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I may find some photos of my day - won't upload the pics of the three of us posing with our Saints STs though. :)

 

Did find this piece of nonsense though, from the end of September. Simon Ferry wasn't even in the best 4 midfielders on the pitch today, never mind the best in L2:

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-star-hailed-as-best-midfielder-in-league-two-1-5527446?WT.mc_id=Outbrain_text&obref=obinsite

now County's Adam Chapman, there's a player. Always pivotal.

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Ok, bit blurry (as was I), but here are some nice shotd of the Pompey Faithful in the last few minutes of the match - there was no booing, but that's because they'd just gone home instead:

 

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Fratton end looking a bit sparse too...

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Oh, and...

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Welcome, help yourself to 3 points.

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All skate hating aside, you have to give them credit for still turning out those numbers in the situation they are in. If that was a neutral club we'd all be saying fair play to them. It kind of makes it sweeter that so many of them are there to watch the abysmal performances! :D WTFILN

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That must have been a good day out!

Did you visit the permanent exhibition Toilets from the Middle Ages or attend the living art installation Unpacked Park?

If I'd known you were going you could have picked me up a souvenir jar of tap fat, or some horse brass and heather from the club shop.

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That must have been a good day out!

Did you visit the permanent exhibition Toilets from the Middle Ages or attend the living art installation Unpacked Park?

If I'd known you were going you could have picked me up a souvenir jar of tap fat, or some horse brass and heather from the club shop.

 

Have they given up on fixing that clock yet? What with the neglect and the fatty fumes it must have been a difficult if not impossible proposition to clean & repair

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All skate hating aside, you have to give them credit for still turning out those numbers in the situation they are in.

 

Not really. If you price it cheap enough you will get bums on seats. 6 games free with a season ticket wasn't it?

 

Looks great on the gate figures, not so great on the bank balance. And at the end of the day only one of those matters.

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Not really. If you price it cheap enough you will get bums on seats. 6 games free with a season ticket wasn't it?

 

Looks great on the gate figures, not so great on the bank balance. And at the end of the day only one of those matters.

 

Tbf mate, even if it was free I wouldn't go and watch that shower at fortress fatpipes! Got to give them credit for (nearly) filling up I think.

 

On another note, I'm surprised we don't have better WUM's on the skates fansonline page!

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All those empty seats means someone is telling porkies.

 

Perhaps the 15,000 gate figure was inflated, although in this new era of honesty and transparency surely that's impossible.

 

So if that's the case, then the bestest™ must be leaving early in their droves - and we all know that they never do that...

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"Argentine soccer legend Diego Maradona is offering to bring four international stars to newly owned Portsmouth, if the club appoints him as their global ambassador, his lawyer has claimed.

 

And in a further development, an advisor to new Pompey owner Sulaiman Al Fahim confirmed this morning that “discussions” have been held with Maradona’s cousin Remigio Maradona over a role for the former World Cup winner at the club.

 

Confidential emails sent by Maradona’s lawyer Angel Oscar Moyano claim the superstar is willing to act on behalf of Valencia striker David Villa and Barcelona hero Samuel Eto’o. The email also mentions his son-in-law Kun Aguero, who plays for Atletico Madrid and another Valencia striker, David Silva, as possible targets.

 

“Diego Armando Maradona has players “personal“ commitment [sic] to enter into exclusive talks with Dr Sulaiman Al Fahim”, writes Moyano.

 

Eto'o, Villa, Silva. Crap players or what? We'll be down this season for sure and in administration within a year. Yeah, looks like you guys were right all along. We've fuucking had it big style..........:rolleyes:

 

A classic post from the past. Lol.

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All those empty seats means someone is telling porkies.

 

Perhaps the 15,000 gate figure was inflated, although in this new era of honesty and transparency surely that's impossible.

 

So if that's the case, then the bestest™ must be leaving early in their droves - and we all know that they never do that...

 

The figures include all ST holders regardless of whether they actually turn up or not. With 12000 or so ST holders plus 800 Newport fans there won't have been many Skates who actually bought match tickets for yesterday.

