Chez Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Apparently, even if Pompey qualify for the Europa League through the FA Cup, they won't be able to play in it as they didn't apply for a UEFA club licence in time really? That's classic. Have you a link to a news item so I can forward this to a few skates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/No-European-tour-for-Blues.6134260.jp In their local paper so I'm sure most are aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/No-European-tour-for-Blues.6134260.jp In their local paper so I'm sure most are aware. These minimum requirements include youth football development, coaching standards, stadium and training facilities, audited accounts, settlement of debts and additional financial disclosures. Do they get a prize for failing on all of them?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Storries case isn't until 2011. Which if it all works out the right way ....mean 3 consecutive seasons of points deductions The last date i have seen is April 15 this year - from the last time he was in court http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/8469860.stm "He spoke only to confirm his name and the case was adjourned until 15 April when he is due to enter a plea. Mr Storrie, of St Helen's Road, Hayling Island, Hampshire, was given unconditional bail." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 It's not that they forgot to apply. They couldn't. They would have been turned down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Do they get a prize for failing on all of them?? They don't fail on all of them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 They don't fail on all of them though. Which one don't they fail on then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 They don't fail on all of them though. Slight exaggeration. Make that most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 These minimum requirements include youth football development, coaching standards, stadium and training facilities, audited accounts, settlement of debts and additional financial disclosures. Do they get a prize for failing on all of them?? I think i read somewhere on here that the PL give clubs 2m towards youth development, I wonder if that money is still there to be used for that purpose Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 (edited) The reason it's strange is that they should have already provided a copy of the loan instrument to Companies House, within 21 days of the charge(s) being registered. If not, the charge(s) is/are invalid. i.e. Marc Jacobs should have deposited the loan instrument at Companies House by the end of January... If he hadn't sent the document creating the charge in (ie the debenture) Companies House would not have registered the charge. It's a nailed on certainty that something was sent in and appeared prima facie to create a valid charge. What you are not required to do, however, is to deposit evidence of the flow of any money. Edited 9 March, 2010 by benjii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 (edited) Which one don't they fail on then? Well unless UEFA have changed stadium and training requirements since 2008/09 when Pompey used Fratton Park and Wellington training ground for their UEFA Cup run. There are worse grounds than Fratton Park in this seasons European competitions. Just look at the size of some of the clubs in the 1st qualifying rounds! Edited 9 March, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Well unless UEFA have changed stadium and training requirements since 2008/09 when Pompey used Fratton Park and Wellington training ground for their UEFA Cup run. There are worse grounds than Fratton Park in this seasons European competitions. Just look at the size of some of the clubs in the 1st qualifying rounds! They might have different requirements for different rounds, in the 1st qualifying rounds you get pub teams from Andorra and Luxembourg who literally play on recreation grounds. If one of their teams got far in the competition and drew a fairly big side they'd probably have to switch to a bigger stadium nearby? Different competition I know but when England have played Andorra away recently they've had to move from Andorra's usual place to a Spanish stadium due to England's large fanbase. As for Pompey, they played AC Milan at Fratton Park so can't see their stadium being a problem for European competition. I may be completely wrong :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 They might have different requirements for different rounds, in the 1st qualifying rounds you get pub teams from Andorra and Luxembourg who literally play on recreation grounds. If one of their teams got far in the competition and drew a fairly big side they'd probably have to switch to a bigger stadium nearby? Different competition I know but when England have played Andorra away recently they've had to move from Andorra's usual place to a Spanish stadium due to England's large fanbase. As for Pompey, they played AC Milan at Fratton Park so can't see their stadium being a problem for European competition. I may be completely wrong :wink: That would be a money issue. Bigger stadium = more ticket allocation to the English = more cash for the Andorran FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 I don't think this article from today's Guardian has been linked on here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/mar/08/portsmouth-fa-cup-prize-money It talks about all their prize money / parachute