Saint Keith Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 But the income due is guarenteed from the PL and tv companies and so a nice risk free earner I would have thought not if its already been mortgaged/promised to others, as is suspected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 But the income due is guarenteed from the PL and tv companies and so a nice risk free earner I would have thought But surely they have to be a fully functioning club in order to receive the payments. If a team that is relegated them promoted before the parachute payment schedule is completed (i.e. after one season) the remaining parachute payment is distributed among the other Football League teams. If a club is liquidated in the same timeframe then surely the same thing would happen to the outstanding payments - they would go to the FL clubs. The PL have never been tested on this but I would have thought that would be the course of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintds Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 Meanwhile, WGS is doing us prooud by the look of it.... apologies if already posted http://www.clubcall.com/middlesbrough/o-neil-summer-exit-cards-1048051.html I wonder if O'Neill would be happy to drop a division for one season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 I just got this spam email and immediately thought of Pompy. http://www.cubeupload.com/files/d74200hmrc.jpg I wonder if Mr Android is feverishly clicking his email folders in hope of the same kind of ''refund''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 Think Walter has fixed this on the ibase 3rd year project, sorry website. Marc, if you're listening, no offence. Could you also correct the same misspelling on the LinkedIn page? Spelling is one thing , but is there anyone on here who can offer free credibility gap advice to our friend? The only gap that needs filling is the void between his ears, it must be immense. The only thing that worries me is that business' might actually rely upon his 'so called' services - it is bloody scary really when you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 I just got this spam email and immediately thought of Pompy. http://www.cubeupload.com/files/d74200hmrc.jpg I wonder if Mr Android is feverishly clicking his email folders in hope of the same kind of ''refund''. I think you'll find that it was 'Mr Taxman' taking offence to PFC's reluctance to add to the nations tax collection that started this whole sorry mess. Even PFC wouldn't be so stupid enough to think that they actually qualified for a tax rebate.... would they....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 So it's like saying Joe owes Dan £30. Sam will give Dan £25 now and get the £30 off Joe later? with interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 As there is little chance of a CVA, that may explain this rash of tales from 'Arry as he seeks a CYA defence. Don't bet on it. I wouldn't be surprised if AA is busy working on getting Gay boy's unsecured creditor status above the magic 75% mark. My take is he's trying to get a CVA approved 'in principle' first from all the creditors, then he'll know how much money he needs to go looking for... I'm no expert on these things, but I'm not sure that's the best way to do things, but then this is Pompey we're talking about.... Or just one, if 75% of the unsecured debt is owed to that particular "creditor". As some of us visionaries correctly predicted, Jesus has walked amongst the halt and the lame of Poopey this Easter and the sick are risen from their beds. Praise the Lord! (Or just possibly Avram Judas Grant was just conning the media fopr the sympathy vote) http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/frattonlatest/Pompey-given-triple-injury-boost.6205158.jp http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=677803#post677803 CHEATS! :snipe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=677803#post677803 CHEATS! :snipe:Perhaps it was all to save appearance ,win (lol) bonusses etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynicalsaint Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 Hutch - where are you in SA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 (edited) Hmm, anything you'd like to share Benjii? Do you have a penchant for photocopiers, and failing to buy football clubs? :-k People say I'm a photocopier salesman but I'm not.... sure I might have sold the odd photocopier now and then.... who hasn't? Edited 7 April, 2010 by benjii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 People say I'm a photocopier salesman but I'm not.... sure I might have sold the odd photocopier now and then.... who hasn't? Ahhhh right - I understand now - so you'd be one of those 'business strategist' types then eh...