Pompey Takeover Saga

[mcjwills]

True surrounded by plastics who support Chelsea !!!. I am from Southampton so I am aware of the bile that eminates from that sh*thole east of Bitterne. However, with all due respect,what you are describing is rivalry at best and pure hatred at worst. That happens between many clubs and we are not unique. However that "rivalry" has been around long before the "Takeover saga" and probably desrves a thread on its own.

 

Most clubs face uncertainties as to their financial future and we all could become victims of Rich playboys who tire of their toys or find that the launderette no longer works. If we continue to play the way we are playing it could be Chelsea that become our rivals . Now there is a thought?

 

Or Barca in CL lol

[alehouseboys]

Might I propose: "Carry on Pompey"?

 

It would make a great film caper wouldn't it?

 

 

With trouble brewing with the local shopkeepers recently over their plans with Tesco it gave me an idea for a new sitcom

but I feel it may have already been done, early sketches but...

 

 

 

 

...but you're right, a 'Carry On' film could be a blockbuster!

[The9]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/jan/29/newsstory.sport4

 

Nice Google, I couldn't find anything when I looked.

 

Highly amusing to see that (possibly due to me looking for the Secret Footballer on Google recently), The Guardian is advertising the new book on that page when I look at it.

Edited 10 November, 2013 by The9

[The9]

Coming on here so often reminds me of my childhood, in the Middle School playgrounds of Southampton. The child-like name-calling, the petty squabbles - it's like I'm here with a bunch of old school mates who never actually 'grew up'.

 

You only have to look at the way the knuckle-draggers refer to things like people requesting law-abiding behaviour as "grasses" to see how little progress some of them have made since (or indeed in) school.

 

As far as "mong" goes, my opinion of all perjorative terms is that unless you're using it as an insult to someone who actually has that affliction/state/condition/life choice/skin colour, there's no reason to consider it offensive.

 

Eg "Your hat is gay" - why would a gay person consider something being gay an insult?

 

Can of worms, anyone?

Edited 10 November, 2013 by The9

[The9]

My apologies if anyone was offended by the term "mongs". This thread, in my opinion, is no longer a "takeover" thread but a Pompey bashing and "lets beat them up" gloat monologue. I watched Saints destroy Hull yesterday and was amused with the amusing chants on the theme of England and Brazil. Then there was the Will I be Pompey Will I be Saints chant. As my brother said to me, who gives a dam about that lot. We will never play them again in our lifetimes (unless we meet in the Cups).

 

Whether we like it or not They have been taken over and best of luck to them. Now for those of you who feed on their suffering and have relished over a thousand posts on the subject.. I say move on. As in all things in life they run their course. This thread has run is no longer "pompey Takeover" but "Pompey Move over"

 

And anyone who's been following this thread will be more than aware that there's probably going to be lots more admin and takeover fun as soon as they start having to pay their bills without parachute payments, or the fans/owners get bored with bumbling around mid-table in League 2 whilst still having creditor payments scheduled until 2016. This is just a lull before their in-fighting and more financial problems begin, and yeah, we're happy to poke harmless fun at them in the meantime.

[Hatch]

while they are alive and still breathing, this thread will continue

[Pugwash]

Hmmm.

 

Goalie66 does raise an interesting idea, though.

 

"Pompey Move Over Saga" does have a certain ring to it...

[Kingsland Red]

A bit late from The Snooze, but the inevitable Begovic article. Another sad Storrie :

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/opinion/pompey-set-to-lose-out-again-on-keeper-1-5666594

[trousers]

My apologies if anyone was offended by the term "mongs". This thread, in my opinion, is no longer a "takeover" thread but a Pompey bashing and "lets beat them up" gloat monologue. I watched Saints destroy Hull yesterday and was amused with the amusing chants on the theme of England and Brazil. Then there was the Will I be Pompey Will I be Saints chant. As my brother said to me, who gives a dam about that lot. We will never play them again in our lifetimes (unless we meet in the Cups).

 

Whether we like it or not They have been taken over and best of luck to them. Now for those of you who feed on their suffering and have relished over a thousand posts on the subject.. I say move on. As in all things in life they run their course. This thread has run is no longer "pompey Takeover" but "Pompey Move over"

 

Maybe we should have closed the thread after one of the previous takeovers?

