Pompey Takeover Saga

[Ken Tone]

:)

 

As an aside, what was the limit that the FL put on secured debt being carried forward post administration? Was it 5 million?

 

The council loan, the generous loan from the mystery investor and the secured football creditors....How much does that all add upto.... Just a thought

 

This appears to be £1.2 million from Stuart Robinson btw - also short term, same as the council loan. Hence Taylor's comments about the PFA members now being third in line.

 

So they'll have £1 million from the HNWs, presumably in addition to the money they've already put in? £1.2 million loan from Robinson, £1.45 millon loan from PCC and somewhere around a massive £1.3 to £1.5 million of actual fans' cash money

[Gorgiesaint]

This appears to be £1.2 million from Stuart Robinson btw - also short term, same as the council loan. Hence Taylor's comments about the PFA members now being third in line.

 

So they'll have £1 million from the HNWs, presumably in addition to the money they've already put in? £1.2 million loan from Robinson, £1.45 millon loan from PCC and somewhere around a massive £1.3 to £1.5 million of actual fans' cash money

 

But remember the PST will still be 51% owners of... something... maybe...

[hutch]

Anyone heard any news on how the £30,000 allocated for free school tickets is going?

 

http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/latest-news/Free-Tickets-For-Schools-3765.aspx

 

 

I still don't understand what happens to the money when the "free" tickets are dished out to the schools each game....

Are you thick or something?

 

They use it to buy tickets.

[trousers]

@scottharris1988: Can't believe Gordon Taylor called @PennyMordauntMP a liar. At she is standing up for a community and not a greedy organisation.

 

@pfcespana: @scottharris1988 @PennyMordauntMP she should sue then. Or use her privilege in Parliament to respond.

 

@scottharris1988: @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP I think she will continue doing her job and showing the PFA how out of touch they really are. (retweeted by @PennyMordauntMP)

 

@pfcespana: @scottharris1988 if she has truly been called a liar she should ask for retraction surely. Taylor merely doing his job, players interest.

 

@scottharris1988: @pfcespana do you not think the PFA as an organisation protect their players to a point they no longer care about the game itself.

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @pennymordauntmp PFA ex-Pompey members already agreed compromise (c.£25m down to c.£8m). How is that greedy?

Edited 15 February, 2013 by trousers

[Winchester Red]

Surely there has to be a line where the amount borrowed crosses the FL's £5m debt carried forward ruling in relation to the ground valuation?

 

Ignoring the other Creditors (like they do!) if the ground was worth £8m and the PDT only had £3m cash then they would have to borrow £5m. That's the line.

 

So what's the equation?

 

...and does the £5m exclude the football creditors. Can't remember how it was defined by the FL.

[hutch]

Don't worry it's not a problem. The FL stipulation only relates to carrying forward old legacy debt.

 

The cunning skates are borrowing money to pay off the old legacy debt, so this is new debt. That doesn't count.

[tajjuk]

@scottharris1988: Can't believe Gordon Taylor called @PennyMordauntMP a liar. At she is standing up for a community and not a greedy organisation.

 

@pfcespana: @scottharris1988 @PennyMordauntMP she should sue then. Or use her privilege in Parliament to respond.

 

@scottharris1988: @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP I think she will continue doing her job and showing the PFA how out of touch they really are. (retweeted by @PennyMordauntMP)

 

@pfcespana: @scottharris1988 if she has truly been called a liar she should ask for retraction surely. Taylor merely doing his job, players interest.

 

@scottharris1988: @pfcespana do you not think the PFA as an organisation protect their players to a point they no longer care about the game itself.

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @pennymordauntmp PFA ex-Pompey members already agreed compromise (c.£25m down to c.£8m). How is that greedy?

 

Nice one, keep us updated about the delusions that are tweeted in response to this.

[pedg]

@scottharris1988: Can't believe Gordon Taylor called @PennyMordauntMP a liar. At she is standing up for a community and not a greedy organisation.

 

@pfcespana: @scottharris1988 @PennyMordauntMP she should sue then. Or use her privilege in Parliament to respond.

 

@scottharris1988: @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP I think she will continue doing her job and showing the PFA how out of touch they really are. (retweeted by @PennyMordauntMP)

 

@pfcespana: @scottharris1988 if she has truly been called a liar she should ask for retraction surely. Taylor merely doing his job, players interest.

 

@scottharris1988: @pfcespana do you not think the PFA as an organisation protect their players to a point they no longer care about the game itself.

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @pennymordauntmp PFA ex-Pompey members already agreed compromise (c.£25m down to c.£8m). How is that greedy?

 

Well if the PFA are lying then I suggest that she repeat her statement outside of parliament. Surely not a problem if she is telling the truth.

[trousers]

Nice one, keep us updated about the delusions that are tweeted in response to this.

 

I'm banging my head against a brick wall at the moment....

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @pennymordauntmp I think your find I'm talking about the organisation as a whole.

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP Fair enough but the aforementioned 'spat' between Mordaunt and Taylor is Pompey specific

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP the problem is football thinks it is immune to finances. All Mordaunt has done is stand up to PFA

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP I'm struggling to understand what PFA have done wrong in the Pompey case.

