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SOTONS EAST SIDE

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Ahhhh, that makes sense... Yes, it's the refs fault. Of course.
Typical blinkered, deluded response from the few. Like true skates they have found they're true ilk. At the bottom, sifting s-hit blind in the dark, with only their sense of smell to see them through the days. lmfao @ those fools!! S-HIT CLUB,S-HIT FansTM and S-HIT CITY!!! Edited by SOTONS EAST SIDE
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Red and White Army

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5p/20p/30p whatever is still a let off for the club.I don't want to see Pompey walking away from three quarters of their footballing debt scott-free and ready to go again next season. I want to see them pay back every penny they said they could pay. That's fair on all the other clubs.

 

Pompey have cheated and you want them off the hook.

 

I don't think clubs should be given an even blanker* cheque than they already have now and the chance to splash out even more safe in the knowledge that if it all goes pop they can squirm out of it anyway.

 

 

Players and clubs being "circumspect"? Do me a favour.

 

The rule that Storrie would have to pay every single penny of every single contract he signed with players didn't make him "circumspect", so how would the knowledge that he (or any chairman) would only have to pay a quarter of it make them more circumspect? Bonkers logic I'm afraid.

 

And football players and agents don't waste time being circumspect from what I can see. I can see them just asking for lots more in anticipation of getting 25% of it down the line. I can see them asking for more money up front so it's in the bank nice and early.

 

 

It's unfortunate for the other creditors - in an ideal world they should pay everyone back in full - but you can't have everything.

 

The rule as it is is better than the alternatives, which would make a free-for-all even worse.

 

 

What you have to remember is that Pompey would bite your hand off to pay the Pie-man and the players all 25% and say no more about it. They'd be laughing all the way to the bank and back up the CCC in no time scott free with pretty much no lessons learnt and no real punishment.

 

If that's what you really want just to get one over "greedy footballers" then fine.

 

You have not thought your argument through. Without this inane football creditors rule clubs WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CHEAT.

 

Why?

 

The agents would not let their players sign contracts the club could not hope to honour. It is no good for the player, and no good for the agent. Given the choice of signing for 80k per week at Poopey that has a 25% chance of being paid or 50k a week at a club with better finances the players would opt for the 50k a week.

 

Now they can sign contracts with impunity and know they will be made good, even if the club goes bankrupt.

 

If this protection was removed and they knew they would have to stand in line with the other creditors you would find them being a lot more choosey about how solvent their employers are

 

Think CB Fry think, think before you troll.

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Eastcowzer

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Get in! Pompey are screwed now.

 

Surely Andy the Greek can conjour up some sort of an appeal against the FL

He appeals against everything else.

 

Well done the FL. At least someone is showing some common sense unlike the money grabbers of the so-called premier League, (small 'p' intended).

 

As a matter of interest, is there no case of a conflict of interest in the appointment of 'Jed ©Lampitt to the board of the Portsea Hillbillies.

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Red and White Army

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Seems like Palace have been reading from the same books of ethics as Poopey.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/30/crystal-palace-agilo-player-sales

 

Nestling among the list of creditors is the usual depressing roll call of local businesses, service providers, emergency services and charities. As of 26 January the London ambulance service was owed £21,660, the Metropolitan police £19,711 and St John Ambulance £15,817.
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AA still thinks playing in Europe next season is a possability. lol

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6123550,00.html

 

The licence has not been rejected cause Poopy STILL have not applied for it!!!!

 

So its gone past the deadline, they know this, the FA and Prem have said they would not support a late application because the deadline is clear and everyone else has to follow the same deadline, Platini has said Poopy have cheated and should not be allowed there licence cause money is owed to tax and other clubs and he still thinks he has a case?

 

If he spent this much time on trying to save the club from going out of business all together Poopy might have had a chance. lol

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AA still thinks playing in Europe next season is a possability. lol

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6123550,00.html

 

The licence has not been rejected cause Poopy STILL have not applied for it!!!!

 

So its gone past the deadline, they know this, the FA and Prem have said they would not support a late application because the deadline is clear and everyone else has to follow the same deadline, Platini has said Poopy have cheated and should not be allowed there licence cause money is owed to tax and other clubs and he still thinks he has a case?

 

If he spent this much time on trying to save the club from going out of business all together Poopy might have had a chance. lol

 

Just like a spoiled child finally being told no by it's parents. Throwing the Teddy out of the pushchair and lashing out, in blame, at anything or anyone in range.

 

Still wanting to CHEAT.

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Are there any official plans in place for celebrating this thread reaching 25,000 posts today?

