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St Chalet

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Just occasionally, information comes my way from impeccable sources, so what I am going to divulge tonight, “nutjobs” can take as 100% verbatim. I would not post if I wasn’t convinced it was the truth. This is not idle gossip take it from me.

 

There is, apparently, massive tension between Andy Awford and McInnes, in fact the relationship is so bad it is fair to say they both hate each other. Not healthy I would say.

 

“Champagne Ian” never rated “Andy Awful” in the first place (you might remember Awford was not considered up to the task when they instead went for Richie Barker) and I gather the chairman has since been interfering on football matters and even setting up potential transfers without AA’s knowledge.

 

The story gets more intriguing, as it appears everyone’s favourite journo, Neil (Paragraph) Allen has now been dragged into the crossfire as Awford suspected a story The News ran was planted by McInnes. He, not surprisingly, was furious.

 

Awford hasn’t the clout (yet) to ban The News himself, but took revenge by curtly and pointedly only answering "yes" or "no" to any of their questions at press conferences pre and post-match.

 

The bottom line is Awford and McInnes have no mutual trust whatsoever and the relationship between the two is at breaking point and will only end in tears.

 

You heard it here first.

 

Not convinced by your information to be fair FF, I mean it's not like you have a track record of being ITK on these things!

 

Although not Saints related I thought, today of all days, this news (which has just come to me from an excellent well-placed source in P*mpey) deserves a position on the main forum. I am told news of the collapse will officially emerge in the next few days.

This is not a wind-up. I don't usually "do" gloating but with the mod's permission can I indulge myself just a little?

 

Perhaps today (July 8th) should now be made a public holiday in Hants.

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I suspected they were punching above their weight after Newport went there and won, Skates haven't won a match since, I don't think.

 

I can't take all the credit (or even any of it), but... "when the 'Port go steaming in" has actually stuck with the County fans as well as being hilarious at Fratton.

 

Somehow Newport are still a point behind them though. It's like last season in reverse.

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And while I think of it, what in the hell are they thinking, talking about building/expanding the one stand when they can't get close to filling the ground currently?

 

You have to love half-baked ideas like this, which is the sort of thing they shouldn't even consider until they've got themselves into the top 2 of the division above. Long and short of it, if they were well-run and competent, when they're out of transfer sanctions they SHOULD be able to get out of L2 fairly easily, as they SHOULD have a much bigger budget than most and they're at least Sheffield United sized. Confirmed L1/Championship yo-yo club within 10 years. If they actually invest in their academy they SHOULD also be able to get some kids through and maybe only run at the kind of manageable loss most L1 sides make. But channel those resources into a bigger stand for... well, no matches, and they can forget all that lot, they're back to not paying debts (or just siphoning money off the private HNW real owners if they're daft enough).

 

I was about to say "I can't work out how they managed to get Whatmough through their "youth system" " but then I remembered he was one of ours and we let him go, plus L2 isn't exactly the Premier League for punishing mistakes (or even Saints youth level for that matter).

 

But for now, lets enjoy the lolz.

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Are they serious about making fratton bigger???????

 

Click the link above. It's been mentioned a few times, not sure about the validity of the sources, but I think that it's been mentioned in conjunction with the Tesco development. I suppose it beats them spending it on wages, not that they're allowed to do that at the moment anyway.

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Just occasionally, information comes my way from impeccable sources, so what I am going to divulge tonight, “nutjobs” can take as 100% verbatim. I would not post if I wasn’t convinced it was the truth. This is not idle gossip take it from me.

 

There is, apparently, massive tension between Andy Awford and McInnes, in fact the relationship is so bad it is fair to say they both hate each other. Not healthy I would say.

 

“Champagne Ian” never rated “Andy Awful” in the first place (you might remember Awford was not considered up to the task when they instead went for Richie Barker) and I gather the chairman has since been interfering on football matters and even setting up potential transfers without AA’s knowledge.

 

The story gets more intriguing, as it appears everyone’s favourite journo, Neil (Paragraph) Allen has now been dragged into the crossfire as Awford suspected a story The News ran was planted by McInnes. He, not surprisingly, was furious.

 

Awford hasn’t the clout (yet) to ban The News himself, but took revenge by curtly and pointedly only answering "yes" or "no" to any of their questions at press conferences pre and post-match.

 

The bottom line is Awford and McInnes have no mutual trust whatsoever and the relationship between the two is at breaking point and will only end in tears.

 

You heard it here first.

Thanks FF (or can I call you Duncan?) For younger nutjobs born after page 1, Uncle Duncan is the legendary father of this epic thread. Hopefully he'll keep a close eye on things over the next few days as we hurtle towards the much-anticipated page 2000. Please be ready to make the 100,000th post Duncan.

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" The sun is shining at Portsmouth after several dark days. Gone are those who sucked this club dry and left it to rebuild from the brink of oblivion. Gone are the agonising days in court when supporters hung on words from the latest administrator. And gone are the club’s debts, the last vestiges of a period when excess and reckless ownership were the norm".