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I went today.

 

Blue santa suits were sh01te, and few and far between, though bloody loads of them went as Empty Seat Transformers - about 5000 of those turned up at the start, and I reckon there were around 10000 of them by the final whistle.

 

I had a bloody fabulous time, bonus to County fans for singing "Oh when the Saints", "What's that coming over the hill, is it the taxman" and "say hello to Wrexham".

 

Oh, and Conference standard football is being VERY generous, their attack is L2 standard and their defence would get taken to bits by a top half Conference attack. Sonny Bradley is literally their only vaguely decent defender, Devera headed the ball straight up in the air in the penalty area at least twice when unchallenged and sliced everything else off the pitch. The U18's captain who shipped 7 is basically next in line, their future is bright - in a heading to the centre of the sun kind of way.

 

I haven't smiled like to that in ages. Superb the9.

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Mcinnes is still eyeing a play off spot. It's almost as if they banked on it :scared::scared:

 

It's just unfair that every team approach it as their cup final and they keep losing.

 

It wont be long until mcinnes has a decision to make. As the few get restless with results and performances, there might be an opportunity to strengthen the team. With the compromise agreements negotiated to be settled within four years and the last parachute payment being made in 2013 or 2014 (I cant remember) there will be a pile of cash burning a hold in their pocket...... They could of course settle the compromise early, or may be roll the dice again.

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-safety-barker-remit-but-mcinnes-hopes-for-more-1-5745760

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This was the season for emphasising how good the team was.

A play-off place wasn't essential but top 7 of 24 teams should have been possible.

But bobbing along in the bottom 7 of the league was not expected.

Nor was the inadequate unattractive defeatist football of recent months.

If it continues I expect only half of the season tickets to be sold again next year.

5,000 ST's and maybe 1,000 casuals = 6,000 crowds.

The board should start planning for those numbers unless they can spring some surprises starting next month.

 

Just saw this OP on the skates fansonline. Looks as though reality might be getting into their fishy heads!

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Mcinnes is still eyeing a play off spot. It's almost as if they banked on it :scared::scared:

 

It's just unfair that every team approach it as their cup final and they keep losing.

 

It wont be long until mcinnes has a decision to make. As the few get restless with results and performances, there might be an opportunity to strengthen the team. With the compromise agreements negotiated to be settled within four years and the last parachute payment being made in 2013 or 2014 (I cant remember) there will be a pile of cash burning a hold in their pocket...... They could of course settle the compromise early, or may be roll the dice again.

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-safety-barker-remit-but-mcinnes-hopes-for-more-1-5745760

 

The earliest that they have budgeted to pay off their footballing debts is Xmas 2015. They don't expect to actually expect to actually do it until Summer 2016. They cannot buy a player until those debts are paid.

 

Those dates have been confirmed by PST board members and reported by #factless.

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Ok, bit blurry (as was I), but here are some nice shotd of the Pompey Faithful in the last few minutes of the match - there was no booing, but that's because they'd just gone home instead:

 

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Fratton end looking a bit sparse too...

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Oh, and...

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Welcome, help yourself to 3 points.

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I think you should take the home next time :)

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I thought the season ticket total was around 10,000 at about £200 a go.

That low price certainly got the numbers in but we always said that it would damage the income for the rest of the season.

 

The plan was to get that hardcore in for cashflow, and then to get a promotion campaign on the go to fill the ground and bring in matchday income.

So yes, on paper 15,000 for League Two looks pretty good, compared with people like Newport and Accrington - but the masterplan has gone off the rails.

 

For the self-proclaimed biggest fan-owned club in history, who claimed in their marketing material the best atmosphere in world football, there was an intention to have gates of 18,000+ cheering them back to the Prem.

Perhaps a more modest club might accept some stabilising years in the basement, but when you gob off like that and then fail to deliver....

 

And if you think that is just unrealistic Nutjobbery, check out our own stats from League One and imagine the attendances if we had done season tickets at £200 - we took 50,000+ to Wembley paying full price.

