anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Now I've washed out the sick bucket, I'm thinking that there is a lower age limit for 'share' holders, isn't there? The club had already been saved. So this little chap's pocket money is basically going straight to working capital - effectively £5 a week to Patrick Agyemang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essruu Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Of the £5 he received each week from his parents, he opted to put every single penny towards the Pompey 12th Man campaign to buy Pompey Supporters’ Trust shares in the club. To date, Alfie has raised £284, which has already bought two £100 part-shares in the 12th Man syndicate, with a third closing in fast. So: From his weekly £5 pocket money, he put EVERY SINGLE PENNY towards the begging bowl; and, to date that is £284. Hmmmm, Factless Mathless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Be fair, they're only 50 or so places below Brighton. And Bournemouth. They could easily make that up in a couple of decades. Not quite sure about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkster Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Portsmouth Football Club Statement PUBLISHED 11:00 25th August 2013 by Portsmouth FC http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/news/article/pfc-statement-240813-1011476.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkster Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Pompey pay back £1.45m loan to the city council http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/pompey-pay-back-1-45m-loan-to-the-city-council-1-5424995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 I suppose when the team is such a dog****e cluster **** you have to look for stories. Cracking effort Neil! http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/opinion/the-seven-year-old-who-helped-save-pompey-1-5421121 That Pompey are happily taking the pocket money off 7 year olds to pay footballers wages disgusts me. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Income/expenditure? Paying back 1.45 million loan to council? Current shortfall? All sounds a little fishy to me:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Portsmouth Football Club Statement PUBLISHED 11:00 25th August 2013 by Portsmouth FC http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/news/article/pfc-statement-240813-1011476.aspxi don't know why but I get the feeling that something doesn't add up here. Is it the usual ducking and diving ?Perhaps wool being pulled over the publics eyes. FloridaMarlins post is interesting and Pompeys statement just saying the loan had been paid and no figures mentioned was a bit odd. I would have thought the politicians would do anything to suppress any bad news regarding the loan and may look for ways of cloaking the true story. Too many staked their reputation on it, and the pie girlMP has said little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 i don't know why but I get the feeling that something doesn't add up here. Is it the usual ducking and diving ?Perhaps wool being pulled over the publics eyes. FloridaMarlins post is interesting and Pompeys statement just saying the loan had been paid and no figures mentioned was a bit odd. I would have thought the politicians would do anything to suppress any bad news regarding the loan and may look for ways of cloaking the true story. Too many staked their reputation on it, and the pie girlMP has said little Why? And, why are you worried? This is good news! After years and years of financial mismanagement, Pompey have finally paid back a loan. Isn't this what we all wanted? Pompey to pay their way? Admittedly it needs the parachute payments from the Premier League to pay back a League 2 debt, but surely it shows some sore of responsibility? If there is anything that doesn't add up with this statement - and that will be a first! - it will be apparent in the financial statement when published. [/nobhead neil mode] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 Why? And, why are you worried? This is good news! After years and years of financial mismanagement, Pompey have finally paid back a loan. Isn't this what we all wanted? Pompey to pay their way? Admittedly it needs the parachute payments from the Premier League to pay back a League 2 debt, but surely it shows some sore of responsibility? If there is anything that doesn't add up with this statement - and that will be a first! - it will be apparent in the financial statement when published. [/nobhead neil mode]i agree that if the loan has been paid back in full then it needs to be applauded. Just reading the Pompey statement, that is very short and with no detail, I get suspicious. Add to that FloridaMarlins post, he does have some good sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert1979 Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 That article is fantastic.....like a parody of a parody of a parody of a parody of a parody of a parody of a parody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/pompey-pay-back-1-45m-loan-to-the-city-council-1-5424995 I think the council leader is quite clear. "But every single penny has been repaid and that’s great" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/pompey-pay-back-1-45m-loan-to-the-city-council-1-5424995 I think the council leader is quite clear. "But every single penny has been repaid and that’s great" Good, that's OK then. This particular story will never raise its ugly head again. Will it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 August, 2013 Share Posted 26 August, 2013 (edited) I guess we'll see one of the charges on the club removed from Companies House website now? Also, weren't they due to pay back some money to one of their other benefactors this month? Robinson? Edited 26 August, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 the club had already been saved. So this little chap's pocket money is basically going straight to working capital - effectively £5 a week to patrick agyemang. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 Good, that's OK then. This particular story will never raise its ugly head again. Will it? Having had some personal experience of the 'influence' wielded by that particular council, I am disinclined to believe the report. I do believe that if there is something to hide then there will be enormous pressure to suppress any 'leak'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 I guess we'll see one of the charges on the club removed from Companies House website now? Also, weren't they due to pay back some money to one of their other benefactors this month? Robinson? you need to recharge your phone Trousers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 How have they got on in the Cup tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 27 August, 2013 Share Posted 27 August, 2013 http://fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=509595 Who is going to break it to them that there are another 3 charges against fratton park over and above The council and Mr Robinson....... Oh and on the note of Mr Robinson, it seems he is being paid in 12 installments, if I read s maskell's post correctly. So with council, Robinson and the PFA, I make that three charges - Anyone know who the other two charges are for? It couldn't be, nah it really couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 I see another hitler movie dub comming on.... Vot do you mean vee paid zee debt on time? !!! Did vee not pay 2% of 20%? Who knew about zis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 I thought they had delayed Robinson for a while, but it looks like they owe him about £100K a month? It doesn't sound much until you equate that to match tickets, and take into account the summer. But with this new policy of fans paying off the debts, the real losers are the big-hearted and rosy-cheeked urchins. Plucky little Alfie won't be seeing pocket money until the year 6628. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 MORTGAGE DETAILS Company Number:07940335 Company Name:PORTSMOUTH COMMUNITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED Number of Charges: 5 (5 outstanding / 0 part satisfied / 0 satisfied) The following details relate to all outstanding and part-satisfied charges for the company together with charges satisfied since 01/01/1987. Charges are displayed with the oldest first. View charges from: to: Satisfied Charge code: 0794 0335 0001 Charge status: Outstanding Person(s) entitled: PORTSMOUTH CITY COUNCIL Created: 19/04/2013 Delivered: 24/04/2013Form Type: MR01 Description of property or undertaking:F/H FRATTON PARK FROGMORE ROAD SOUTHSEA T/NO HP375034 CONTAINS FIXED CHARGE. CONTAINS FLOATING CHARGE. FLOATING CHARGE COVERS ALL THE PROPERTY OR UNDERTAKING OF THE COMPANY. NOTIFICATION OF ADDITION TO OR AMENDMENT OF CHARGE. Charge code: 0794 0335 0002 Charge status: Outstanding Person(s) entitled: SOUTH POINT FINANCE LIMITED Created: 19/04/2013 Delivered: 25/04/2013Form Type: MR01 Description of property or undertaking:FRATTON PARK, FROGMORE ROAD, SOUTHSEA T/NO HP375034 CONTAINS FIXED CHARGE. CONTAINS FLOATING CHARGE. FLOATING CHARGE COVERS ALL THE PROPERTY OR UNDERTAKING OF THE COMPANY. NOTIFICATION OF ADDITION TO OR AMENDMENT OF CHARGE. Charge code: 0794 0335 0003 Charge status: Outstanding Person(s) entitled: THE PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLERS' ASSOCIATION Created: 19/04/2013 Delivered: 27/04/2013Form Type: MR01 Description of property or undertaking:NA NOTIFICATION OF ADDITION TO OR AMENDMENT OF CHARGE. Charge code: 0794 0335 0004 Charge status: Outstanding Person(s) entitled: THE PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLERS' ASSOCIATION Created: 19/04/2013 Delivered: 27/04/2013Form Type: MR01 Description of property or undertaking:NA NOTIFICATION OF ADDITION TO OR AMENDMENT OF CHARGE. Charge code: 0794 0335 0005 Charge status: Outstanding Person(s) entitled: THE PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLERS ASSOCIATION Created: 20/04/2013 Delivered: 26/04/2013Form Type: MR01 Description of property or undertaking:F/H PROPERTY KNOWN AS PORTSMOUTH FOOTBALL CLUB, FRATTON PARK, FROGMORE ROAD, SOUTHSEA, T/NO: HP375034 SEE IMAGE FOR FULL DETAILS CONTAINS FIXED CHARGE. NOTIFICATION OF ADDITION TO OR AMENDMENT OF CHARGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 There's something almost poetic about half a dozen professional footballers reaching retirement age and finding out that they actually own their own football stadium, isn't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 How have they got on in the Cup tonight? There were no paint pot matches last night. Good to see the council loan paid back, with interest. I wonder what the council will do with the money earned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 There were no paint pot matches last night. Good to see the council loan paid back, with interest. I wonder what the council will do with the money earned? Lend it back to Pompey the next day? Nah that would be too underhand even for them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/pompey-pay-back-1-45m-loan-to-the-city-council-1-5424995 I think the council leader is quite clear. "But every single penny has been repaid and that’s great" What about the pounds, have they been repaid too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 (edited) http://www.theuksportsnetwork.com/interview-with-micah-hall-how-portsmouth-fc-are-leading-the-way-in-fan-engagement Portsmouth FC are certainly the ‘club of the moment’ when it comes to fan engagement and the integration