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 7 April, 2010 Share Posted 7 April, 2010 This Saga could have a million views would that be a record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Don't bet on it. I wouldn't be surprised if AA is busy working on getting Gay boy's unsecured creditor status above the magic 75% mark. Or just one, if 75% of the unsecured debt is owed to that particular "creditor". The real problem at the moment for AA isn't getting a CVA accepted by the required %age of creditors, but being able to put one on the table in the first place. A CVA is an offer of some pence in the pound to settle debts. In order to offer some pence in the pound you need money. Without a buyer, he hasn't got any. AA himself acknowledged recently that to go down the CVA route, Chainrai will have to put more cash into the club now. Would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Hutch - where are you in SA? Sheltering from the rain in Pretoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 This Saga could have a million views would that be a record No. I believe Saga holidays have far more than a million and the Saga of Noggin the Nog had more viewers in its heyday too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 I remember Noggin the Nog and Ivor the Engine as a lad, They had more supporters than Pompey and probably still have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 I remember Noggin the Nog and Ivor the Engine as a lad, They had more supporters than Pompey and probably still have... Christ:D you must be old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Christ:D you must be old He was around when Methuselah was a lad. Mind you so was I. Don`t get me started on Picture Book, Andy Pandy, The Flowerpot Men, Rag, Tag and Bobtail and the Woodentops!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie66 Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 I remember Noggin the Nog and Ivor the Engine as a lad, They had more supporters than Pompey and probably still have... So you will also remember Captain Pugwash and yes Master Bates !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 He was around when Methuselah was a lad. Mind you so was I. Don`t get me started on Picture Book, Andy Pandy, The Flowerpot Men, Rag, Tag and Bobtail and the Woodentops!! Good God. I'm old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 He was around when Methuselah was a lad. Mind you so was I. Don`t get me started on Picture Book, Andy Pandy, The Flowerpot Men, Rag, Tag and Bobtail and the Woodentops!! he he;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 So you will also remember Captain Pugwash and yes Master Bates !!! Sadly another great myth exploded! http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/pugwash.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 (edited) Oh, and of course Muffin the Mule, which was legal in those days!! (And probably still is in P*rtsmouth. In fact, it`s probably compulsory!!) Edited 8 April, 2010 by miserableoldgit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Magic Roundabout, not the Swindon one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Anyone else remember this??:- http://www.rubovia.org/index2.htm I realise that this is a (pleasant) diversion from the thread subject, but it is very quiet on the Skate front ATM isn`t it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 I think I must have been abducted by Aliens after the JPT final. One minute I was standing on the platform at Waterloo and when I woke up 2hours and 10 minutes later I was in Salisbury and dying for a krap. Must have been aliens as the train ride up had only taken 1 hour 24 mins. Hic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 I think I must have been abducted by Aliens after the JPT final. One minute I was standing on the platform at Waterloo and when I woke up 2hours and 10 minutes later I was in Salisbury and dying for a krap. Must have been aliens as the train ride up had only taken 1 hour 24 mins. Hic I think that you are on the wrong thread Phil! This is the one about 1950/60`s kids programmes not the "Alien Abduction"one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Christ:D you must be old Yes,But what about Trumpton, camblewick green, Bleep and booster and the Banana bunch, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 (edited) So you will also remember Captain Pugwash and yes Master Bates !!! There was never a character called Master Bates in Captain Pugwash. Neither was there a Seaman Staines or a Roger The Cabin-boy. HTH. Edited 8 April, 2010 by Sheaf Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 I remember Noggin the Nog and Ivor the Engine as a lad, They had more supporters than Pompey and probably still have... There's a Joy Divisionesque dark romantic streak running through the Ivor saga. What I can't work out is how Idris the Dragon, who sleeps in Ivor's firebox, manages to appear from the chimney. As you are all no doubt well aware of the basic design principles of a steam engine boiler and will therefore know that smoke tubes for a loco of Ivor's class would be 2" internal diameter at most, too narrow for any dragon species to get through that I've ever come across. I mean it's laughable! Thomas is for kids. Oh, and.... CHEATS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumuah Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Kids TV programs? Seriously, start your own thread and don't hijack this one. WTF has any of that got to do with the Pompey situation? Keep it on subject, or start your own thread, don't ruin this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Kids TV programs? Seriously, start your own thread and don't hijack this one. WTF has any of that got to do with the Pompey situation? Keep it on subject, or start your own thread, don't ruin this one. O.K. Let`s have your up-to-date news on the subject please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Ok..to pull it back on thread. We lovingly know him as 'Andy Android'..so to put the two themes together..perhaps he could be 'Metal Mickey'. Or Bod. Everyone forgot Bod. On the Pimpley side of things, Utaka's in the Express today saying it's good they are underdogs. http://www.express.co.uk/football/view/167914/John-Utaka-has-a-spur-to-beat-odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 So are