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they won fair and square yesterday. it is though the only thing they have done fair and square the last couple of years

 

What was fair and square?

Playing players they should never have been allowed to sign even back in August when they were patently insolvent but hoping for Al Fahim's non-money to appear?

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God, P*mpey literally make me nearly sh!t myself with anger. Their appeal has NO founding basis, it's clearly stated that if you can't file your accounts, you can't apply for the UEFA license and you CAN'T take part in the Europa league or any other european competition. They're only trying to take attention away from their imaginary bidders and their complete shambles of an infrastructure and 'fan base', who couldn't even fill up their allocation at Wembley for an FA CUP SEMI FINAL! Beggars belief...

 

I'm glad they're down to the CCC next season, i'm glad that they'll probably get another points deduction next season because the Football League won't take any sh!t from them with their financial irregularities, i'm glad that they'll probably be relegated again as they sell all their players off and sign sh!t free transfers, and i'm glad that we'll be able to watch them sliding down the football league pyramid and towards oblivion as we climb up it.

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Sorry to **** on your chips everyone who's raised this point but the reason we were able to wear the new Kappa kit was because the previous supplier (Canterbury) went bust earlier in the year so sorry but I can't see any more legal fees coming our way. Try and keep up eh? More worrying from my point of view is the 5 year deal with Kappa. I suspect Andronikou has done the deal at a knock down price and the money will have gone straight to Chainrai.

 

One last thing on my last post of the day. There was a post earlier about something posted on a Pompey board about info being sent to the BBC (good to see you lot still scouring Pompey messageboards). The guy who posted that is a friend of mine and whilst I'm not saying all I've been told about it it apprently concerns Azougy and details of someone instructing Pompey's staff that Azougy was to have full control of the clubs finances. Could cause real problems for some people I'm told.

 

before you gloat about points deductions, whilst that's a possibility, remember that if it's shown that the club has been the victim of criminal intent there's even a possibility that the current points deduction could be rescinded. Not saying that will happen but it's in the PL rule book

 

Bye for now girls

 

If they are bust they would have a receiver (a bit like you lot may have soon) responsible for getting the best deal for their creditors during the wind up? However I guess even a receiver with no scruples would see little benefit in suing a company in administration and weighed down by millions of pounds of debt like Poopey! Would after all only be good money after bad!

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I always thought it was a UEFA rule that means they require a Licence to enter Europe next season, and it had nothing to do with the English FA.

 

This page on the UEFA site has lots of links to all the documenation, which I don't have time to go though now.

 

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/protectingthegame/clublicensing/news/newsid=1453119.html

 

I didn't know that there are already a number of clubs already refused.

 

"it presents the names of 21 clubs, including six in the most recent year, who have been refused access to the UEFA Champions League, the UEFA Cup and the latter's successor competition, the UEFA Europa League, because no licence has been granted to the club in question."

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I know many on here dont like what i say but from their fans perspective many would have taken 2 Cup finals and then go down a leaqgue or 2.I suspect there are many Saints fans who would swop a couple of lifetime memeories for a bit of pain.

Pompey have so far got away with it, and I goan hope that they will recieve full justice when i see Clapham still confident that they are toast. From here it seems a long way away, and if I had my way the doors would have been shut and the keys thrown away. That would be justice, not fielding players they cannot rightly afford , who have played and got thewm through to the FA cup final. They have a chqance to lift the cup again, something clubs who have played by the rules may never get...justice what justice?

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I know many on here dont like what i say but from their fans perspective many would have taken 2 Cup finals and then go down a leaqgue or 2.I suspect there are many Saints fans who would swop a couple of lifetime memeories for a bit of pain.

Pompey have so far got away with it, and I goan hope that they will recieve full justice when i see Clapham still confident that they are toast. From here it seems a long way away, and if I had my way the doors would have been shut and the keys thrown away. That would be justice, not fielding players they cannot rightly afford , who have played and got thewm through to the FA cup final. They have a chqance to lift the cup again, something clubs who have played by the rules may never get...justice what justice?

 

Calm down dear! They'll get their justice

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What was fair and square?

Playing players they should never have been allowed to sign even back in August when they were patently insolvent but hoping for Al Fahim's non-money to appear?

 

Quite correct Phil, using public money (HMRC) to fund players is cheating on the grand scale. According to the commentator I heard, they still owe Spuds money for Boateng's transfer and he scored the killer goal to put Spuds out! Nice touch from the 'tator though.. "but they can have the shirt off his back".

