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Warning: Contains rude words

 

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So the 'provocation' for the pitch invasion was a chant of 'That's why you're going down; 2-1 and you ferked it up'. Yep, real provocation that. (rolly eyed thingy)

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So, the BBC have gone from reporting the diluted debt figure (£61m) in the present tense to now saying its in the past:

 

"The club, who were £61m in debt..."

Amazing what you can eradicate from history with the stroke of a journo's pen...

 

I have to say that one thing I have learnt from all of this, is to treat what I read in the press, with a pinch of salt. That may be second nature to most, but previously, I would have accepted most of what the BBC, telegraph etc. published, as accurate. I don't think it anymore sinister than lazy journalism, but the level of ignorance, false information and downright bull**** that has been reported is frightening and actually a sad reflection on the press in general.

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I have to say that one thing I have learnt from all of this, is to treat what I read in the press, with a pinch of salt. That may be second nature to most, but previously, I would have accepted most of what the BBC, telegraph etc. published, as accurate. I don't think it anymore sinister than lazy journalism, but the level of ignorance, false information and downright bull**** that has been reported is frightening and actually a sad reflection on the press in general.

 

I agree entirely, but please nutjob, dont get too worked up about it... Read the lawyer/BBC quote a fews times over and you will feel brand new:

 

the great thing for Portsmouth is that it joins what is something of a south-coast renaissance for football

 

SHALALALALALA - WTFILN

 

Enjoy league 2 you filthy cheating bastards, enjoy watching champange mick and ian prancing about in the directors box, lanyards round their necks, cheap poor fitting shirts bursting at the buttons (I feel all turkish), with their 657 mob in their white trainers standing next to the official pfc trust bedsheet banner...

 

I had my usual smug checkle when washing my hands at SMS on saturday, soap, hot water, paper towels... enjoy p*ssing up your brick walls, enjoy the health and safety repair bill in the summer... and the best bit... enjoy TCWTB, he is there, there for life - FOR FREE

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So will this thread now quietly die or will we see a ressurgence next year as the PST gets it's self into even more financial trouble? I still have a sneaky feeling that interesting time await us the history of successful fan owned clubs in the UK is not great. Does anyone know of a bookie quottng odds on another administration even in 12-18 months?

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Official_Twitter_Logo_normal.jpgPortsmouth FC ‏@officialpompey22m

Tickets selling well for tomorrow's game - more than 4,000 snapped up so far #pompey

 

4,000 of the self proclaimed "bestest fans in the world!" at Fratton Park watching a fundraising game might be all together to hear the news Oldham have won and Pompey are relegated, possibly with -10 points coming in League 2.

 

If Carlsberg wrote Tuesday night football...

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Anyone seen or heard any news on the "as soon as possible" publication of the "transparent agreement" between BDO and Portpin that explains what the "add-ons" are?

 

MLG - your next mission, if you choose to accept it, is to ask the likes of Nabil Hassan (BBC Reporter) on Twitter why they haven't (seemingly) asked Birch what the delay is in publishing the agreement....

 

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4,000 of the self proclaimed "bestest fans in the world!" at Fratton Park watching a fundraising game might be all together to hear the news Oldham have won and Pompey are relegated, possibly with -10 points coming in League 2.

 

If Carlsberg wrote Tuesday night football...

 

What a beautiful scenario... chances are they will make a loss on this match if you were to absorb the weekends pitch invasion fine into the equation?

 

Its all going to turn into one great big popularity contest/power struggle... hall, farmery and factless will be jousting for the head of propaganda role as we speak.

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Anyone seen or heard any news on the "as soon as possible" publication of the "transparent agreement" between BDO and Portpin that explains what the "add-ons" are?

 

MLG - your next mission, if you choose to accept it, is to ask the likes of Nabil Hassan (BBC Reporter) on Twitter why they haven't (seemingly) asked Birch what the delay is in publishing the agreement....

 

:)

 

You mean the one that Iain McInnes said would be up on the web-site 'later today' during his web-chat on Friday? I am as amazed as you are that it hasn't appeared yet; especially given the new 'transparent' era they are now in!!

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4,000 of the self proclaimed "bestest fans in the world!" at Fratton Park watching a fundraising game might be all together to hear the news Oldham have won and Pompey are relegated, possibly with -10 points coming in League 2.

For some, relegation will be great news as they'll have a load of new grounds to visit. I was bored so worked out that since their last season in the Premier League in 09/10, if a Pompey fan went to all of their games home and away, and did the same next season, he or she would have ticked off 83 of the 92 league grounds :lol:

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For some, relegation will be great news as they'll have a load of new grounds to visit. I was bored so worked out that since their last season in the Premier League in 09/10, if a Pompey fan went to all of their games home and away, and did the same next season, he or she would have ticked off 83 of the 92 league grounds :lol:

 

That really is boredom!

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I wonder which side came up with the bulk of the wording for the agreement? You wonder if there was something hidden in there that they don't want to admit they agreed to?