 

I have some bunting and an open top bus for hire if that helps.

In honour of our friends down the road, are you planning on running that open top bus even if I lock the thread at 24,999 posts? ;)

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Wes Tender

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You have not thought your argument through. Without this inane football creditors rule clubs WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CHEAT.

 

Why?

 

The agents would not let their players sign contracts the club could not hope to honour. It is no good for the player, and no good for the agent. Given the choice of signing for 80k per week at Poopey that has a 25% chance of being paid or 50k a week at a club with better finances the players would opt for the 50k a week.

 

Now they can sign contracts with impunity and know they will be made good, even if the club goes bankrupt.

 

If this protection was removed and they knew they would have to stand in line with the other creditors you would find them being a lot more choosey about how solvent their employers are

 

Think CB Fry think, think before you troll.

 

Quote CB Fry:

The rule that Storrie would have to pay every single penny of every single contract he signed with players didn't make him "circumspect", so how would the knowledge that he (or any chairman) would only have to pay a quarter of it make them more circumspect? Bonkers logic I'm afraid.

 

Thank you Red and White Army for expressing this point far better than I did.

 

I had in mind a comparison with companies in the ordinary line of business, who get to hear whether another business is reliable and credit worthy and therefore they are more circumspect in their dealings with those who fall short in that regard. Naturally, if there was a guarantee in place that they would be paid 100p in the pound of the money owed to them as creditors, they would be perfectly happy to deal with that rogue company, safe in the knowledge that they ran no risk of getting their fingers burned. However, if that rogue company had a history of poor financial management and it was rumoured that they were spending beyond their means, then it would only be sensible that any business having dealings with them would want money up front, or would not allow their debt to increase beyond a certain level.

 

As it stands, the current rules could reasonably be deemed to be an encouragement to overspend on players that a club cannot afford, rather than a brake. When local businesses who supply the club suffer, as well as charities, while wealthy agents and players benefit, then it is plainly wrong, ethically and morally. But ethics and morals are not qualities naturally associated with the Skates and the crooks that have associated themselves with them.

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The Android on the skates application to UEFA to be allowed to play in Europe:-

 

'The license application is strict but not inflexible and it is our intention that the application can be tailored to allow Portsmouth to play in Europe next season as provisions have been put in place to give UEFA comfort that all European fixtures next season will be fulfilled ‘

 

How can he make that promise when the club is in administration, there has been no buyer yet that has made an offer and the creditors have not agreed a CVA for the club to exit administration?

 

Furthermore, if that was not enough, pretty well the entire current squad that cheated its way to the FA Cup final, will have been sold, to be replaced by ageing journeymen and youngsters. Even if UEFA were to allow the cheating bastards to enter the competition, it would be such a farce, that they would suffer ridicule.

 

Mind you, I'm sure that we would find it hilarious entertainment.

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AA still thinks playing in Europe next season is a possability. lol

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6123550,00.html

 

 

 

Dear AA,

Take a completed lottery slip with Wednesdays winning numbers to Camelot and explain to them that you didn't get a chance to put it on in time, but you would like to collect your prize.

You might find their answer simiar to UEFA, FA etc.

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Furthermore, if that was not enough, pretty well the entire current squad that cheated its way to the FA Cup final, will have been sold, to be replaced by ageing journeymen and youngsters. Even if UEFA were to allow the cheating bastards to enter the competition, it would be such a farce, that they would suffer ridicule.

 

Mind you, I'm sure that we would find it hilarious entertainment.

 

I have no idea why they even want to play in Europe. It's well known that to participate in the early rounds of the Europa League is loss-making for clubs, and with the quality of players they will have next season they aren't going to get very far. So you have a business in administration actively seeking to increase it's debts. Wonder what the creditors think of that.....

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Just like a spoiled child finally being told no by it's parents. Throwing the Teddy out of the pushchair and lashing out, in blame, at anything or anyone in range.

 

Still wanting to CHEAT.

 

Exactly!

 

I just cant believe he is moaning on about how unfair it all is when he hasnt even applied for the bloody licence! How can he complain about something when he is the one that hasnt done whats needed?

 

I am actually starting to feel sorry for a few of the genuine blue few. I know we had a muppet in charge for a long time but I cant remember him being as much of an embarresment to our club as AA is being to theirs. And he who need not be named had a fair go at it!

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Talking of unlikely European campaigns -

Fulham - servicing all their debts, taking an average bunch of players and making it to a European final without funding it from stolen charity money - that's what I call a football fairytale.

The only connection I see with Pompey's 'great adventure' is that they're both incapable of taking 150 to some away games.