Coventry recently took 7,000 to an away game, Leeds took 6,500, people like West Ham can muster 6,000.

pompey's fanbase can be measured by their away trips that are charged at full price.

 

They may consider themselves a big fish in League Two, but their second season in the basement will tell us how the projections are working, and how fresh that feelgood factor really is.

 

 

rallyboy you jealous nutjob, 15,000 is fantastic...

Yes it would be - if they were all paying!

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http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/barker-pompey-players-lacking-confidence-1-5750647

 

In over 40 years of watching Pompey I have never left before the end of a game; that changed yesterday. There is something very wrong at the club, or on the pitch more accurately. No leadership, no togetherness, little strength, no pace, not much skill, I could go on. It just shows exactly how bad things have become. It was never realistic to put this team as favourites to be promoted. We have just lost at home to a team that are not long out of the Conference and to be honest they were shocking (but fourth in the league !!!), it was like watching two Dockyard league teams and that`s being unkind to some of those. It leaves us in a very precarious position. Good luck Richie, you`ll need it to turn this round for us.

 

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The earliest that they have budgeted to pay off their footballing debts is Xmas 2015. They don't expect to actually expect to actually do it until Summer 2016. They cannot buy a player until those debts are paid.

 

Those dates have been confirmed by PST board members and reported by #factless.

 

That's a very dangerous game VFTT, relying on pst board members or factless as a source of information, is at best ******* stupid.

 

The point however remains. There is a significant delta in the time they will have the money, to when the officially have to pay it back. The inability to sign players for a fee wont get in the way if they choose to roll the dice.

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That's a very dangerous game VFTT, relying on pst board members or factless as a source of information, is at best ******* stupid.

 

The point however remains. There is a significant delta in the time they will have the money, to when the officially have to pay it back. The inability to sign players for a fee wont get in the way if they choose to roll the dice.

 

I disagree. The reason they are a pile of sh*t is that the FL are all over them like a rash and that isn't going to change any time soon.

 

My pet PSTer, whom I see socially ever couple of weeks or so, :D is a realist and can't quote workout they the fans haven't picked up on the position they are actually in.

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fans haven't picked up on the position they are actually in.

 

That's probably because some moron writing in the local rag keeps telling them the place is buzzing with excitement, they've got the best midfielder in the division and everything is rosy.

 

Or should that be Rosie?

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All skate hating aside, you have to give them credit for still turning out those numbers in the situation they are in. If that was a neutral club we'd all be saying fair play to them. It kind of makes it sweeter that so many of them are there to watch the abysmal performances! :D WTFILN

 

 

As others have pointed out, that attendance figure will include all ST holders, whther they went or not, and they sold a lot of STs , on the crest of the propaganda wave of becoming the bestest fan-owned club in the universe. NEXT season's attendance figures will be the real test, once L2 reality has sunk in.

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A mcinness facepalm of a post if ever I saw one:

 

We should take no blame whatsoever. Players know when they come here they will be playing in front of gates that will eclipse many Championship teams' crowds. If they feel intimidated by that they shouldn't come here in the first place or should volunteer for the exit door if they can't hack it. (Although if they sustain their shocking efforts, those gates may collapse.)

 

Our fans have overdosed on dross. Again this miserable and dreadful team were booed off and Fratton emptied at a breathtaking rate yesterday. I am not one to leave until the final whistle...then I say I what I think. You leave and you hear snippets of conversations from the despairing masses: 'it is only two that go down into the Conference, isn't it?'Is Fratton becalmed this season?Watching this garbage, is it any wonder? Is the consequence of shame atonment? No, it's going from bad to even worse. We concede and cue the rousing of our team...to no discernible effect. Into the last minute of the Wycombe game- the fourth minute of injury time- and a corner given away by a ghastly sliced clearance from N'Gala. The first corner is just about survived and put behind by Carson. The next? Bundled into our net. I said to my fellow season-ticket holder: 'There will be a riot if this goes in.' Of course it did. There wasn't a riot or any anger. It was as if fans expected the worst and duly it arrived.

