Crab Lungs Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 My biggest thought so far this week. (I know doesn't take much ;-) ) Mr Admin Man says to Solent yesterday that there is still a chance of Ballsup continuing with club ownership. Which translates via my 'mickychannontranslatorsystem' to : 'So far the interest in the club has fallen away once they see the bank statements - therefore I shall not hold out too much hope of the club being bought. With this in mind, Mr Chinarai could find himself lumbered'. A frighteningly similar situation to having a dog turd on your front lawn and no-one wanting to pick it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 A frighteningly similar situation to having a dog turd on your front lawn and no-one wanting to pick it up? As they used to say on Hong Kong Phooey... 'Could be!!!!!!!!!!!' Another random thought. Mr Not-so-Secret Millionaire popped up just at the time of the Storrieteller email saga which unfolded last weekend. Now. If Mr Astrologicalfees was THAT concerned about him running his mouth off, surely he would advise him to keep schtum????? Instead, there's a daily interview on some radio station or other. Conspiracy theory No.18299 - No-ones mentioned those Storyteller emails for days. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I wish I had the strength left to respond in full to the latest developments, but I don't. All I can see is that disgusting, pathetic little club slinker off without any real punishment of note that truly matches their crime. They've been insolvent for years, they've cheated, bribed, ducked and dived their way around things and now it's finally caught up with them - but only to an extent. During the whole duration of this situation they have repeatedly attempted to blame everyone else other than themselves, they've spent money they haven't got (thus weakening their rivals) and now Avram is threatening to field a weakened team? What a f()cking tosser. Their fans rank among the most moronic, blinkered fans in the country (see Corp Ho for a prime example). Not only this, but their world famous 'best supporters in the world' are once again showing their real colours (especially when the Sky cameras are not there). In reality, they are no more than a ****-poor few thousand gypsies with mental problems (or a few hundred if they're away from home). Worse still has been the constant 'woe is me' bleating that has been emanating from that part of the world ever since things turned a bit sour. I've never seen such a group of fans (and the manager, to be fair) so misguided in their beliefs. What is worse though, I've never seen so many people acting a bunch of little girls over it. Despite all the conniving, cheating and alleged laundering, they are actually convinced they are being hard done by. This rotting cesspit of a football club deserves nothing more than immediate expulsion and winding up, followed by jail for all the perpetrators. FFS Crab Lungs I find you attempts at trying to evoke some sympathy for our stressesd neighbours a little distubing... come on man show some balls and tell us how you really feel! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I see Android has employed six new members of staff to help the team through turbelent times hes given contracts to the 6 birmingham social workers . In a statement he AA states that as the socail workers didnt know what they were doing that they would fit in very well with the ethos of PFC as nobody here including my self knows whats going on or what to do ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 FFS Crab Lungs I find you attempts at trying to evoke some sympathy for our stressesd neighbours a little distubing... come on man show some balls and tell us how you really feel! ;-) As you can see, I am renowned for my mediating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Well, I hope by Page 600 of this thread that they've been visited by the..... ...pox doctor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Well, I hope by Page 600 of this thread that they've been visited by the..... Golden egg laying goose? I'm not sure how else they're going to get out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I see our little skate friends are trying to club together and buy a flag..... PROPI Peoples Republic Of Portsea Island http://www.fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=250888 Personally PROPI should stand for; "Petpertual Renegers On Promising Incometax" But I'm sure there are better ones.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Well, I hope by Page 600 of this thread that they've been visited by the..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I see they are planning on playing a weakened side for the rest of the season, im sure wolves got fined for doing this and i hope they keep to their rules if pompey do this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 it would be more of a news story if Avram announced he was going to be fielding a legally-assembled side that they could afford to pay. And if he goes for the weak option will we tell the difference from his strongest side that was wiped out at Anfield? I know he got to the Champions League final but I think the last time he had a semi was when the team coach drove through Horton Heath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I see our little skate friends are trying to club together and buy a flag..... PROPI Peoples Republic Of Portsea Island http://www.fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=250888 Personally PROPI should stand for; "Petpertual Renegers On Promising Incometax" But I'm sure there are better ones.......... I was only joking when I mentioned the 'peoples republic' thing. so, what do they suggest when they get their new found independence? No tax policy? Will they have to loan their own national team players in? National stadium as Fratton Park? Sounds like some kind of european version of