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anothersaintinsouthsea

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Jim appears to have conveniently forgotten that the prem money has already filtered down to the lowest tier and if it wasn't for the fact that they owed so much money to so many people it would be putting the other teams at a disadvantage!

 

Convenient how they forget their recent history in the rush to blame everyone but themselves :D

 

Just like how many of them suddenly seem to be "against modern football".

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Lets B Avenue

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Jim appears to have conveniently forgotten that the prem money has already filtered down to the lowest tier and if it wasn't for the fact that they owed so much money to so many people it would be putting the other teams at a disadvantage!

 

Convenient how they forget their recent history in the rush to blame everyone but themselves :D

 

And if it wasn't for the large amount of "money teams get for being mediocre/terrible in the prem" they would have been wound up 3 years ago.

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http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/news/article/appear-in-pompeys-team-photo-1004892.aspx

 

In fairness (in light of the footymad comments!), that would be a pretty special present for a youngster... although eating a heavily controlled and nutritional meal might not be as fun as a burger and chips!

 

My favourite part of the article:

 

All this for just £125 (including VAT)!

 

It always amuses me how they state in clear terms the VAT element, when selling products to the general public, who always pay VAT as standard. Its almost as if HMRC have told them they have to declare everything in no uncertain terms... that or the novelty of this newly discovered VAT business is yet to wear off.

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Pamplemousse

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From POL

 

Most of the scum are only there for the "glory" of watching Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea and Arsenal. They would happily play in Pompey shirts for the promise of PL football every year.

 

 

Is that why in League 1 we were getting higher attendances than when they were in the Premier League?

 

:mcinnes:

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70's Mike

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it must be tough for skates of my age, 60 next year, from 1962 until 2005 we were always better than them. They had a few good years and now it looks like they will be in the wilderness for another 40 plus years. Of course that is if they last that long with thie flexible business plan

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Gruffalo

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Lifted from the po**ey News site -

 

More good news in reference to the council loan to help secure the club.

 

According to Cllr Jason Fazackarley

 

6:35 PM on 21/08/2013

 

My apologies for not being able to respond I have been out of the office. I am now able to confirm that the loan has been repaid, as promised by the Supporters Trust and as expected by Senior Council Officers and Cabinet members.

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rallyboy

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Even the most jealous and bitter Nutjobs now HAVE to take their hats off to them.

 

That must be the first time in about 100 years, through approx five insolvency events, that pompey have actually paid a debt in full. :o

 

Just like the underwater casino - it's an astonishing development!

Congratulations to pompey fans everywhere, today you can be proud of your club.

Whatever next, sticking to a sustainable budget?

Or accepting that bigtime football has sailed off into the sunset and you've been left on the dock?

One step at a time...

 

By the way, that season ticket income was the working capital for the next few months, so good luck with the overheads and the repayment to the property developer.

 

But today isn't a time for cheap shots, it should be a day for congratulations on meeting the minimum requirement of a proper trading company for the first time in at least a decade.

It's like they are a real business.

Amazing.

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Waterside.saint

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Even the most jealous and bitter Nutjobs now HAVE to take their hats off to them.

 

That must be the first time in about 100 years, through approx five insolvency events, that pompey have actually paid a debt in full. :o

 

Just like the underwater casino - it's an astonishing development!

Congratulations to pompey fans everywhere, today you can be proud of your club.

Whatever next, sticking to a sustainable budget?

Or accepting that bigtime football has sailed off into the sunset and you've been left on the dock?

One step at a time...

 

By the way, that season ticket income was the working capital for the next few months, so good luck with the overheads and the repayment to the property developer.

 

But today isn't a time for cheap shots, it should be a day for congratulations on meeting the minimum requirement of a proper trading company for the first time in at least a decade.

It's like they are a real business.

Amazing.

 

Credit where its due.

Oh...

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Saint Lindford

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Skates exploiting people who are on Job Seekers Allowance

 

As for Portsmouth... "The club, which is now owned by its fans, told its local paper last month that it had 35 people working six and a half hours a day, amounting to a total of 3,000 hours of "painting and maintenance and general cleaning". If the jobseekers refused they would have their benefits stripped."

 

http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?p=2913

 

Boycott Workfare can reveal some of them are using workfare to avoid paying staff at all. Portsmouth FC, which went into administration following relegation, bankruptcy and debts of millions, is now owned by the fans in the shape of the Portsmouth Supporters Trust. Ironically one of its sponsors is ‘Jobsite.co.uk‘. The club is open about its use of workfare through the Mandatory Work Activity (MWA) scheme, telling a local paper:

 

“So far there have been 35 people working here over the past six weeks .They’re contracted to do 6.5 hours a day and since they’ve been here, for the past six weeks they’ve done more than 3,000 hours of painting and maintenance and general cleaning. It’s incredible.