 

As far as making mistakes go, they have been making them since day one of the season and probably before that since we leaked like a sieve even in pre-season. The players aren't good enough. The key is to make them tolerably bad so as to get us through the season with Conference status averted. So because the mistakes have flowed from the start and our players move from one game to another inexorably going from defensive cock-up to another, the fans are in no way culpable. This lot don't need barracking to induce fear into making errors. They do it of their own volition without our 'help'.

 

I have no confidence in the players and I will tell this to their faces. I am disgusted with the results and performances this season. I am not going to post one thing on here and say another thing to their faces if I ever met them.

 

Make no mistake, the patient isn't on the financial life support machine anymore, but the patient is still gravely sick. The Wallace money must be used to good effect. Five games in 15 days. Five season-defining games.Coppell and Richie, work the alchemist's touch.

 

When you look at what our fans have had to endure- administrations, humiliations, relegations, pure rot on the field- I am sorry, but there comes a time when the players have to do something to raise the crowd; habitually and historically we do it for the players. They must reciprocate and give us something about which to cheer.

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A mcinness facepalm of a post if ever I saw one:

We should take no blame whatsoever. Players know when they come here they will be playing in front of gates that will eclipse many Championship teams' crowds. If they feel intimidated by that they shouldn't come here in the first place or should volunteer for the exit door if they can't hack it. (Although if they sustain their shocking efforts, those gates may collapse.)

 

Our fans have overdosed on dross. Again this miserable and dreadful team were booed off and Fratton emptied at a breathtaking rate yesterday. I am not one to leave until the final whistle...then I say I what I think. You leave and you hear snippets of conversations from the despairing masses: 'it is only two that go down into the Conference, isn't it?'Is Fratton becalmed this season?Watching this garbage, is it any wonder? Is the consequence of shame atonment? No, it's going from bad to even worse. We concede and cue the rousing of our team...to no discernible effect. Into the last minute of the Wycombe game- the fourth minute of injury time- and a corner given away by a ghastly sliced clearance from N'Gala. The first corner is just about survived and put behind by Carson. The next? Bundled into our net. I said to my fellow season-ticket holder: 'There will be a riot if this goes in.' Of course it did. There wasn't a riot or any anger. It was as if fans expected the worst and duly it arrived.

 

As far as making mistakes go, they have been making them since day one of the season and probably before that since we leaked like a sieve even in pre-season. The players aren't good enough. The key is to make them tolerably bad so as to get us through the season with Conference status averted. So because the mistakes have flowed from the start and our players move from one game to another inexorably going from defensive cock-up to another, the fans are in no way culpable. This lot don't need barracking to induce fear into making errors. They do it of their own volition without our 'help'.

 

I have no confidence in the players and I will tell this to their faces. I am disgusted with the results and performances this season. I am not going to post one thing on here and say another thing to their faces if I ever met them.

 

Make no mistake, the patient isn't on the financial life support machine anymore, but the patient is still gravely sick. The Wallace money must be used to good effect. Five games in 15 days. Five season-defining games.Coppell and Richie, work the alchemist's touch.

 

When you look at what our fans have had to endure- administrations, humiliations, relegations, pure rot on the field- I am sorry, but there comes a time when the players have to do something to raise the crowd; habitually and historically we do it for the players. They must reciprocate and give us something about

 

They just need a little patience until their youth team players come through.

 

They what? 7-0? Really?

 

OK then, they're ****ed.

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We should take no blame whatsoever. Players know when they come here they will be playing in front of gates that will eclipse many Championship teams' crowds. If they feel intimidated by that they shouldn't come here in the first place or should volunteer for the exit door if they can't hack it. (Although if they sustain their shocking efforts, those gates may collapse.)