Mogadishu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I was only joking when I mentioned the 'peoples republic' thing. so, what do they suggest when they get their new found independence? No tax policy? Will they have to loan their own national team players in? National stadium as Fratton Park? Sounds like some kind of european version of Mogadishu. Reminds me of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U%C5%BEupis#The_Republic_of_U.C5.BEupis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 It is hilarious how the people running Pompey can be sooooooo naive. Throwing the toys out of the pram because of the 9 points. In what possible way could it be argued that Pompey don't deserve the minus 9? They have bankrupt themselves paying wages and transfers they can't possibly afford. Even the administrator has said it is a terrible way to run a club. Almost as ridiculous as the idea of someone buying the club. I can't wait to see the blok who thinks, "24 CCC clubs next season, forget Forest, Leeds and Sheff Utd, I want the one with £70m of debt" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I'm waiting for him to say his position is almost untenable, like Storrie because of the PL's harsh treatment, but then cling on likewise drawing his £20k/week. He is either very very stupid or yet another shyster (and given the company he has chosen to keep, I know which one I think he is....) Surely Grant's position was untenable from the day he joined. And if he's only,(allegedly), been paid once, who in his right mind would continue to work for such an employer, let alone offer to pay the wages of fellow employees 'Certifiable' is a word that comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 "You need to give all of the teams an equal chance, which we did not have in this case," stated Grant. Yes, that's right Avram. You were cheating by spending money you don't have on players you can't afford. Other teams in this year's relegation scrap were and are not cheating. The teams you finished above last season weren't cheating. You were. The teams you knocked out of the FA Cup and finsished above the season before weren't cheating. You were. The nine point deduction is a fair punishment for cheating and restores the equal chance for all teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 It is hilarious how the people running Pompey can be sooooooo naive. Throwing the toys out of the pram because of the 9 points. In what possible way could it be argued that Pompey don't deserve the minus 9? They have bankrupt themselves paying wages and transfers they can't possibly afford. Even the administrator has said it is a terrible way to run a club. So, they get deducted 9 points for going into administration because they've been cheating all season, playing with players that they can't afford. However, no such penalty in the FA Cup, so they get a day out at Wembley, whilst in administration, whilst playing with the same players that they can't afford. I will laugh my arse off if they get absolutley tonked...preferably by Fulham (a Baird hatrick would be nice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Wow. Does this club know when to field a weakened side and when to field an (illegitimately) strong side? The self-pity from that end of the M27 is quite odious. If I was in charge at the PL, I would respond to AG's "hint" with a hint of my own: The advance on your parachute paymentls depends on you playing by the rules of the Premier League. You may not like it. You may not like us. We, however, can make the difference between your fans lining up for Championship match tickets at FP and your fans lining up outside the estate agents' offices to get the chance of a brand new 1 bedroom apartment on the former site of FP. So stop mouthing off, stop feeling sorry for yourself and go do your job. If you're feeling stressed then pop off down to unit 1 and ask for the usual. However, we advise you to stop short of asking her to wear as strap on because if you need to get f***ed up the a**e, you only need to keep on talking and we'll let the HMRC show you how it's really done. Excellent post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Sounds like some kind of european version of Mogadishu. At least Mogadishu has a stadium that will hold 35,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogadiscio_Stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I wish I had the strength left to respond in full to the latest developments, but I don't. All I can see is that disgusting, pathetic little club slinker off without any real punishment of note that truly matches their crime. They've been insolvent for years, they've cheated, bribed, ducked and dived their way around things and now it's finally caught up with them - but only to an extent. During the whole duration of this situation they have repeatedly attempted to blame everyone else other than themselves, they've spent money they haven't got (thus weakening their rivals) and now Avram is threatening to field a weakened team? What a f()cking tosser. Their fans rank among the most moronic, blinkered fans in the country (see Corp Ho for a prime example). Not only this, but their world famous 'best supporters in the world' are once again showing their real colours (especially when the Sky cameras are not there). In reality, they are no more than a ****-poor few thousand gypsies with mental problems (or a few hundred if they're away from home). Worse still has been the constant 'woe is me' bleating that has been emanating from that part of the world ever since things turned a bit sour. I've never seen such a group of fans (and the manager, to be fair) so misguided in their beliefs. What is worse though, I've never seen so many people acting a bunch of little girls over it. Despite all the conniving, cheating and alleged laundering, they are actually convinced they are being hard done by. This rotting cesspit of a football club deserves nothing more than immediate expulsion and winding up, followed by jail for all the perpetrators. I take it this means we wont be getting an invite round for afternoon tea then Crabby:smt008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I take it this means we wont be getting an invite round for afternoon tea then Crabby:smt008 Are you embarrassed by it all Mack? Not sniping, just a question. If it was my club, regardless of the time I'd spent supporting them, I'd be incredulous that Avram the Hut keeps on hyping up the sympathy card. After that little outburst even the most level headed fans will be saying 'Fook you'..