[trousers]

A bit late from The Snooze, but the inevitable Begovic article. Another sad Storrie :

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/opinion/pompey-set-to-lose-out-again-on-keeper-1-5666594

 

Mr Allen gets as far as paragraph 2 before trotting out the first incorrect 'fact'...

 

A wind-propelled kick up field against Southampton and suddenly the 26-year-old was elevated into a slot on Match of the Day 2

 

He was actually booked to appear on MotD2 before the freak goal incident.

 

#factless

[The9]

Mr Allen gets as far as paragraph 2 before trotting out the first incorrect 'fact'...

 

He was actually booked to appear on MotD2 before the freak goal incident.

 

#factless

 

He was indeed, they announced that he was booked on the previous Tuesday on MotD2 itself!

[trousers]

@pn_neil_allen: So David Lampitt has left Supporters Direct. Their statement on intriguingly sudden and very swift departure. #Pompey http://t.co/9hBSHA8jn8

[Pugwash]

Mr Allen gets as far as paragraph 2 before trotting out the first incorrect 'fact'...

 

 

That'll be the second sentence, then?

 

(I might actually read it now to check.)

Edited 10 November, 2013 by Pugwash
Yep, I was right!

[COMEONYOUREDS]

@pn_neil_allen: So David Lampitt has left Supporters Direct. Their statement on intriguingly sudden and very swift departure. #Pompey http://t.co/9hBSHA8jn8

 

We regret to announce that Chief Executive David Lampitt will be leaving Supporters Direct at the end of the year. - See more at: http://www.supporters-direct.org/news-article/supporters-direct-statement-david-lampitt#sthash.aQ7ZuH9n.dpuf

 

at the end of the year doesn't sound particularly sudden, sounds like somebody working their notice to me. Certainly not intriguing either, although it might be if you are a Z rate news reporter on a 4th division local team that the bloke once had a connection to.

 

Great work Neil! was desperate to know your take on recent events

[Gemmel]

http://fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=522523

 

Ouch micha has to cough up 25 big ones

[trousers]

http://fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=522523

 

Ouch micha has to cough up 25 big ones

 

Pompeys12thMan is preparing to transfer just over £2k from the £3k we have already raised to pay the first of the legal bills that are expected to rise to £25k. - Yes, Twenty Five Thousand Pounds!!

 

Micah could lose everything. That's simply not fair on someone who simply exposed the truth. He needs our help, all our help. There are tens of thousands of Pompey fans all over the world. A couple of ££'s each to help save one of our own!

 

Please, please give what you can. Every pound really will help.

 

The legions of Pompey fans raised a mighty £3k so he's only got to find the remaining £22k now....

 

Why aren't the local businesses helping him out? After all, Pompey's mere existence benefits them to the tune of £300m annually...

 

p.s. and why are they only transferring £2k of the £3k collected....?

Edited 12 November, 2013 by trousers

[andysstuff]

..

 

p.s. and why are they only transferring £2k of the £3k collected....?

 

Expenses innit.

[stevegrant]

Why doesn't he just offer to pay 0.4p in the pound over the next 5 years?

[rallyboy]

portsmyth - the 2013 international city of begging.

 

And all because a bloke cherrypicked and carefully edited the investigative highlights of this thread.

 

We really ought to chip in.

How about we organise a fundraising match but cancel it due to lack of support - or have a mass walkout and boo our own players at SMS like we do most weeks?

We could get the council to give us land and we could sell it for £20M.

Or maybe we could have a sponsored dock strike, hand over a big cheque, but keep the money and spend it on prossies?

 

Hopefully Europe's leading pudding-basin-hairstyled journo will make enough money from his ongoing indepth investigative project on the Trust board.

Should be in the shops anyday now.

 

Though I do fear another plucky child with a solitary tear of blue hope appeal might hit the media sometime soon...please support the man who exposed all the amazing facts about child-maimers, money-laundering, and the mafia - he wants your cash, and not stuff stolen from pensioners or 1p in the pound, he wants the lot.

 

Then again if you've already chucked a grand down the fatpipes $hitter for no return, what's another few quid?

 

Another pompey-related minor crisis that was entirely predictable.

[View From The Top]

I hope they take the c**ts house on Xmas eve.

[St Chalet]

It seemed that Woodward (to Neil Allen's Bernstein) has fallen foul of entering into a CFA with his firm. More commonly known as no win, no fee.

