TwoPints Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Time to get voting everyone - of course they were right to keep Andy Awful... http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/fans-poll-were-pompey-right-to-keep-faith-with-andy-awford-1-6544680 Done ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Seems strange that the biggest and bestest definitely-fan-owned club wouldn't be considered for this. Perhaps the email was rejected as spam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 no need for a friendly, they could be playing each other for real next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 no need for a friendly, they could be playing each other for real next season. FC United will soon have a better stadium than the few too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 League 2 fixtures tonight: Accrington v Bury Cambridge v Dagenham A win for Bury (to put Pompey 15 points below the playoffs) and a win or draw for Dagenham (to put Pompey 2 points above relegation), please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Fire up the Villain/Herometer, our next contestant is Mr Gambly McInnes from Oddbins... A heavy defeat at Wycombe will see him drop off the edge of Villain but a draw there and a home win will make him the Hero of the month! He is currently walking a fine line, just as he did when invited to at the roadside by Hampshire Police. He got away with that one, can he get away with this vote of confidence?..... Tune in on Saturday for the next exciting episode of Deluded ****s who are Easily-led. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Just to clarify the swear filter, I wasn't calling them a bunch of ****s, just ****s. I hope that clears up any misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Keeping Awful has given me a dilemma. If Awful does shiete and loses a few they'll bin him and may end up getting a decent replacement in. If they win a few he'll stay , and they won't go down. Based on the fact Hartlepools are shocking , I can't see them being worse than every other team, I think the best result could be a few wins. The deluded Few will then keep Awful , who is basically a poor manager , and we'll be at the same place this time next year. Like it or not, if they get a decent manager they are perfectly capable of promotion next year, with Awful they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 The Few's fan's favourite Ricky Holmes has signed for Northampton on a free transfer and they're loving it in the land of the Cobblers... Best hope that this 'squad realignment' pays off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper71 Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Keeping Awful has given me a dilemma. If Awful does shiete and loses a few they'll bin him and may end up getting a decent replacement in. If they win a few he'll stay , and they won't go down. Based on the fact Hartlepools are shocking , I can't see them being worse than every other team, I think the best result could be a few wins. The deluded Few will then keep Awful , who is basically a poor manager , and we'll be at the same place this time next year. Like it or not, if they get a decent manager they are perfectly capable of promotion next year, with Awful they won't. Is this not basically the same (with different managers' names) that was said last year, and the year before that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Is this not basically the same (with different managers' names) that was said last year, and the year before that? It's like deja vu all over again. The most local club has found its true vocation as a bottom tier permanent resident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 They do seem to have the remarkable knack of employing shirte managers , who get a few good results at the end of the season and manage to screw up the whole following year . The thing at that level is a decent manager makes a hell of a lot of difference . It's only when you get to the championship that money and being well run becomes a bigger factor . My concern is they'll get somebody in that can harness that number of supporters and get them up despite the clowns running the show. Awful isn't that man, so the longer he's in the job the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Is this not basically the same (with different managers' names) that was said last year, and the year before that? Exactly. I think that the chances of them getting a decent manager who can turn things around is slim: if PFC was an attractive prospect for a half-decent manager, they'd have got one when they sacked Barker. Or when they sacked Whittingham. Or Appleton. Or Cotterill. Or Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Exactly. I think that the chances of them getting a decent manager who can turn things around is slim: if PFC was an attractive prospect for a half-decent manager, they'd have got one when they sacked Barker. Or when they sacked Whittingham. Or Appleton. Or Cotterill. Or Grant. They will get a half decent one eventually. It doesn't take much to win promotion from that league and they have a big financial advantage over everyone else which will eventually tell. The longer they stay down though the funnier it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 I suppose they will have