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The club that refused to pay their bills and were still backed up by a possibly corrupt regime?

 

I'll leave readers to second guess which, of the few possible, regimes are in my mind.

 

Yeah, kinda factual ESB, but sadly not very snappy. ;)

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Apparently a Russian saviour is on the horizon. Source: my mate at the Assoc. Newspapers group (he is ex-Evening Std and "scooped" me on the Rasiak, Bale and other deals involving London based sports news)

 

Why now? Investment would only secure the survival of the club and the £60m debt but not their PL status. If true, he's either likes playing russian roulette with his money or is playing Brewster's millions.

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Apparently a Russian saviour is on the horizon. Source: my mate at the Assoc. Newspapers group (he is ex-Evening Std and "scooped" me on the Rasiak, Bale and other deals involving London based sports news)

 

Not Alexander Lebedev... he might actually have enough cash to lose a few hundred mill without it bothering him ???

 

Please no... I just couldn't handle it if they struck that lucky just before hammering us in the cup.

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Not Alexander Lebedev... he might actually have enough cash to lose a few hundred mill without it bothering him ???

 

Please no... I just couldn't handle it if they struck that lucky just before hammering us in the cup.

 

You just know it's going to happen. They MUST be clinging on for something. I reckon they are trying to find ways round the FPP test for another oligarch to set up a new laundry to replace Gaydamak's. But given the PL's 'rigorous' approach I reckon Osama himself cold be named as new chairman & they'd say there is no footballing reason why he couldn't be in charge. (As a semi-sentient skate posted on their forum a while back - FPP is a joke, after all they passed Al-Mirage & he doesn't even exist!)

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Not Alexander Lebedev... he might actually have enough cash to lose a few hundred mill without it bothering him ???

 

Please no... I just couldn't handle it if they struck that lucky just before hammering us in the cup.

 

That's an interesting thought, and not the conclusion I jumped to from the message he sent me.

 

"New Pompey rumour up here is that a Russian with London connections will invest and save them before the HMRC court date"

 

I assumed he meant some dodgy deal with one of Roman's chums/minions; I didnt think outside of the football world.

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You just know it's going to happen. They MUST be clinging on for something. I reckon they are trying to find ways round the FPP test for another oligarch to set up a new laundry to replace Gaydamak's. But given the PL's 'rigorous' approach I reckon Osama himself cold be named as new chairman & they'd say there is no footballing reason why he couldn't be in charge. (As a semi-sentient skate posted on their forum a while back - FPP is a joke, after all they passed Al-Mirage & he doesn't even exist!)

 

On the other hand, how many 'saviours' for both Saints and now Pompey either failed to materialise or suddenly realised they had no funds?

Let's also bear in mind it wouldn't hurt Pompey to 'encourage' rumours of big money investors shortly before their WUO comes to court. After all, they've spouted nothing but lies and double bluffs throughout this whole sorry saga.

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That's an interesting thought, and not the conclusion I jumped to from the message he sent me.

 

"New Pompey rumour up here is that a Russian with London connections will invest and save them before the HMRC court date"

 

I assumed he meant some dodgy deal with one of Roman's chums/minions; I didnt think outside of the football world.

I myself cant see why these people buy into Pompey. I think the PL is quickly losing its shine.

I doubt that many of our top 4 clubs players would get into Barcelona or Real Madrids side, whilst in reverse most would. Add the fact that there are now so many small town clubs up there that its appeal must be eroded somewhat.

If Pompey stay up then they are buying a PL club in the league only , nothing else. Why they dont buy their sister club in Wigan who are safer I really cant understand

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Not Alexander Lebedev... he might actually have enough cash to lose a few hundred mill without it bothering him ???

 

Please no... I just couldn't handle it if they struck that lucky just before hammering us in the cup.

 

 

It's a possibility, but I would guess unlikely. He's just sold his stake in Aeroflot for 200-300 million but he's said to be investing that in Russia. Struck up some sort of arrangement with the government to invest in social schemes.

 

All rumours though until someone buys the club. Look how many wealthy people we were linked with in our hour of need!

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Why the hell did the PL lift the transfer embargo whilst PFC couldn't afford to pay their players? It is unfair to the other clubs around the PL relegation spots as it gives an insolvent club an unfair advantage.

 

As for the PL's F&PP test, don't make me laugh - Robert Mugabe would easily pass it.

 

Apart from the skates, who's the next club likely to go into admin?

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Why the hell did the PL lift the transfer embargo whilst PFC couldn't afford to pay their players? It is unfair to the other clubs around the PL relegation spots as it gives an insolvent club an unfair advantage.

 

As for the PL's F&PP test, don't make me laugh - Robert Mugabe would easily pass it.