 

Some of the painting we would do every year, but we’re painting things that haven’t seen a lick of paint in maybe 25 years”

 

The general up keep and maintenance of the club is done by people forced to work for free under threat of losing their barely subsistence benefits for a minimum of 3 months, and up to 3 years. Turns out the self-proclaimed ‘community club’ are more than happy to exploit the local unemployed community by using them to do jobs – without wages. By doing workfare at Portsmouth FC, the unemployed are effectively being used to pay off the club’s debts.

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holepuncture

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Skates exploiting people who are on Job Seekers Allowance

 

http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?p=2913

 

 

In the past the would run up huge PAYE an NI bills, then simply not bother to pay them, (inc all the VAT too) HMRC valued the tax write offs at £37m IIRC. Now, in the new era of transparency, they openly boast that they dont even bother to pay people a wage, as they have jumped on the free slave labour bandwagon.

 

In fairness they are no different to the likes of poundland who who are also exploiting vulnerable people. Its a pretty poor state of affairs as these poor chumps are supposed to be getting work experience and skills so they can hopefully obtain some meaningful paid work going forward.

 

As with poundland just getting free shelf stackers, the skates are using these poor souls to do cleaning and painting some walls, that is not beneficial to the individuals and is nothing more than a cost saving exercise and exploitation by the skates..

 

Give people some rewarding tasks and train people to do things, work with the groundsmen, the media dept, finance office.. not trying to pump the fat out of the f*cking pipes!

 

community club my a*se

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FloridaMarlin

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You can bet a few of these deluded souls volunteered willingly to help out at The People's Club.

 

What could be better from their point of view?

 

They get the chance to help bring the Theatre of Screams up to Conference standard by slapping a few coats of blue paint around, all while being paid by the taxpayer.

 

Workfare can be exploitative and should be confined to projects which benefit the whole community.

 

But you can imagine these numpties leaping at the opportunity to step through the hallowed portals.

 

In fact, some of them would PAY for the opportunity. I'm surprised p****y haven't thought of that yet, charging for the chance to plop your paint on the park (double entendre alert!)

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Pamplemousse

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Here's what POL think about the issue

 

How do you feel about Pompey's use of Workfare

Happy with it

52 vote(s) 43.0%

Don't really care

18 vote(s) 14.9%

Dead against it

51 vote(s) 42.1%

 

There are some pretty sensible comments on POL but this one is my favourite

 

Why do some people always want to and need to know the ins and out of a cats **** lets get back to talking about football and giving our new run club our full support

 

Wasn't not knowing the ins and outs of the owners the problem in the first place (but it was the football league's fault innit mush)

 

:mcinnes:

 

A typical skate head in sand response but actually those sort of comments are in a minority, to be fair to them.

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FloridaMarlin

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Possibly tangental to this thread, but confirmation that whenever and wherever there is something crooked in football, The Septic Isle is lurking in the background somewhere.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/10260721/Sven-Goran-Eriksson-I-hate-only-one-person-on-earth-the-man-who-cost-me-10-million.html

 

Halfway down the story - "Eriksson claimed that his money was lost on a range of negligent investments including a residential and leisure development of 92 flats in Southsea, Hampshire."

 

This wouldn't be the same Savoy Buildings development that 'Arry was involved in, would it?

 

There is a marked similarity in the number of flats.

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/harry-redknapp-loses-bid-to-ditch-cheap-homes-in-southsea-seafront-development-1-2805955

 

It couldn't be, could it, that there is a link between Redknapp attempting to get shot of a property development he couldn't get planning permission for and Sven being fleeced in a markedly similar development, also consisting of 92 flats in Southsea?

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even by obsessive Nutjob standards that is a VERY good spot - it has to be the same development.

 

Do we now have a personal financial link between Arry and other influential people in football?

Could there have been any 'unusual' transfer activity between Arry and people with whom he held joint investments?

Surely not...no room for mischief there.

 

Back to the present - Guy needs to speak to his boss, they seem to be working to different business plans.

 

‘The budget is not set. If there is a player and the board think it is possible and if we would like to do it then there is a possibility.

‘But it is not set in concrete that there is money there so you can go and spend it.

 

And I thought the boy from Bury said they weren't budging on wages for anyone.

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Waterside.saint

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even by obsessive Nutjob standards that is a VERY good spot - it has to be the same development.

 

Do we now have a personal financial link between Arry and other influential people in football?

Could there have been any 'unusual' transfer activity between Arry and people with whom he held joint investments?

Surely not...no room for mischief there.

 

Back to the present - Guy needs to speak to his boss, they seem to be working to different business plans.

 

‘The budget is not set. If there is a player and the board think it is possible and if we would like to do it then there is a possibility.

‘But it is not set in concrete that there is money there so you can go and spend it.