we now saying that there is only one chance of saving P*mpey and that's Michael Wilde the 2nd? And if he doesn't come up with the goods then I assume there will be no buyer buy the start of next season so they will have more sanctions and penalties imposed? I just can't see how anyone other than a die-hard super-wealthy, fan would invest in PFC... and to my knowledge, I know of no super-wealthy P*mpey fans. As a business venture it's plain to see that there is no return on this business and the figures just don't add up to be a viable investment. They are not a Premiership side anymore, they will not be a 'well-supported' Championship side and there is the very real possibility they will start next season on -15 which will have them as favourites for relegation to league one. Why would anyone buy them? I really can't find a reason, even when I do take my SFC-hazed glasses off...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 I think that you are on the wrong thread Phil! This is the one about 1950/60`s kids programmes not the "Alien Abduction"one!! Gosh darn it - you see how those sneaky feckers work, they not only abduct people but also your posts.... Meanwhile back at The Andy Pandy show up the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Why would anyone buy them? I really can't find a reason, even when I do take my SFC-hazed glasses off...? Whatever reason Arkadi... sorry, I meant Sasha, Gaydamak bought them for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Whatever reason Arkadi... sorry, I meant Sasha, Gaydamak bought them for? Yes but at least they were in the Premier League then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 Whatever reason Arkadi... sorry, I meant Sasha, Gaydamak bought them for? Swapping broadcasting royalties with blood stained cash I think, tv money in the fizzy leagues is vastly reduced. I guess they could swap season ticket money with dirty funds, but knowing the 'few' that moneys probably dodgy already! Found this in the main bored; http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/paulkelso/100006898/mawhinney-urges-football-league-to-tackle-financial-reform-in-parting-shot/ It left me thinking that all of Mawhinneys concerns revolve entirely around poopey, and there disgraceful/criminal/immoral behaviour. Abusing the taxman, using HMRC as a bank loans, then defaulting on public money... Overpaying players at the expense of other clubs such as Wolves... Agents, eg, Willy Mckay, Redknapp and Storrie etc Football creditors rule, not paying St. Johns Ambulance, Terry the builder etc... Encouraging owner/director engagement with governing bodies: Ali Al Mirage! Owners/benefactors lumping bridging loans on there club and creaming interest: Arkadi/Sasha, Comical Ali and Baloo Changalang! Fit to trade/ unsustainable debt: Check! So if Lord Mawhinney leaves his legacy with these plans being taken forward, the skates will continue to be the most morally reprehensible football club in the land. Im getting a bit TIRED of all this, the press started to expose the skates for the disgrace that they are, but they seem to have laid off, and they were barely scratching the surface in the first place. Im ANGRY that HMRC backed down, they should have pulled the trigger for the greater good. I take COMFORT that in a couple of years time, we will have finally gone full circle (SFC). As we charge back up to the top of the game, the skates cling on to anything they can as the bailiffs kick the doors in, this 5-6-7 year blip will be all but a distant memory. And I can go back to not really having a clue what little poopey are up to, just like it used to be! UTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/frattonlatest/Pompey-star-can-play-in.6213752.jp What a farce. The club did not know that the trigger for Dindane was 22 games not 20. Someone is playing games here and I don't mean football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 The News is posting that Dindane can now play on Sunday as they had 'miscounted' the number of games he could play, and it is in fact 22 instead of 20 before they have to pay Lens the £4 million. Perhaps the inbreeding gives them some problems with the decimal system (The Romans based it on the number of fingers and thumbs of a non portsea resident) or could it be that the extra 2 games are Mr Storries usual 10% cut ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 It's the hope that kills them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 IIRC it was originally 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 So are we now saying that there is only one chance of saving P*mpey and that's Michael Wilde the 2nd? And if he doesn't come up with the goods then I assume there will be no buyer buy the start of next season so they will have more sanctions and penalties imposed? I just can't see how anyone other than a die-hard super-wealthy, fan would invest in PFC... and to my knowledge, I know of no super-wealthy P*mpey fans. As a business venture it's plain to see that there is no return on this business and the figures just don't add up to be a viable investment. They are not a Premiership side anymore, they will not be a 'well-supported' Championship side and there is the very real possibility they will start next season on -15 which will have them as favourites for relegation to league one. Why would anyone buy them? I really can't find a reason, even when I do take my SFC-hazed glasses off...? You're right in that nobody will buy them for more than the value of the assets, so Chanrai will stay as owner and sort out a deal with Gaydamak that sees them getting the most back out of the club that they can - and will do whatever is necessary. I really can see Poopey still being around in some form - but with Fratton sold off and all decent players gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 all these positive stories, the players miraculously throwing away crutches, running off fractured cheekbones etc, and the captivating 'is he/isn't he' Dindane-hype is aimed at one thing - selling tickets that they can't shift, to dim people. 