 

Our fans have overdosed on dross. Again this miserable and dreadful team were booed off and Fratton emptied at a breathtaking rate yesterday. I am not one to leave until the final whistle...then I say I what I think. You leave and you hear snippets of conversations from the despairing masses: 'it is only two that go down into the Conference, isn't it?'Is Fratton becalmed this season?Watching this garbage, is it any wonder? Is the consequence of shame atonment? No, it's going from bad to even worse. We concede and cue the rousing of our team...to no discernible effect. Into the last minute of the Wycombe game- the fourth minute of injury time- and a corner given away by a ghastly sliced clearance from N'Gala. The first corner is just about survived and put behind by Carson. The next? Bundled into our net. I said to my fellow season-ticket holder: 'There will be a riot if this goes in.' Of course it did. There wasn't a riot or any anger. It was as if fans expected the worst and duly it arrived.

 

As far as making mistakes go, they have been making them since day one of the season and probably before that since we leaked like a sieve even in pre-season. The players aren't good enough. The key is to make them tolerably bad so as to get us through the season with Conference status averted. So because the mistakes have flowed from the start and our players move from one game to another inexorably going from defensive cock-up to another, the fans are in no way culpable. This lot don't need barracking to induce fear into making errors. They do it of their own volition without our 'help'.

 

I have no confidence in the players and I will tell this to their faces. I am disgusted with the results and performances this season. I am not going to post one thing on here and say another thing to their faces if I ever met them.

 

Make no mistake, the patient isn't on the financial life support machine anymore, but the patient is still gravely sick. The Wallace money must be used to good effect. Five games in 15 days. Five season-defining games.Coppell and Richie, work the alchemist's touch.

 

When you look at what our fans have had to endure- administrations, humiliations, relegations, pure rot on the field- I am sorry, but there comes a time when the players have to do something to raise the crowd; habitually and historically we do it for the players. They must reciprocate and give us something about which to cheer.

 

How come this never affects Rangers who have home crowds of 45,000 and the rest of the league have a few hundred !

They have a 100% record at the moment !

Maybe the Skates are just sh#t, or has that not occurred to them ??

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Players know when they come here they will be playing in front of gates that will eclipse many Championship teams' crowds.

 

This is the reason this thread is still alive. This is the reason that pity hasn't replaced the anger. This never ending assertion that they are huge and the most passionest and bestest.

 

I genuinely can't remember us being like that in league 1, maybe I am deluding myself. At the time I remember thinking what a lot of thoroughly decent people the away fans were and how nice it was to have a natter to them before and after the game. No pretence no bulls hit, just decent honest footballing people. Most of my mates felt we left league one with a new found respect for the lower leagues and a tinge of sadness at leaving decent supporters for the plastic hoards. I know the football wasn't great at times.

 

I think it all comes down to respect , and the utter lack of it that the filthy skates show to anyone. Be it a fellow league 2 club and their fans, the rules in their own grounds, a local charity or a tax bill.

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This is the reason this thread is still alive. This is the reason that pity hasn't replaced the anger. This never ending assertion that they are huge and the most passionest and bestest.

 

I genuinely can't remember us being like that in league 1, maybe I am deluding myself. At the time I remember thinking what a lot of thoroughly decent people the away fans were and how nice it was to have a natter to them before and after the game. No pretence no bulls hit, just decent honest footballing people. Most of my mates felt we left league one with a new found respect for the lower leagues and a tinge of sadness at leaving decent supporters for the plastic hoards. I know the football wasn't great at times.

 

I think it all comes down to respect , and the utter lack of it that the filthy skates show to anyone. Be it a fellow league 2 club and their fans, the rules in their own grounds, a local charity or a tax bill.

 

Quite right, I personally found our spell in the lower leagues humbling and enjoyable, it gave a refreshed perspective for enjoying higher league status when achieved while knowing how good the lower league community is. Populated by dignified clubs who have smaller but equally as passionate fanbases.

 

We had to earn our way back out of those leagues, we were there for a reason as the Skates are down there now.... but of course it's not their fault, they have a divine right to be back up and on top of their peers. Until that attitude changes, until they show a little contrition then they can rot.