 

Apart from the skates, who's the next club likely to go into admin?

 

Theoretically could be Liverpool or Man Ure

Possibly Hull (but you did mention the word "big"

Wigan aren't that solid these days nor Bolton, and the money men at Sunderland haven't seen much return so far for all they have pumped in.

 

Football is a mess, it's been commented on and written about for a long time now.

 

The only reason I would be happy to see the skates disappear was IF it meant that the whole damned mess was cleaned up and they start again using some of Platini's ideas. They have to be the last time that such a wholesale disasterous joke can be allowed to happen.

 

But of course it won't get cleaned up. Would be like Turkeys voting for Christmas

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Why the hell did the PL lift the transfer embargo whilst PFC couldn't afford to pay their players? It is unfair to the other clubs around the PL relegation spots as it gives an insolvent club an unfair advantage.

 

As for the PL's F&PP test, don't make me laugh - Robert Mugabe would easily pass it.

 

Apart from the skates, who's the next club likely to go into admin?

 

Hull aren't exactly well off at the moment.

 

The board want the wage bill trimmed quite a bit I think

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you just know that they will get out of it. They have been tetering too long and not going under.

Russian mafia no doubt looking to use the same old path.

Another slice of luck for them was that they were one a the very few clubs who actually sold players, amazing considering how few fees were done during the window.

 

Nick, I can tell, you are as nervous of PFC scraping out of this as I am of Saints letting in a last minute goal.

 

Unfortunately the latter does happen but I can't see our fishy friends swimming their way out of this net.

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Nick, I can tell, you are as nervous of PFC scraping out of this as I am of Saints letting in a last minute goal.

 

Unfortunately the latter does happen but I can't see our fishy friends swimming their way out of this net.

FF ,I really am torn. The utmost thing is that I think justice needs to be seen to be done.

Football is fast becoming a disgrace and Iam starting to feel embarrassed being a football fan again.

We have our so called Premier sporting league disregarding the small businesses who are being screwed so that they can look a good brand.

I like many others have had to sit through and watch Pompey overspend and buy honours that were totally unjustified. If it is so easy to have a squad of all stars on 15-20k gates then all the clubs could do it. The league has stood by and watched and they are as guilty of watching over it as many at PFC.

Sadly the Pl is fast becoming the cess pit of owners who want a football club as a status symbol and dont have the love of the game like most fans on here and even the ones down the road. I dont blame them for enjoying their time in the sun but i do object to their whining now it is falling apart. (that is not aimed at PES or Merovingian etc )

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I probably fall into the camp of strongly disliking Portsmouth but ultimately would like the natural order restored with then returning to gates of 6000 and bottom half of the Chamionship. I like the rivalry and hope they do retain their league status. I began following Saints in 1978 but was too small really and probably circa late 80's 90's Saints fan.

 

I really notice on here that the generation below me, the late 60's 70's early 80's Saints fans however seem to have a real venom about Pompey going to the wall. The hatred steps up a gear. They must have been interesting days.

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That's an interesting thought, and not the conclusion I jumped to from the message he sent me.

 

"New Pompey rumour up here is that a Russian with London connections will invest and save them before the HMRC court date"

 

I assumed he meant some dodgy deal with one of Roman's chums/minions; I didnt think outside of the football world.

 

If a new investor were going to emerge, they would have done so before the window slammed shut. Why would they buy a club that is likely to be relegated, which they can't strengthen?

 

The closing of the window rules out both the 'Benevolent Sugar Daddy' and the 'Investor wanting a return'. The club simply isn't an investment, and can't be strengthened again until the summer.

 

So that leaves only the 'Fan with money' (why have they left it so long? Why not snap the club up back in the summer?). This means that any new owner would have to be either a 'Status hungry nutter', or a ‘Crooked money launderer'... IMO if they do get a new owner, it can only spell business (sic) as usual...

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SSN...Poopy to bring in 'frees' to bolster the playing squad. Avram not being paid is due to his 'Tax code'. Players will be paid today (or tomorrow). Club say they're not in danger of being wound up.

 

Cripes, that was like when I had to read fairy tales to my kids, and the media just lap up these 'tales'.

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SSN...Poopy to bring in 'frees' to bolster the playing squad. Avram not being paid is due to his 'Tax code'. Players will be paid today (or tomorrow). Club say they're not in danger of being wound up.

 

Cripes, that was like when I had to read fairy tales to my kids, and the media just lap up these 'tales'.

 

Total BULL.

 

In a worst case HMRC will put you on an emergency tax code (which is HIGH) and you can claim back the difference later.

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FF ,I really am torn. The utmost thing is that I think justice needs to be seen to be done.

Football is fast becoming a disgrace and Iam starting to feel embarrassed being a football fan again.