of new technologies. The traumatised club is heading back-to-basics and taking the club back to the fans. I got in touch with Micah Hall, the clubs Engagement Manager, to find out more about their philosophy, strategy and intentions for the 2013-2014 season. In November last year, Micah was one of several thousand who parted with £1,000 to gain control of a stricken club, on the verge of imploding. This makes Portsmouth the largest community-owned club in Britain. "Our experience is an interesting one because we are a club that has 200,000 current customers and had 250,000 fans activated on Southsea Common when we brought home the FA Cup, not to mention the huge number which also lined the route." "We have had 30,000 plus crowds when our stadium could hold them. In many ways we are a Premier League club with a vast catchment area, but our stadium is League One and our resources very much League Two. We have a very tight line to walk between driving a personal experience and still retaining that big club feel.” Edited 28 August, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 "We have had 30' date='000 plus crowds when our stadium could hold them[/b']. In many ways we are a Premier League club with a vast catchment area, but our stadium is League One and our resources very much League Two. We have a very tight line to walk between driving a personal experience and still retaining that big club feel.” How long ago was that!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 How long ago was that!!!? 1953 was the last time they averaged over 30,000. To put that into perspective Preston North End also averaged over 30,000 then as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 There's something almost poetic about half a dozen professional footballers reaching retirement age and finding out that they actually own their own football stadium, isn't there? Kitson and the boys can sit back knowing they have a charge on fatpipes, the skates have to service these debts just like they serviced Chinnys debts... oh. Lampitt did well to get himself onto a super creditor status and get the hell out with his bundles of cash.. poor old Kitson and the lot may end up in the fight over the scrap value of fatpipes post liquidation. The Lampitt and Cotteril legacy of quality over quantity lives on, with their legally binding charges securing that legacy for many years to come. Though I must say, I do miss old Chinny. On a point of nostalgia, I cant seem to find any update on what happened to Vladimir Antonovs extradition case, the hearing should have been in July. His twitter account mentions Mr. Mendeleev, attached to this report (No news articles on Sergey Mendeleev on google): https://twitter.com/vladantonov1975 http://www.delfi.lv/biznes/finances/kpmg-baltics-dokumenty-kotorye-priveli-k-bankrotstvu-krajbanka-ne-byli-poddelnymi.d?id=43323291 KPMG Baltics categorically rejects the assertion that the decision to initiate insolvency proceedings Latvijas Krājbanka was taken on the basis of documents which may have been forged. The administrator says that the insolvency of Latvijas Krājbankas come because of physical disability, and the unavailability of funds, resulting in the bank is no longer able to pay with their customers. That is why the Riga City Council and the Commission on Financial and Capital Markets filed a claim for a bank failure. The administrator of the bank has not taken any decision on the basis of documents which may have been forged. Quite the contrary - perhaps because of false documents and illegal actions of the former management and owners of the bank huge sums of money stuck on correspondent accounts with foreign banks, which was the reason to stop the activities of the bank. Therefore, the administrator asked the law enforcement agencies, which have already started criminal proceedings, to assess these possible illegal activities and bring those responsible to justice. In addition, the administrator of the bank is suing several foreign banks to return the money stuck there for an amount of more than 100 million lats. In several foreign jurisdictions begun criminal trials, and KPMG Baltics already won in the court of first instance in Ukraine, where the company fights for return-owned Latvijas Krājbanka funds in the amount of several million lats, which was stuck in the accounts of Converse. I am interested to know what happened in this story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 How long ago was that!!!? had 36000 in 1984 but that was for the visit of the mighty Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 200,000 current customers and had 250,000 fans activated on Southsea Common when we brought home the FA Cup How do you activate a fan? Are there 50000 robot Pompey fans stored in a warehouse (I almost typed 'whorehouse' then by mistake) somewhere who are turned on, booted up and programmed to march up to Southsea Common every time they win a cup? As for the 200000 current customers, it seems that way under 10% of them are turning up. The rest must need activating into giving a shlt. Micah, you are supposed to be a fan. Don't start trotting out all that management horsecrap. It makes you look like a total gimp and few of the few's supporters will understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 How do you activate a fan? Are there 50000 robot Pompey fans stored in a warehouse (I almost typed 'whorehouse' then by mistake) somewhere who are turned on, booted up and programmed to march up to Southsea Common every time they win a cup? As for the 200000 current customers, it seems that way under 10% of them are turning up. The rest must need activating into giving a shlt. Micah, you are supposed to be a fan. Don't start trotting out all that management horsecrap. It makes you look like a total gimp and few of