 

Seriously, someone is in league with the devil over on the dark side. Which rather conveniently brings me to the subject of their fake administrator and his paymaster. Alarm bells rang loud and clear as soon as Chanrai announced he would fund the administration and then appointed some bloke with dodgy previous and who allegedly shares the same legal representation. Surely the authorities (football and otherwise) would be looking into this as, whilst it may all be above board, it sure as hell is a real bad look and leaves the motives of all parties open to serious question, I should have thought.

 

Oh dear, a cup final and more of the "we are the gratest fans in the world ™" rubbish. Well, they certainly grate on me, so perhaps they got that bit right.

 

But, what have they ever done to justify that moniker? It can't involve selling out a small football stadium each week, we know that for sure. So what is the justification... do they, for example, generously raise alms in support of the poor and disadvantaged (almost everyone) in their area, or could it be for services to bell ringing, perhaps?

 

Maybe we'll never know, but with relegation assured it seems the blue few will be getting even fewer when the likes of Scunny and Donny come visiting next season. Time, perhaps, to update the 'blue few' to something more appropriate to their new circumstances. Possibly, the 'blue two' then.. or for really big games the 'grate eight' (both TM) perhaps... ?

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It won't do any good but I really felt I had to send this to the FA....

 

I am saddened that this years FA cup final will feature a club that has cheated its way to Wembley by using players that have been bought at the expense of the British Taxpayer and other creditors that Portsmouth FC cannot afford to pay.

 

The Premier League has rightly seen fit to punish this abuse of fair play by docking points, yet The FA seemingly turn a blind eye. So clubs that have abided by the rules are eliminated, whilst one that has bought and used players it cannot afford is allowed to grace the Wembley showcase of our nations greatest cup competition.

 

The 2010 FA Cup Final has been tainted and will be the first final in living memory that I will not watch. I only hope that The FA will be immediately implementing rules to ensure this can never happen again.

 

I know I will probably be accused of being 'bitter and jealous' - but honestly, I am just saddened by the fact PFC have for the second time, and even more obviously, cheated their way to Wembley.

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Calm down dear! They'll get their justice
Lol, but Im impatient. People have been telling me this for months now. In that time they have not only beaten my chosen football team bt Brum and Spurs. In that time they have visited Wembley and are going back again, and had wonderful experiences doing so.

I wish Saints had domne the same so my kids could have lived the dream, they have lived the dream far more than Leeds and still are alive and kicking.

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It won't do any good but I really felt I had to send this to the FA....

 

I am saddened that this years FA cup final will feature a club that has cheated its way to Wembley by using players that have been bought at the expense of the British Taxpayer and other creditors that Portsmouth FC cannot afford to pay.

 

The Premier League has rightly seen fit to punish this abuse of fair play by docking points, yet The FA seemingly turn a blind eye. So clubs that have abided by the rules are eliminated, whilst one that has bought and used players it cannot afford is allowed to grace the Wembley showcase of our nations greatest cup competition.

 

The 2010 FA Cup Final has been tainted and will be the first final in living memory that I will not watch. I only hope that The FA will be immediately implementing rules to ensure this can never happen again.

 

I know I will probably be accused of being 'bitter and jealous' - but honestly, I am just saddened by the fact PFC have for the second time, and even more obviously, cheated their way to Wembley.

But it will be portrayed as the fariytale of the FA cup. It is the fairytale of how the poor downtrodden fans and club are fighting against all odds against those nasty people who want to be paid for what is rightfully theirs. Forgetting of course that most of the players should not be there and that various rules have been forgotten to let them do so.
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Lol, but Im impatient. People have been telling me this for months now. In that time they have not only beaten my chosen football team bt Brum and Spurs. In that time they have visited Wembley and are going back again, and had wonderful experiences doing so.

I wish Saints had domne the same so my kids could have lived the dream, they have lived the dream far more than Leeds and still are alive and kicking.

 

Starting to agree with you Nick.

i keep smelling cover up by the various football authorities who are all tied up to this mess,

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I know many on here dont like what i say but from their fans perspective many would have taken 2 Cup finals and then go down a leaqgue or 2.I suspect there are many Saints fans who would swop a couple of lifetime memeories for a bit of pain.

Pompey have so far got away with it, and I goan hope that they will recieve full justice when i see Clapham still confident that they are toast. From here it seems a long way away, and if I had my way the doors would have been shut and the keys thrown away. That would be justice, not fielding players they cannot rightly afford , who have played and got thewm through to the FA cup final. They have a chqance to lift the cup again, something clubs who have played by the rules may never get...justice what justice?