 

I'm sure there's an intrepid journalist on the case as we speak. You know, ones that like a fact hunt...

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from the PST site

 

The Trust has rented Fratton Park for the evening ( how much I wonder? ) and every penny raised, after expenses, will go towards a community share in Portsmouth FC held by the Pompey Supporters' Trust.

 

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Does that mean the will put the profits towards just 'one share' or a 'larger share' of the whole thing.

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from the PST site

 

The Trust has rented Fratton Park for the evening ( how much I wonder? ) and every penny raised, after expenses, will go towards a community share in Portsmouth FC held by the Pompey Supporters' Trust.

 

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Does that mean the will put the profits towards just 'one share' or a 'larger share' of the whole thing.

 

And why do they keep calling them "shares" when their original prospectus went to great lengths to explain that they weren't shares (for the obvious legal reasons)?

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The club can't have bankrupted all local building companies, there must be one or two left.

They should drop everything and get down there immediately.

Chop-chop.

 

Community spirit, owned by the fans, fully-funded, taken the keys, biggest in world football, rubber-stamping exercise, transparent business plan, deal done, everyone else jealous etc.

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@BrentfordFC: Club statement. http://t.co/ALHfHrCiXO #brentfordfc

 

“It saddens me that some Portsmouth fans chose to take advantage having been treated like adults by both the Club and the police.

 

“We believed by welcoming Portsmouth fans in to our away end and not restricting their movement around the town they would act accordingly.

 

“I am sad that we had a return to the days when fans would act in the manner they did on Saturday and I commend Brentford fans for not reacting to provocation and causing a larger problem.

 

Bestest fans in the whole wide world...

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Anyone seen or heard any news on the "as soon as possible" publication of the "transparent agreement" between BDO and Portpin that explains what the "add-ons" are?

 

MLG - your next mission, if you choose to accept it, is to ask the likes of Nabil Hassan (BBC Reporter) on Twitter why they haven't (seemingly) asked Birch what the delay is in publishing the agreement....

 

:)

I think they're urgently bouncing it off the City Council and the Football League first. I would be amazed if it doesn't contain some elements that don't quite fit into the amended loan terms or the conditions attached to the Golden Share. My guess is that they want to publish it along with a statement that it's nothing to worry about because it's approved by PCC & the FL. If the Agreement really is £3m with no debt carried forward, which is what PCC & the FL require, then Chinny would be paying PKF's costs, not the other way round.

 

That's an awful lot to fit into 10 days.

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I think they're urgently bouncing it off the City Council and the Football League first. I would be amazed if it doesn't contain some elements that don't quite fit into the amended loan terms or the conditions attached to the Golden Share. My guess is that they want to publish it along with a statement that it's nothing to worry about because it's approved by PCC & the FL. If the Agreement really is £3m with no debt carried forward, which is what PCC & the FL require, then Chinny would be paying PKF's costs, not the other way round.

 

That's an awful lot to fit into 10 days.

 

Ok nutjobs.... Emails to the Football League duly poised to remind them of their own published term and conditions of Pompey getting the goldon share should there be any signs of rule bending when the agreement is finally published... We wouldn't want any loopholes being exploited, would we....that would be soooooo pre-Trust ownership tactics...

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/29/birmingham-city-fined-pitch-invasion-cup

 

A while ago this fine was £20k plus another £20k suspended if further occurrences happened - i wonder what the FA will dish out ?

 

 

I saw somewhere that Pemier league teams get fined 20k, Championship 10k, league one 2.5k and league two 1.5k for pitch invasions.... or figures around these.

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I think they're urgently bouncing it off the City Council and the Football League first. I would be amazed if it doesn't contain some elements that don't quite fit into the amended loan terms or the conditions attached to the Golden Share. My guess is that they want to publish it along with a statement that it's nothing to worry about because it's approved by PCC & the FL. If the Agreement really is £3m with no debt carried forward, which is what PCC & the FL require, then Chinny would be paying PKF's costs, not the other way round.

 

That's an awful lot to fit into 10 days.

as time goes on. I seems that BC may have again run rings around them. The terms to drop/withdraw from the court case seem to have been done at haste. The finer details and what it really meant could well have been lost in the wording. I fail to believe that Chanrai would have walked for 3m and some small add ons. I doubt he was going to blink first but I suppose he may have just been playing poker and left it to the last minute. To me I feel he always has the trump card
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Is it not in Chanrai's interests to string them along for 10 days or so and then use the threat of FL expulsion as a negotiating chip? What contractual force does the current agreement actually have, given that it's not finalised?

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Is it not in Chanrai's interests to string them along for 10 days or so and then use the threat of FL expulsion as a negotiating chip? What contractual force does the current agreement actually have, given that it's not finalised?
interesting take on it.
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Bit harsh of 30,000 Millwall fans to pick on a plucky arm of 12 Skates :(

 

The bit I don't get about this is that in order to get into any kind of ruck at Waterloo Station, all the Millwall fans taking the Jubilee Line to/from Wembley would have to actively choose to get off their tube trains and come out of the Tube on the off-chance that there might be some other teams' fans around, bearing in mind that their game kicked off in the evening, and Portsmouth were at Brentford for a 3pm kick off and have no need to go anywhere near Waterloo to get to and from Brentford anyway.