 

The debts may well have gone, but the vast majority of which were most definitely not paid in full. The way the article started I thought it was going to be a classic Factless Allen piece, descibing the weather and mood, setting the scene for a tale of heroics, the likes of which, we could only dream of at SMS.

 

Iain McInnes, the Portsmouth chairman, wrote in the matchday programme: “Our monkey has most definitely been sent packing with a one-way ticket to the zoo

 

So is this the end of TCW, the bell ringing goon?

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Weston Super Saint

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The proof is in the pudding!

 

Since the legacy debts have been 'settled' and all the monkeys have been packed off to the zoo never to return, can anyone confirm that the clock is hanging proudly where it once sat, ticking away noisily and keeping the right time?

 

Surely that's physical evidence that the debts have been 'settled' ;) Unless of course this particular settlement started with " You can keep your stupid clock, we've got far more important monkeys to be packing off here...."

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OK guys, an opportunity to comment on a wider stage; over to you lot...

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/11/portsmouth-mansfield-upbeat-debts

 

madeupname2

I wouldn't describe the atmosphere as "upbeat" today. The utter dross that got served up was enough to leave the best of us in a filthy temper.

 

Bluesed

"There were only smiles on display" you say. You obviously weren't at today's game. The team got booed off the pitch after another miserable performance.

What is The Observer doing letting a fantasy fiction writer loose in the sports section??

 

PompeyDane

It was indeed a dire and lacklustre performance, and the players seem low on confidence and bereft of any creative ideas whatsoever. The side looks increasingly like the one which Awford took over last season. I'm afraid there's a long way to go yet until we see success on the pitch.

Still, PUP!

 

 

Apparently that is what constitutes an upbeat mood at fatpipes these days!

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It will end in tears and sooner than their fans realise. When the manager/chairman relationship breaks down it is only a matter of time, believe me.

 

It'll end with Awful being sacked and replaced by someone else who will proclaim it a dream come true to manage the biggest club in world football with the bestest fans ever known.

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There is very little quality in that division and despite their poor performances they are still well within touching distance of a play-off place.

It may be that the proximity of gloriness and bestitude tempts the chairman to do something drastic if the results don't improve...

He knows that any team that can string half a dozen wins together will be straight up into the automatic slots so the temptation to meddle must be itchier than little Avram after an ill-judged foray into the unknown and unprotected.

 

 

Let's have a reality check.

They are below Morecambe and Burton, their rivals are Cheltenham, Accrington and Newport.

Fleetwood and Crawley are in the division above, and pompey can only dream of what Bournemouth and Rotherham have achieved.

What the few may need to accept is that they are a League Two Club and the occasional trip to League One should be their realistic target.

 

Until they face that ugly truth we will continue to chuckle at the delusion that they are in any way a big club or relevant to football in 2014.

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There is very little quality in that division and despite their poor performances they are still well within touching distance of a play-off place.

It may be that the proximity of gloriness and bestitude tempts the chairman to do something drastic if the results don't improve...

He knows that any team that can string half a dozen wins together will be straight up into the automatic slots so the temptation to meddle must be itchier than little Avram after an ill-judged foray into the unknown and unprotected.

 

 

Let's have a reality check.

They are below Morecambe and Burton, their rivals are Cheltenham, Accrington and Newport.

Fleetwood and Crawley are in the division above, and pompey can only dream of what Bournemouth and Rotherham have achieved.

What the few may need to accept is that they are a League Two Club and the occasional trip to League One should be their realistic target.

 

Until they face that ugly truth we will continue to chuckle at the delusion that they are in any way a big club or relevant to football in 2014.

 

Couldn't we just cut to the chase and say that they are a 4th Division club which aspires to be a 3rd Division club ??

Lge 2 implies the 2nd div which it clearly is not !

Anyway which way, you are correct to emphasise that they are sad, delusional and irrelevant !

Ps. love the word 'bestitude' :)

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I particularly like the way that the News has been talking up the "Pompey Academy".

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/the-academy-five-not-here-to-make-up-pompey-numbers-1-6351964

 

Say it enough times and the clueless blue few start spouting it too!

 

There was a time when Paul Hart could fritter in excess of £3m in one summer on recruiting players from Europe as well as these shores.

 

f*ck me :mcinnes:

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Been having a gander on POL. They all seem quite depressed and unhappy at the 3-5-2 formation that Awford has been playing but there weren't too many calls for him to be sacked.

 

Stumbled across a thread entitled 'Can PFC learn from them up the road?'. The OP was well-reasoned and I thought it would be a balanced thread

 

Rivalry aside for the moment, you have to think they are doing something right.

 

Stumbled across this on one of their sites, an article originating in The Express which explores the way they go about things. Well worth a read IMHO.

 

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=479&fid=224&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110649859

 

but alas, it didn't take long (Post 2) for some Portsmyths to rear their heads

 

Does the article include how to build a stadium you cannot afford?

How to try and swindle the f.a. into believing you aren't in admin?

Does it then contain information how to pay only a small percentage of the total cost owed on the afore mentioned stadium?