 

Lol, but Im impatient. People have been telling me this for months now. In that time they have not only beaten my chosen football team bt Brum and Spurs. In that time they have visited Wembley and are going back again, and had wonderful experiences doing so.

I wish Saints had domne the same so my kids could have lived the dream, they have lived the dream far more than Leeds and still are alive and kicking.

 

Spot on. That's pretty much how I feel about the current state of affairs.

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But it will be portrayed as the fariytale of the FA cup. It is the fairytale of how the poor downtrodden fans and club are fighting against all odds against those nasty people who want to be paid for what is rightfully theirs. Forgetting of course that most of the players should not be there and that various rules have been forgotten to let them do so.

 

It already has! I have been pig sick with some of the media comments today, things like 'they deserve it after their season', 'they're fans are some the best ever'. It so angers me, my wish is for someone, somewhere, to call it as it is. I thought the Mail were doing a good job, but even they have gone quiet now.

 

They are cheats, pure and simple, and the PL and the FA, should be hanging their heads in shame.

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Chill out!

 

Chelsea will spank them. It will hurt the Few. They are down. They are a useless business proposition. They owe money to people you really wouldn't want to owe money to. All is sweet. Let W******d have another day at Wembley... the next one will be a long time coming (well, they might have a good campaign in the JPT one year).

 

As for "living the dream" - if the dream is a cup win and a couple of years in the top flight then, yes they have, but it's a fairly modest dream that any number of clubs could realistically achieve.

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Chill out!

 

Chelsea will spank them. It will hurt the Few. They are down. They are a useless business proposition. They owe money to people you really wouldn't want to owe money to. All is sweet. Let W******d have another day at Wembley... the next one will be a long time coming (well, they might have a good campaign in the JPT one year).

 

As for "living the dream" - if the dream is a cup win and a couple of years in the top flight then, yes they have, but it's a fairly modest dream that any number of clubs could realistically achieve.

 

Not really. How many different teams have won the FA Cup in the last 20 years? Not many. How many teams have made two FA Cup finals in 3 years? CHEATS.

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Chill out!

 

Chelsea will spank them. It will hurt the Few. They are down. They are a useless business proposition. They owe money to people you really wouldn't want to owe money to. All is sweet. Let W******d have another day at Wembley... the next one will be a long time coming (well, they might have a good campaign in the JPT one year).

 

As for "living the dream" - if the dream is a cup win and a couple of years in the top flight then, yes they have, but it's a fairly modest dream that any number of clubs could realistically achieve.

 

I'm very sanguine about it all as well.

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I can't agree with the view that making a final is something amazing.

 

The final we made in 2003 was no big deal IMO. If we'd won it then great. But we lost. As will the Skates. I don't look back on it now as some sort of glorious adventure. It was a great laugh but ultimately we've got nothing to show for it.

 

As for how many different teams have won the cup - I agree, not many. But that doesn't mean PFC put themselves in that position by any dastardly doings. They got a very lucky draw. The only notable result was a lucky win at Man U. They didn't buy the cup and they weren't "living the dream" in that sense. Any one of a number of other clubs could have achieved the same thing save for not having the luck of the draw - we would have done in 2003 had our easy draw continued into the final and we had faced Cardiff instead of Arsenal. But hey, that's cup football (I remember Milwall in the final, not long ago).

 

I don't see the link between a few lucky cup runs and their off-the-field antics. Yesterday, a poor Premiership team got a win against a slightly-better-than-average Prem team that played badly. It happens.

 

The seeds for many a year in the doldrums have been well and truly sown though.

 

If they were "living the dream", then so were we. Their "dream" was one year of success and a few years in the top flight. Our dream was one which is likely to position us within the premier crop of English football clubs equipped to deal with the financial realities of the game in the 21st century. I prefer our dream.

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one thing that the whole sorry saga needs is for fans of clubs other than SAints to start pointing the finger.

 

It is THEY , supporters of what in football pass for honest clubs, who have missed out on the days at Wembley, having lost out to the cheating skates along the way.

 

Oh and lots of clubs have supporter groups every bit as " great" as poopey.

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LMFAO@Prince Boetang.... " We have shown that we should be a top 6 team " :lol:

 

We beat Man United a few years ago, therefore I declare Southampton as one of the best teams in the world.

 

You are bottom of the league for a reason you skate c*nt... because you are sh!t !!!

 

Jesus wept. Where did he say that? ****ing chump.

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I do think writing to the FA has some merits - a few well-reasoned inquiries into how a team that owes so much money to the taxman & conned clubs like Lens out of Dindane when they clearly could never pay for him etc has been allowed to continue in their competition would help.