(to the club not you personally).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesend Saint Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Wenger talkig some sense for a change? http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/-clubs-must-abide-by-team-selection-rules- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equalizer Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Couldn't resist after the recent sponsorship change of the FL. Anyone under 35 may want to ask a parent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 So, they get deducted 9 points for going into administration because they've been cheating all season, playing with players that they can't afford. However, no such penalty in the FA Cup, so they get a day out at Wembley, whilst in administration, whilst playing with the same players that they can't afford. I will laugh my arse off if they get absolutley tonked...preferably by Fulham (a Baird hatrick would be nice). There is of course one thing that would be funnier.... They get to the final but are wound up before they can play Evil, but would have a certain karma to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Well, you've certainly proven how ITK you are in the past, so there's obviously no reason to doubt your little Storrie, sorry...I meant story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Here's a true story for you. The MD of the Stellar Group (football agents) met Boateng in a hotel in Southampton yesterday. He was bragging about the deals his group have done including Lee (is that his name) Barnard moving to you. He was telling Boateng what an easy touch you are and how you were already offering way more than Leeds were when he told you Leeds had upped their offer (they hadn't) and you offered even more money. He was laughing and saying what an easy touch agents considered you at the moment. Does that scenario remind you of somewhere else close by fairly recently? I'm sure that came from your friend at pfc, whom you see socially every few weeks or so, who has been spot on so far about you being taken over by billionaire arabs and moving to a state of the art, award winning designed, stadium. I've never doubted your sources since you got it so right about Riqualme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Couldn't resist after the recent sponsorship change of the FL. Anyone under 35 may want to ask a parent! Yeah from Tooting Popular Front to Dentistry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Haha....it's almost as if Corpy is Storrieteller isn't it? The tone of it all....priceless. Oh and Corpy - not cheating? How about getting your embargo raised then bringing in more players when supposedly trying to sell?? Yes, those players (+ O'Hara) used in the league and FA Cup to gain an advantage..... The irony of you not selling players is because your clueless CEO (not Gaydaboy) put them on such lucrative contracts that no-one could, no then again, WOULDN'T match. Still, alls fair in relegation and meltdown eh?? We even did Admin better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 More misplaced self righteous crap that we don't care about Has Riquelme signed yet? How about that new stadium, funding sorted yet? Note, Kudos to View from the Top for beating me to the punch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Come now Corp Ho You are showing yourself up as a bigger ***** than I first gave you credit for. Your club has been involved in a number of dodgy dealings for some time now , whether owners , chairman and no doubt players Oh and grow up and stop using insentive and offensive statements re What happens if Nazi Boy Its not clever and certainly not mature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporate Ho Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I'm sure that came from your friend at pfc, whom you see socially every few weeks or so, who has been spot on so far about you being taken over by billionaire arabs and moving to a state of the art, award winning designed, stadium. I've never doubted your sources since you got it so right about Riqualme. No, it came from a Pompey fan who happened to be sat at the table next to them as this typical loudmouthed agent shouted about his success so all and sundry could hear. Are you saying you aren't paying those sort of wages then? Might be an idea to try and find out, wouldn't you say. By the way, what did I say about Riquelme? I've often wondered where this reference comes from. If I said he'd be signing for Pompey I assume there must be a quote you could post to prove it. There's certainly a post by me on this forum when it was reported that Fahim would sign Eto'o etc saying there was no way we'd be signing players like that. So, post away to prove your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Cheerio You going somewhere? Oh yes, I forgot. Out of existence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 We probably are paying the wages reported. But we CAN AFFORD THEM. YOU CANNOT. There is the difference, and that's why you are cheating. Is that clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 No, it came from a Pompey fan who happened to be sat at the table next to them as this typical loudmouthed agent shouted about his success so all and sundry could hear. Of course there was and you just happened to know