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rallyboy

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Cheer up!

 

yep, they beat Crewe - glorious.

Get the open topped bus out.....AND order some streamers!

Tonight they're going to party like it's 1899.

 

And on the liquidation thing, the reason they are still alive is that they keep conning people that they will clear debt, then they don't pay it.

Companies, clubs, players - they have all agreed debt repayments as a favour and on every occasion they have been shafted.

 

One could suggest they are idiots, one and all.

Any creditor that voted for a raping deserves it.

 

As for worst day ever - we had best day ever a couple of weeks back, swings and roundabouts - we had four months playing on the swings, they've had one day sat on a roundabout in Crewe town centre.

 

Finally, looks like only one team will make progress on us today, meaning three beneath us have missed a golden opportunity.

:)

 

 

 

And there's Mack, the only bloke in pompey who loves Arry...or does he?...

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CB Fry

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If the club had been liquidated it would have been houses now. Barclays and Aviva would not have needed to save a football club

 

 

Yeah. Like that would have happened. Can just see the demolition of Saints five year old football stadium being waved through a Southampton City Council meeting. Just a simple rubber stamp exersize. Breezed through it would have.

 

Christ.

 

Seriously you are one of the biggest fantasists on this forum.

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Crab Lungs

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As said above, his own blog host got the typical Pompey brush off last week when he got himself (and them) in trouble. Can't say it hasn't been coming.

 

I'm sure the frothy mouthed skates will start abusing and intimidating people about this soon...

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trousers

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As said above, his own blog host got the typical Pompey brush off last week when he got himself (and them) in trouble. Can't say it hasn't been coming.

 

I'm sure the frothy mouthed skates will start abusing and intimidating people about this soon...

 

They started 3 hours ago on Twitter...

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eurosaint

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@joemichalczuk: Oh. And before we all go to bed? Can't wait for people to sue mike hall for every penny he's got. No one has done more to ruin it for fans

 

It's a dangerous game this Skate bashing lark !

Best just to stick to p!sstaking rather than full blown liable and slander methinks !

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287250/Arsenal-set-1-5bn-takeover-Middle-Esat-consortium.html

 

:facepalm:

 

What an EPIC fail that article is.

 

Qataris already own another leading Premier League side, Manchester City, who are bankrolled by billionaire Sheik Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan

 

 

Another Qatari, Sheik Mansour (middle), is in charge at Arsenal's rivals, Manchester City

 

 

That is about as Diplomatic as calling Cameron the UKIP President of France

 

Or TCWTB as well groomed

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rallyboy

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While I'd have sympathy for any blogger who tried to expose wrongdoing which damages their club, that's not how I see the case here.

 

 

Joking aside, there is clearly a PR campaign orchestrated by the Trust, embraced by the local paper and bloggers alike, and they have all tried to define the current ownership dispute as black and white.

Harris bad, Trust good.

That is the message being firmly rammed down everyone's throats.

 

Some might observe that this fresh appetite for investigative journalism in pompey has been VERY selective, as well as a massive U-turn.

They are years behind in embracing this type of work.

 

The Trust is portrayed as beyond question, and those that point out any issues, or ask about HNWI's track records have been shouted down, threatened, or vilified online.

The Harris bid is the target, no one on the other side has been investigated - presumably as that would be off message.

 

Despite nutjobbery aplenty exposing previous pompey regimes on here over 1712 pages, there was none of this blogging when things were rosy.

 

No one to the east was interested in the business history of the child-maimer, the mafia, or the loan shark.

Investigate journalism and blogging was dismissed and suppressed, no pompey fan wanted to hear it.

They were winning games, their owners were lovely people, heroes, it didn't matter where the money came from.

 

But now the new agenda demands that we all embrace these wonderful pieces of inspired journalism.

Previously it was just the work of jealous nutjobs, now it's the work of informed and respected investigators - because that fits nicely into the Trust's PR message.