 

Their website complaints procedure states that you need to write to the address below and that it refers to the FA Cup (I guess it would have even more merit if all the letters don't come with an SO postcode. Tragically I live in PO land, so I shall be writing)

 

Customer Relations

The Football Association

Wembley Stadium

PO Box 1966

London

SW1P 9EQ

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I do think writing to the FA has some merits - a few well-reasoned inquiries into how a team that owes so much money to the taxman & conned clubs like Lens out of Dindane when they clearly could never pay for him etc has been allowed to continue in their competition would help.

 

Their website complaints procedure states that you need to write to the address below and that it refers to the FA Cup (I guess it would have even more merit if all the letters don't come with an SO postcode. Tragically I live in PO land, so I shall be writing)

 

Customer Relations

The Football Association

Wembley Stadium

PO Box 1966

London

SW1P 9EQ

 

Great idea! Could someone compose a clever template letter that we could copy and paste (and amend slightly so that they're not all the same).

 

I'd be happy to send such an email and I don't have a SO postcode ;)

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Looks like the UK HMRC should borrow a couple of our lot in NZ :D

 

 

A Wellington property developer was today jailed for two years for tax evasion involving $356,000.

 

Lance Christopher James was sentenced in Wellington District Court after he was earlier found guilty on eight charges of evading income tax and admitted a further 11 charges of PAYE evasion, the Inland Revenue Department said.

 

"This is a clear case of a businessman who knew exactly what his tax obligations were, but deliberately set out to ignore them," said Patrick Goggin, IRD assurance manager, investigations.

 

"Our tax system relies on the honesty of taxpayers, and when someone isn't paying their share they're taking money from services like schools and hospitals."

 

Mr Goggin said others who were tempted to cheat on their taxes should take note of the sentence "and be left in no doubt of the very serious consequences if they choose that path".

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Their website complaints procedure states that you need to write to the address below and that it refers to the FA Cup (I guess it would have even more merit if all the letters don't come with an SO postcode. Tragically I live in PO land, so I shall be writing)

 

Customer Relations

The Football Association

Wembley Stadium

PO Box 1966

London

SW1P 9EQ

 

Some complaints might even come from abroad... Alpine, Dubai, Eric...?

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Some complaints might even come from abroad... Alpine, Dubai, Eric...?

 

Why bother? they asked for input on the local Goals on Monday TV programme - why bother?

 

It is usueless us sending these in to the FA.

 

It is (as Corp Ho rightly points out) easy to dismiss as bitterness from beaten local rivals.

 

What it really needs are some of our wiser more other forum savvy members starting to explain things in detail on the forums of other fans such as Hull, Burnley, West Ham especially, but also well managed (financially) teams like Bolton, Wigan, Birmingham etc. Get the Geordie hordes onside - they saw what "living in their means" did to their club last season at the expense of the cheats.

 

The anger needs to come from OTHER clubs. The basic details of this story need to be told. Journalists should be given a precis of the salient points and our thought processes from this thread.

 

Becoming a whingeing Pom again is not something I am interested in.

I gave up when I gave up being an Uberfan ;)

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I do think writing to the FA has some merits - a few well-reasoned inquiries into how a team that owes so much money to the taxman & conned clubs like Lens out of Dindane when they clearly could never pay for him etc has been allowed to continue in their competition would help.

 

Their website complaints procedure states that you need to write to the address below and that it refers to the FA Cup (I guess it would have even more merit if all the letters don't come with an SO postcode. Tragically I live in PO land, so I shall be writing)

 

Customer Relations

The Football Association

Wembley Stadium

PO Box 1966

London

SW1P 9EQ

 

Good work Sid. I'll be more than happy to send a letter from north of the border.

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Meanwhile

 

So the Skates are at the Cup Final.

 

They are all over the media.

 

And yet, total silence from rentaquote. Mr UberConsultant.

 

Not a word about how this will put them in the global public eye and make it easier for him in his consulting role to sell the club, or how happy he is for the Worlds Greatest fans.....

 

Not a sign of Storrieteller claiming credit

 

Odd

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Meanwhile

 

So the Skates are at the Cup Final.

 

They are all over the media.

 

And yet, total silence from rentaquote. Mr UberConsultant.

 

Not a word about how this will put them in the global public eye and make it easier for him in his consulting role to sell the club, or how happy he is for the Worlds Greatest fans.....

 

Not a sign of Storrieteller claiming credit

 

Odd

 

Give it time...

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Why bother? they asked for input on the local Goals on Monday TV programme - why bother?

 

It is usueless us sending these in to the FA.

