SW5 SAINT Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 I see the former club secretary at Sheffield Wednesday is to be prosecuted over Hillsborough. That, and the recent Grenfell tragedy, is going to hurt the player budgets of skint clubs like Pompey. Explain please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 I keep getting a Disney animated film advert when I'm playing Scrabble on my tablet. It's due for release sometime next month and it involves lots of car crashes: perhaps that's it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 I see the former club secretary at Sheffield Wednesday is to be prosecuted over Hillsborough. That, and the recent Grenfell tragedy, is going to hurt the player budgets of skint clubs like Pompey. Explain please? Guessing he means the cost of implementing health and safety requirements will go up. Though the government has shown every sign of deregulating anything it can, so I'm not sure that's going to be the case. Also, Portsmouth have previous for not maintaining their ground to the appropriate standard for years on end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 29 June, 2017 Share Posted 29 June, 2017 (edited) Apportioning criminal liability to individuals, as opposed to vague corporate liability usually resulting from H&S breaches means that the pendulum will definitely swing towards individuals not taking any chances with respect to safety certification or capacity issues and more money will definitely be required, particularly at decrepit buildings like FP. Budgets will be under pressure. They can't afford Fratton Park, it will ruin them. Deregulation shifts liability, it doesnt make it disappear. Edited 29 June, 2017 by hutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 29 June, 2017 Share Posted 29 June, 2017 Can anyone share a link with the old pfc liquidated replaced by the new incarnation? want to wreck some skate hearts. Thanks in advance! Is it this you are looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 29 June, 2017 Share Posted 29 June, 2017 Is it this you are looking for? Does the 12% battery icon refer to how much life they have left in them? To me that sounds optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 June, 2017 Share Posted 30 June, 2017 Apportioning criminal liability to individuals, as opposed to vague corporate liability usually resulting from H&S breaches means that the pendulum will definitely swing towards individuals not taking any chances with respect to safety certification or capacity issues and more money will definitely be required, particularly at decrepit buildings like FP. Budgets will be under pressure. They can't afford Fratton Park, it will ruin them. Deregulation shifts liability, it doesnt make it disappear. That depends on whether the government is making legislation that removes the need to adhere to certain previous legislation or not - the whole Brexit/Great Repeal Bill thing looks like a useful opportunity to change all kinds of EU-mandated regulations and might just mean "you don't have to do that any more" rather than "it's not a company concern". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 30 June, 2017 Share Posted 30 June, 2017 Eh? The prosecutions are under law that was in existence at the time of the tragedy, nothing to do with Brexit. If you are referring to Grenfell, my view is that Mr. Jobsworth armed with his clipboard, will be much more aware of the potential consequences of turning a blind eye, and now that the authorities have shown willingness to prosecute individuals, the H&S brigade will tighten up their recommendations and requirements. All within the existing rules. I doubt that Brexit will make a blind bit of difference. And if you're referring to deregulation I think a suggestion that Brexit would lead to a dilution of safety provisions at sporting events is pretty creative thinking. Have you ever considered working for an academic think tank? The great repeal bill will simply remove the automatic superiority of the CJEU over our domestic UK courts that was created by the 1975 Act and require that any new European regulations would need to be approved by our parliament to become effective in the UK. I'm struggling to see how that will affect safety regulations at football grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 1 July, 2017 Share Posted 1 July, 2017 Guessing he means the cost of implementing health and safety requirements will go up. Though the government has shown every sign of deregulating anything it can, so I'm not sure that's going to be the case. Also, Portsmouth have previous for not maintaining their ground to the appropriate standard for years on end... Surely as poopey are now about to become owned by a billionaire the cost of repairs/upgrades on their ground is immaterial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 1 July, 2017 Share Posted 1 July, 2017 2 very evenly matched teams kIck of the pre-season. Half time score: Salisbury 0 Pompey 0 (Salisbury's only available striker is 51 years old) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 July, 2017 Share Posted 1 July, 2017 Chaplin wasn't in the squad apparently. They're surely not going to sell their star player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 1 July, 2017 Share Posted 1 July, 2017 They won't sell Connor, skate through and through apparently, posts pictures of himself kissing the skate badge and calls us scummahs No, no, they won't sell him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 July, 2017 Share Posted 1 July, 2017 With the takeover still not complete, I do hope there are no cash flow issues. That really would be a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 July, 2017 Share Posted 1 July, 2017 (edited) Eh? The prosecutions are under law that was in existence at the time of the tragedy, nothing to do with Brexit. If you are referring to Grenfell, my view is that Mr. Jobsworth armed with his clipboard, will be much more aware of the potential consequences of turning a blind eye, and now that the authorities have shown willingness to prosecute individuals, the H&S brigade will tighten up their