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bluejob

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That would make me bitter. You lot I laugh at mostly, but I do feel a bit angry, too, that you all seem so content to be CHEATS

 

 

Circumstances beyond my control old chap. Besides when it comes to cheating there are other teams in the top flight who wrote the book. In fact there aren't really any who don't.

 

I just support my team. What choice do I have?

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Viking Warrior

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Blue job you may be a true supporter of that mob down the road

but can you at least be honest and admit your various owners and managers

have cheated the football world , HMRC and Small business's for a few years now.

 

And do you really think your players will be with you next season. as soon wembley ids done with they will be off like a shot. Even O'Hara is off to Newcastle

 

So be bold blue job and come on this forum and admit your boardroom and co have cheated the footballing world.

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NickG

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Matt Slater on his Twitter feed (he's a BBC reporter) said this earlier...

 

'Expecting news from #Pompey on Fri re CVA & % of £99.8m debt 2 b repaid. 30%ish is my guess. HMRC wont b happy but wont b able 2 block'

 

C H E A T S

 

so they have got away with it?

 

they were always going to get relegated this season so points off made no difference.

 

they got through fa cup using players they could not afford, paid loan fees when on transfer ban.

 

will be debt free, cup finalists, in CCC next season. They would have snapped your hand off for that a year ago

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PompeyInReading

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Will the best fans in the world TM buy all their ticket allocation for the final?

How many were not sold for the semi 2000?

How many at Fratton 16500 for a prem game.

What a joke.

Bitter no,laughing at the corrupt Prem team yes.You are just a blot on the landscape in Prem history.

Championship next season with no money and stuck with administration so another -10 to start the season on.

 

This is by no means an admission but why do you all think that you cant be the "best fans in the world" if you were to be fewer in number? Our fewer fans yesterday completely out-supported Spurs and to me thats all that counts. Thats why it hurts isnt it?

 

As for being fewer on this occassion, it is a fact that many genuine Pompey fans refused to go to Wembley and support the current regime in any shape or form. They also at present refuse to go to Fratton.

 

Also, can someone PLEASE explain why you buying a Stadium you couldnt afford and getting to keep is any different to us by players we cant afford and getting to keep them. Eventually our players WILL go, but you cheats will always have your stadium that you couldnt afford.

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Channon's Sideburns

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A Skate is not going to come on here and tell us how disgusting they think the club is, this thread is becoming a bit of an effort now, the skates currently have the upper hand.

 

If this were a Skate Forum he'd be banned about a minute after appearing. So welcome BlueJob.

 

TBH one of the reasons we can take the high ground over that lot is how accommodating we are of their views.

 

Take a look at the Portsmouth News replies to articles....anyone DARE post anything which defames that wonderful, downtrodden club and your post can be erased as 'unsuitable'.

 

Nothing like free speech eh?

 

Still, they are on the slab, and it's being greased.

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Weston Super Saint

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Did everyone miss this little nugget earlier then???

 

The reason we were barred was because the club had to file financial accounts by May 31, 2009 but they haven't been filed because of the insolvency of the company as part of the current administration.

 

So, are you saying Mr Fake Admin guy that the club has been insolvent since last May?

 

Surely he couldn't possibly admit that with the UK laws around trading whilst knowingly insolvent??

 

Or is he trying to claim that the only reason the accounts weren't filed almost a year ago is because they went into administration little over a month ago?

 

Whichever it is, it's another case of grasping at some straws isn't it?

 

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=769920&sec=england&cc=5739

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benjii

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so they have got away with it?

 

they were always going to get relegated this season so points off made no difference.

 

they got through fa cup using players they could not afford, paid loan fees when on transfer ban.

 

will be debt free, cup finalists, in CCC next season. They would have snapped your hand off for that a year ago

 

They will have no infrastructure, Gaydamak will probably still own all the land, who will own PFC? They are still in for a massive load of rubbish. And why is everyone suddenly ****ting themselves that they'll win the cup? Pathetic. They will not beat Chelsea. No chance. You're probably the same bed-wetters who start whistling after 88 minutes when we're defending a lead.

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View From The Top

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This is by no means an admission but why do you all think that you cant be the "best fans in the world" if you were to be fewer in number? Our fewer fans yesterday completely out-supported Spurs and to me thats all that counts. Thats why it hurts isnt it?

 

As for being fewer on this occassion, it is a fact that many genuine Pompey fans refused to go to Wembley and support the current regime in any shape or form. They also at present refuse to go to Fratton.