 

It's a media campaign that glosses over the clear fact that this is no longer a fan buyout, it is now a property-developing consortium trying to secure a bargain at the expense of creditors, with a minority financial interest from fans.

Spin, spin, spin.

It's a cartoon soap opera for the easily-led to embrace and enjoy.

Harris and Chanrai the panto villains - the Trust, bravely battling the forces of evil.

Give the people what they want to hear, and keep it simple for them, black and white.

 

 

And when people tell me that the blogs have been really well researched, yes, I've read every page on this thread too, and that's where half of this amazing research started life.

 

So I'd have little sympathy if a thinly-veiled press release overstepped the legal boundaries purely to promote the plans of property developers.

 

Whereas a group who tried to drive criminals out of a club so it can be reclaimed by people who want to clear debt and return the club to the community would be a fantastic enterprise and worthy of support.

 

But no one is writing about a plan like that.

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hypochondriac

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And a lovely POL post:

 

I can only assume Joe is a lover of dangerous sports if he thinks he and daddy are really going to go to FP in the future. The memory of his words are going to live long with supporters a whole lot angrier with him than I. I actually heard people talking about him at the game yesterday and he is despised and seen to be a Portpin stooge. Yesterday put to bed any thoughts that he is the voice of no one except Chainrai. Silly boy.
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OldNick

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Yeah. Like that would have happened. Can just see the demolition of Saints five year old football stadium being waved through a Southampton City Council meeting. Just a simple rubber stamp exersize. Breezed through it would have.

 

Christ.

 

Seriously you are one of the biggest fantasists on this forum.

of course you are one of the brightest and well informed people around lol. If the club had been liquidated you think the stadium would still have been there now? A Phoenix club would not have been able to fund a stadium of such grandeur, I assume you believe then that a SOuthampton conference team would have supported a 35k seater stadium, that the owners of said stadium would not have got the very best people to get the stadium developed into housing or a business park. The city council would have to look at the situation and in time it would have happened. Sheffield city council have just shown that when push comes to shove a stadium will be sacrificed
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OldNick

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Nothing better than watching a Tennis Match.

 

Advantage Old Nick, CBF to serve

not much of a match, as patently CB is of such a superior being a mere mortal like myself will not be able to cope with his withering array of returns, they may fly over our heads and out of the court but he would still think he was winning.

 

If only some of the facts re how close we were to be wound up could have been in the open forum but I respect that it is not possible.

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Anyone else just heard the Pompey fan on 606 ??

 

He feels good about the future because the club is about to be owned by the community through the PST. By start of next season it will be all sorted out and they will be in League 2playing before crowds of 12 - 13 thousand.

 

Alan Green wished him well and explained that all football fans would also wish them well.

 

Ah well.... its the hope that destroys you !!

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http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/drop-legal-action-against-micah-hall-and-the-fans/?m=0

 

Dear Pascal Najadi,

 

We the undersigned urge you to withdraw your threats of legal action against Micah Hall and The Fans Network.

 

We do not believe that issuing any kind of law suit against either party is a constructive way of countering any unfair claims that you feel that Mr Hall has made against you or your businesses.

 

Micah Hall is an independent blogger and hard-working family man who happens to be a passionate supporter of Portsmouth Football Club, and to that end he has published a series of articles and blog posts relating to the ownership and financial issues over the club.

 

He is not a professional journalist, and he makes no profit from his blogs.

 

You are a wealthy and successful businessman with the power of a public relations firm, as well as solicitors and lawyers you can instruct to do your bidding. Yet you also have enough influence within the media to put your message across in the mainstream press and counter any of the aspects of Micah Hall's blogs that you feel to misrepresent you or are unfair.

 

Indeed, Fans Network, who published Micah Halls' articles, have complied with part of your request and removed the post that you object to. Micah Hall himself gave you the opportunity of right-of-reply.

