support band were so bad the crowd were still booing him when they were on stage? Couldn't sell out The Dell - PMSL.

 

 

 

You crack one off about 15 years ago by all means. Fill your boots. I'll not be disagreeing about the crowds back then.

 

All I've said it that our gates, when bottom of L1 put pfc to shame and have somewhat shocked their fans, who thought that our support would tumble.

 

Care to argue against that?

 

No, thought not.

[Corporate Ho]

It adds 50% of the gate for away cup games. Therefore an away match in the cup at somewhere like Old Trafford for example, would bump up the Portsmouth average.

 

Funny, I thought the column showing FA Cup attendances showed crowds for that competition. If you insist otherwise, how do you explain our season average being roughly the same for the year we won the cup to the years when we went out in round 3/4?

 

That's my three posts for today scumlettes. Less than 13,000 at The Dell. ROTFPMSL

[Saint_John]

...

rubbish... more rubbish....

 

The fact is the stadium makes all the difference. Everybody knows that. It is basic business principles.

 

Give it up Skate, nothing beats your 2,371 (26th Sept 2000) for a 1st Team fixture (Even Bournemouth get higher gates than that).

 

You lost the argument on attendance figures when only TWO THOUSAND could be bothered to turn up, or are you now going to tell us the Trawlers were in town that night and you were queued up down the docks to get your fresh fish.

[Scummer]

Funny, I thought the column showing FA Cup attendances showed crowds for that competition. If you insist otherwise, how do you explain our season average being roughly the same for the year we won the cup to the years when we went out in round 3/4?

 

That's my three posts for today scumlettes. Less than 13,000 at The Dell. ROTFPMSL

 

I don't know, I just saw this:

 

At the club pages the half of attendance for the Cup games and replays are added to both clubs. Only for the cup rounds with home and away legs the attendance is only added to the home team.

 

If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

[benjii]

Funny, I thought the column showing FA Cup attendances showed crowds for that competition. If you insist otherwise, how do you explain our season average being roughly the same for the year we won the cup to the years when we went out in round 3/4?

 

That's my three posts for today scumlettes. Less than 13,000 at The

Dell. ROTFPMSL

 

Good job you're not a Saints fan looking at Pompey or you'd probably give yourself a hernia.

[miserableoldgit]

Surely if you go back far enough you can make the figures say what you want. You only have to look at this season to prove who is the best supported club. Us in League One on minus 10 points, and Poopey 2 divisions above us, in the "Big League". Who would you expect to have the biggest crowds? Who has the biggest crowds? Never mind the "we sold all of our best players" nonsense. If the fans were that passionate they would go to watch trained monkeys wearing blue shirts. WE ARE LEAGUE ONE ON MINUS TEN POINTS! The only thing worse than that would be League Two on -10!

[OldNick]

Maybe not 9 - 12K but looking at that website puts to bed once and for all the myth that The Dell was always sold out and that you couldn't get a ticket. Leaving aside all the games during the 92/ 93 and 93/ 94 seasons you mentioned (there must have been a lot of games boycotted those years - LOL) in season 94/ 95 (when your capacity seems to have been around 15,200 (that's your biggest gates anyway) there were 9 games where you failed to sell out by significant number and 6 games the following season where the same happened. What happened to all those people on waiting lists for ST's? PMSL.

 

In 93/ 94 you had a game where you got less than 13,000 and another of barely over 13,000, plus plenty in the low 14,000's. Same the following season. What happened? Was it a carry over from the Branfoot "boycotts" like in Spinal Tap where they said the support band were so bad the crowd were still booing him when they were on stage? Couldn't sell out The Dell - PMSL.

 

 

 

Just how many times have you sold out the 32,000 capacity at St Mary's? How many times exactly in the years you've been there?

 

 

 

Struggled to fill it? Another myth you keep trying to peddle on here. Average across the 6 seasons since we were promoted is 19,990 per game (see link). In a stadium that holds just over 20,000. Struggle to fill it - LOL

 

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/england.htm

I recall many times when the Dell or SMS was not a sell out. Football was different in the 80's and 90's with hooliganism and disasters effecting all clubs in the leagues.

I point to the fact though that i have been toold for 25 +years that pompey were a sleeping giant and would fill FP easily. The time you came up with bally you didnt do it then (of course the excuse was that you were rubbish and relegated) since then you have had a place in the PL and you have had a team of star international players , won the Fa cup and still after a blip cannot fill your ground. it is only a case of getting 16+k fans with Pompey shirts on their back not the away section as well!!!! funny that spurs are in town and its a sell out, i can see all those fans who cant get tickets writiing into Pompey news saying 'I've been going for 30 years and they didnt let me have a ticket'

Both clubs have their plastic fans, but the case is as I have tried to get into your skull, you are Wigan of the South, a club who has boufght its success from the depths of the lower leagues and it will take a long time before you are anything other than that.Now if you get your stadium and with that success you will also then get regular crowds in excess of 25k, but you need the stadium and success to do so.If you go down (something i have consistantly said you wont) it will be a long time before you see 16k crowds again.

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If Corp thinks it's funny that he can find something 15 years ago to crack one off about then fair play to him.

 

I will just reply to say 2,371 .

 

Now, let's talk SFC, bottom of L1 and with a higher average than our near neighbours. Are our pet skates going to tell us that they

 

A) Aren't surprised.

 

B) Aren't gutted.

 

Well?

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C) Can honestly say they would get the same crowd in our situation?

 

If we beat Oldham this weekend I can see a crowd of 23,000+ for the MK Dons match.

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If Corp thinks it's funny that he can find something 15 years ago to crack one off about then fair play to him.

 

I will just reply to say 2,371 .

 

Now, let's talk SFC, bottom of L1 and with a higher average than our near neighbours. Are our pet skates going to tell us that they

 

A) Aren't surprised.

 

B) Aren't gutted.

 

Well?

 

I can honestly say I am not gutted - I have never put any credence in attendance figures, as I have stated before - its division, recent trophies and results that are the bragging rights not some we are bigger than you coz we have more fans lark. To me that argument tailors more towards the team who are currently feeling inferior, yes I do mean you.