to put up with Messi as Riqueleme has retired now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Only 2pts from relegation after Dagenham point tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 League 2 fixtures tonight: Accrington v Bury Cambridge v Dagenham A win for Bury (to put Pompey 15 points below the playoffs) and a win or draw for Dagenham (to put Pompey 2 points above relegation), please You got your wish Trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 (edited) Only 2pts from relegation after Dagenham point tonight Sadly, still 3. Edit. Blo ody BBC have just altered it. Sorry!! Edited 27 January, 2015 by Lets B Avenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 (edited) You got your wish Trousers Sweet Relegation zone on Saturday evening then.... Edited 27 January, 2015 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Have they not got Hartlepool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Have they not got Hartlepool? That's next week. Away to top of the table Wycombe this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 That's next week. Away to top of the table Wycombe this weekend. Ha ha ha. Going up to watch them at the Abbey in a few weeks. In the Cambridge end, In my saints top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 Exactly. I think that the chances of them getting a decent manager who can turn things around is slim: if PFC was an attractive prospect for a half-decent manager, they'd have got one when they sacked Barker. Or when they sacked Whittingham. Or Appleton. Or Cotterill. Or Grant. There must be something in the water down there as even Clotterill is managing to do a decent job at Bristol City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 TBF, they have a defeat in hand over the two teams above them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 27 January, 2015 Share Posted 27 January, 2015 They got the fertiliser and round-up mixed up? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 Pompey were wrong to keep Andy Awford as manager. That is the narrow majority view of The News readers following today’s online poll. On our website portsmouth.co.uk, this morning we asked the question: Were Pompey right to keep Andy Awford as manager? With the vote ending at 9pm tonight, a total of 686 votes had been cast with 337 (49%) in favour of the board’s decision to support Awford and 349 (51%) calling for change. Way to go, Andy. It must be a humungous comfort to you to know that some of the bestest are right behind you. Not very many, mind you. But as we have all learned over the years, Quality over Quantity is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 49% supporting it - isn't that unanimous?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 How many nutjobs voted in favour of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 Its 49% of 49% though, so I make that paid off. In full. And ahead of schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 How many nutjobs voted in favour of him? 336 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 More sick-making Allenesque drivel: "Divisions continue to grow between the factions. It’s close to becoming a Pompey-style civil war – and we’ve got history for a rumble down these parts." http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/comment-awford-decision-won-t-satisfy-all-1-6545878 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 49% is higher than 51% surely. Thats what we keep getting told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 Has anyone got the list of average attendances? Need to put some skate in his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintlystu Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 Here You Go (up to end of 12/13 season) Year Saints Pompey Difference 2013 30874 12232 18642 2012 26420 15016 11404 2011 22161 15707 6454 2010 20982 18249 2733 2009 17849 19830 -1981 2008 21254 19914 1340 2007 23556 19862 3694 2006 23614 19840 3774 2005 30610 20072 10538 2004 31699 20108 11591 2003 30680 18906 11774 2002 30633 15122 15511 2001 15115 13533 1582 2000 15132 13908 1224 1999 15140 11973 3167 1998 15159 11149 4010 1997 15099 8857 6242 1996 14820 9406 5414 1995 14685 8269 6416 1994 14751 11692 3059 1993 15382 13706 1676 1992 14070 11789 2281 1991 15413 9689 5724 1990 16463 8959 7504 1989 15590 10201 5389 1988 14544 15923 -1379 1987 14950 13404 1546 1986 14877 13614 1263 1985 18046 15185 2861 1984 18089 13196 4893 1983 18799 14095 4704 1982 21835 8544 13291 1981 21482 13514 7968 1980 21335 15850 5485 1979 21330 10123 11207 1978 21167 9678 11489 1977 19480 11564 7916 1976 17648 10472 7176 1975 15910 12474 3436 1974 21128 13675 7453 1973 18118 9477 8641 1972 21191 11918 9273 1971 22267 13759 8508 1970 22901 14928 7973 1969 22492 19163 3329 1968 24665 22988 1677 1967 25527 14831 10696 1966 18919 14644 4275 1965 17123 13058 4065 1964 17217 14681 2536 1963 15267 16043 -776 1962 13763 16782 -3019 1961 18665 15028 3637 1960 18052 16156 1896 1959 21540 24016 -2476 1958 14851 28499 -13648 1957 14784 25024 -10240 1956 11612 26260 -14648 1955 14724 29868 -15144 1954 14885 28993 -14108 1953 16159 31578 -15419 1952 19038 32523 -13485 1951 21816 32794 -10978 1950 23894 37004 -13110 1949 25384 37082 -11698 1948 20789 31226 -10437 1947 16597 30198 -13601 1939 14596 23630 -9034 1938 16583 22827 -6244 