 

And I thought the boy from Bury said they weren't budging on wages for anyone.

 

This is easily explained by the septic few's adept grasp of Doublethink:

"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies – all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."

- Orwell, George (1949). Nineteen Eighty-Four. Martin Secker & Warburg Ltd, London, part 1, chapter 3, pp 32

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You can bet a few of these deluded souls volunteered willingly to help out at The People's Club.

 

What could be better from their point of view?

 

They get the chance to help bring the Theatre of Screams up to Conference standard by slapping a few coats of blue paint around, all while being paid by the taxpayer.

 

Workfare can be exploitative and should be confined to projects which benefit the whole community.

 

But you can imagine these numpties leaping at the opportunity to step through the hallowed portals.

 

In fact, some of them would PAY for the opportunity. I'm surprised p****y haven't thought of that yet, charging for the chance to plop your paint on the park (double entendre alert!)

I think if the shoe was on the other foot there would be loads of Saints fans who would happily do the same. At the end of the day those people have to do the work somewhere and so why not at the local football club. No doubt they will be hiding Pompey shirts under the centre circle and in the studwork.....better than having to wear one I suppose
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You can bet a few of these deluded souls volunteered willingly to help out at The People's Club.

 

What could be better from their point of view?

 

They get the chance to help bring the Theatre of Screams up to Conference standard by slapping a few coats of blue paint around, all while being paid by the taxpayer.

 

Workfare can be exploitative and should be confined to projects which benefit the whole community.

 

But you can imagine these numpties leaping at the opportunity to step through the hallowed portals.

 

In fact, some of them would PAY for the opportunity. I'm surprised p****y haven't thought of that yet, charging for the chance to plop your paint on the park (double entendre alert!)

I think if the shoe was on the other foot there would be loads of Saints fans who would happily do the same. At the end of the day those people have to do the work somewhere and so why not at the local football club. No doubt they will be hiding Pompey shirts under the centre circle and in the studwork.....better than having to wear one I suppose
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even by obsessive Nutjob standards that is a VERY good spot - it has to be the same development.

 

Do we now have a personal financial link between Arry and other influential people in football?

Could there have been any 'unusual' transfer activity between Arry and people with whom he held joint investments?

Surely not...no room for mischief there.

 

Back to the present - Guy needs to speak to his boss, they seem to be working to different business plans.

 

‘The budget is not set. If there is a player and the board think it is possible and if we would like to do it then there is a possibility.

‘But it is not set in concrete that there is money there so you can go and spend it.

 

And I thought the boy from Bury said they weren't budging on wages for anyone.

 

Interesting!

 

In other news, not everyone is happy about the PDT Tesco deal, would be funny if it collapsed:

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/business/local-business/hundreds-sign-petition-against-plans-for-tesco-1-5401345

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FloridaMarlin

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BBC Radio Solent are saying on Twitter the Dirty Skates have paid back their loan to the council, with interest! Just how have they managed to do that? They can't be making any money!

 

Not what I was told. A contact whose other half is a Portsmouth councillor reckons they've coughed up £415,000. Some councillors are seething, others sensing their vote going south, are advising caution and already making noises about easing the repayment, up to and including a write-off.

 

Be interesting to see which version is thrust more firmly into the public domain for consumption.

 

Also told that one member of the Trust board was approached at a dinner in London last week by a lawyer offering to oversee their next administration.

 

Cheeky punt, or has he heard something?

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Not what I was told. A contact whose other half is a Portsmouth councillor reckons they've coughed up £415,000. Some councillors are seething, others sensing their vote going south, are advising caution and already making noises about easing the repayment, up to and including a write-off.

 

Carlsberg don't do debt defaulting, but if they did..

 

I have a feeling that a FOI request might be winging its way to po**ey Civic Offices..

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I thought it was announced earlier this week that the loan had been repaid in full...

 

 

Meanwhile, I have just read something so sickly that I would fear for the wellbeing of my computer if I copied and pasted.

 

It will no doubt appear here soon, carried on a wave of blue hope....you have been warned.

Sick buckets at the ready.

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I thought it was announced earlier this week that the loan had been repaid in full...

 

 

Meanwhile, I have just read something so sickly that I would fear for the wellbeing of my computer if I copied and pasted.

 

It will no doubt appear here soon, carried on a wave of blue hope....you have been warned.

Sick buckets at the ready.

 

Does it involve a small child - I didn't even bother opening the link.

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Not what I was told. A contact whose other half is a Portsmouth councillor reckons they've coughed up £415,000. Some councillors are seething, others sensing their vote going south, are advising caution and already making noises about easing the repayment, up to and including a write-off.

 

 

I assume the Football League are aware of this potential breach of the strict conditions attached to the issuing of the 'golden share'?

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