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP by poking their nose in, asking questions they know the answer to.

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP You've lost me now. What rhetorical questions are PFA asking & how's that poking their nose in?

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP the PFA asked if the Harris bid is viable, yet its not as FL won't allow it. He buys it, PFC dies

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP there no one gets anything. The only CVA that works is the one from PST.

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP the PFA are there to protect members not get involved in court proceedings.

 

Anyone got a killer response to that lot?! I'm losing the will to live

Edited 15 February, 2013 by trousers

[rallyboy]

small finger?

When there's a sticky bun up for grabs those dainty little fingers look like a bunch of bananas descending upon it.

Also Penny forgot to apologise for getting her facts all mixed up!

Maybe later, after dinner...

 

 

 

That Echo piece has just reminded me, a while back I mentioned the swing in league positions, I was especially looking forward to the magic 92 number.

 

By my reckoning the lowest we plummeted with the points penalty was 54 places below them.

We are now 52 places above.

 

For those that still say they've got away with it without punishment, I say a 106 place swing in our fortunes looks like a pretty good spin-off.

 

Though in an ideal world, a gap of 54 would be a nicer way to officially bury the trauma of the past...

 

 

 

 

Worth repeating - 106 places.

[Big Bad Bob]

I'm banging my head against a brick wall at the moment....

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @pennymordauntmp I think your find I'm talking about the organisation as a whole.

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP Fair enough but the aforementioned 'spat' between Mordaunt and Taylor is Pompey specific

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP the problem is football thinks it is immune to finances. All Mordaunt has done is stand up to PFA

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP I'm struggling to understand what PFA have done wrong in the Pompey case.

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP by poking their nose in, asking questions they know the answer to.

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP You've lost me now. What rhetorical questions are PFA asking & how's that poking their nose in?

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP the PFA asked if the Harris bid is viable, yet its not as FL won't allow it. He buys it, PFC dies

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP there no one gets anything. The only CVA that works is the one from PST.

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP the PFA are there to protect members not get involved in court proceedings.

 

Anyone got a killer response to that lot?! I'm losing the will to live

 

I would have but 140 characters, less the usernames, just doesn't let me do it??

[trousers]

I would have but 140 characters, less the usernames, just doesn't let me do it??

 

I went with this:

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP How is phoning the Football League to seek clarification "getting involved" in court case?

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP They were simply doing what you say they should do: i.e. "protect their members"

 

@Lord_Trousers: @scottharris1988 @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP Their members have already lost c.£17m in the Pompey case

 

And got this back...

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP but should they put forward a bid which they know is not viable. Its an out of touch organisation

 

@scottharris1988: @Lord_Trousers @pfcespana @PennyMordauntMP why are they asking the FL something they already know answers to?

[Frank's cousin]

' The PFA called the FL to understand WHY they did not want the Harris bid to go ahead'... seems fair to me, as they had seen that the Harrris bid would pay off their members quicker (and possibly with a better guarantee) than PST.... DOING THEIR FECKING JOB...

 

... The PFA is NOT charged with ensuring Pompey survive, but with protecting the rights of their members - what the feck is not to understand?

 

...If PST had a bid that actually looked solid enough and ensured the PFA members/football creditors would actually get their money within a fair and realistic timeframe, then the PFA would not be bothered about the Harris bid... and the PST publically declaring they want/need to renegotiate again with the PFA members will not have given teh PFA much confidence on the PST bid... Penny MP (Munching Pies) is not stupid... she knows exactly that she is talking sheidt, but its sheidt that resonates with voters.... as any politician would do.

[trousers]

@bobjbain: @Lord_Trousers @scottharris1988 @PennyMordauntMP Also PFA members are, by all accounts, having their payment scheduled rearranged by the PST

 

@bobjbain: @Lord_Trousers @scottharris1988 @PennyMordauntMP ..going against original compromise agreements

 

@scottharris1988: @bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP its already been agreed by administrator the payment schedule. Can't be changed, part of CVA.

 

@bobjbain: @scottharris1988 @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP Compromise agreements are *NOT* part of the CVA, FCR sees to that

 

@scottharris1988: @bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP yeah but what I'm saying the agreement with creditors made in the summer? No going back on it.

 

@scottharris1988: @bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP the FCR will see them get paid. The schedule hasn't been called into question. Just a smear

 

@scottharris1988: @bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP against the PST by the looks of it. The bid has been ready for ages.

 

@bobjbain: @scottharris1988 @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP In any case CVA schedules can be rearranged #PFC2010 CVA for example. Not a penny paid.....

 

@scottharris1988: @bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP that was the CVA which was never gonna be paid. You seen it? Never ever viable.

 

@scottharris1988: @bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP it was another ploy by Portpin to wrestle money out of PFC.

 

@bobjbain: @scottharris1988 @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP Hmm, short term loans by PCC and Robinson have seen the compromise agreements pushed back

 

@scottharris1988: @bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP I'll find out tomorrow when I chat to couple at FP and find out for sure.