payments / Sky money being withheld. So £600,000 being held by the FA, don't suppose we have had our ticket money yet off Pompey, or have we just conviently given up on it as a gesture to our neighbours! Can't believe we've just written off £120,000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 The last date i have seen is April 15 this year - from the last time he was in court http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/8469860.stm "He spoke only to confirm his name and the case was adjourned until 15 April when he is due to enter a plea. Mr Storrie, of St Helen's Road, Hayling Island, Hampshire, was given unconditional bail." Meanwhile, Portsmouth chief executive Peter Storrie, 57, appeared at Southwark Crown Court in London yesterday in connection with allegations that he cheated the taxman over the signing-on fee for midfielder Amdy Faye, when he moved from Auxerre to Portsmouth, between July 1, 2003 and November 28, 2007. The case was adjourned to April 15 but Judge Peter Testar also set a trial date for more than a year’s time: May 16, 2011. Storrie, who denies the charge, remains on unconditional bail Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1244847/Sol-Campbell-sues-troubled-Portsmouth-money-owed-Arsenal-defender.html#ixzz0hgfy6Bxq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 So £600,000 being held by the FA, don't suppose we have had our ticket money yet off Pompey, or have we just conviently given up on it as a gesture to our neighbours! Can't believe we've just written off £120,000? No we owe them money, as they were entitled to 40% ? of the match revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 No we owe them money, as they were entitled to 40% ? of the match revenue True, but isn't all revenue channelled via the FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 True, but isn't all revenue channelled via the FA? Probably but they owe us nothing, our take would have been more. If you are saying they may have spent the ticket money they received and it has not gone to the fa for distribution then that may be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 No we owe them money, as they were entitled to 40% ? of the match revenue You are the Chairman of Southampton Football Club. You receive a desperate phone call from your counterpart at Portsmouth City Football Club, who explains that unless they receive the match revenue from the recent FA tie at St. Marys, the famous club, founded over 112 years ago, will be wound up and cease to exist, next Monday, at the High Court, live on Radio 5. You had earmarked the money for new carpets in the board room and the reupholstery of the executive seats. Should you:Take a day off and listen to the winding up of Portsmouth, live on e Radio 5, or... Go to training ground, watch the guys kick a ball around, write up your programme notes after lunch and listen to the programme on iPlayer, over a glass of chilled Chardonney, that evening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 You are the Chairman of Southampton Football Club. You receive a desperate phone call from your counterpart at Portsmouth City Football Club, who explains that unless they receive the match revenue from the recent FA tie at St. Marys, the famous club, founded over 112 years ago, will be wound up and cease to exist, next Monday, at the High Court, live on Radio 5. You had earmarked the money for new carpets in the board room and the reupholstery of the executive seats. Should you:Take a day off and listen to the winding up of Portsmouth, live on e Radio 5, or... Go to training ground, watch the guys kick a ball around, write up your programme notes after lunch and listen to the programme on iPlayer, over a glass of chilled Chardonney, that evening? Difficult one, probably would start talking back in a deep asian voice and pretend they had the wrong number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 http://www.businessesforsale.com/ft/a958590.aspx Portsmouth Football Club For Sale Hampshire, United Kingdom Financials Asking price: Undisclosed Sales revenue: Undisclosed Net profit: Undisclosed Fixtures value: Undisclosed Stock value: Undisclosed Business description By order of the Joint Adminitrators Andrew Andronikou, Peter Kubik and Michael Kiely of UHY Hacker Young. Expressions of interest by 19th March 2010. Preliminary details available on completion of confidentiality agreement. For more information contact Peter Kubik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 http://www.businessesforsale.com/ft/a958590.aspx Portsmouth Football Club For Sale Hampshire, United Kingdom Financials Asking price: Undisclosed Sales revenue: Undisclosed Net profit: Undisclosed Fixtures value: Undisclosed Stock value: Undisclosed Business description By order of the Joint Adminitrators Andrew Andronikou, Peter Kubik and Michael Kiely of UHY Hacker Young. Expressions of interest by 19th March 2010. Preliminary details available on completion of confidentiality agreement. For more information contact Peter Kubik Is it correct to put it up for sale as Portsmouth football club and not Portsmouth City football club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesend Saint Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 http://www.businessesforsale.com/ft/a958590.aspx Portsmouth Football Club For Sale Hampshire, United Kingdom Financials Asking price: Undisclosed Sales revenue: Undisclosed Net profit: Undisclosed Fixtures value: Undisclosed Stock value: Undisclosed