him, socially of course, and he told you all this. You're info is always spot on, I've never doubted you, not once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 We probably are paying the wages reported. But we CAN AFFORD THEM. YOU CANNOT. There is the difference, and that's why you are cheating. Is that clear? We are also paying the PAYE, NI on those wages and not syphoning £xMillion into off shore 'image rights' accounts and we paid the VAT on the transfer. Apart from that, exactly the same as the Skates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Co Ho. Just a simple question, Can you or anyone else of the blue few explain how financially you will avoid going bust. The WUO has been suspended just long enough that you are relegated and no longer the EPL 's problem. You are mortgaging your only lifeline the parachute payments just so you can survive until next season. A good proportion of your players are out of contract, so are worthless at transfer time. The rest are too poor and/or exspensive to sell, so you are stuck with their huge payments next season, or will have to sell them cheap or even give thejm away. The administrator has (reading between the lines) stated that there is no chance of anyone buying you. The land around your stadium is owned by someone else as is the land your offices are built on. You have no assetts and debts of 60 + million which are increasing all the time. A CVA will not happen because the HMRC control more than 25% of those debts. The HMRC still have leave to challenge Chandria's creditor status. Given all the above, please can you answer this serious question. Can you explain how you will not go bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson massey Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 We probably are paying the wages reported. But we CAN AFFORD THEM. YOU CANNOT. There is the difference, and that's why you are cheating. Is that clear? Using Ho's logic, Man U are cheating as the can pay higher wages then most other premier league clubs....... I'm surprised no-one has picked on this blatant cheat, paying massive wages they cant afford.....wait, no.....1 sec......they can afford them, its Pompey im thinking of! If they get out of this relatively easy (ie, small points deduction with no debt left) i think i will lose the will to watch football, (certainly PL football) However, i don't think they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 No, it came from a Pompey fan...... Corp, if you're going to quote Poopey fans, and what they say, then I suggest you have a look at your own forums. They are so full of sh1t and mis truths. Perhaps your mate is one of those posters. Come come my little blue faced friend, you know you only come on here for the truth. Makes me laugh how far behind this thread, many of the blue phew are/were, and now you know it's all true. So anything quoted by your 'friend' I would take with a pinch of salt, until it is verified by fans from the intelligent 'west' side of Hampshire:smt050 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 The whole "cheating" thing is just laughable. We bought players on high salaries because Gaydamak said he could afford it. Then when he stopped we sold any of them that we could. Then Standard bank called in £40m in one go ****ing us financially. Fahim promised cash for signings that didn't materialise and when we did sell players it may, allegedly of course, gone straight to Faraj/ Chainrai's pocket (delete which name you believe not to be the real owner). We tried to offload anyone we could in January but had no takers for James, Utaka, Mullins etc, Boateng couldn't move because of the three clubs rule and Belhadj was at the ACN. Corp corp corp .......Fail (must try much harder) http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2890963/Peter-Storrie-has-questions-to-answer-as-we-reveal-explosive-e-mail.html You have been spending money on players a long time since the money dried up. One of your lastest LOAN aquisitions cost you 170k in AGENTS FEES and over 500k to the club.....yet you didnt have a pot to **** in. (I know its the sun but shows the actual storrie teller email) How can you claim that is right?????????????????? And a huge lol if you think Barnard is on 15k a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 If Pompey are "cheating" so are Saints. Are you going to protest about it? Of course not. Cheerio Nice try Corpy, but there's a small bit missing from your playground logic: we'd only be cheating if we stopped repaying our debts. Taking on additional staff in the knowledge that your business can't afford them can only be considered cheating. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Fair point - although I am willing to bet if we were in the prem at the time of us going bust then the debt levels would have been far greater. I am willing to bet the opposite. Sky money is even larger now, and Saints were living within their means when they were last in the prem. Yes, they had a debt (stadium) but it was sustainable even then (before relegation). No matter how misguided and seemingly arrogant he was, at least in the end he was honourable. Better to be misguided then (allegedly) criminal. Sorry, I wouldn't call going into administration a few days after the carry-over date honourable. I'd call it vindictive and spiteful. :mad: I wish I had the strength left to respond in full to the latest developments, but I don't. All I can see is that disgusting, pathetic little club slinker off without any real punishment of note that truly matches their crime. They've been insolvent for years, they've cheated, bribed, ducked and dived their way around things and now it's finally caught up with them - but only to an extent. During the whole duration of this situation they have repeatedly attempted to blame everyone else other than themselves, they've spent money they haven't got (thus weakening their rivals) and now Avram is threatening to field a weakened