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I love the way they bang on about their players freezing in front of their 'massive crowds', it's ****ing hilarious.

 

We regularly send 18 year olds out in front of 50-60K crowds, against some of the best teams in Europe, live on Sky to millions around the globe - not a problem.

 

Their seasoned first team pros can't handle the pressure of playing Newport in front of 12-15K.

 

Or maybe, just maybe, they are not very good at football?

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I love the way they bang on about their players freezing in front of their 'massive crowds', it's ****ing hilarious.

 

We regularly send 18 year olds out in front of 50-60K crowds, against some of the best teams in Europe, live on Sky to millions around the globe - not a problem.

 

Their seasoned first team pros can't handle the pressure of playing Newport in front of 12-15K.

 

Or maybe, just maybe, they are not very good at football?

 

I'm not a sports psychiatrist but you have to wonder if all these comments about the players bottling makes them play worse? If nothing else it shows a huge lack of respect for the players and their abilities.

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Here is the latest facepalm quote regarding Wallace possibly going to wolves:

 

In all seriousness .. What do we think he's worth and how do we think his fee should be structured?... He's one of those who could end up being a Walcott or Oxlade Chamberlain.. With Jason Pearce we managed a 50% knock on clause I believe.. We bought him back so got half off... I'd like to think we'll get at 2 or 3 hundred thousand with extras for appearances in the Championship, Premiership England etc
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This is the reason this thread is still alive. This is the reason that pity hasn't replaced the anger. This never ending assertion that they are huge and the most passionest and bestest.

 

I genuinely can't remember us being like that in league 1, maybe I am deluding myself. At the time I remember thinking what a lot of thoroughly decent people the away fans were and how nice it was to have a natter to them before and after the game. No pretence no bulls hit, just decent honest footballing people. Most of my mates felt we left league one with a new found respect for the lower leagues and a tinge of sadness at leaving decent supporters for the plastic hoards. I know the football wasn't great at times.

 

I think it all comes down to respect , and the utter lack of it that the filthy skates show to anyone. Be it a fellow league 2 club and their fans, the rules in their own grounds, a local charity or a tax bill.

 

I couldn't agree more. You have to respect the league you are in. Whatever league you are playing in is the correct league for you. If you learn this lesson I believe that you enjoy your football a lot more.

 

Personally it was only towards the end of our third season in the Championship that I came to realise that we were in that league for a reason - and that reason was that we were not good enough for the Prem. Until then we were a team that was bound to get back to its rightful place. For a long time I thought it was only Redknapp being a c ock / dodgy Billy Davies / bad luck in the play off semi final / Paul Allen not coming up with the goods etc etc that stopped us getting back up in the Premiership. After all we had been to a recent cup final. We didn't deserve to play "little" clubs like Burnley and Hull - they were a lot smaller than us even though Burnley and Hull made it up to the Premiership long before we did !

 

I think it was our last day win against Sheffield United that made me realise that we had no good given right to be in the top tier. We were not very good. We were not heading back to the Premiership . We needed to work hard & to respect the League we were in.

 

I found that with respect came enjoyment. All of a sudden it is not a disaster to "only draw away" at places like Wycombe. Victory against Dagenham and Redbridge tastes sweet - even though it is "only" Dagenham and Redbridge. As others have said, I have some great memories of our time in League 1 - even of the " Double Dutch year."

 

Until the skates learn the same lesson and start to show some respect for the League in which they are in , they will not be able to go forward.

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I'm quite happy for the Skates to delude themselves for as long as they want!

 

This is a post from one of my favourite idiots on the News comments board today:

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/barker-lays-it-on-line-to-players-1-5751354#comments-area

 

PORTSMOUTH SAVED 20 4 13 PUP

 

12:22 PM on 16/12/2013

 

I agree with richie barker you have to be special to play in front of 15000+ every team wants to beat pompey and its their cup final at fratton their fans seem to turn up in larger numbers also. It will be interrsting who mr barker keeps

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