 

Law firms use this to get cases from the potless who wouldn't normally have recourse to law. Can't remember the outcome of the case but usually the winner recovers the costs from the losers, with a bonus premium for their risk.

 

It seems that Nadaj has done a Pompey on the debt leaving the simpleton with a moral but financially crippling victory.

 

As he is the person who is now signing off all the commercial deals at Fatpipes this is surely just teeing up absolute gutlaughs for us Nutjobs for years to come.

[andysstuff]

It's just horrid when people don't pay their debts isn't it.

[OldNick]

I hope they take the c**ts house on Xmas eve.

Harsh, but....

[OldNick]

True to form ' why can't someone else pay it '

[Torres]

"I suspect in the circumstances he may be able to come to some agreement with them to shave some off."

 

These circumstances being what is entirely normal on Portsmouth, presumably.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

I have a little respect for this guy despite the fact he is a Skate. He did put his head above the parapet, he did take on the money men and he was right. I want Pompey to disappear into the non-league forever but I can't help thinking he did at least have the balls.

[mack rill]

True to form ' why can't someone else pay it '

 

Yer like the club he was helping to save!

[OldNick]

Yer like the club he was helping to save!

That is the most novel idea yet. Pompey pay some debt, and add to that someone else's !! Mack you normally put an un-usual almost fantastical ideas but. Pompey actually coughing up lol. If. Pompey coughed up Phlegm they'd expect someone else to swallow it

Edited 12 November, 2013 by OldNick

[johnnyboy]

I have a little respect for this guy despite the fact he is a Skate. He did put his head above the parapet, he did take on the money men and he was right. I want Pompey to disappear into the non-league forever but I can't help thinking he did at least have the balls.

 

100% this . A brave man but still a skate !

[trousers]

@officialpompey: GOAL: Newport 2 (Oshilaja 18) #Pompey 0

 

[Ric]

Ahh, it seems that the JPT is rapidly returning to being the worthless paintpot trophy that they didn't want to win anyway...

 

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[trousers]

@pn_neil_allen: Absolutely shocking opening 35 minutes from #Pompey, could easily be more than 2-0 down. All over the place in defence and midfield.

[Shroppie]

3 0. Obviously a pointless trophy

[andysstuff]

And against 10 men too.

[The9]

I knew my entrenching myself as a Newportonian on this thread (and occasional Newport County attendee, I've seen them 4 times this season) would come in handy on here at some point - a midweek trip "home" with Skates all around me on the journey would have been far above and beyond, so I gave this one a miss and barely paid it any attention, tbh.

 

County had a few reserves playing, including the keeper, and had their captain sent off with 20 minutes left, before scoring the third.

 

I am giving it large now. As one of my mates has just said, it's cruel that Newport have robbed Pompey the chance to take 85,000 to the Final of the JPT.

[The9]

Oh, and

 

Argus on County ‏@argusoncounty 27m

County fans enjoying themselves with chants of 'ole' as the ten men pass the ball round Pompey

[saint si]

Presumably they are concentrating on finishing in the top 4, as they were dead certs to win the JPT I thought?

[dronskisaint]

Oh dear...more cash projections bite the dust...roll on the next administration!

[The9]

Presumably they are concentrating on finishing in the top 4, as they were dead certs to win the JPT I thought?

 

What makes me laugh about that, is that aside from the team they just lost 3-0 to, the other 3 southern semi-finalists are Peterborough, Stevenage and Swindon, who are 3rd, 7th and 19th in the league above them, with the lowest ranked of those being the side that just knocked them out of the FA Cup.

[rallyboy]

you're right Mr D, the real blow is to cashflow.

 

A home tie in the FA Cup + a big 3rd Rd tie + a semi final in the JPT would have covered their annual wagebill, or at least a chunk of the debts.

 

 

Missed opportunities - and about £40M lost to the local economy.

[TopGun]

http://m.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/bradley-backs-pompey-quality-to-overcome-rivals-newport-1-5672683

 

'Bradley backs Pompey quality to overcome rivals Newport.'

 

And there was me sweating that Neil Allen and Sonny Bradley knew something we didn't...

Edited 12 November, 2013 by TopGun

[stevegrant]

It seems that Nadaj has done a Pompey on the debt leaving the simpleton with a moral but financially crippling victory.

