Petersfield Saint Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 This, wont be happy until they are either struggling in the Skrill Prem for a few years, or stay in L2 but lose FP to Tesco's. Or preferably both! :-) Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 She looks more like a female wrestler tbh. Maybe she should keep up this fundraising malarkey and challenge Hilsea Creek Mud Wrestling Champion 'Luck Heather' to a tussle That would catch the locals attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Is that Jack Whatmough in next years away kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Nice legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Bit out of order posting pics of Bear's mum on saints web thou! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Bit out of order posting pics of Bear's mum on saints web thou! Who said it was Bear's Mum? It's the Bear they've posted a pic of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 It's the strategically placed nipple-covers I find puzzling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 This, wont be happy until they are either struggling in the Skrill Prem for a few years, or stay in L2 but lose FP to Tesco's. I want them gone. Gone, gone, gone. Gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 I want them gone. Gone, gone, gone. Gone. I know what you mean, I seem to drift between wanting them erased from history, and wanting to watch them suffer in the depths of non league football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 I assume this is Pompeys new forward going into training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 For God's sake stop quoting that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 For God's sake stop quoting that! Why?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Bit late to try this novel idea, maybe they could have tried it before and done something like repay some debt: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-boss-has-no-qualms-about-turning-to-youth-1-5826641 Would these be players from the same youth team hammered 7-0 by Saints? Did not see any you would want to gamble your Football League future on, to be honest. Even the much-vaunted (from that end of the M27) Whatmough was undressed and owned. Look at the proof. 00:45; Gallagher outstrips Whatmough to cross for the first 1:45; Whatmough loses the player he is supposed to be marking, who is subsequenlty left with a tap-in. 2:50; Jake Hesketh takes the mickey as he clips the ball over him, runs round him and slots home 4:30; Gallagher get a lucky break off his knee, but again he is ahead of Whatmough to get to the cross. Not bad for a central defender to have a culpable role in four out of seven goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Well they have to promote them soon ... they're winding up their academy in the summer (according to the loose collection of scribblings they stuck the title "business plan" on anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickn Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Is that Jack Whatmough in next years away kit? Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Well they have to promote them soon ... they're winding up their academy in the summer (according to the loose collection of scribblings they stuck the title "business plan" on anyway). In fairness (can't believe I've just typed that in this thread!) their laughable business plan didn't suggest that they would ditch the academy. They budgeted not to spend any money on it, presumably on the basis that it would prove to be self-funding from player sales. Which, now I come to think of it, is even funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 You're right ... they dressed it up a little bit, but in the original bid proposal they wrote: 6.7 Academy Costs PST plan to maintain the academy at category three. The effectiveness and cost of the academy would then be closely monitored and reviewed throughout the first two seasons, with a decision made on the future of the academy by the beginning of the 2014/15 season. The forecasts show no cost in the 2014/15 season for the academy, as it is believed that the board will have decided the Academy is too costly to run by this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 You're right ... they dressed it up a little bit, but in the original bid proposal they wrote: 6.7 Academy Costs PST plan to maintain the academy at category three. The effectiveness and cost of the academy would then be closely monitored and reviewed throughout the first two seasons, with a decision made on the future of the academy by the beginning of the 2014/15 season. The forecasts show no cost in the 2014/15 season for the academy, as it is believed that the board will have decided the Academy is too costly to run by this point. Having an inferior academy to all your competition is a pretty pointless exercise to be honest, in fact there is absolutely no point in a skate academy. They have bigger fish to fry, they need to convince a load of skates to pay a £1k donation just to pay for next years training ground rent. How is the sale of villain Jed Wallace going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 (edited) http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/shameful-web-abuse-wrongs-wallace-1-5825730 Hero to Zero Edited 23 January, 2014 by Waterside.saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 What do you want the FA to do? Punish them further? They are fan owned now don't you know. I'd forgotten about that .................. refresh my memory, exactly what percentage of the "Club" do their "fans" own ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Even Fagin had an academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 I'd forgotten about that .................. refresh my memory, exactly what percentage of the "Club" do their "fans" own ?? Every call out to unblock those pipes sees it fall back that little bit further... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/shameful-web-abuse-wrongs-wallace-1-5825730 Hero to Zero "It has since become clear that came to be so after a group of female fans made the decision." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey_saint Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/shameful-web-abuse-wrongs-wallace-1-5825730 Hero to Zero Bestest fans in the world eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 I'd forgotten about that .................. refresh my memory, exactly what percentage of the "Club" do their "fans" own ?? The PST element was reduced from 57% to 52% recently following an injection of cash from their Presidents to cover work need at Fratton Park. The Alfie story and others like it indicate that the PST is doing a last push before the April cut off date to get more £1,000 pledges to bolster the PST element. Which is futile as they have exhausted the coffers of the fans while unbudgeted costs continue to rack up. I think it's relevant that the propaganda being put out and repeated by Factless Allen and co has altered the line in recent weeks from "community owned club" to "fan owned club". The News did a big piece about the HNW presidents a few days ago detailing who they are and how they are all fans of the club. Until then most of those 12 individuals had preferred to keep a low profile. Possibly a PR precursor to the HNWs taking a majority share in order to gain additional share ownership as they are forced to inject more funds into the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Bestest fans in the world eh? Widespread boos rang across Fratton Park as his name was announced. Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Ladies at football? And not there just to serve drinks or to pretty-up the bookies desk? Whatever next! If it carries on down this dangerous path they'll let one own a club one day and that'll signal the official end of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 One of the commenters even tried to suggest that some of the abusive tweets came from "scummahs". Yeah, and Nottarf Krap was full of Saints fans doing all that booing. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 One of the commenters even tried to suggest that some of the abusive tweets came from "scummahs". Yeah, and Nottarf Krap was full of Saints fans doing all that booing. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk What with that and the well-publicised infiltration of scummahs - who paid, but will demand the return of, £100 deposits - the dwindling phew may soon be entirely reliant our 'support'. Now *that* would be a good point for us to walk away whistling nonchalently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/shameful-web-abuse-wrongs-wallace-1-5825730 Hero to Zero I can't see him setting the world alight any higher than league 1 maybe Championship at best. Premier League reserve team bound So, is he trying to say that Jed is crap and won't be going anywhere? Except League 1 or maybe the Championship or possibly the premier league? So, basically he'll be going anywhere other than league 2 where the skates are!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffalo Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 I wouldn't say it's the full-on pleasure of a meltdown on FOL (yet), but it's certainly fun watching the glorious new era of openness and transparency descend into bickering and in-fighting as audacious 'shareholders' dare to question the PDT about their proposed spend on a couple of new wheelchair spaces at Fratton Park and a [fat free] dunny for the police. 'Community ownership'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Further to the Pompey administration rumour I posted, I got more details last night. It appears that this administration was always on the cards when the club was bought by the fans and why no one else would touch the club with a barge pole. It all comes down to the money owed to the former players. They are being paid out over 4 years as part of the administration exit agreement, but the parachute payments only ran for 2 years. ....so, all it will take is one of their former players not agreeing to re-schedule the debt and it's curtains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Further to the Pompey administration rumour I posted, I got more details last night. It appears that this administration was always on the cards when the club was bought by the fans and why no one else would touch the club with a barge pole. It all comes down to the money owed to the former players. They are being paid out over 4 years as part of the administration exit agreement, but the parachute payments only ran for 2 years. ....so, all it will take is one of their former players not agreeing to re-schedule the debt and it's curtains... i thought this was all ready re-scheduled and being monitored by the league or who ever so they couldnt change it, i may be wrong i usually am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffalo Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Further to the Pompey administration rumour I posted, I got more details last night. It appears that this administration was always on the cards when the club was bought by the fans and why no one else would touch the club with a barge pole. It all comes down to the money owed to the former players. They are being paid out over 4 years as part of the administration exit agreement, but the parachute payments only ran for 2 years. ....so, all it will take is one of their former players not agreeing to re-schedule the debt and it's curtains... Interesting.. As I understand it, the last tranche of parachute payments was pretty much exactly the amount owed to the ex-heroes turned villains. For reasons of 'good economic sense' [sic], rather than clear the ex-players' debt in full upon receipt of the PPs, the PDT decided to phase the payments over a period of 40 months. It was claimed at the time that the PPs would be