Joensuu Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/jan/25/jose-morinho-home-match-record "In the ongoing brouhaha at Portsmouth much has been made of John Utaka earning £80,000 a week. Utaka has not been a success at Fratton Park (two and a half years have brought six league goals) and would surely have moved on but for the vast pay cut this would involve. This week at a press conference Harry Redknapp, who signed Utaka for Portsmouth, claimed he never got involved in players' wages and couldn't even tell you what his Spurs players were earning. There are no doubt plenty of self-motivated club owners around. But when will a manager – even a popular manager with plenty of friends in the media – be called to account? Redknapp has managed West Ham, Southampton and Portsmouth in the last seven years: all three have suffered some form of financial meltdown since. He says he has no interest in what players are earning. Maybe he should." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 (edited) Any news on the embargo - it's gone 4pm Guess what folks. Its moved again! This story dated around lunchtime I believe. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/frattonlatest/Pompey-set-to-cash-in.6010618.jpinsisting the transfer embargo will be lifted within the next 24 hours. ... but then goes on to say.... 'We have continued to work hard on this issue and conceivably it could happen in the next 24 hours. In other news portsmouth have said that their money troubles will be over once they get to the end of the rainbow where a leprechaun with a pot of gold will give them a short term loan. This might happen in the next 24 hours said a club source with his fingers crossed behind his back. Edited 25 January, 2010 by pedg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/jan/25/jose-morinho-home-match-record "In the ongoing brouhaha at Portsmouth much has been made of John Utaka earning £80,000 a week. Utaka has not been a success at Fratton Park (two and a half years have brought six league goals) and would surely have moved on but for the vast pay cut this would involve. This week at a press conference Harry Redknapp, who signed Utaka for Portsmouth, claimed he never got involved in players' wages and couldn't even tell you what his Spurs players were earning. There are no doubt plenty of self-motivated club owners around. But when will a manager – even a popular manager with plenty of friends in the media – be called to account? Redknapp has managed West Ham, Southampton and Portsmouth in the last seven years: all three have suffered some form of financial meltdown since. He says he has no interest in what players are earning. Maybe he should." Is this the very same Harry Redknapp who only the other day was quoted as saying that Spurs would have to break their exisitng wage structure to bring Ruud Van Nistelrooy to WHL? Doesn't know what his players are earning? He obviously studied hard at the Peter Storrie school of bullsh1tting the public! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Jesus wept, some of the drivel you read on the pompey forums. Makes you realise that for all of the *****ing you sometimes get that this forum is actually pretty damn good. Just found this little snippet - apparently several thousand of us ruined Alan Ball's minute's silence: "Did you not do something similar during your minute's silence to remember the late, great Alan Ball? Or was I just dreaming the bit where several thousand red and ****e wearing *****s were shouting out about how he was a 'skate ******'?" http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9773&start=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Jesus wept, some of the drivel you read on the pompey forums. Makes you realise that for all of the *****ing you sometimes get that this forum is actually pretty damn good. Just found this little snippet - apparently several thousand of us ruined Alan Ball's minute's silence: "Did you not do something similar during your minute's silence to remember the late, great Alan Ball? Or was I just dreaming the bit where several thousand red and ****e wearing *****s were shouting out about how he was a 'skate ******'?" http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9773&start=1 The ****ing nerve!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 The ****ing nerve!! If I remember correctly, he had a minutes applause - so yes, technically we did ruin his minutes silence... but it wasn't a minutes silence, was it - you dumb inbred ****s? He got a rousing bloody reception from both Saints and Southend fans - both chanting in unison. Stupid ****ing idiots - they really are the pits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 How the f*ck do they think Kaboul is worth £11m , they're having a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 How the f*ck do they think Kaboul is worth £11m , they're having a laugh. Well, Tottenham are interested in him at £10m, if only to get back some of what they are owed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 right then....sign up on pompey's vital football it is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Well, Tottenham are interested in him at £10m, if only to get back some of what they are owed. Could be a smart move on Tottenham's part. After all, if they get Kaboul for £10M minus what they're owed by Pompey, then they'll have a player they want for less than they would have paid. Granted, they'll effectively be writing off the money they're owed, but they probably wouldn't have got it anyway. From Pompey's point of view I suppose it would be better to sell him to some other club, as that way they'd get the whole sale price (minus the obvious bits like fees to agent(s), sell-on fees and so on). It's all an exercise in deckchair arrangement when it comes down to it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Could