the few's supporters will understand it. Over on POL he sounds like a right gimp the way he has handled tarmacgate and the debt affair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 28 August, 2013 Share Posted 28 August, 2013 I think the point earlier was, if the loan has been repaid in full, when is the council going to be removed from the charges? Does that take long? As for today's spin... In many ways we are a Premier League club with a vast catchment area - err, no you are not, you are two divisions below Yeovil, Doncaster and Bournemouth, in a modest catchment area, squeezed by much bigger clubs on both sides. We have a very tight line to walk between driving a personal experience and still retaining that big club feel - no you don't, you are two divisions below Yeovil, Doncaster and Bournemouth, there is no big club feel to retain. You are a small club. Maybe it's time to drop the delusions of grandeur. Though I suspect seeing what our semi-youthful team did last night to a club two divisions superior to them might stop the clamour for a return match with the scummahs anytime soon. I 8-1 would relish that fixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 that alfie blagden, or at least his mother, likes getting their names in the paper http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2361932/Teachers-denied-schoolboy-10-water-hottest-day-year-avoid-upsetting-Muslim-pupils-Ramadan.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 another excellent spot. Suddenly our little heroic football urchin's clan is exposed as fame-hungry, self-promotional, and willing to say anything to get in a paper. They're giving all his pocket money to pompey...but they can afford to splash out on bottles of water, and as well as being the mascot of pompey future he is also embroiled in the fight against creeping religious intolerance in schools and the imposition of Islamic values on the classroom. Do this busy family have any views on Syria? We need to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 not sure about syria, but she definitely has some strong views, it gets better http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/daily-mail-suckered-by-bigots.html?m=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 Top quality Nutjobbery! That is what this thread does best - journalism and research that others are either too dim to find, or too agenda-driven or easily-led to accept. That's the end of the road for the poster boy of the Trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 Sean McNally @Sean_McNally00713h This ones for the deluded skates, The difference between @SouthamptonFC and @officialpompey #SaintsFC #Pompey pic.twitter.com/li29HZQCP7 [*]Daryl ☪ @DarylPuttock50m @sean_mcnally007 @officialpompey @southamptonfc we sold out that whole stand at Wigan 2 years on the trot, you didn't even sell out #deluded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 not sure about syria, but she definitely has some strong views, it gets better http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/daily-mail-suckered-by-bigots.html?m=1 Classy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 Classy.... SWAG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 Neil Allen @pn_neil_allen16h Well, it has arrived! Feast your eyes on this fellow News syndicate members @stevebone1 @Greg_KOS_sport #Pompey pic.twitter.com/k5iANLYhQX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 @pn_neil_allen: Whittingham will discover whether he has the finances to sign Shaun Cooper on Monday, when the #Pompey boards holds its monthly meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 Classy.... Oh THANK GOD for the Trust. I am SO glad that they did not die. The LAST thing any one of the other 92 clubs in the League wants are fans like this. FFS Football is a Respectable BUSINESS these days, we don't want no Walmart families hanging round proper Football Stadiums Oh, and with fashion sense like that it makes you wonder what their POL version of Turkish must be like) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 Neil Allen @pn_neil_allen16h Well, it has arrived! Feast your eyes on this fellow News syndicate members @stevebone1 @Greg_KOS_sport #Pompey pic.twitter.com/k5iANLYhQX Well, if the recession bites into their advertising revenues and they have to reduce costs, at least that will have some value (unlike all the others issued) ' They'll be able to use it to wipe their asses on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 Classy.... Her poor kids haven't got a hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 Another photo of the beautiful Kora Blagden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 @pn_neil_allen: Whittingham will discover whether he has the finances to sign Shaun Cooper on Monday, when the #Pompey boards holds its monthly meeting. surely the super cash flow spreadsheets are up to date, why wait until Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 Appropriately for the Charles Dickens school, I also managed to find a photo of the lovely Kora's son begging to be given some water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 August, 2013 Share Posted 29 August, 2013 (edited) 1953 was the last time they averaged over 30,000. To put that into perspective Preston North End also averaged over 30,000 then as well. To put that into perspective, there wouldn't have been a person that paid to get in that day who is now under retirement age. England had never lost a home football match, the backpass law was 37 years from being implemented, Saints have two current players who wouldn't even be born for 43 years afterwards, and the Queen had her Coronation that year. Edited 29 August, 2013 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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