 

And AA has convinced himself that everyone he deals with is an idiot and cannot see through his wafer thin plans - the taxman's gonna string him up one day soon and I for one will chuckle as his little legs twitch.

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Talking of unlikely European campaigns -

Fulham - servicing all their debts, taking an average bunch of players and making it to a European final without funding it from stolen charity money - that's what I call a football fairytale.

 

 

Well, with the help of some corner shop owner ;)

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Talking of unlikely European campaigns -

Fulham - servicing all their debts, taking an average bunch of players and making it to a European final without funding it from stolen charity money - that's what I call a football fairytale.

 

 

Fayed is around £170 million out of pocket and Fulham would not be allowed in the uefa cup from 2015 due to their financial losses and bail outs.

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Fayed is around £170 million out of pocket and Fulham would not be allowed in the uefa cup from 2015 due to their financial losses and bail outs.

Unless of course Fayed turns that debt into equity...

 

The chances of him getting that money back are slim to none until he sells the club, and even then he'd only get a small fraction of it back.

 

Fulham obviously got themselves into the Premier League by spending his money, and then had a funny couple of seasons where they spent a fortune on absolute turd (Steve Marlet for £11m, anyone? :lol:), but they run a very tight ship these days. Ironic that they're now reaping the rewards.

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Unless of course Fayed turns that debt into equity...

 

The chances of him getting that money back are slim to none until he sells the club, and even then he'd only get a small fraction of it back.

 

Fulham obviously got themselves into the Premier League by spending his money, and then had a funny couple of seasons where they spent a fortune on absolute turd (Steve Marlet for £11m, anyone? :lol:), but they run a very tight ship these days. Ironic that they're now reaping the rewards.

 

Unlike the Poopey spivs Al fayed really does appear to be a fan.

BTW anyone seen this -

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30042010/58/europa-league-burnley-line-shock-euro-spot.html

That would really p1ss old Andy Android off, Burnley in Europe and the Skates banned

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AA's and Grunty's constant whining seems very transparent to me. When the last wheel finally falls off Pompey's mobile home both of them will blame the FA, the FL, the PL and Uefa for not giving them the right opportunities to be sold to a new owner. If I could bet money on that, I would.

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Ladies and gentlemen, today is the day that we reached 500 pages.

 

500 pages of confusion.

500 pages of hillarity.

500 pages of utter shock.

500 pages of the realisation that they aren't as bad as we thought....they're much, much worse.

 

Thanks to everyone who has contributed, dug things up, clarified and saw though the mess better than anyone in the footballing world and media could do. You guys are just awesome.

 

And the greatest part is, the best is yet to come. Here's to the next milestone, and the death of a rotten cheating club. :D

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I have no idea why they even want to play in Europe. It's well known that to participate in the early rounds of the Europa League is loss-making for clubs, and with the quality of players they will have next season they aren't going to get very far. So you have a business in administration actively seeking to increase it's debts. Wonder what the creditors think of that.....

 

when you are getting his hourly wage it pays to find lots of pointless things to do like fighting worthless long winded causes such as this.

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I would like to express my shock and horror at the events of today.

 

How one EARTH can our first post on our first 500th page be........

 

That thought warms the ****les of your heart

 

Dear Lord, does this mean we're doomed, will the 20,000th be yet another disappointment.

 

Still as it was posted by the losing m anager I suppose it does have a small footnote in history.

 

Onwards and upwards

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I would like to express my shock and horror at the events of today.

 

How one EARTH can our first post on our first 500th page be........

 

That thought warms the ****les of your heart

 

Dear Lord, does this mean we're doomed, will the 20,000th be yet another disappointment.

 

Still as it was posted by the losing m anager I suppose it does have a small footnote in history.

 

Onwards and upwards

 

 

Had to be nickh.

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If anyone from HMRC is reading this have they tried to have their debt reclassified as a footballing debt? I think they would have a point as it is largely tax and national insurance on player salaries - and payments to players are classified as football creditors. That would mean the cheating bastards would have to pay their tax in full at least. Or lose the parachute payments and go bust.

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Are we having tee shirts printed with "I was there when the 25,000 post went in" ?

 

Sadly, it looks like I'll be commuting at the magic moment. A disappointing dip in momentum this afternoon.

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If anyone from HMRC is reading this have they tried to have their debt reclassified as a footballing debt? I think they would have a point as it is largely tax and national insurance on player salaries - and payments to players are classified as football creditors. That would mean the cheating bastards would have to pay their tax in full at least. Or lose the parachute payments and go bust.

Well it woulnt be Value Added tax would it!

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