1937 13025 19692 -6667 1936 10705 19358 -8653 1935 9088 17995 -8907 1934 9979 18243 -8264 1933 9064 18102 -9038 1932 10880 17478 -6598 1931 12150 18779 -6629 1930 12073 18495 -6422 1929 14875 20225 -5350 1928 10177 22752 -12575 1927 9837 16792 -6955 1926 9965 14457 -4492 1925 9635 16685 -7050 1924 10420 12770 -2350 1923 12645 12195 450 1922 11385 14060 -2675 1921 12585 15445 -2860 Average 17671 17416 254 Ave last 25y 20286 14320 5966 Ave Last 50y 19964 13975 5989 Ave Prev 36y 14486 22196 -7710 Sorry about the format its from a spreadsheet. If anyone can tell me how to paste it in as it appears on the sheet I will happily do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 More sick-making Allenesque drivel: "Divisions continue to grow between the factions. It’s close to becoming a Pompey-style civil war – and we’ve got history for a rumble down these parts." http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/comment-awford-decision-won-t-satisfy-all-1-6545878 He does like to stir it up, doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 He does like to stir it up, doesn't he? More sick-making Allenesque drivel: "Divisions continue to grow between the factions. It’s close to becoming a Pompey-style civil war – and we’ve got history for a rumble down these parts." http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/comment-awford-decision-won-t-satisfy-all-1-6545878 Who commented as Mr Chips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 Use the -tag... [code]Year Saints Pompey Difference 2013 30874 12232 18642 2012 26420 15016 11404 2011 22161 15707 6454 2010 20982 18249 2733 2009 17849 19830 -1981 2008 21254 19914 1340 2007 23556 19862 3694 2006 23614 19840 3774 2005 30610 20072 10538 2004 31699 20108 11591 2003 30680 18906 11774 2002 30633 15122 15511 2001 15115 13533 1582 2000 15132 13908 1224 1999 15140 11973 3167 1998 15159 11149 4010 1997 15099 8857 6242 1996 14820 9406 5414 1995 14685 8269 6416 1994 14751 11692 3059 1993 15382 13706 1676 1992 14070 11789 2281 1991 15413 9689 5724 1990 16463 8959 7504 1989 15590 10201 5389 1988 14544 15923 -1379 1987 14950 13404 1546 1986 14877 13614 1263 1985 18046 15185 2861 1984 18089 13196 4893 1983 18799 14095 4704 1982 21835 8544 13291 1981 21482 13514 7968 1980 21335 15850 5485 1979 21330 10123 11207 1978 21167 9678 11489 1977 19480 11564 7916 1976 17648 10472 7176 1975 15910 12474 3436 1974 21128 13675 7453 1973 18118 9477 8641 1972 21191 11918 9273 1971 22267 13759 8508 1970 22901 14928 7973 1969 22492 19163 3329 1968 24665 22988 1677 1967 25527 14831 10696 1966 18919 14644 4275 1965 17123 13058 4065 1964 17217 14681 2536 1963 15267 16043 -776 1962 13763 16782 -3019 1961 18665 15028 3637 1960 18052 16156 1896 1959 21540 24016 -2476 1958 14851 28499 -13648 1957 14784 25024 -10240 1956 11612 26260 -14648 1955 14724 29868 -15144 1954 14885 28993 -14108 1953 16159 31578 -15419 1952 19038 32523 -13485 1951 21816 32794 -10978 1950 23894 37004 -13110 1949 25384 37082 -11698 1948 20789 31226 -10437 1947 16597 30198 -13601 1939 14596 23630 -9034 1938 16583 22827 -6244 1937 13025 19692 -6667 1936 10705 19358 -8653 1935 9088 17995 -8907 1934 9979 18243 -8264 1933 9064 18102 -9038 1932 10880 17478 -6598 1931 12150 18779 -6629 1930 12073 18495 -6422 1929 14875 20225 -5350 1928 10177 22752 -12575 1927 9837 16792 -6955 1926 9965 14457 -4492 1925 9635 16685 -7050 1924 10420 12770 -2350 1923 12645 12195 450 1922 11385 14060 -2675 1921 12585 15445 -2860 Avr 17671 17416 254 Avr 25y 20286 14320 5966 Avr 50y 19964 13975 5989 Avr 36y 14486 22196 -7710 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 (edited) Missed this from last week so apologies if already posted....contains a few chortles and facepalms.... http://thegreensoccerjournal.com/decider-article/back-in-black/ For the event a special image had been commissioned, with the name and home ground of every club melded into one of those now-ubiquitous word shapes – this one the outline of the UK. But there was one significant omission. You see, St Mary’s and Southampton butted up against The AmEx and Brighton, in the space where Pompey should have been; there was no mention of ‘Portsmouth’ or ‘Fratton Park’. The first winners of the FA Cup – and only league champions (1949 and 1950, look it up) – from south of London had been wiped, literally, off the football map. This story came back to me in September last year, when Clarke’s name popped up on a press briefing as the official photographer for Sport England’s ‘City of Football’ project. For one of the cities in the running – along with Manchester and Nottingham – was Portsmouth. Yes. You read correctly. Portsmouth. And although we missed out on the ultimate accolade – not to mention the £1.6 million of funding that came with it – which eventually went to Nottingham, that Portsmouth was even on the podium signalled a quite remarkable transformation in the club’s reputation. To be fair, Portsmouth has always commanded respect in football’s community circles. Pompey in the Community, the now-independent charity that runs projects for various youth and adult groups in the city, picked up the Family Club of the Year award during our spell in the Championship, as well as the South West Community Club of the Year gong at the 2012 Football League Awards. Well-deserved though these accolades were, they were powerless to prevent a handful