Business description By order of the Joint Adminitrators Andrew Andronikou, Peter Kubik and Michael Kiely of UHY Hacker Young. Expressions of interest by 19th March 2010. Preliminary details available on completion of confidentiality agreement. For more information contact Peter Kubik Go on everyone, hit the "Click here to contact seller" button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 i don,t mind him posting on these boards has it would be a boring forum if it was just a saints fans love-in. plus i love how we can take the Micky out of his club. thats the funniest thing ever posted on here. Love-in?? you must be f*cking joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Go on everyone, hit the "Click here to contact seller" button just think, every enquiry they would have to check just in case and as they probably are charging an hourly rate, ti would eat into the fees alloted. I wouldnt of course but Im sure some will, and many have the know-how to string it along for quite a few days. I do not condone it by the way. Pes' mate might try, he certainly put up a good case with us. Perhaps he could put forward Vince Hilaire as the Chairman of the syndicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 No we owe them money, as they were entitled to 40% ? of the match revenue 45% I believe, of the proceeds after matchday costs. 10% goes to the FA pot for distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 http://www.businessesforsale.com/ft/a958590.aspx Portsmouth Football Club For Sale Hampshire, United Kingdom Financials Asking price: Undisclosed Sales revenue: Undisclosed Net profit: Undisclosed Fixtures value: Undisclosed Stock value: Undisclosed Business description By order of the Joint Adminitrators Andrew Andronikou, Peter Kubik and Michael Kiely of UHY Hacker Young. Expressions of interest by 19th March 2010. Preliminary details available on completion of confidentiality agreement. For more information contact Peter Kubik Should'nt the "undisclosed" indicated beside each of the above be changed to "See Saints Web Forum" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Should'nt the "undisclosed" indicated beside each of the above be changed to "See Saints Web Forum" ? lol. we should be the link to a due diligence site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Meanwhile, Portsmouth chief executive Peter Storrie, 57, appeared at Southwark Crown Court in London yesterday in connection with allegations that he cheated the taxman over the signing-on fee for midfielder Amdy Faye, when he moved from Auxerre to Portsmouth, between July 1, 2003 and November 28, 2007. The case was adjourned to April 15 but Judge Peter Testar also set a trial date for more than a year’s time: May 16, 2011. Storrie, who denies the charge, remains on unconditional bail Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1244847/Sol-Campbell-sues-troubled-Portsmouth-money-owed-Arsenal-defender.html#ixzz0hgfy6Bxq Thanks for that. I will add May 16 2011 to my list of dates. So you are right the probable charges against the Club will follow that date (if they still exist), and not this summer as I expected. I hope they are making the 12 interested parties aware of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 http://www.businessesforsale.com/ft/a958590.aspx Portsmouth Football Club For Sale Hampshire, United Kingdom Financials Asking price: Undisclosed Sales revenue: Undisclosed Net profit: Undisclosed Fixtures value: Undisclosed Stock value: Undisclosed Comedy value: Priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Go on everyone, hit the "Click here to contact seller" button Hmmm Time for a Mysterious Middle East Consortium maybe? :smt074 If only I didn't have some work to do the next couple of days, hope the deal's still on offer on Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 No we owe them money, as they were entitled to 40% ? of the match revenue We do yes, but they also owed us £120k for the tickets originally, as we didn't ask for payment upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 http://www.businessesforsale.com/ft/a958590.aspx Portsmouth Football Club For Sale Hampshire, United Kingdom Financials Asking price: Undisclosed Sales revenue: Undisclosed Net profit: Undisclosed Fixtures value: Undisclosed Stock value: Undisclosed Business description By order of the Joint Adminitrators Andrew Andronikou, Peter Kubik and Michael Kiely of UHY Hacker Young. Expressions of interest by 19th March 2010. Preliminary details available on completion of confidentiality agreement. For more information contact Peter Kubik I have to say, it's a great advert. They look even more appealing to the unsuspecting buyer with all those 'undisclosed' comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Go on everyone, hit the "Click here to contact seller" button Have to admit that it is much more high-tech than Storrietellers phone-call/post-it note method ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Have to admit that it is much more high-tech than Storrietellers phone-call/post-it note method ! That's a bit harsh. I have it on good authority that he received an email as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 I have to say, it's a great advert. They look even more appealing to the unsuspecting buyer with all those 'undisclosed' comments. Agree. Also by advertising in the FT they are trying to tap into the 'serious' market who obviously will be unaware of any unfair and adverse comment about PFC in the downkmarket media like all the broadsheets, tabloids, radio and tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 That's a bit harsh. I have it on good authority that he received an email as well. Of course, how could I have forgotten that! Do they still do Telex too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double1 Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Portsmouth Sh1tty Football Club For Sale Hampshire, United Kingdom Financials Asking price: 1 Fish Supper Sales revenue: Pick a number, double it, add ........ Net profit: Profit? Fixtures value: 6 points max if results go well Stock value: £38 million honest Business description By order of the Joint Adminitrators Andrew Andronikou, Peter Kubik and Michael Kiely of UHY Hacker Young. Expressions of interest by 19th March 2010. Preliminary details available on completion of confidentiality agreement. For more information contact Peter Kubik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Portsmouth Fishy Football Club For Sale Hampshire, United Kingdom Financials Asking price: £70m Sales revenue: about a quarter of that Net profit: minus £35m Fixtures value: about 10 and 6 Stock value: **** all Potential revenue - 250,000 supporters at £50 a ticket, circa 20-25 per annum Business description By order of the Joint Administrators Andrew Andronikou, Peter Kubik and Michael Kiely of UHY Hacker Young. Expressions of interest- whenever you can get it to us, but bear in mind we have 12 other serious buyers, and the emails to prove it. Preliminary details available on completion of confidentiality agreement, or we can meet you at your dads house. For due diligence visit here http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=645914&posted=1#post645914 For more information contact Charles Sale c/o Daily Mail, HMRC, HM Courts Service, or Dubai Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Is it correct to put it up for sale as Portsmouth football club and not Portsmouth City football club? I think that this is a valued point nick. Either the FT has made a mistake, or the Admin man has. FWIW, the matie who bought PFC as a joke, and is now inundated with creditors wanting their money, will be relieved that the nice man at PCFC, is trying to sell his club for him;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 I think that this is a valued point nick. Either the FT has made a mistake, or the Admin man has. FWIW, the matie who bought PFC as a joke, and is now inundated with creditors wanting their money, will be relieved that the nice man at PCFC, is trying to sell his club for him;) That's what i thought. It shows that even the change over of name led to confusion and enabled a lot of debt to be left bhind it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Is it me or is 10 days to declare an expression onf interest a very small window? -Could be the norm or a meaningless date if potential buyers come in after - does anybody know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Is it me or is 10 days to declare an expression onf interest a very small window? -Could be the norm or a meaningless date if potential buyers come in after - does anybody know IMO they need someone to ante up enough dough to pay the players wages, in return for some sort of exclusivity deal. Therefore, related to payday, I reckon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 http://www.businessesforsale.com/ft/a958590.aspx Portsmouth Football Club For Sale Hampshire, United Kingdom Financials Asking price: Undisclosed Sales revenue: Undisclosed Net profit: Undisclosed Fixtures value: Undisclosed Stock value: Undisclosed Business description By order of the Joint Adminitrators Andrew Andronikou, Peter Kubik and Michael Kiely of UHY Hacker Young. Expressions of interest by 19th March 2010. Preliminary details available on completion of confidentiality agreement. For more information contact Peter Kubik So when they say there are 12 interested parties does that mean 12 people have hit that "Contact seller" button? oops sorry, make that 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 So when they say there are 12 interested parties does that mean 12 people have hit that "Contact seller" button? oops sorry, make that 13. oops, 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 These minimum requirements include youth football development, coaching standards, stadium and training facilities, audited accounts, settlement of debts and additional financial disclosures. Do they get a prize for failing on all of them?? chortle (it won't allow snig ger) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Can't think why Joey Deacon would indicate his interest, but he has! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Can't think why Joey Deacon would indicate his interest, but he has! I wonder when Mr Astrologicalfees will announce these new bidders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Hmmm Time for a Mysterious Middle East Consortium maybe? :smt074 If only I didn't have some work to do the next couple of days, hope the deal's still on offer on Monday By Monday it will be a Last few days of the sale like DFS, or it will be a BOGOF buy Poopey Get Havant & Waterlooville Free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 9 March, 2010 Share Posted 9 March, 2010 Confirmed on BBC they have missed the deadline to apply in case they make the UEFA cup. What a shambles of a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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