 

We believe in freedom of speech. We believe that independent bloggers and writers should be able to express their views, if they are published without malice and in good faith.

 

We also believe that you should have the right to defend yourself. We urge you to use the tools of the media, press and publicity to counter Micah hall's comments should you see necessary.

 

We believe that litigation against an individual such as Micah Hall will only serve to damage your reputation and attract unwanted publicity to yourself and your business operations.

 

Pursuing Micah Hall for financial damages can only be seen as spiteful and vindictive, and an attack against a man who genuinely has a passion for his club and his community.

 

Your threat of legal action against the Fans Network is also troubling. There are many social networking and blogging platforms that writers use to convey their message. Taking action against them is akin to shooting the messenger, and they have become the unfortunate third-party in this dispute.

 

Neither party has acted with malicious intent against you. We believe you can preserve your integrity by abandoning your litigation and instead counter any claims that Mr Hall makes against you in the press or through website posts to address the points you feel are incorrect.

 

Should you continue to pursue legal action agaisnt against either party, we will continue to use all legal means necessary to publicise this action and defend Micah Halls and all bloggers rights to express their opinions.

 

Thank you for taking the time to read this petition. Please sign the petition using the form below.

 

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latter day saint

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@colinfarmery: Bizarre PR In The Pompey Blogger Case http://t.co/9RZlKCuOKW

 

"We have the right to not be treated in the way that we have been for stating our opinions, although many of us in the fight to save our club have been on the receiving end of abuse, harrassment and downright lies about our intentions from a variety of different sources. It has become a matter of necessity for us to fight for these rights"

 

did this right not apply to that bloke who had to quit his job at ExpressFM ? :facepalm:

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CB Fry

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of course you are one of the brightest and well informed people around lol. If the club had been liquidated you think the stadium would still have been there now? A Phoenix club would not have been able to fund a stadium of such grandeur, I assume you believe then that a SOuthampton conference team would have supported a 35k seater stadium, that the owners of said stadium would not have got the very best people to get the stadium developed into housing or a business park. The city council would have to look at the situation and in time it would have happened. Sheffield city council have just shown that when push comes to shove a stadium will be sacrificed

 

 

None of it would have happened. We wouldn't have got liquidated, not least because of the flipping brand new stadium which would have been an absolute nightmare to turn into anything other than a football stadium. Richard Chorley would have handcuffed himself to railings for a month for a start. But in your mental little fantasy world you have the city council cheering a the wrecking balls down Brittannia Way.

 

The Don Valley stadium really has no bearing on what may have happened to a top level brand new football stadium.

 

Saints were in administration for a whole three months and you think we were on the brink of being wound up. We would have found a way, just like Luton and Coventry and Bradford and Swansea and every other football club in Britain who eventually come out of administration and then immediately start saying to the press and anyone who will listen how they were 24 hours/minutes/seconds away from being closed for good.

 

You are a fantasist who thinks Pompey have "got away with it", and the idea that we were going to be liquidated is also complete fantasy.

 

Anyway, this is a Pompey takeover thread and you are really not worth arguing with. Tell us how Pompey have got away with it again, always good for a giggle.

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FloridaMarlin

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If he can support what he blogged then he was nothing to worry about.

 

If he can't then he's an idiot.

 

This.

 

The problem with Citizen Journalists is that they want their cake and to be able to scoff it.

 

They want the trappings of journalism by expressing their views and shout from the rooftops about freedom of expression, but they don't want the responsibilities that accompany proper journalism.

 

Journalists are taught the libel laws very early on in their training so that they do not cost their employer large sums of money.

 

It is no defence to say of Hall "He is not a professional journalist" because that's what he set himself up as and wants to be viewed as.

 

The law makes no distinction between professional journalists and Citizen Journalists, it assumes that if you want to express your views, then it is your responsibility to ensure that you know enough of the law not to libel somebody.

