Saint Keith Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 whilst it may be a tad premature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 (edited) Brilliant -on sky - the leading bidder Cattermole we asked for proof of funds and he gave a piece of paper from company didn't know - asked for reference from bank - they couldn't we were dealing with 22 year old man asked to meet him at his office he said he didn't have office but asked us to go to his dad's house! ROTFPMSL did they say if it was written in crayon as well. Had to LOL at Cattermole's interview earlier on, only caught the end of it. He was quizzed about being fit & proper person test, and the reports about him in the press, his said his layers are putting together a defamation of character case against the press, but when asked about his tax & fraud case against the government he said he'd never denied it? Perfect match for the club IMHO. Edited 1 March, 2010 by Under Weststand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 It seems to have disappeared now! Works for me: COURT 53 Before MR JUSTICE NORRIS Tuesday, 2 March 2010 At half past 10 GENERAL LIST GLC 37/10 Her Majesty's Commissioners for Revenue and Customs v Portsmouth City Football Club Ltd GLC 38/10 Same v Same GLC 51/10 Same v Same GLC 52/10 Grosvenor Basingstoke Properties Ltd and Grosvenor Basingstoke Management Ltd v Portsmouth City Football Club Ltd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 It seems to have disappeared now! it is there, court 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 It seems to have disappeared now! court 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1254678/Portsmouth-set-new-High-Court-hearing-HMRC-challenge-voluntary-administration.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 At least they went out on a high, winning to mighty Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 I was jst thinking it'd gone a bit quiet. Good old Pompey, there's never a dull moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 lol. Loving the hmrc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Do the Revenue go to the High Court as suggested in order they are seen "basically crossing their Is and dotting their Ts" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 They tiptoed backwards towards the camera, turned round to face it in classic Hammer horror fashion, only to be confronted by the grinning and contorted face of ---- 'The TAXMAN'.:axe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Why would HRMC go back to court, spending a considerable amount of money to do so, just to "dot some i's and cross some t's"!!!! This man is an utter buffoon surely?!?! I was under the impression that as they were under a WUO they could not enter Administration - perhaps that's what HMRC are challenging? Just when Pimpley fans thought it was safe to ring their bell.....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Every time Nickh claims that they will 'get away with it' - something worse happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Every time Nickh claims that they will 'get away with it' - something worse happens! Long may he make those claims then !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 I'm actually laughing out loud at some of these posts. Pompey really are a comedy writer's dream! Talk about kicking a club while they're down! Everyone wading in to boot Pompey's motionless carcass in the bum. More of the same please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 COURT 53 Before MR JUSTICE NORRIS (new Super Hero (status pending)) Tuesday, 2 March 2010 At half past 10 GENERAL LIST GLC 37/10 Her Majesty's Commissioners for Revenue and Customs v Portsmouth City Football Club Ltd GLC 38/10 Same v Same GLC 51/10 Same v Same GLC 52/10 Grosvenor Basingstoke Properties Ltd and Grosvenor Basingstoke Management Ltd v Portsmouth City Football Club Ltd I thought the other bods had been paid and discharged??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 We're not unduly worried and expect the administration to proceed." - the Administrator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 We're not unduly worried and expect the administration to proceed." - the Administrator He also does not know why HMRC are going back to court though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 At least the judge is easy going on people... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5881884/Engineer-shopped-by-mistress-faces-1.5-million-bill-for-defrauding-National-Grid.html PMSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Over on POL the skates seem to be convinced that tomorrow's court date is just a technicality, and that HMRC are getting desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Forename(s) Alastair Hubert Norris Sex Male Decorations kt (2007) Date of Birth 17/12/1950 Foretitle(s) Hon Mr Justice; Sir Surname NORRIS Style The Hon Mr Justice Norris Recreations sailing The Hon Mr Justice Norris's Professional CareerCareer called to the Bar Lincoln's Inn 1973, QC 1997, asst recorder 1998, recorder 2000, specialist circuit judge Chancery Court (Midland Circuit) 2001-07, judge of the High Court of Justice (Chancery Div) 2007-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 We're not unduly worried and expect the administration to proceed." - the Administrator I think the key word is unduly. ie They are worried about it but do not want to admit to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Over on POL the skates seem to be convinced that tomorrow's court date is just a technicality, and that HMRC are getting desperate. I suppose the majority of skates are pretty well acquainted with court hearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Mr Android "Storrie you MUPPET, can't you get ANYTHING right? When i told you to appeal, I meant the POINTS deduction not the Fecking taxman" This is funny. Very funny. they may lose, they may win, they may injunct and stop the process (that could be even funnier as the whole PL will then go into meltdown with the uncertainty). Just when you thought it was safe to get a life again..... HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 i thought this thread was a bit quiet today....and then this, brilliant. never disappoints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Weren't they supposed to be meeting the PL at 10.30 tomorrow to fight the -9? Oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 VFTT, roll back 2 weeks 2 months etc and see how, so many were confident they were toast . They had the close call when the lady gave them a week which turned into 3 weeks and now however long. I have seen them not only survive but been enabled to carry on trading even