team? What a f()cking tosser. Their fans rank among the most moronic, blinkered fans in the country (see Corp Ho for a prime example). Not only this, but their world famous 'best supporters in the world' are once again showing their real colours (especially when the Sky cameras are not there). In reality, they are no more than a ****-poor few thousand gypsies with mental problems (or a few hundred if they're away from home). Worse still has been the constant 'woe is me' bleating that has been emanating from that part of the world ever since things turned a bit sour. I've never seen such a group of fans (and the manager, to be fair) so misguided in their beliefs. What is worse though, I've never seen so many people acting a bunch of little girls over it. Despite all the conniving, cheating and alleged laundering, they are actually convinced they are being hard done by. This rotting cesspit of a football club deserves nothing more than immediate expulsion and winding up, followed by jail for all the perpetrators. Can I nominate this for the rant-of-the-year award? Love it. :smt041 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporate Ho Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Co Ho. Just a simple question, Can you or anyone else of the blue few explain how financially you will avoid going bust. The WUO has been suspended just long enough that you are relegated and no longer the EPL 's problem. You are mortgaging your only lifeline the parachute payments just so you can survive until next season. A good proportion of your players are out of contract, so are worthless at transfer time. The rest are too poor and/or exspensive to sell, so you are stuck with their huge payments next season, or will have to sell them cheap or even give thejm away. The administrator has (reading between the lines) stated that there is no chance of anyone buying you. The land around your stadium is owned by someone else as is the land your offices are built on. You have no assetts and debts of 60 + million which are increasing all the time. A CVA will not happen because the HMRC control more than 25% of those debts. The HMRC still have leave to challenge Chandria's creditor status. Given all the above, please can you answer this serious question. Can you explain how you will not go bust? The only way we'll avoid it is if someone does a deal to buy us. Your point about Chainrai's creditor status is an interesting one because if he becomes an unsecured creditor HMRC control less than 25% of the debts. However, it's been widely reported that Gaydamak would accept far less than the £30m he's supposedly owed and Chainrai has allegedly already had much of the money he's owed. The point is no-one really knows what our debts are - it goes up and doen in the papers every day. The Lloyd group is apparently genuine but the concern many Pompey fans have is that Chainrai appointed the administrator and that he'll favour Chainrai much as he was supposed to have done with the Swindon chairman (who also appointed him). However, the biggest opportunity for any new owner would be a new stadium at Horsea, backed by a hotel chain and incorporating the concert hall. If someone were to take a long term view that could change everything - but who knows if that will happen. Your points about the players are completely valid but all depends on if new owners come in. There is interest but if Chainrai buys the club back then we're fooked. Hope that helps Using Ho's logic, Man U are cheating as the can pay higher wages then most other premier league clubs....... I'm surprised no-one has picked on this blatant cheat, paying massive wages they cant afford.....wait, no.....1 sec......they can afford them, its Pompey im thinking of! Man U make massive money to sign players on big wages from SKY, sponsorship deals, merchandise sales etc etc etc. You make money from gate receipts and sign players because Liebherr is happy, for now, to pay for them. Do you not understand the diffference? Your success is dependent on the same factor Pompey's (relative) recenty success has been - an owner willing to throw money at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 After reading Corps post, i now know pompey players train in southampton, live in southampton and meet in hotels in southampton. they must only be here for the money not the joys of portsea island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 (edited) As it was the MD of Stellar, I've emailed Nicola Cortese regarding his remarks and would think he might be getting a call.:smt084 Maybe something about confidentiality clauses and integrity. I feel a touch of the Echo coming on. Edited 19 March, 2010 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 You make money from gate receipts and sign players because Liebherr is happy, for now, to pay for them. Do you not understand the diffference? Your success is dependent on the same factor Pompey's (relative) recenty success has been - an owner willing to throw money at the club. LOL at how wrong you are, again. Our overheads are a fraction of yours and our gates are huge in comparison and we have no debts give us ooooooodles of dosh to spend. As a meerkat would say, simples. Of course, as a back up we have a genuinely minted owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I love the way Corp spouts so much shiiiit, as if he's ITK when throughout the last 12 months he's been shown up to be a really clueless gimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the colonel Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 Coming on here never fails to make me laugh. What a bunch of whing little girls you lot are, whatever you may say this whole thing is because of your bitterness at Pompey being above you for the first time you can remember and you hate it. Just admit that's what the whole thing is about and we'll all be happier (and yes I know we're down next year and possibly going straight through that division too but as