'Fortress Fratton', 'the siege mentality', 'Pompey til they die' - it's all rubbish aimed at motivating the hard of thinking. The facts show that the fans have already abandoned ship, the players still aren't good enough, and AA isn't a real administrator, he's just buying time as he works to get Chanrai his and the child-maimer's monies back - this game is his last big opportunity. So while it's lovely to hear all of the team news, can we just get back to the real issue and check up on how the whole 'paying off the massive debt thang' is progressing?...... Whether Dinadane or Messi plays for them is irrelevant - they need a billionaire not a gutsy showing in a cup game. I thought Pardew's jacket and tracksuit combination nearly worked at Wembley, has Avram selected himself a nice Thai for the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/frattonlatest/Pompey-star-can-play-in.6213752.jp What a farce. The club did not know that the trigger for Dindane was 22 games not 20. Someone is playing games here and I don't mean football. And people wonder why I have said time and again 'Pompey will get away with it' All of a sudden their injury ravaged side has got 4 players back. Spurs should win,but dark forces are in play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 all these positive stories, the players miraculously throwing away crutches, running off fractured cheekbones etc, and the captivating 'is he/isn't he' Dindane-hype is aimed at one thing - selling tickets that they can't shift, to dim people. 'Fortress Fratton', 'the siege mentality', 'Pompey til they die' - it's all rubbish aimed at motivating the hard of thinking. The facts show that the fans have already abandoned ship, the players still aren't good enough, and AA isn't a real administrator, he's just buying time as he works to get Chanrai his and the child-maimer's monies back - this game is his last big opportunity. So while it's lovely to hear all of the team news, can we just get back to the real issue and check up on how the whole 'paying off the massive debt thang' is progressing?...... Whether Dinadane or Messi plays for them is irrelevant - they need a billionaire not a gutsy showing in a cup game. I thought Pardew's jacket and tracksuit combination nearly worked at Wembley, has Avram selected himself a nice Thai for the weekend? Absolute class as always, rallyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 all these positive stories, the players miraculously throwing away crutches, running off fractured cheekbones etc, and the captivating 'is he/isn't he' Dindane-hype is aimed at one thing - selling tickets that they can't shift, to dim people. 'Fortress Fratton', 'the siege mentality', 'Pompey til they die' - it's all rubbish aimed at motivating the hard of thinking. The facts show that the fans have already abandoned ship, the players still aren't good enough, and AA isn't a real administrator, he's just buying time as he works to get Chanrai his and the child-maimer's monies back - this game is his last big opportunity. So while it's lovely to hear all of the team news, can we just get back to the real issue and check up on how the whole 'paying off the massive debt thang' is progressing?...... Whether Dinadane or Messi plays for them is irrelevant - they need a billionaire not a gutsy showing in a cup game. I thought Pardew's jacket and tracksuit combination nearly worked at Wembley, has Avram selected himself a nice Thai for the weekend? Good post, and might not be far from the truth..but the drip drip of its all over is wearing thin as no action is happening. No doubt if they lose sunday then it will go into meltdown and the players will hae to find other employers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 So are we now saying that there is only one chance of saving P*mpey and that's Michael Wilde the 2nd? And if he doesn't come up with the goods then I assume there will be no buyer buy the start of next season so they will have more sanctions and penalties imposed? I just can't see how anyone other than a die-hard super-wealthy, fan would invest in PFC... and to my knowledge, I know of no super-wealthy P*mpey fans. As a business venture it's plain to see that there is no return on this business and the figures just don't add up to be a viable investment. They are not a Premiership side anymore, they will not be a 'well-supported' Championship side and there is the very real possibility they will start next season on -15 which will have them as favourites for relegation to league one. Why would anyone buy them? I really can't find a reason, even when I do take my SFC-hazed glasses off...? cos we are very special stuey,,,,,:smt008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie66 Posted 8 April, 2010 Share Posted 8 April, 2010 O.K. Let`s have your up-to-date news on the subject please. Pompey consortium lead by Bill and Ben, Andy Pandy and a certain Captain Pugwash as the fans representative. Honest !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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