ring-fenced for the players' debt and nothing else. How strong their 'fence' is and how long until the PDT decide to 'borrow a little bit, just to us through for a week or so' remains to be seen. However, I must admit to thinking that all of the players must have agreed to this deferred payment plan otherwise the club wouldn't have been permitted to exit administration. Are your sources saying this might not be the case ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Perhaps GM is referring to a player so ancient he's worried he won't live long enough to collect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Just can't see the PP being used for other purposes that the agreements laid down in the Fratton Rosetta Stone commandments Please no suggestions that the finances are written on fag packets thinking that money we get - can use some of that now because it will be topped up with their promotion push - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Further to the Pompey administration rumour I posted, I got more details last night. It appears that this administration was always on the cards when the club was bought by the fans and why no one else would touch the club with a barge pole. It all comes down to the money owed to the former players. They are being paid out over 4 years as part of the administration exit agreement, but the parachute payments only ran for 2 years. ....so, all it will take is one of their former players not agreeing to re-schedule the debt and it's curtains... My understanding is that they (Through the PFA) have already accepted the 40 month terms as part of the last administration package. It was strange at the time, because they only have one parachute payment left to come (Which was very fortunately increased based on the new TV revenue deal - also worth bearing in mind that the year they went down parachute payments leapt from 30 million to 54,so through nothing but pure luck and timing, means they have picked up an additional 26 million in cash than previous clubs who were relegated before them). Anyway as already mentioned the last parachute payment is almost exactly the same as the money owed to the players, so why they needed 40 months I have no idea. But the PFA do have three charges against fratton park, so until they are paid, they effectively own fatpipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 But the PFA do have three charges against fratton park, so until they are paid, they effectively own fatpipes. What's that worth though? Can we really see the PFA kicking PFC out of their ground and selling it off? In an ordinary business that might happen, but would the PFA want to be seen as effectively killing of a football club? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 I think GM is referring to the next predictable attempted rescheduling. Regular readers will remember that the parachute payments have always been the answer to everything and that all was fine because they were ringfenced. As debt went unpaid and they were spent on wages, this was downgraded to earmarked and in reality I believe they just keep spending money that they know is needed sometime later. I owe someone £10 next week, I have £10 in my pocket, shall I save it and pay my debt or buy shiny stuff and worry about it next week? My understanding was that the PPs nearly cover the player debt, so as long as they don't continue to splash out on stupid wages and save some money from their other income, they will be able satisfy the terms to exit administration, thus completing the current takeover. History and the attitude of the PDT would suggest that they will have a shortfall and will once again go begging to the former hero players to save the club again by taking yet another cut. Let's remember this debt was originally £24M and the players have already done them a huge favour. If that is their only plan, from what I've read of Dave Kitson he would rather dance on their graves than take a further cut. Turn the music up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Surely they can't get away with dishonouring yet another CVA....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Surely they can't get away with dishonouring yet another CVA....? As if they would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 They are such slippery skates they can get away with anything has history has taught us….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 If that is their only plan, from what I've read of Dave Kitson he would rather dance on their graves than take a further cut. From what I read of Dave Kitson, he got paid completely in full and isn't owed anything anymore? Was he in that list that was kicking around a while ago? If he is partly the SF, then he said he played hardball and unexpectantly got paid in full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Surely they can't get away with dishonouring yet another CVA....? Outrageous suggestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Tal Ben Haim - £20k a month ouch - what a hero !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Tal Ben Haim - £20k a month ouch - what a hero !!!!! Worth every penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 If the SF is partly Kitson, then he definitely says he got paid in full. He may have been talking about wages he was owed up to that point or some other lump sum he was owed though. That is a true roll-call of honour. It brings a tear to my eye, just what these heroes have done for us and all the South Coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 A little add up - works out at just over 100k a month for 40 months on wages - plus the dated lump sums due - could buy a cup for that , oh hold a moment ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 That's one hell of a time-bomb for a League Two club if they havn't ring fenced all the Parachutes. Tick tock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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