 

Also, can someone PLEASE explain why you buying a Stadium you couldnt afford and getting to keep is any different to us by players we cant afford and getting to keep them. Eventually our players WILL go, but you cheats will always have your stadium that you couldnt afford.

 

You mean the stadium paid for in full?

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Channon's Sideburns

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Also, can someone PLEASE explain why you buying a Stadium you couldnt afford and getting to keep is any different to us by players we cant afford and getting to keep them. Eventually our players WILL go, but you cheats will always have your stadium that you couldnt afford.

 

Easy peasy.

 

We maintained the debt on the stadium right up til we went into Admin - over an overdraft facility of thousands.

 

The stadium didn't allow us to win matches that affected other teams who have paid their bills for the last 2 years.

 

We sold all the players we could to reduce our wage bill - we played the youth team and got relegated as a consequence.

 

Our CEO went the day we went into Admin and the Administrator took over the running of the club, ensuring that we survived.

 

Pray tell, what measures has PFC completed, pre or post-Admin to reduce your outgoings?

 

Oh, apart from letting the tea lady go?

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This is by no means an admission but why do you all think that you cant be the "best fans in the world" if you were to be fewer in number? Our fewer fans yesterday completely out-supported Spurs and to me thats all that counts. Thats why it hurts isnt it?

 

As for being fewer on this occassion, it is a fact that many genuine Pompey fans refused to go to Wembley and support the current regime in any shape or form. They also at present refuse to go to Fratton.

 

Also, can someone PLEASE explain why you buying a Stadium you couldnt afford and getting to keep is any different to us by players we cant afford and getting to keep them. Eventually our players WILL go, but you cheats will always have your stadium that you couldnt afford.

 

you were very quiet at St Marys.

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so they have got away with it?

 

they were always going to get relegated this season so points off made no difference.

 

they got through fa cup using players they could not afford, paid loan fees when on transfer ban.

 

will be debt free, cup finalists, in CCC next season. They would have snapped your hand off for that a year ago

 

They will have no infrastructure, Gaydamak will probably still own all the land, who will own PFC? They are still in for a massive load of rubbish. And why is everyone suddenly ****ting themselves that they'll win the cup? Pathetic. They will not beat Chelsea. No chance. You're probably the same bed-wetters who start whistling after 88 minutes when we're defending a lead.

 

hopefully just finalists

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aintforever

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Matt Slater on his Twitter feed (he's a BBC reporter) said this earlier...

 

'Expecting news from #Pompey on Fri re CVA & % of £99.8m debt 2 b repaid. 30%ish is my guess. HMRC wont b happy but wont b able 2 block'

 

C H E A T S

 

I might be wrong but I think Leeds actually had a CVA agreed (75.2% of creditors or something voted for it) but because HRMC challenged the decision and the court date was set after the date to get the Golden Share, Leeds were forced to exit admin without a CVA and hence got the penalty.

 

I THINK they will have to pay their football debts and HRMC in full to avoid a points penalty next year.

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Faz

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Matt Slater on his Twitter feed (he's a BBC reporter) said this earlier...

 

'Expecting news from #Pompey on Fri re CVA & % of £99.8m debt 2 b repaid. 30%ish is my guess. HMRC wont b happy but wont b able 2 block'

 

C H E A T S

 

The CVA is not the end, merely the beginning of the end.

 

Assuming the CVA is agreed, and no HMRC challenge (they have reserved that right), popey still have to find around £30m for the unsecured creditors, and meet the remaining football debts, and repay Chainrai, and continue to meet their obligations whilst inside the CVA. If they fial to meet the terms of the CVA they can be wound up in any event.

 

There's still a good deal of mystery here. How has the debt risen to £100m. Is gheydamack secured, or unsecured (I'm guessing unsecured if HMRC are unable to block the CVA). If he's unsecured, but owns the land surrounding FP how does that help them in the long run. Is Chennery secured? Will he take possession of FP and charge them a rent, which they can't afford?

 

Lots more fun to come.

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Viking Warrior

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Come on Pompey in Reading

 

Also, can someone PLEASE explain why you buying a Stadium you couldnt afford and getting to keep is any different to us by players we cant afford and getting to keep them. Eventually our players WILL go, but you cheats will always have your stadium that you couldnt afford.

 

We are not cheating c**ts like you lot. yes we could afford our stadium thats why we were able to get it built, there was never any problem with norwich union re the mortgage . It was only barclays bank that screwed us and we had a far lessor debt than you have ever had, even the money due to Lens for dindane next appearence is slightly more than what we owed barclay

 

So take off your blindfold and study the real facts instead of comming out with the comments about affordability and cheats.