 

This is of course, not allowing for sizeable quantities of thickoes on both sides.

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The bit I don't get about this is that in order to get into any kind of ruck at Waterloo Station, all the Millwall fans taking the Jubilee Line to/from Wembley would have to actively choose to get off their tube trains and come out of the Tube on the off-chance that there might be some other teams' fans around, bearing in mind that their game kicked off in the evening, and Portsmouth were at Brentford for a 3pm kick off and have no need to go anywhere near Waterloo to get to and from Brentford anyway.

 

This is of course, not allowing for sizeable quantities of thickoes on both sides.

 

They do have history, Danny Baker was talking about it on the radio last week.

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That is quite a damming statement from Brentford FC - lets hope the new Trust will be taking action, I see that Newcastle are taking the correct zero tolerance approach - mind you who's to say that it was all in good taste after a bit of wind ups from both sets of supporters - Oh forgot thats the Trust and Managers view on it

 

Heres the wording from Newcastle

 

"The club will take the strongest possible action against those involved in the disturbances and will impose immediate lifetime bans on all those found guilty.

 

Still they paid their money so the fans can do what they like now after all

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I have to say that one thing I have learnt from all of this, is to treat what I read in the press, with a pinch of salt. That may be second nature to most, but previously, I would have accepted most of what the BBC, telegraph etc. published, as accurate. I don't think it anymore sinister than lazy journalism, but the level of ignorance, false information and downright bull**** that has been reported is frightening and actually a sad reflection on the press in general.

 

You want to try believing anything they write after you've been even vaguely involved in a story that gets published. We had a girl I knew and a male work colleague die in a car crash when I was working for my previous employers, they worked on the same team and were heading to our Titchfield office for a meeting.

 

The local paper, based all of half a mile from our offices, in the space of two paragraphs misreported that he was "a local businessman" (civil servant in an admin role), that he was her boss and she was his secretary/PA (they were doing the same job), and also, based on the knowledge that they were driving in the evening for a morning meeting, managed to imply there was something seedy going on between them because they had an hotel booked. It was hard enough for the widow and the family of the girl without the paper making up a load of crap as well.

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They do have history, Danny Baker was talking about it on the radio last week.

 

I know they have history, so what though ? You still have to be some kind of massive loser to actively interrupt a trip to Wembley for a ruck with a bunch of people who may not even be there from a club with whom there is no remote interest.

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Ok nutjobs.... Emails to the Football League duly poised to remind them of their own published term and conditions of Pompey getting the Folsom share should there be any signs of rule bending when the agreement is finally published... We wouldn't want any loopholes being exploited, would we....that would be soooooo pre-Trust ownership tactics...

 

Careful now, the FL themselves have clearly stated the -10 will be THIS season, without qualification.

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just when you think it's all been explained I ran into a thick dinosaur tonight who tried to tell me that Man Utd and Real Madrid are EXACTLY the same as pompey because they have debt too. :o

 

Skatosaurus followed up that gem with Saints wrote off millions as well and even if a few businesses got raped by pompey, it isn't the fans fault at all.

This from a bloke who has been all over the cup win and the 4-1 like Avram at a prossie convention.

 

I give up.

Some people are simply beyond educating.

It's like trying to explain the 2nd phase of offside to a tree.

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For some, relegation will be great news as they'll have a load of new grounds to visit. I was bored so worked out that since their last season in the Premier League in 09/10, if a Pompey fan went to all of their games home and away, and did the same next season, he or she would have ticked off 83 of the 92 league grounds :lol:

 

That really is boredom!

 

The scary thing is had I not being doing... something or other... last week, I'd have had a look as well.

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just when you think it's all been explained I ran into a thick dinosaur tonight who tried to tell me that Man Utd and Real Madrid are EXACTLY the same as pompey because they have debt too. :o

 

Skatosaurus followed up that gem with Saints wrote off millions as well and even if a few businesses got raped by pompey, it isn't the fans fault at all.

This from a bloke who has been all over the cup win and the 4-1 like Avram at a prossie convention.

 

I give up.

Some people are simply beyond educating.

It's like trying to explain the 2nd phase of offside to a tree.

 

To be fair this is only post number 87401, maybe we need to restate the answers to these questions ?

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Careful now, the FL themselves have clearly stated the -10 will be THIS season, without qualification.

Yep, but I wasn't referring to the points deduction - I was referring to them potentially flexing the conditions the FL imposed for their very existence...

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Is it not in Chanrai's interests to string them along for 10 days or so and then use the threat of FL expulsion as a negotiating chip? What contractual force does the current agreement actually have, given that it's not finalised?

The deal is finalised, it is now a Court Order, signed & sealed. It's a Consent Order, normal for out of court settlements.

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