though it seems they were insolvent. The HMRC owed 18m for only them to put the club into admin with the distinct possibility that the majority of their debts wiped. Chanrai can own the club for no new investment but take on the player assets ,as well as owning the ground. He can see that the debts will all be paid with the parachute monies and the wage bill slashed to manageble levels, even in CCC. As a billionaire he can easily fund a few purchases to take a small gamble to get instant promotion and then again have a PL football club that he can sell on with the new riches of the tv revenues.IMO he is on a no lose situation. If heaven forbid they did get to the FA cup final his investment will become a great profit quickly as those revenue streams would IMO be into the new company. That is of course if he takes them on quickly, and the way it is set-up it looks to me he wil do so. I am happy to come back and say Im wrong and eat humble pie, if he does not buy it and they fold or get massive points penalties. Nickh - everytime you write that, Pompey seem to get hit by yet another disaster. Keep it up! nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Mr Android "Storrie you MUPPET, can't you get ANYTHING right? When i told you to appeal, I meant the POINTS deduction not the Fecking taxman" This is funny. Very funny. they may lose, they may win, they may injunct and stop the process (that could be even funnier as the whole PL will then go into meltdown with the uncertainty). Just when you thought it was safe to get a life again..... HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA i chose the wrong day to have meetings all day tomorrow they could go pop whilst im discussing the merits of outsourcing, and i'll miss all the fun looks like i better book 3 hours of laptop time tomorrow night, a lot of beer, and a nappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 http://www.fansonline.net/pompey-fans/article.php?id=182 Can you credit it, you really couldn't make this up. Even now some are still supporting Storrie Teller. WTF is it you Blue Few (lovely Plumage by the way) don't understand. Peter Storrie was & still is I think the company CEO in other words he runs the buisness side of it, and has fiscal duty to run said company within the laws of the competition & within the laws of the land. If he was being told to run it other than this then it is his responsibility to report it to the authorities for F**k sake wake up please you thick T**ts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Weren't they supposed to be meeting the PL at 10.30 tomorrow to fight the -9? Oh dear! maybe the administrator will go to one, and storrie to the other FAIL ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 http://www.fansonline.net/pompey-fans/article.php?id=182 Can you credit it, you really couldn't make this up. Even now some are still supporting Storrie Teller. WTF is it you Blue Few (lovely Plumage by the way) don't understand. Peter Storrie was & still is I think the company CEO in other words he runs the buisness side of it, and has fiscal duty to run said company within the laws of the competition & within the laws of the land. If he was being told to run it other than this then it is his responsibility to report it to the authorities for F**k sake wake up please you thick T**ts! They are so stupid. Like I've said a million times before, if Storrie was overruled and he thought that the PFC board were doing wrong for 2-3 years, why didn't he say so at the time? Oh yeah, I forgot - £1.4m a year... ...and now he continues to bleat his innocence. ....... and of course, this conflicts with two of him most famed comments 'I'm a good negotiator' and 'the transfers and wages were nothing to do with me' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 My wild guess is that HMRC are going to question the validity of Chanrai placing the club in administration. I have been banging on about this for a while, but the problem I have is that he either owns 90% of the shares in the company or is a creditor. IF he has taken possession of the shares in Portsmouth City Football Club, that suggests that he has satisfied his charge. He is then a shareholder, is holds shares worth f*** all. If he claims he is a secured creditor, then IMO, he had to prove the validity of his charge to the court before placing Pompey into administration. Just saying you're owed money is not enough. We'll see tomorrow, but I wouldn't be suprised that he made a big mistake taking ownership of the shares. I also think that he might have some problems proving the validity of his loan. The paperwork surronding Portpins loan to Al Mirage is bound to raise more questions than it answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Just on Sky now Premier League have delayed their meeting to ratify the -9 point penalty until they've seen what happens at the high court tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsdan Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 i chose the wrong day to have meetings all day tomorrow they could go pop whilst im discussing the merits of outsourcing, and i'll miss all the fun looks like i better book 3 hours of laptop time tomorrow night, a lot of beer, and a nappy There are none. HTH Can spend the day on here now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Keith, any objection if I use that as an avatar for a few days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 (edited) Victor Cattermole out-fialking fialka according to skate spokesman, Phil Hall. LOL. Proof of funds provided on some obscure, banana republic bank letterhead (when subsequently asked, failed to come back with something more authoritative) while cattermole's representative, a 22 year old noob insisted on meeting skate representatives at his dads place on grounds that he didn't have an office. Edited 1 March, 2010 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 My wild guess is that HMRC are going to question the validity of Chanrai placing the club in administration. I have been banging on about this for a while, but the problem I have is that he either owns 90% of the shares in the company or is a creditor. IF he has taken possession of the shares in Portsmouth City Football Club, that suggests that he has satisfied his charge. He is then a shareholder, is holds shares worth f*** all. If he claims he is a secured creditor, then IMO, he had to prove the validity of his charge to the court before placing Pompey into administration. Just saying you're owed money is not enough. We'll see tomorrow, but I wouldn't be suprised that he made a big mistake taking ownership of the shares. I also think that he might have some problems proving the validity of his loan. The paperwork