Danish Saint Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 I am not going to say it..... but are they dead yet? It's like watching a very slow and painfull death. Just get it over with!
bristolsaint29 Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Pimply News says the 12, and bbc matt says 15th ?? paperwork to be filed by 12th according to twitter
StuRomseySaint Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Just found a copy of the proof of funds given to the judge by Pompeys lawyers.
CB Saint Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Ever watched a cat playing with a mouse? It is almost cruel now.
dubai_phil Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Ah right, so an administrator will give the quote and if the creditor thinks its acceptable then he can apoint that administrator. Then the fees get paid at the end. I wasnt sure if that initial quote was to be paid before the admin gets started so that his back is covered because he is liable or something. Not really going anywhere with this point but was just trying to understand. Now, I would never say this in the context of British Business Practices, but in a Mediteraneanish Middle Easternish Orientish environment I would expect the conversation over dinner to go possibly along the lines of. How much are your fees going to be? Only that much? Ah so if I was to win how much would they be? Never happens outside this region though
PES Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Fantastic News! In all fairness, I want this to be a 'fresh' start for pompey and for better or worse I want Chainrai's involvement investigated and the administrator checked over.IMO best we could of hoped for.
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 You're probably right, best way is to wipe the slate clean and start from fresh. You've had too many scumbags involved now that have sullied the name.
badgerx16 Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Suppose I'd better get some work done now Lunchtime, surely ?
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 ****ers got away with it again. Roll on next friday. Wouldn't say that. They would never have been WU today. I would have said it is good that they are now going to do some investigation. Roll on Friday !!
ART Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Back in court on the 15th Judge calls for another hearing to establish validity of appointment, week commencing 15/3. He wants evidence of payments b/w club & chainrai Et voila, The 15th of March, the Ides of March and for our fishy friends the choice of dates is one they should be very well bewaring of. Beware the Ides of March oh fishy ones. Who is the Brutus who will punge in that dagger to your back. Methinks it will be Storyteller who'll do it to save his own slimy skin.
NickG Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Fantastic News! In all fairness, I want this to be a 'fresh' start for pompey and for better or worse I want Chainrai's involvement investigated and the administrator checked over.IMO best we could of hoped for. to survive for another 2 weeks isn't a high ambition!
dubai_phil Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 So Poorsmuff's lawyer went to Court, made his speech The Judge said Prove It. Yeah lol at the Snooze feed saying it is a big result for them.
Weston Saint Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Now confirmed. Papers to be lodges by 12th March - Hearing week commencing 15th March listed for 1 day.
CB Saint Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 to survive for another 2 weeks isn't a high ambition! It's another two weeks delay to be fair. Gods knows what will happen in the meantime. Delay, delay delay - that the name of the game here.
dubai_phil Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Et voila, The 15th of March, the Ides of March and for our fishy friends the choice of dates is one they should be very well bewaring of. Beware the Ides of March oh fishy ones. Who is the Brutus who will punge in that dagger to your back. Methinks it will be Storyteller who'll do it to save his own slimy skin. I've got a REALLY nasty feeling that you mentioned that some time ago...... That's gonna be real spooky:rolleyes:
NickG Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 bbc feed saying its good news for skates fans as well
saintjay77 Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Wouldn't say that. They would never have been WU today. I would have said it is good that they are now going to do some investigation. Roll on Friday !! Yeah they havnt got away with anything today. If anything HMRC want things looked into more to make sure all is correct and the courts have granted there wish. If its a dodgy deal and the courts did nothing today then they would have defo got away with it. Just have to wait for the 12th/15th? to find out how dodgy if at all the whole admin/loans are.
dronskisaint Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Fantastic News! In all fairness, I want this to be a 'fresh' start for pompey and for better or worse I want Chainrai's involvement investigated and the administrator checked over.IMO best we could of hoped for. Deeeeee looooooooooooo....& then dead! You'll get your wish:rolleyes:
Mister Neil Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 It's my birthday on the 15th. Am I going to get the best present ever?
dubai_phil Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 On behalf of SWF Thread Team members I would like to thank Judge Norris for his Sterling efforts today and his decision to hold the next hearing on 15th March. This will of course provide the extra boost and time required for us to push on and breach the magical 30,000 posts mark. the downside is I'm fecking working all day away from the innerweb
Danish Saint Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/mar/02/portsmouth-need-7m-march
NickG Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 sky sports news going live to court after Capello interview
Danny Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 If you read his posts alongside the BBC Twitter feed through @BBC_Matt - there's a distinction. Which is, the BBC are reporting the facts - The News are reporting what suits their target market - mushrooms. The News reporter isn't in court - he's getting his information from his two colleagues that are, which probably explains the lack of info as he's probably getting it about third hand by the time it gets to him. The BBC guy is tweeting direct from the court. Well, outside it I guess, as it's illegal to do so from in the court room. He'll have to keep running outside every ten minutes or risk being found in contempt!
Danish Saint Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 £86M in debt..... administration may not be feasible.... Loving it!