 

It is (as Corp Ho rightly points out) easy to dismiss as bitterness from beaten local rivals.

 

What it really needs are some of our wiser more other forum savvy members starting to explain things in detail on the forums of other fans such as Hull, Burnley, West Ham especially, but also well managed (financially) teams like Bolton, Wigan, Birmingham etc. Get the Geordie hordes onside - they saw what "living in their means" did to their club last season at the expense of the cheats.

 

The anger needs to come from OTHER clubs. The basic details of this story need to be told. Journalists should be given a precis of the salient points and our thought processes from this thread.

 

Becoming a whingeing Pom again is not something I am interested in.

I gave up when I gave up being an Uberfan ;)

 

I think the point is you OBVIOUSLY don't mention being a Saints fan, just a concerned citizen

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I'm hoping that the latest ravings on this thread are tongue in cheek. Could you really be that bitter?

 

We're not bitter - we are just doing our bit to keep our favourite soap-opera rumbling on.

Bitterness is what small-minded people feel when its all going t*ts-up and you can't quite managhe to pin the blame on everyone else, no matter how hard you try and how often you say it.

What we are doing is enjoying ourselves immensely, tempered with a bit of mild irritation when the plot doesn't quite go how we want it to.

There is a difference, I can assure you.

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"And in the club's current circumstances, any appeal appears unlikely to succeed as Uefa's criteria state that a licence may be refused if the applicant has not met the deadline for lodging audited financial statements, or if the accounts show payables overdue from transfer activities or towards employees.

The club have also missed the 1 March deadline to file accounts with the FA by some distance"

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We're not bitter - we are just doing our bit to keep our favourite soap-opera rumbling on.

Bitterness is what small-minded people feel when its all going t*ts-up and you can't quite managhe to pin the blame on everyone else, no matter how hard you try and how often you say it.

What we are doing is enjoying ourselves immensely, tempered with a bit of mild irritation when the plot doesn't quite go how we want it to.

There is a difference, I can assure you.

 

 

I'm not sure I understand the difference.

 

 

ps. I hope you make the play offs......and get stuffed by Leeds at Wembley. Am I getting warmer?

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Matt Slater on his Twitter feed (he's a BBC reporter) said this earlier...

 

'Expecting news from #Pompey on Fri re CVA & % of £99.8m debt 2 b repaid. 30%ish is my guess. HMRC wont b happy but wont b able 2 block'

 

C H E A T S

 

Revolting club, absolutely revolting. The governing bodies should also hang their heads in shame as well - especially when you consider Luton's plight compared to Portsmouth's.

 

F()cking revolting. Hope they die, but they probably won't now - especially considering the outpouring of love from around the country for the poor, embattled Portsmouth fans and their poor, unfairly treated club...

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Matt Slater on his Twitter feed (he's a BBC reporter) said this earlier...

 

'Expecting news from #Pompey on Fri re CVA & % of £99.8m debt 2 b repaid. 30%ish is my guess. HMRC wont b happy but wont b able 2 block'

 

HMRC may not be the only ones that take issue with just 30% and a block may still happen.

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I'm not sure I understand the difference.

 

 

ps. I hope you make the play offs......and get stuffed by Leeds at Wembley. Am I getting warmer?

 

That would make me bitter. You lot I laugh at mostly, but I do feel a bit angry, too, that you all seem so content to be CHEATS

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I'm not sure I understand the difference.

 

 

ps. I hope you make the play offs......and get stuffed by Leeds at Wembley. Am I getting warmer?

 

Nah, not quite.

 

Bluejob, one of my best mates is of the blue persuasion, as yourself.

 

He is embarrassed by the club.

 

Football should be embarrassed in general, Pompey's appearance at the FA's showpiece event is a disgrace.

 

Not for some of the 'genuine' PFC fans (who I wish well) but the ones who cannot get their head past the 'Oh the Premier League has conspired against us' and 'Avram Bull****'.

 

You (as PFC) made your way to the final using players who you could not afford, traded insolvent, and made a mockery of the Premier League.

 

The history books will not have you down as 'plucky Pompey' if you win against Chelsea - it will be 'the club who cheated their way to the FA Cup'...

 

I'm sure the FA will love that....

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Even if a CVA is agreed ALL footballing debts have to be paid in full under FL rules.

 

With the theory I'm starting to believe

 

Oh no they are not......

 

Look again into CVA rules

 

But take off the assumption that anyone at the top is interested in them continuing to play football

 

Chanrai wants his money back. CVA is an important part of that process

 

Let us not fall for the assumption that he gives a flying anything about the club (apart from keeping them alive long enough to get his cash back)

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