surronding Portpins loan to Al Mirage is bound to raise more questions than it answers. Now after that Charge Date revelation based on research and the email a poster was alleged to have sent to Rupert's best friend Charles Sale to check it out, a new conspiracy theory can emerge.... Charlie sent it onwards and upwards and Agent Sale is welcomed aboard the "next in line for a statue at SMS queue" Woo hoo we can have completely new conspiracy theories now! But in reality, if you were able (as a professional layman) to gather up data like you did, that was not totally clear, then it seems the investigators found something suspicious as well. Oh dear hope that shredder wasn't used too much over the weekend and they kept a bottle of tippex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Every time Nickh claims that they will 'get away with it' - something worse happens! Pompey will get away with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Portsmouth News Reports suggest that HMRC has questioned whether Balram Chainrai had the legal right to put the club into administration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 So are they dead yet??!!:smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 My wild guess is that HMRC are going to question the validity of Chanrai placing the club in administration. I have been banging on about this for a while, but the problem I have is that he either owns 90% of the shares in the company or is a creditor. IF he has taken possession of the shares in Portsmouth City Football Club, that suggests that he has satisfied his charge. He is then a shareholder, is holds shares worth f*** all. If he claims he is a secured creditor, then IMO, he had to prove the validity of his charge to the court before placing Pompey into administration. Just saying you're owed money is not enough. We'll see tomorrow, but I wouldn't be suprised that he made a big mistake taking ownership of the shares. I also think that he might have some problems proving the validity of his loan. The paperwork surronding Portpins loan to Al Mirage is bound to raise more questions than it answers.Good shout GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Pompey will get away with it Keep on keeping on Nick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Victor Cattermole out-fialking fialka according to skate spokesman, Phil Hall. LOL. Proof of funds provided on some obscure, banana republic bank letterhead (when subsequently asked, failed to come back with something more authoritative) while cattermole's representative, a 22 year old noob insisted on meeting skate representatives at his dads place on grounds that he didn't have an office. LOL.... they make LLS look like a better option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Keith, any objection if I use that as an avatar for a few days? go right ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Just when i thought it was safe to leave the office, how the blinkin hell am I gonna concentrate on work tomorrow, Gonna have to keep going back to my desk to F5 this thread or Newsnow to find out whats happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 My wild guess is that HMRC are going to question the validity of Chanrai placing the club in administration. I have been banging on about this for a while, but the problem I have is that he either owns 90% of the shares in the company or is a creditor. IF he has taken possession of the shares in Portsmouth City Football Club, that suggests that he has satisfied his charge. He is then a shareholder, is holds shares worth f*** all. If he claims he is a secured creditor, then IMO, he had to prove the validity of his charge to the court before placing Pompey into administration. Just saying you're owed money is not enough. We'll see tomorrow, but I wouldn't be suprised that he made a big mistake taking ownership of the shares. I also think that he might have some problems proving the validity of his loan. The paperwork surronding Portpins loan to Al Mirage is bound to raise more questions than it answers. I think you're spot on GM, I also queried this at the time. I don't think this is going to be resolved quickly either so reaching 20,000 posts shouldn't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gabriel's Halo Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 http://http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1254678/Portsmouth-set-new-High-Court-hearing-HMRC-challenge-voluntary-administration.html Android boy: "...crossing their i's and dotting their t's......??? Surely shomething wrong there, he's having trouble with English, wonder if he can count to twenty without taking his shoes and socks of...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Now after that Charge Date revelation based on research and the email a poster was alleged to have sent to Rupert's best friend Charles Sale to check it out, a new conspiracy theory can emerge.... Charlie sent it onwards and upwards and Agent Sale is welcomed aboard the "next in line for a statue at SMS queue" Woo hoo we can have completely new conspiracy theories now! But in reality, if you were able (as a professional layman) to gather up data like you did, that was not totally clear, then it seems the investigators found something suspicious as well. Oh dear hope that shredder wasn't used too much over the weekend and they kept a bottle of tippex there's no alleged about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 Now after that Charge Date revelation based on research and the email a poster was alleged to have sent to Rupert's best friend Charles Sale to check it out, a new conspiracy theory can emerge.... Charlie sent it onwards and upwards and Agent Sale is welcomed aboard the "next in line for a statue at SMS queue" Woo hoo we can have completely new conspiracy theories now! But in reality, if you were able (as a professional layman) to gather up data like you did, that was not totally clear, then it seems the investigators found something suspicious as well. Oh dear hope that shredder wasn't used too much over the weekend and they kept a bottle of tippexOn 5live they said that the taxman was fuming especially against Pompey as well as football in general. They dispute Chanrais ownership and so his validity in putting them into administration. They are demanding to see the paperwork. Jacob signed it off didn't he? Is there something about him leaving Fuglers last week, as in they want to have him at arms length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 1 March, 2010 Share Posted 1 March, 2010 basically the hmrc have said 'fvk you portsmouth' lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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