JackFrost Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 is there any possibility they could be wound up on the 15th, if the administration deal turns out to be dodgy?
Joensuu Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 I got on their feed! Yup, along with 'TCWTB' 'Barry Fry' & 'Norwegian Blue'... Well done SWF...
bristolsaint29 Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 I still laugh over the fact my 26 month old son has a bank account and they don't.
tony13579 Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 On behalf of SWF Thread Team members I would like to thank Judge Norris for his Sterling efforts today and his decision to hold the next hearing on 15th March. This will of course provide the extra boost and time required for us to push on and breach the magical 30,000 posts mark. the downside is I'm fecking working all day away from the innerweb You have 15 days to save up for an iPhone
pedg Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 is there any possibility they could be wound up on the 15th, if the administration deal turns out to be dodgy? My guess is that there is no documents that prove that Chainrai was a secured creditor of PCFC so unless they get someone with a record of forging documents in court cases in they are probably going to come back fairly quickly and ask for the court to put them into admin instead.
Goalie66 Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 So the net result is that the EPL will probably defer their decision to deduct -9 points until after the next hearing. Right?
Red Alert Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 This really messes up AAs plans, as anything he were to do could I guess be deemed (Illegal?) if he was found to have been wrongly appointed. So the whole admin process of selling everything they can, getting rid of staff etc must be put on hold until after the hearing in two weeks. Presumably then the PL wont take any points off of them until after this date too?
badgerx16 Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 My guess is that there is no documents that prove that Chainrai was a secured creditor of PCFC so unless they get someone with a record of forging documents in court cases in they are probably going to come back fairly quickly and ask for the court to put them into admin instead. Now, who do we know with such a history ? ... It's on the tip of my tongue.....no, no, I just can't recall; maybe somebody in PFC's accounts department could help
saintjay77 Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 My guess is that there is no documents that prove that Chainrai was a secured creditor of PCFC so unless they get someone with a record of forging documents in court cases in they are probably going to come back fairly quickly and ask for the court to put them into admin instead. Is that something they were trying to argue today? I mean the legality of Chainrai being able to put them into admin? If so, Brilliant
pedg Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Is that something they were trying to argue today? I mean the legality of Chainrai being able to put them into admin? If so, Brilliant two quotes Mr Mitchell said the statement of affairs shows the club owe Portpin LTD £13.5m and the HMRC want evidence of that. 'We haven't so far had an answer to that,' he said. Mr Mitchell said there are issues about money lent to the club. He said Tanya Robins had said Portpin LTD had lent money to Falcondrone, not the club. He said: 'We say that the evidence of Miss Robins is that Portpin provided money to Falcondrone not to the club so its all very mysterious.'
Channon's Sideburns Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 Talksport are discussing it on air now.
andysstuff Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 So, any chance of BC just holding his hands up and saying 'it's a fair cop' and opting for liquidation, or is that just too easy an option? Also wonder whether Birmingham may consider postponement of the FA Cup game until PFC's legal status is resolved?
pedg Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=749475&sec=england&cc=5739 Because of the enormous sensitivity of the case, Soccernet's Fratton Park insider wishes to remain anonymous, but said: "The Revenue are out to break the rule which puts football creditors to the head of the queue and the Revenue down the pecking order. "The Revenue are unhappy with this arrangement and want to use a big stick to get the government to intervene and impose regulations on football that the Revenue must be the number one creditor. "The worry is that they have an agenda and are using a big stick against Portsmouth." I wonder who Harry Harris's secret squirrel insider at pompey could be
Channon's Sideburns Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=749475&sec=england&cc=5739 Because of the enormous sensitivity of the case, Soccernet's Fratton Park insider wishes to remain anonymous, but said: "The Revenue are out to break the rule which puts football creditors to the head of the queue and the Revenue down the pecking order. "The Revenue are unhappy with this arrangement and want to use a big stick to get the government to intervene and impose regulations on football that the Revenue must be the number one creditor. "The worry is that they have an agenda and are using a big stick against Portsmouth." I wonder who Harry Harris's secret squirrel insider at pompey could be When oh when is Storrie going to fall on his sword?
saintjay77 Posted 2 March, 2010 Posted 2 March, 2010 two quotes Mr Mitchell said the statement of affairs shows the club owe Portpin LTD £13.5m and the HMRC want evidence of that. 'We haven't so far had an answer to that,' he said. Mr Mitchell said there are issues about money lent to the club. He said Tanya Robins had said Portpin LTD had lent money to Falcondrone, not the club. He said: 'We say that the evidence of Miss Robins is that Portpin provided money to Falcondrone not to the club so its all very mysterious.' Ah so they are questioning it but not directly. Sounds like they are setting up for the next question which will be "mr Judge, Can you now tell this bunch of idiots to get stuffed and can you get things done correctly so we can Wind this pathetic club up?" Well would be nice if the Judge is as much of a Saint as HMRC is. lol
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