long as we're still in existence I don't give a monkeys). The whole "cheating" thing is just laughable. We bought players on high salaries because Gaydamak said he could afford it. Then when he stopped we sold any of them that we could. Then Standard bank called in £40m in one go ****ing us financially. Fahim promised cash for signings that didn't materialise and when we did sell players it may, allegedly of course, gone straight to Faraj/ Chainrai's pocket (delete which name you believe not to be the real owner). We tried to offload anyone we could in January but had no takers for James, Utaka, Mullins etc, Boateng couldn't move because of the three clubs rule and Belhadj was at the ACN. But if we're cheating by signing players we can't afford what are you doing? You're paying players £15K a week in Div 3 yet are offering tickets to Hartlepool for a fiver! That adds up doesn't it? What happens if Nazi Boy (I know he wasn't born until after the war before you start bleating) gets fed up bankrolling you if you don't reach the PL? It took Jack Hayward 10 years to get Wolves there despite spending millions. Here's a true story for you. The MD of the Stellar Group (football agents) met Boateng in a hotel in Southampton yesterday. He was bragging about the deals his group have done including Lee (is that his name) Barnard moving to you. He was telling Boateng what an easy touch you are and how you were already offering way more than Leeds were when he told you Leeds had upped their offer (they hadn't) and you offered even more money. He was laughing and saying what an easy touch agents considered you at the moment. Does that scenario remind you of somewhere else close by fairly recently? If Pompey are "cheating" so are Saints. Are you going to protest about it? Of course not. Cheerio You coming on here never fails to make us laugh.....at you Didn't read any further, probably same drivel different day....go back to your garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the colonel Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 I love the way Corp spouts so much shiiiit, as if he's ITK when throughout the last 12 months he's been shown up to be a really clueless gimp. Clueless gimp.....come on he's not that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 The only way we'll avoid it is if someone does a deal to buy us. Your point about Chainrai's creditor status is an interesting one because if he becomes an unsecured creditor HMRC control less than 25% of the debts. However, it's been widely reported that Gaydamak would accept far less than the £30m he's supposedly owed and Chainrai has allegedly already had much of the money he's owed. The point is no-one really knows what our debts are - it goes up and doen in the papers every day. The Lloyd group is apparently genuine but the concern many Pompey fans have is that Chainrai appointed the administrator and that he'll favour Chainrai much as he was supposed to have done with the Swindon chairman (who also appointed him). However, the biggest opportunity for any new owner would be a new stadium at Horsea, backed by a hotel chain and incorporating the concert hall. If someone were to take a long term view that could change everything - but who knows if that will happen. Your points about the players are completely valid but all depends on if new owners come in. There is interest but if Chainrai buys the club back then we're fooked. Hope that helps Man U make massive money to sign players on big wages from SKY, sponsorship deals, merchandise sales etc etc etc. You make money from gate receipts and sign players because Liebherr is happy, for now, to pay for them. Do you not understand the diffference? Your success is dependent on the same factor Pompey's (relative) recenty success has been - an owner willing to throw money at the club. yes, but you miss the point. you cheated because you took on players that you couldn't afford, ie couldn't physically pay the tax on their wages. we do pay the tax, and the wages. we aren't cheating because we haven't failed to pay anybody. for what it's worth i respect you for trying to come on here and stick up for your club, it's just a shame you let emotion cloud logic. don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 19 March, 2010 Share Posted 19 March, 2010 You make money from gate receipts and sign players because Liebherr is happy, for now, to pay for them. Do you not understand the diffference? Your success is dependent on the same factor Pompey's (relative) recenty success has been - an owner willing to throw money at the club. The only difference is the cash is going into the club in the form of hard cash, not in the form of loans. Sure, we only have the owners word for that, but it's on record, and a fact that he's never run his business on debt. Cortese, in his position as Chairman, confirmed last week on Radio Solent that we are, and will remain, debt free. The difference with us is that we landed on our feet because a proper businessman, with a famous name, saw a very good opportunity. He's a proper Billionaire, obtained through proper businesses in a proper way. What he's spent on us so far is very much loose change. The less said about your owner the better. One thing for certain, he doesn';t fit into any of the criteria outline above re Markus. Unfortunately, the desire and greed of Pompey to 'succeed' on the pitch was at the expense of any infrastructure, demonstrating there was never a desire to hang around for the longterm. Meanwhile, we have had plans approved to redevelop our training ground, which was already at a decent standard. Because there is nothing to buy at Pompey, you will be stuck with chancers who sniff an opportunity to syphon off a big whack of tv money. No sane businessman will touch you with a bargepole. There are better options out there, if you want to throw money away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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