recommendations and requirements. All within the existing rules. I doubt that Brexit will make a blind bit of difference. And if you're referring to deregulation I think a suggestion that Brexit would lead to a dilution of safety provisions at sporting events is pretty creative thinking. Have you ever considered working for an academic think tank? The great repeal bill will simply remove the automatic superiority of the CJEU over our domestic UK courts that was created by the 1975 Act and require that any new European regulations would need to be approved by our parliament to become effective in the UK. I'm struggling to see how that will affect safety regulations at football grounds. I was referring to the question posed, which was (hinting) about needing to increase spending on health and safety. Whilst the Repeal Bill ports existing EU laws across to UK law, that process still gives the government the opportunity to dump any EU legislation it doesn't want to keep in the slightly longer term - it has to look at anything referencing an EU institution, for instance, and it's not as if they aren't already considering further reduction in safety requirements: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/22/government-backed-red-tape-group-eu-fire-safety-rules-grenfell-fire . So (assuming of course there's an EU institution currently overseeing this) it's perfectly possible that subsequent ground construction regulation changes will reduce the level of safety clubs will have to meet. They're also showing all the signs of doing this to get out of the pan-European corporation tax regulations, which is indicative of a certain degree of pragmatism about things they've decided aren't needed for the greater good. The other impact will be the reduced funding of local authorities meaning they don't have the resource to effectively police safety to begin with... Edited 1 July, 2017 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 July, 2017 Share Posted 1 July, 2017 Surely as poopey are now about to become owned by a billionaire the cost of repairs/upgrades on their ground is immaterial? Well, as they're only selling out in the first place because they can't afford to maintain it, I think the cost of the repairs is a little bit relevant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 July, 2017 Share Posted 2 July, 2017 Chaplin wasn't in the squad apparently. They're surely not going to sell their star player Apparently TCWTB had been banned by the football league for 4 games after some cretinous antics at the Salisbury friendly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 2 July, 2017 Share Posted 2 July, 2017 Apparently TCWTB had been banned by the football league for 4 games after some cretinous antics at the Salisbury friendly.... It wasn't some 'unorthodox' watering of the facilities beyond the goal was it? Ding Dong, Ding Dong, Where's your bell gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 July, 2017 Share Posted 2 July, 2017 It wasn't some 'unorthodox' watering of the facilities beyond the goal was it? Ding Dong, Ding Dong, Where's your bell gone? Don`t know as i was`nt going to watch that s hite and was not given any further details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 2 July, 2017 Share Posted 2 July, 2017 That game against Salisbury - was it a league match or has their FA Cup campaign started already?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 2 July, 2017 Share Posted 2 July, 2017 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/pompey/ex-stoke-keeper-trains-with-pompey-1-8033030 Harry Isted training with them. Surprisingly, the article mentions our 7-0 thrashing of their youth team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 July, 2017 Share Posted 2 July, 2017 to be fair they have sold 13 k season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 2 July, 2017 Share Posted 2 July, 2017 Miaow.. Rallyboy, how we've all missed your beechiness. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 July, 2017 Share Posted 2 July, 2017 Miaow.. Rallyboy, how we've all missed your beechiness. :-) He's a funny old chestnut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 2 July, 2017 Share Posted 2 July, 2017 https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/the-prolific-southampton-man-whod-add-much-needed-confidence-to-portsmouths-attack/ Here's an article that i think is best described as wishful thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 July, 2017 Share Posted 4 July, 2017 Have they been taken over yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 5 July, 2017 Share Posted 5 July, 2017 to be fair they have sold 13 k season tickets. Cant deny that is a decent performance for league 1 but recollect that Bradford City consistently sold around 18,000 due to competitive pricing. Wonder how many we would sell if Pompey prices were offered up to our season ticket holders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 5 July, 2017 Share Posted 5 July, 2017 to be fair they have sold 13 k season tickets. now 14K:smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2017 Share Posted 5 July, 2017 now 14K:smug: Thats was a couple of hours ago. Must be 17 or 18k by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 5 July, 2017 Share Posted 5 July, 2017 Well well well. The 100 or so fans who bought lifetime season tickets when they were in the **** the most recent time (forget which number we're up to these days) have had said season tickets cancelled by Mickey Mouse. Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 July, 2017 Share Posted 5 July, 2017 I think if I was born, bred and lived in Portsmouth I'd be one of the masses buying a season ticket at the local football club in order to give me temporary respite from my otherwise drab existence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 July, 2017 Share Posted 5 July, 2017 now 14K:smug: Glory hunters [emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 5 July, 2017 Share Posted 5 July, 2017 https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/the-prolific-southampton-man-whod-add-much-needed-confidence-to-portsmouths-attack/ Here's an article that i think is best described as wishful thinking! That is one of the weirdest things I've ever read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 5 July, 2017 Share Posted 5 July, 2017 Well well well. The 100 or so fans who bought lifetime season tickets when they were in the **** the most recent time (forget which number we're up to these days) have had said season tickets cancelled by Mickey Mouse. Oops When did Mickey enter the club house? Or is it the last act of the community club so Mickey isn't tarnished and too late to reinstate them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 One fan on twitter saying how good it is that the media aren't leaking any of their new signings. I'm sure SSN will have made it non-stop breaking news though for England's biggest and bestest most historic football club in the entire world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 Well well well. The 100 or so fans who bought lifetime season tickets when they were in the **** the most recent time (forget which number we're up to these days) have had said season tickets cancelled by Mickey Mouse. Oops :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 Well well well. The 100 or so fans who bought lifetime season tickets when they were in the **** the most recent time (forget which number we're up to these days) have had said season tickets cancelled by Mickey Mouse. Oops Would be interesting to understand the legalities of that to be honest. If something is purchased as a 'lifetime subscription' then that is exactly what it should be and how it should be honored. I wonder if anyone will challenge it. Let's be honest, you wouldn't take my fiver and then kick me off after 6 months now, would you...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 Well well well. The 100 or so fans who bought lifetime season tickets when they were in the **** the most recent time (forget which number we're up to these days) have had said season tickets cancelled by Mickey Mouse. Oops They're insisting it's by the current board and nothing to do with the potential new owner. Of course. I mean, it would be totally in the interests of the outgoing board to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 Well well well. The 100 or so fans who bought lifetime season tickets when they were in the **** the most recent time (forget which number we're up to these days) have had said season tickets cancelled by Mickey Mouse. Oops Not yet. They have been asked to relinquish them and invited to attend a meeting about it. So it hasn't happened yet. I know someone that has one, although having moved away doesn't often use it himself. His view was that he had the cash so bought it and in the end "got lucky", very lucky, as they had a number of seasons in the top flight which would have cost miles more than the amount he forked out. I'll ask him for his thoughts on being asked to give it up. I suspect to my face he will shrug his shoulders and say he has had a good run. I agree, Eisner must be behind this, not the current board. I wonder perhaps if Walter is testing Catlin to see if he can/is willing to do some dirty work before deciding if he will keep him at the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 SRL has had his contract cancelled by Cardiff and is being linked with Plymouth so could well line up against the Skates next season. Having him score a few against them would bring joy to this old man's heart :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 Let's be honest, you wouldn't take my fiver and then kick me off after 6 months now, would you...???? Would be nice if he checked his bank account occasionally and gave me access for my fiver. Perhaps he has now, lets press send on this post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 Hurrah! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 Is it this you are looking for? Thanks to those that replied - This is what I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 Would be nice if he checked his bank account occasionally and gave me access for my fiver. Perhaps he has now, lets press send on this post... Nope. Still not seeing you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 July, 2017 Share Posted 6 July, 2017 Did sue post something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 July, 2017 Share Posted 7 July, 2017 Would be interesting to understand the legalities of that to be honest. If something is purchased as a 'lifetime subscription' then that is exactly what it should be and how it should be honored. I wonder if anyone will challenge it. Let's be honest, you wouldn't take my fiver and then kick me off after 6 months now, would you...???? On a similar note, my freeserve "lifetime" email account finally got canned at the start of June after freeserve were bought out by wanadoo in the early 2000s, then Orange, mid 2000s, then EE circa 2010. Apparently 19 years now counts as a lifetime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 July, 2017 Share Posted 8 July, 2017 Did sue post something? I miss her so much. Anyone know what she is doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 8 July, 2017 Share Posted 8 July, 2017 This thread has gone awfully quite with regards to the fishies. Have they been taken over? Are they enjoying the trappings of all that Micky Mouse Money? Or are they trapped in due-diligence hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 8 July, 2017 Share Posted 8 July, 2017 STEEEEVVVEEEE, I paid on the 29th June. I need more than 3 posts a day so I can respond to sarky bruggers like whelk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 8 July, 2017 Share Posted 8 July, 2017 :-) 2 of 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 8 July, 2017 Share Posted 8 July, 2017 This thread has gone awfully quite with regards to the fishies. Have they been taken over? Are they enjoying the trappings of all that Micky Mouse Money? Or are they trapped in due-diligence hell? No no yep is my guess but who knows with that lot down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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