 

Does it state how of all their products of the academy the vast majority aren't from their local area and are brought in from other clubs? So there scouting network really just looks at other teams and cherry picks

 

Every single player brought through would have gone and made it at their respective clubs and helped the little man out. Scum have been doing the EPPP for years so it is the norm now.

 

I wish we would bring through the best and most talented but I wouldn't be fool enough to believe that spending 250k on a 16yr old means we have developed that olayer

 

Well I've wasted five minutes reading that article, and what a load of sycophantic nonsense it was. Anyway, here's the best example of the hyperbolic tone on the article:-

 

"Inside Southampton's training centre is also what is known as the ‘black-box', a room where every game and player is analysed from leagues across the world. Comprehensive checks are then done into their personality, family, friends, lifestyle and training habits."

 

Every game, every player? Across the world? Yeah, right.

 

They are also very good self-publicists for their Academy. I'd argue Reading's Academy has been almost as successful - Sigurdsson, Long, Wickham, Austin, Cox and many others in the current RFC first team squad but they are not publicity whores.

 

what scum do well is do thus,

 

But player from little known team, give 2/3/4 yrs at their academy. Break them into the first team, give them a chance to shine, sell them at the first sign of decent money. Wait til a few years down the line when they move for more money and proclaim it was all their work.

 

Bale is that example, shaw,chambers,Walcott and the ox are the examples of sell as soon as possible.

 

They're definitely not bitter, nope not at all... :mcinnes:

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Been having a gander on POL. They all seem quite depressed and unhappy at the 3-5-2 formation that Awford has been playing but there weren't too many calls for him to be sacked.

 

Stumbled across a thread entitled 'Can PFC learn from them up the road?'. The OP was well-reasoned and I thought it would be a balanced thread

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but alas, it didn't take long (Post 2) for some Portsmyths to rear their heads

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They're definitely not bitter, nope not at all... :mcinnes:

 

That chip carried on the shoulder of every skate must be of monumental proportions by now :D

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portsmyth - any information that is mentioned twice in a pub by a toothless, cross-eyed, heather selling sister-botherer - And once said portsmyth has been repeated, it can then be officially regarded as a fact.

 

Talking of that, how are they getting on with that £300M a year brought into the city by the club?

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They are also very good self-publicists for their Academy. I'd argue Reading's Academy has been almost as successful - Sigurdsson, Long, Wickham, Austin, Cox and many others in the current RFC first team squad but they are not publicity whores.

 

I must have missed them all make an impact whilst I was watching Shaw, Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Chambers break onto the international stage. Or are they going to pick out the losers like Gareth Bale who didn't make it to the World Cup.

 

You have to be blinkered or a moron to suggest the Reading academy is better than ours.

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what scum do well is do thus,

 

But player from little known team, give 2/3/4 yrs at their academy. Break them into the first team, give them a chance to shine, sell them at the first sign of decent money. Wait til a few years down the line when they move for more money and proclaim it was all their work.

 

Bale is that example, shaw,chambers,Walcott and the ox are the examples of sell as soon as possible.

 

Yep, what a fine mess that's got us into.

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what scum do well is do thus,

 

But player from little known team, give 2/3/4 yrs at their academy. Break them into the first team, give them a chance to shine, sell them at the first sign of decent money. Wait til a few years down the line when they move for more money and proclaim it was all their work.

 

Bale is that example, shaw,chambers,Walcott and the ox are the examples of sell as soon as possible.

 

Where as what they do is pick up rejects from other cubs, chuck them into their first team as there's no-one else, give them a chance to look mediocre in the middle of L2, argue about selling them for decent money whilst allowing their contract to run down and then finding out no-one wants them anyway whilst proclaiming that they've found the bestest player in the world. Exactly the same innit mush?

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Where as what they do is pick up rejects from other cubs, chuck them into their first team as there's no-one else, give them a chance to look mediocre in the middle of L2, argue about selling them for decent money whilst allowing their contract to run down and then finding out no-one wants them anyway whilst proclaiming that they've found the bestest player in the world. Exactly the same innit mush?

 

You forgot whilst not paying them

 

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Instead of picking up kids from other teams, playing them for a few years in the academy and then selling them on, under Saggy-chops p****y adopted a far more successful strategy.

 

Ignore any talented youngsters from your own patch (JWP), persuade your gun-running, child-maiming chairman to irresponsibly splash out a fortune he never really had on vastly-overpriced, internationals that the club could never really afford, don't pay them their wages, irresponsably rack up huge debts without a care in the world, dodge your way out of the £130m you owe, and then dupe fans to stump up their own money to keep the cadaver alive.

 

That's how to become a good League Two club. It might have bought the FA Cup along the way, but who worries about a tin pot trophy like that these days.

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Hawksby and Jacobs fawning over Pompey on Talksport this afternoon.

 

"Isn't it wonderful that they've paid off all their debts 2 years early"

 

Yeah, as wonderful as it would be if I cleared my mortgage debt by paying a small percentage of what I actually owed.

 

The whole media have basically been suckered in, haven't they?

 

:mcinnes:

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