 

Besides its your club that are cheats . you have exclusivity on that word

 

PFC stands for Porstmouth F***ing Cheats if you hadnt realised

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suewhistle

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[quote=dubai_phil;687046

What it really needs are some of our wiser more other forum savvy members starting to explain things in detail on the forums of other fans such as Hull, Burnley, West Ham especially, but also well managed (financially) teams like Bolton, Wigan, Birmingham etc. Get the Geordie hordes onside - they saw what "living in their means" did to their club last season at the expense of the cheats.

 

The anger needs to come from OTHER clubs. The basic details of this story need to be told. Journalists should be given a precis of the salient points and our thought processes from this thread.

 

Becoming a whingeing Pom again is not something I am interested in.

I gave up when I gave up being an Uberfan ;)

 

Now that IS a good idea!

 

Must admit life is too short for wasting too much time on the subject, but it is fascinating, like watching a car crash. Might go skiing tomorrow, work and playing footie on Wednesday so I'll leave it to the other forum visitors..

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aintforever

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This explains it, Leeds had over 75% of creditors in favour of a CVA but because of HMRC's legal challenge they were forced to go down the no CVA route...

 

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leedsunited/United-caught-in-battle-between.3706070.jp

 

I suppose it depends on the timing though, it was only because of the court date that it happened this way.

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Kenilworth_Saint

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Meanwhile

 

So the Skates are at the Cup Final.

 

They are all over the media.

 

And yet, total silence from rentaquote. Mr UberConsultant.

 

Not a word about how this will put them in the global public eye and make it easier for him in his consulting role to sell the club, or how happy he is for the Worlds Greatest fans.....

 

Not a sign of Storrieteller claiming credit

 

Odd

 

Give it time...

 

You must have missed the phone call story today then - check the end of the link!

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bridge too far

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You must have missed the phone call story today then - check the end of the link!

 

This bit in the article doesn't make sense:

 

"The reason we were barred was because the club had to file financial accounts by May 31, 2009 but they haven't been filed because of the insolvency of the company as part of the current administration"

 

But the club didn't go into administration until early this year!

 

Edit Sorry Weston - didn't see that you'd posted this on the previous page

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Pugwash

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Did everyone miss this little nugget earlier then???

 

 

 

So, are you saying Mr Fake Admin guy that the club has been insolvent since last May?

 

Surely he couldn't possibly admit that with the UK laws around trading whilst knowingly insolvent??

 

Or is he trying to claim that the only reason the accounts weren't filed almost a year ago is because they went into administration little over a month ago?

 

Whichever it is, it's another case of grasping at some straws isn't it?

 

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=769920&sec=england&cc=5739

 

Interesting reading that report. I reckon that they would be refused on about eight of the criteria. Interesting too that Beitar Jerusalem are on the list of clubs refused....

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Easy peasy.

 

We maintained the debt on the stadium right up til we went into Admin - over an overdraft facility of thousands.

 

The stadium didn't allow us to win matches that affected other teams who have paid their bills for the last 2 years.

 

We sold all the players we could to reduce our wage bill - we played the youth team and got relegated as a consequence.

 

Our CEO went the day we went into Admin and the Administrator took over the running of the club, ensuring that we survived.

 

Pray tell, what measures has PFC completed, pre or post-Admin to reduce your outgoings?

 

Oh, apart from letting the tea lady go?

 

Dont forget that we owed HMRC nothing & all football debts were paid in full. I am proud that my club got have to Wembley/Cardiff six times in my 40 year lifetime without cheating once?

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Seems to me that crooked Android has deliberately created a debt total that excludes HMRC from voting no. We go down with 10 points deducted after being honest in Admin and they get to Wembley twice and have the press fawning all over them! Makes my blood boil!

 

To all the posters claiming "they'll get away with it" - I think you are right.

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Seems to me that crooked Android has deliberately created a debt total that excludes HMRC from voting no. We go down with 10 points deducted after being honest in Admin and they get to Wembley twice and have the press fawning all over them! Makes my blood boil!

 

To all the posters claiming "they'll get away with it" - I think you are right.

 

It depends what you mean by "get away with it" I suppose. I would consider a further points penalty next year and years in the doldrums to be not "getting away with it". We shall see.

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rallyboy

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let's have a quick reality check - the Prem has some awful teams in it this season yet they have still managed to get themselves relegated on merit, and supplied laughs aplenty along the way.

Had you offered me that as an option in August I would have had your arm off.

 

So I shall sleep well on that thought - night night.