Not a proven victory, IIRC, the case was never heard.

 

Considering the fact that Nadaj has ****ed off without paying his legal bill, why hasn't Hall reinstated his blog posts?

[Saint in Paradise]

I hope they take the c**ts house on Xmas eve.

 

Sorry but I can't agree with you about him losing his family home even though he is a skate.

That £25,000 is peanuts compared with the hundreds of millions that have "gone away" over

the years. Also IF,as some on here claim that he got his info from this thread, then some on

here should perhaps be be grateful that They weren't chased by the person who went after Micha.

Edited 13 November, 2013 by Saint in Paradise

[hutch]

Sorry but I can't agree with you about him losing his family home even though he is a skate.

That £25,000 is peanuts compared with the hundreds of millions that have "gone away" over

the years. Also IF,as some on here claim that he got his info from this thread, then some on

here should perhaps be be grateful that They weren't chased by the person who went after Micha.

He went way too far in the last month or so of his "campaign", egged on by the idiot masses on Portsea. He went much further than we did on here, it was pretty obvious that somebody would shut him up.

 

He was lucky it was only a law suit.

 

I've got no sympathy. He could have written one single letter to make this all go away. He alone decided to gamble his family's security on a maverick pitch to get himself catapulted onto the Pompey board, and it backfired. He has to pay the price. Like most of the problems down that way, where he is today was perfectly predictable and avoidable.

[warsash saint]

Gotta love Guy's comments on Solent this morning .... still pedalling the myth that plucky P*mpey only lost because Newport raised their game because of who they were playing

[holepuncture]

He went way too far in the last month or so of his "campaign", egged on by the idiot masses on Portsea. He went much further than we did on here, it was pretty obvious that somebody would shut him up.

 

He was lucky it was only a law suit.

 

I've got no sympathy. He could have written one single letter to make this all go away. He alone decided to gamble his family's security on a maverick pitch to get himself catapulted onto the Pompey board, and it backfired. He has to pay the price. Like most of the problems down that way, where he is today was perfectly predictable and avoidable.

 

Abolutely, these chaps trade in the currency of revolvers:

 

Alexander Antonov - Shot in a Moscow street

German Gorbuntsov - Ally of the Antonovs, fled Russia only to be gunned down outside his Canary Wharf home - in intensive care and a coma

Vladimir Antonov - Travelled in bullet proof cars

Hussain Ahmad Najadi, the father of Pascal Najadi (prospective skate owner and Micha Hall suer) - Shot dead in Kuala Lumpur

 

And the most recent development of all things involving skate finance:

 

Sergei Polonsky - Owner of Miramax Group, fled Russia in Antonov esque style to Cambodia, the Cambodian authorities tried to arrest him, he fled, swam to a jungle only to give himself up after the Cambodia authorities opened indiscriminate fire into the jungle

 

The link to pompey?

 

Antonov has swapped bad assets of Snoras for Sergei Polonsky’s former Mirax (now Nazvanie.net) frozen development projects in Moscow that have high liquidity. The move enabled Polonsky to siphon off most of the money of defrauded shareholders and creditors into his foreign accounts. It is now a headache of Russian and Lithuanian authorities to fix the problem.

 

...

 

By 2010 Polonsky and his Mirax Group had already gone bankrupt. The debt of his companies was estimated from $600 million to $1 billion. Former oligarch dreamt about saving at list part of his wealth and moving the assets abroad. He was open to any proposals, including that of most suspicious nature. This was common ground for talks between Antonov and Polonsky. They discussed the scam first in London, than in Antonov’s private chalet in Switzerland. The sides discussed the details of large-scale fraud.

 

Under the agreements reached by Polonsky and Antonov, Snoras swapped the securities of front companies for the ownership rights over developments, run by Mirax Group in Moscow (Dubrovskaya Sloboda, Mirax Park and Kutuzovskays Milya residential complexes, and Federation tower in Moscow-City business centre). Through his connections in the Staff of the Russian Federation President Polonsky received permission to strike share pledge agreements with the third party - the front companies, which Antonov had used to move money from his bank. After all, Polonsky sold his developments and got money, which had been siphoned off from Snoras.

 

Antonov, Gorbuntsov and Polonsky were the founders of the Antonov banking empire (starting with Akademchembank), the Russian Railways deal and the inevitable gangland fallout we are seeing now.