 

In any case, you do not have to be a journalist to libel somebody. Anybody making a defamatory statement about a person and transmitting that to a third person can be sued for libel. It doesn't have to be in a newspaper or on a website. Transmitting the statement could be in something as simple as an email or a letter.

 

The UK defamation laws are unfair in many respects, and although designed to protect a person's reputation from unfair or untrue attack, invariably have been hijacked by those with the money able to defend their reputation.

 

Those threatened with action will always play the Freedom of Expression card, but the libel laws do allow for that.

 

People are allowed to express their opinion, but that opinion must not be passed off as fact, and the opinion must be honestly held and based upon facts.

 

As VFTT said, if Hall can prove the facts he has based his assertions on, he has nothing to worry about.

 

What he can't do is squeal that the libel laws do not apply to him as he is not a professional journalist.

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@pn_neil_allen: Fans start fighting fund for @blueballoo2000. Current donation tally £1,181.87. #Pompey

http://t.co/yDMWapOuF7

 

Mr Hall said: ‘The support I’ve received has been fantastic. It’s really humbling.’

 

He added: ‘Everything I wrote in my blog was a matter of public record.

 

Why was the article pulled if there was nothing contentious in it?

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http://m.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/whittingham-win-is-for-pompey-fans-1-4846751

 

03/03/2013 5:41 PM GMT

Blue Walter

As for people around the country thinking the South Coast as being "quiet" in footballing terms I have found the opposite. Pompey fans are famed for their fervent support and the numbers that turned up for League 1 games at St Mary's speaks for itself. Our numbers are not as great as Saints in League 1 but there is a very distinct difference in our situations.

 

By the time Saints started their campaign in League 1 their situation was sorted out and they were a very much a club on the up. No money problems so they could buy who they wanted who were prepared to play at that level and any player that did would want to play for Southampton in a nice new stadium and large crowds.

 

Our situation is far different. No money, a crumbling ground and a distinct possibility of being wound up. A team that when they play the most likly outcome is going to be defeat. So to be getting the support we have had is nothing short of phenomenal. So I would say this corner of the South Coast is a veritable hot bed of football !!

 

And there was me thinking that Pompey fans supported the club in huge numbers through thick and thin. Turns out they only support the club when things are going well...

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None of it would have happened. We wouldn't have got liquidated, not least because of the flipping brand new stadium which would have been an absolute nightmare to turn into anything other than a football stadium. Richard Chorley would have handcuffed himself to railings for a month for a start. But in your mental little fantasy world you have the city council cheering a the wrecking balls down Brittannia Way.

 

The Don Valley stadium really has no bearing on what may have happened to a top level brand new football stadium.

 

Saints were in administration for a whole three months and you think we were on the brink of being wound up. We would have found a way, just like Luton and Coventry and Bradford and Swansea and every other football club in Britain who eventually come out of administration and then immediately start saying to the press and anyone who will listen how they were 24 hours/minutes/seconds away from being closed for good.

 

You are a fantasist who thinks Pompey have "got away with it", and the idea that we were going to be liquidated is also complete fantasy.

 

Anyway, this is a Pompey takeover thread and you are really not worth arguing with. Tell us how Pompey have got away with it again, always good for a giggle.

No club you mention have been liquidated and so you Mr brightspark have got that wrong. If the club had been liquidated it would have been thrown out of the league, try and run a 35k stadium from that. The city could not have rented that out to Coventry etc.

As for Pompey getting away with it, i suppose it depends on what you think a fair penalty is for cheating, not paying charities, watching your team at Wembley 6 times (?) having a team of international players, winning the FA cup, playing in Europe, fielding top players when in administration, then depriving businesses of their money,and also beating your fiercest rivals. In doing so they also deprived kids from clubs who had not cheated of having their day in the sun and having those lifetime memories. They have had about 18months of real hurt but had 5 years of fun. Until they lose FP or go into the Conference i dont believe they have had the correct punishment. Going down to L2 may be enough for some, but not for me.

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