Zzzzzzz

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It depends what you mean by "get away with it" I suppose. I would consider a further points penalty next year and years in the doldrums to be not "getting away with it". We shall see.

 

If HMRC agree to the CVA to get some pennies in then they wont get the -15. Worst case scenario could just be -2 for their second admin?

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Weston Super Saint

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If HMRC agree to the CVA to get some pennies in then they wont get the -15. Worst case scenario could just be -2 for their second admin?

 

Ergo, they would have technically complied with the rules and regulations, and there would be nothing to 'get away with'....

 

However, I'm pretty sure a change in the rules and regulations will be forthcoming to prevent it happening again...

 

Still not convinced that even with a CVA agreed, without substantial investment, they will be financially sound for a number of years, and thus not competitive anyway.

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This explains it, Leeds had over 75% of creditors in favour of a CVA but because of HMRC's legal challenge they were forced to go down the no CVA route...

 

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leedsunited/United-caught-in-battle-between.3706070.jp

 

I suppose it depends on the timing though, it was only because of the court date that it happened this way.

 

Reading that article about Leeds, it seems inconceivable that Poopey will not be docked points if they fail to pay off HMRC in full. The football authorities are running scared on losing the football debts first arrangement, and in the current climate there is no way HMRC can roll over, so a hefty points deuction is the only chance they have of maintaining the status quo, however the CVA appears. (Note the reference to the 'exceptional circumstances' clause.)

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What really wound me up was reading the Daily Mail this morning and one of AA's quotes...

 

" P*rtsmouth have been punished enough "

 

WHAT exactly has been their punishment? They have been docked 9 points of which has not effected their league position in the slightlest.

 

Their Sky money held back to pay off football debts... hardly a punishment, more of an obligation.

 

So what is this list of punishments imposed by the Premier League which P*mpey have recieved so far?

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Viking Warrior

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What is it with the Blue Slime that they seem to be getting away with alsorts of wrong doing, Fraud theft etc etc.

 

Now you have a very well educated footballer Richard Hughes saying he and others will be able to play in the final as there is nothing in his contract about the skates paying further money on appearences.

 

What a thick f***er he is . he will have a contract with the club but the club will have a separate agreement with his former club about ad ons.

 

UI am hearing whispers that not only will the skates get into Europe but they will get a bye in the first round of the Europe cup as their human rights have been severely compromsed by the HMRC and the Premier league.

 

All a I can say is they are a bunch of fecking cheats

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dubai_phil

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A transfer embargo nearly all season?

 

PMSL

 

So, when you exceed your Credit Card limit because you can't pay for what you are buying, this is an UNFAIR punishment by the bank?

 

When your Landlord kicks you out of your caravan because you haven't paid the rent, the Government is to blame for not giving you enough Dole Money?

 

Al Fahim did not have ANY money of his own. Your Directors did NOT perform their LEGAL duty to the stakeholders of PFC Ltd - the Fans and the Employees by performing Due Dilligence.

 

They dropped their pants faster than a cheap whore, and yet built an entire SEASON on the empty promises of an Arab. And you claim to have been punished UNFAIRLY by the authorities?

 

You idiots should have burnt PS's house to the ground, stoned him to death, hung him on a cross. HE's the one to blame.

He's the one that built your season on an empty promise THAT EVEN WHACKO JACKO saw through.

 

You were CONNED. You could NOT afford to START the season back in August, THAT is not the PL's fault THEY didn't accept Al Fahim's penniless offer.

 

IF you had sold more players in the summer and got your loans in THEN you could have had a case, THEN you could have had some sympathy but oh no, your idiot knew better.

 

All that idiot had to do was to ask just ONE of the many hundreds of thousands of Brits (including Skates) who have lived and worked down here, every single ONE would have said the same. But oh no Mr Arrogant know it all knew better.

 

Stop with the unfair boll*cks, you sang Storries name, he did this to you. You earnt it as a result

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A transfer embargo nearly all season?

 

not being allowed to buy something when you don't have the money to pay for it?

 

Hardly an embargo or punishment.

 

Whether you want them to be punished or not, or feel they deserve it or not, they have not been punished nor made efforts to sort the problem out.

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dubai_phil

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Am I 'last man standing', am I the only one who still thinks they will be wound up. I think there is a lot more to come out over this.

 

Nope. I'm with you mate, and quite possibly before the final. I have asked specific questions on here that nobody else answered, but I'm thinking that Chanrai & AA have sorted out C's loans and AA's expenses and woosh, it will be "Two days to find a buyer or I have to shut down shop"

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