We have our so called Premier sporting league disregarding the small businesses who are being screwed so that they can look a good brand.

I like many others have had to sit through and watch Pompey overspend and buy honours that were totally unjustified. If it is so easy to have a squad of all stars on 15-20k gates then all the clubs could do it. The league has stood by and watched and they are as guilty of watching over it as many at PFC.

Sadly the Pl is fast becoming the cess pit of owners who want a football club as a status symbol and dont have the love of the game like most fans on here and even the ones down the road. I dont blame them for enjoying their time in the sun but i do object to their whining now it is falling apart. (that is not aimed at PES or Merovingian etc )

 

TBF Nick, I appreciate your not having a go at me or Mero etc, etc.. but I personally have not encountered much whinging. Anger, yes but certainly not with a 'Poor us' slant to it. I don't believe Pompey fans (In general) have behaved any differently to any other football fans. Celebrating the Highs and (in the most impotent manner) being angry with the lows. I really dont see any distinction between Pompey fans, Saints fans or any other club for that matter (in regard to their reactions to adversity). Anyway a fan delegation has now set up a meeting with the Premier League so that could be interesting. Football has become a bit ****, Pompey is a product of that ****tyness, but then football is a product of a society which to my mind is incredibly superficial, fails to acknowledge it's responsibilities and is, on the whole, a bit plop. So is it all that surprising really? :(

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SSN...Poopy to bring in 'frees' to bolster the playing squad. Avram not being paid is due to his 'Tax code'. Players will be paid today (or tomorrow). Club say they're not in danger of being wound up.

 

Cripes, that was like when I had to read fairy tales to my kids, and the media just lap up these 'tales'.

 

If they are able to pay there is no reason why it shouldn't be today.

 

Only if they are able to pay HMRC in full before the 10th. Err... which they can't.

 

More lies and bulls**t

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SSN...Poopy to bring in 'frees' to bolster the playing squad. Avram not being paid is due to his 'Tax code'. Players will be paid today (or tomorrow). Club say they're not in danger of being wound up.

 

Cripes, that was like when I had to read fairy tales to my kids, and the media just lap up these 'tales'.

They've clearly not heard of emergency tax codes then :rolleyes:

 

That said, given Peter Storrie's apparent ignorance of all things tax-related, that doesn't necessarily surprise me...

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Sadly the Pl is fast becoming the cess pit of owners who want a football club as a status symbol and dont have the love of the game like most fans

 

 

But is PCFC starting to rub the shine off that status?, thats reflected in the low transfer rates during this window which shows a lack of confidence by the backers and investors.

 

Why associate yourself with a failing brand? PCFC are tarnishing the Premier League and also any company with a PO postcode that may of had dealings with them . Any company that maybe owed money by them may find that people start to ask questions as to their trading postition? will we get paid by them if we supply goods? therefore PCFC tarnishes the name of Portsmouth to a far greater extent than that of football. Ordinary people then get caught up in the mess through no fault of their own with businesses going bust all in the name of an FA Cup win.

 

Indeed if the bubble is about to burst then the money men will be looking elsewhere and clubs need to look inwards and be run within their own income stream. Saints need to make sure that we're run as a self financing company and for that to happen we need to maintain the gates and sales of merchandise, deleting the brand name on the shirts next season means plenty of sales to keep the money rolling.

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Possibly, their new investment, was the rumour that Poopey city council was going to lend the club money. On SSN, a representitive of PCC, has said, that there would be no loan as ( and get this lol), they have nothing to secure the loan against.

 

 

I have to laugh!!!

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I knew some rich idiot would buy them, they are like a bad smell that will not go away. I really hate pompey!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It is not going to happen. Why would you spend £60 or million when in short order you could buy it for nothing as Pompey have no assets that are now saleable.

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Why the hell did the PL lift the transfer embargo whilst PFC couldn't afford to pay their players? It is unfair to the other clubs around the PL relegation spots as it gives an insolvent club an unfair advantage.

 

As for the PL's F&PP test, don't make me laugh - Robert Mugabe would easily pass it.

 

Apart from the skates, who's the next club likely to go into admin?

 

Because it gave PFC the chance to trade players and raise some cash so that they might be able to fulfil their fixtures?

 

If the Premier League thinks it has a problem with Pompey at the moment, then PFC not being able to fulfil its fixtures gives the Premier League a problem on an entirely different scale.

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Hreidarsson wants answers: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11674_5911494,00.html

 

And Pompey possibly 8 days from adminstration: http://www.tribalfootball.com/portsmouth-eight-days-away-administration-616441

 

Apologies if this has already been posted, only been able to skim through the thread today...

 

Their "spokesman" (whoever that might be) has denied that this is the case!! :rolleyes:

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