be a smart move on Tottenham's part. After all, if they get Kaboul for £10M minus what they're owed by Pompey, then they'll have a player they want for less than they would have paid. Granted, they'll effectively be writing off the money they're owed, but they probably wouldn't have got it anyway. From Pompey's point of view I suppose it would be better to sell him to some other club, as that way they'd get the whole sale price (minus the obvious bits like fees to agent(s), sell-on fees and so on). It's all an exercise in deckchair arrangement when it comes down to it though. Just to complicate matters, Tottenham are not only still owed £2m on the Kaboul transfer, but are also due another fee due to a sell-on clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Just to complicate matters, Tottenham are not only still owed £2m on the Kaboul transfer, but are also due another fee due to a sell-on clause Oh yeah - I'd forgotten that! So, if they get £10M for him, they'll lose £2M of it because Spurs are owed it, then they'll also lose whatever sell-on money is due. Not quite up there with the Williamson transfer fiasco (I'm still laughing at that one now), but pretty good nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Oh yeah - I'd forgotten that! So, if they get £10M for him, they'll lose £2M of it because Spurs are owed it, then they'll also lose whatever sell-on money is due. Not quite up there with the Williamson transfer fiasco (I'm still laughing at that one now), but pretty good nonetheless. I think I read last week that they'd finish up with about £6 mill if he went back to Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 I think I read last week that they'd finish up with about £6 mill if he went back to Spurs Correct, a net £6.5m. Should keep them going for 2 or 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$$$ Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9773&start=1 "So we're thugs are we RAC? So what does that make Saints fans then? A friend of my wife's was on a train going home to Fareham. Some Saints fans were on the train and when they found out he was from Porsmouth, not a football fan, just a guy travelling on the train, they attacked him and threw him off the train, resulting in him having both his legs amputated. Are you one of that sort of brave little soldier ganging up on someone? No? You must be proud of them though. What charming people you have in your city." WTF? Has ANYONE heard about this or can it be filed alongside Southampton Company Union Men breaking strikes and stealing their fish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Correct, a net £6.5m. Should keep them going for 2 or 3 weeks. So that's a couple of months' worth of wages, then. Or, looking at it another way, less than two thirds of what they owe to HMRC. Or roughly a quarter of what they owe Portpin (a moving target that, as I'm sure the interest rate on Mr Chainrai's loans won't be low). On the bright side, they'd be able to pay off Udinese in full... :D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Well, Tottenham are interested in him at £10m, if only to get back some of what they are owed. someone must be on a percentage ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 someone must be on a percentage ? F'sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 someone must be on a percentage ? :-$......not onest Arry? He states he don't know what players are on, So how would he know the size of his cut.:-\" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 WTF? Has ANYONE heard about this or can it be filed alongside Southampton Company Union Men breaking strikes and stealing their fish... There was an incident, many moons ago, involving a train at Fareham station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 (edited) WTF? Has ANYONE heard about this or can it be filed alongside Southampton Company Union Men breaking strikes and stealing their fish... yep it was all over the news and reported in all the papers....not! i think it was frontline news in the Marc Jacobs and Storrie news Edited 25 January, 2010 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 There was an incident, many moons ago, involving a train at Fareham station. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Apologies if it has been said already, but I am loving the very excited reaction from some fans on PompeyOnline that they might be taken over by Colonel Gaddafi's son... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 'Fratton hero Posts: 261 Location: Medstead, Alton I do not have any gripes with souton and wish them well but not as well as us. Have just had a look at their vital site and no update or mention of anything. Guess who is their leading poster for the month with 10 points? The debate ends about support when you see that.' Someone needs to direct them to this site if they think that forum makes them superior to us :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Apologies if it has been said already, but I am loving the very excited reaction from some fans on PompeyOnline that they might be taken over by Colonel Gaddafi's son... wasn't that a rumour a year or so ago? It would add up with a arms dealer being tied into them some time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Apologies if it has been said already, but I am loving the very excited reaction from some fans on PompeyOnline that they might be taken over by Colonel Gaddafi's son... He (is believed) to have been looking at clubs for a considerable time at PL & CCC level. He played at a semi-pro level and is tied in to a club in Italy. Bad news is that he is a realistic buyer of an English Football club. Good news is he is a bright guy and has a very professional team of advisors around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 If I remember correctly, he had a minutes applause - so yes, technically we did ruin his minutes silence... but it wasn't a minutes silence, was it - you dumb inbred ****s? He got a rousing bloody reception from both Saints and Southend fans - both chanting in unison. Stupid ****ing idiots - they really are the pits. Yep. Well if this was the only remembrance of his life that we took part in then, it was a minute's applause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 He (is believed) to have been looking at clubs for a considerable time at PL & CCC level. He played at a semi-pro level and is tied in to a club in Italy. Bad news is that he is a realistic buyer of an English Football club. Good news is he is a bright guy and has a very professional team of advisors around him. I believe its genuine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 I believe its genuine But then you probably still believe in the tooth fairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 no and I am not one to blag and spout carp as a few members on here will prolly vouch for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 The interest is probably genuine... We had a lot of that too. It's the hope that kills ya, Merov.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Check out his wikipedia page.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Saadi_al-Gaddafi#Personal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 well, expect it to be in the local/national press come tomorrow. I alluded to this earlier on in the thread a few days ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamRed Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Apologies if it has been said already, but I am loving the very excited reaction from some fans on PompeyOnline that they might be taken over by Colonel Gaddafi's son... Fit and proper person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Obviously bull****, but if ever a face fits it would be Gaddafi's and Portsmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 well, expect it to be in the local/national press come tomorrow. I alluded to this earlier on in the thread a few days ago If this is true why all this fuss about arranging installments with Udinese to get the embargo lifted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 well, expect it to be in the local/national press come tomorrow. I alluded to this earlier on in the thread a few days ago Where have I seen a suit like that before.... .... will he start his press conference 'alwight Dave' ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 If this is true why all this fuss about arranging installments with Udinese to get the embargo lifted? because as with any business takeover - if for whatever reason it does not happen or did not happen before the window shuts we still need to run the business as an on-going concern and the day to day running has to continue until such a time as we are taken over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 well, expect it to be in the local/national press come tomorrow. I alluded to this earlier on in the thread a few days ago We'll wait with bated breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 don't get me wrong I do not believe for one minute it is 100% nailed on fact but it's out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 don't get me wrong I do not believe for one minute it is 100% nailed on fact but it's out there So you don't actually KNOW anything. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Gaddafi's yacht has been tracked to Hayling Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Goodo, the skates are getting their hopes up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 We need corp, and the info from his highly placed source whom he sees socially very two weeks or so, to get the genuine inside track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Fit and proper person? Well they've had the proceeds of illegal arms dealing already, so surely the leader of a terrorist-sponsoring nation should get a go as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 So you don't actually KNOW anything. LOL to a point yes, as I said I believe this is a genuine story, whether it points to an end game that I do not know. I don't think anyone is getting their hopes up VFTT, most of I think have accepted the inevitable, it will take a miracle to to get out of this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Well they've had the proceeds of illegal arms dealing already, so surely the leader of a terrorist-sponsoring nation should get a go as well... "Allegedly", our lawyers have instructed us to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Obviously bull****, but if ever a face fits it would be Gaddafi's and Portsmouth. it is a marriage that would be apt. Gaddafi running an English football club, it just adds to the complete shame our football is in the UK. I dont think if it was saints i could support them with his familyh involved/ It is ominous that Phil was not very dismissive of the news. Whats the betting the gardening leave will all of a sudden when they get financial safelty....Im must say I thought gardening leave was a thing of the past as it is against the treaty of rome etc due to restriction of trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy_Friend Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Fit and proper person? Dont worry Ali Faraj passed it, and he doesn't even exsist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigersaint Posted 25 January, 2010 Share Posted 25 January, 2010 Hasn't the Gaddafi rumour started from Wiki amd cascaded from there? I've seen a few threads while lurking on Pompey forums where the blue few like to quote daily updates on Wiki as FACT and believe a lot of what is posted there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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