of snide remarks – as the second period of administration got underway – about local small businesses and charities that had been diddled out of their cash. With the backing of Supporters’ Direct, a community shares plan was hatched. By the summer of 2012, more than 1500 fans had pledged almost £2 million to the cause. Oh, and in just 62 days during the close season a crowd funding campaign raised £250,000 for a couple of new pitches for the club’s academy – at a training ground built on the back of a further £750,000 raised in equity. Those who scoffed, at the time, that fans ‘could never run a club’ and that the Pompey project would collapse in a little more than a few months are now left eating their words. At the end of September 2014, however, Pompey announced it was finally debt-free; a final tranche of around £8m of legacy debts to former players had been cleared 18 months ahead of schedule. About time someone informed Companies House about that last quote....it's still showing 3 PFA charges against the club despite the "debts being cleared" 5 months ago... Edited 28 January, 2015 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31023136 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31023136 No mention of stores still to be built that might be mothballed. Construction has stopped on one of their local stores in a nearby village to me. Has construction started on the flagship store in desirable Fratton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 (edited) No mention of stores still to be built that might be mothballed. Construction has stopped on one of their local stores in a nearby village to me. Has construction started on the flagship store in desirable Fratton? They're just applying the finishing touches.... Edited 28 January, 2015 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 They're just applying the finishing touches.... It would look better if they were using Leibherr machinery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 Anyone know why Point Estates (the company that owns the 'Tesco' land) had 4 charges registered against it on 31st December 2014 (according to Companies House)? Perhaps I should cough up £4 to find out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 Anyone know why Point Estates (the company that owns the 'Tesco' land) had 4 charges registered against it on 31st December 2014 (according to Companies House)? Perhaps I should cough up £4 to find out... That would be dedicated nutjobbery right there Sir Trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 No mention of stores still to be built that might be mothballed. Construction has stopped on one of their local stores in a nearby village to me. Has construction started on the flagship store in desirable Fratton? But Tesco aren't building the store, Robinson is building the store and leasing it to Tesco, Tesco's current store closures wouldn't stop Robinson building it as he feels that he can lease it to another supermarket.....or that is what I have gleaned from what I have read.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 But Tesco aren't building the store, Robinson is building the store and leasing it to Tesco, Tesco's current store closures wouldn't stop Robinson building it as he feels that he can lease it to another supermarket.....or that is what I have gleaned from what I have read.. I guess that depends on the wording of the planning permission approval. Did the council give specific approval for a building that would become a Tesco store or would it have been more generic than that? The latter probably sounds more likely I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 I guess that depends on the wording of the planning permission approval. Did the council give specific approval for a building that would become a Tesco store or would it have been more generic than that? The latter probably sounds more likely I suppose. Ah, here's the answer.... http://democracy.portsmouth.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=2529 14/00128/FUL - Land Adjacent Fratton Park, Fratton Way, Southsea Construction of a retail store (use class A1) of up to 10,475sqm gea, petrol filling station (sui generis) with an associated kiosk up to 86sqm gea, canopy and jet wash, new access/ egress arrangements, car parking including replacement stadium car parking, service yard, highway and footpath works, landscaping, and other associated works (after demolition of existing structures) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 But Tesco aren't building the store, Robinson is building the store and leasing it to Tesco, Tesco's current store closures wouldn't stop Robinson building it as he feels that he can lease it to another supermarket.....or that is what I have gleaned from what I have read.. Will he find another tenant? Tesco aren't building more stores. Morrisons have been getting cold feet and I'm sure I've read that Sainsburys won't either. Can you see Waitrose building at Fratton?? Although having said that, Lidl seem to be expanding. Lidl Fratton Park has a better ring to it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 January, 2015 Share Posted 28 January, 2015 It would look better if they were using Leibherr machinery...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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