 

I think we are still due to see performances from Pyotr Chuvilin and Sergei Mendeleyev, suspects in former assassination attempts on those named above, and also implcated in the trading of bank shareholdings with those above (investbank for example).

 

FAO Micha and #factless, here is a nice blog for you:

 

http://thefinanser.co.uk/fsclub/2012/11/how-the-russian-mafia-use-the-banking-system-including-britains.html

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9165107/Russian-banker-was-with-mystery-blonde-when-shot.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120433/German-Gorbuntsov-shooting-Alexander-Antonov-warns-Russian-terrorism-arrived-Britain.html

http://www.rumafia.com/news.php?id=453

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/vladimir-antonov-withdraws-from-investbank-118100444.html

[hutch]

Gotta love Guy's comments on Solent this morning .... still pedalling the myth that plucky P*mpey only lost because Newport raised their game because of who they were playing

Raised it so far that 10 of Newport's first team couldn't stand the strain and had to be rested?

[100%Red&White]

Oh dear...more cash projections bite the dust...roll on the next administration!

 

Time to dust off this again?

 

[rallyboy]

re the legal stuff - the majority of the info hailed by the few as investigative golddust had already been highlighted on here and dismissed as jealous scummah myths.

But most posters didn''t cross the clear legal lines and follow up links with rash claims, because they realised it could get them and the site into trouble.

Or shot.

 

 

If however you don't have knowledge of journalism and the law, and your priority was to blacken the name of business opponents on behalf of a consortium, you might be less concerned about the ramifications of what you publish.

 

It's all in the wording Paradise.

I rarely actually name people or get too specific, even though you might have your own ideas about who I mean.

 

For instance, if someone hadn't been charged with serious offences and perhaps spoke English, I wouldn't go too heavy on the money-laundering and pensioner theft references.

That approach protects myself, and Mr Grant who publishes it - I'm sure he has to pull the occasional posts that do cross the line and attract the attention that other sites seem to have embraced.

As pointed out, it could have gone away, but it was part of a PR campaign, and one that worked.

 

The other approach is the safety in numbers policy - see Redknapp.

Personally I'm wary of what I say, but his legal people would need ten years to deal with Twitter alone.

 

 

More people should follow my approach.

I abducted a legal expert a couple of years ago and have them on 24 hour duty shackled next to me here in the shed, ready to offer advice - but it's not all work.

We mainly drink bovril and eat crisps.

And talk about steam engines.

[mightysaints]

Must be a load of lies or they would not have gotten through the Fit and proper owners test LOL

Abolutely, these chaps trade in the currency of revolvers:

 

Alexander Antonov - Shot in a Moscow street

German Gorbuntsov - Ally of the Antonovs, fled Russia only to be gunned down outside his Canary Wharf home - in intensive care and a coma

Vladimir Antonov - Travelled in bullet proof cars

Hussain Ahmad Najadi, the father of Pascal Najadi (prospective skate owner and Micha Hall suer) - Shot dead in Kuala Lumpur

 

And the most recent development of all things involving skate finance:

 

Sergei Polonsky - Owner of Miramax Group, fled Russia in Antonov esque style to Cambodia, the Cambodian authorities tried to arrest him, he fled, swam to a jungle only to give himself up after the Cambodia authorities opened indiscriminate fire into the jungle

 

The link to pompey?

 

 

 

Antonov, Gorbuntsov and Polonsky were the founders of the Antonov banking empire (starting with Akademchembank), the Russian Railways deal and the inevitable gangland fallout we are seeing now.

 

I think we are still due to see performances from Pyotr Chuvilin and Sergei Mendeleyev, suspects in former assassination attempts on those named above, and also implcated in the trading of bank shareholdings with those above (investbank for example).

 

FAO Micha and #factless, here is a nice blog for you:

 

http://thefinanser.co.uk/fsclub/2012/11/how-the-russian-mafia-use-the-banking-system-including-britains.html

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9165107/Russian-banker-was-with-mystery-blonde-when-shot.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120433/German-Gorbuntsov-shooting-Alexander-Antonov-warns-Russian-terrorism-arrived-Britain.html

http://www.rumafia.com/news.php?id=453

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/vladimir-antonov-withdraws-from-investbank-118100444.html