 

@scottharris1988: @bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP I think PST just need a court date, once that's sorted its will be a takeover.

 

@bobjbain: @scottharris1988 @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP The #pfc2010 CVA was agreed to reduce ~£100m of debt (HMRC, PO biz etc) down to ~£20m

 

I've just run out if popcorn

[Gemmel]

Someone should remind penny that in the last three years the blue few have cost the tax man;

 

1) 30 million Admin 1

2) 2. 5 Million Admin 2

3) The 110 million pound of unsecured debt of which tax would have been paid, even at a conservative rate of 30% would have been another 33 million

4) The tax on players wages that were compromised from around 25 million to 8 million would have been another (At 40%) 7 million

5) Any further compromise from the 8 million to whatever is agreed would be more tax.

 

So in three years my maths make it over 72 million pounds that the public purse is down by. That is really quite astonishing.

[Big Bad Bob]

@scottharris1988 @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMPCompromise agreements are *NOT* part of the CVA, FCR sees to that

@bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP yeah but what I'm saying the agreement with creditors made in the summer? No going back on it.

 

@bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP the FCR will see them get paid. The schedule hasn't been called into question. Just a smear

 

@bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP against the PST by the looks of it. The bid has been ready for ages.

 

@scottharris1988 @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP In any case CVA schedules can be rearranged #PFC2010 CVA for example. Not a penny paid.....

 

@bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP that was the CVA which was never gonna be paid. You seen it? Never ever viable.

 

@bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP it was another ploy by Portpin to wrestle money out of PFC.

 

@scottharris1988 @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP Hmm, short term loans by PCC and Robinson have seen the compromise agreements pushed back

 

@bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP I'll find out tomorrow when I chat to couple at FP and find out for sure.

 

@bobjbain @Lord_Trousers @PennyMordauntMP I think PST just need a court date, once that's sorted its will be a takeover.

 

 

Where's the banging head against wall smiley??

[trousers]

Where's the banging head against wall smiley??

 

Bonkers, isn't it? (p.s. sorry to steal your thunder by posting the above as I went along)

[Big Bad Bob]

I think @scottharris1988 has given up now, pwned in modern day vernacular me thinks..

[Tomobz]

I think you tweeters should ask MP Mordaunt why she is supporting an organisation that hasn't paid tax for so many years until she gives an answer. I really think a journo should put this across in an article and see how much sympathy the general public then have toward the thieving football club...

[Window Cleaner]

Steve Wilson ‏@pn_steve_wilson

Brian Howard is obviously better suited to not being surrounded by abysmal footballers than he is to Pompey. A big disappointment at #Pompey.

 

 

they obviously weren't playing him as a front sweeper.

[trousers]

I think you tweeters should ask MP Mordaunt why she is supporting an organisation that hasn't paid tax for so many years until she gives an answer. I really think a journo should put this across in an article and see how much sympathy the general public then have toward the thieving football club...

 

Trouble is, the stock answer to that is along the lines of: "That was when Pompey were run by dubious people and there was nothing we could do about it. That's why we need to put all our efforts behind the Trust to ensure it doesn't happen again"....blah....blah.....blah

 

Of course, they're happy to airbrush the historic financial misdemeanors but not quite so happy to airbrush the footballing history that went hand in hand with it...

[Tomobz]

Trouble is, the stock answer to that is along the lines of: "That was when Pompey were run by dubious people and there was nothing we could do about it. That's why we need to put all our efforts behind the Trust to ensure it doesn't happen again"

 

Maybe ask if they're going to sell the silverware to repay what they owe!

[qwertySFC]

I think you tweeters should ask MP Mordaunt why she is supporting an organisation that hasn't paid tax for so many years until she gives an answer. I really think a journo should put this across in an article and see how much sympathy the general public then have toward the thieving football club...

 

Or - has she actually put her Grand in - Yes or No

[trousers]

Maybe ask if they're going to sell the silverware to repay what they owe!

 

Exactly

[Tomobz]

There was such a huge uproar about Lance Armstrong taking drugs to enhance his performance and achieve unjustified success that they have wiped that success from the history books, this is no different at all. Spending money you legally can't afford to spend on getting a huge competitive advantage is exactly the same as taking an illegal substance to gain one.

[Tomobz]

I'm going to take out a huge loan and buy my local pub team. I'm then going to make ridiculous promises of paying huge wages to high profile players so that we can go on a cup run to Wembley. I'm then going to pay no one the money I promised I would, let the administrators take charge and put the FA Cup trophy in my locals trophy cabinet whilst letting the creditors and tax payer foot the bill for our success. Then I'm going to tell everyone that we are the best pub team in the world and we have the best support the game has ever seen as apparently this is a viable and morally acceptable plan for the management of a football team. Hopefully the local MP will offer a loan and take the clubs plight to parliament when the locals decide they'd like to buy it for a small percentage of the debt. Result.

[Pedro]

Basically, Penny Mordaunt, as an MP, is condoning and supporting a business who deliberately trades insolvently to gain a commercial advantage.

[Tomobz]

Basically, Penny Mordaunt, as an MP, is condoning and supporting a business who deliberately trades insolvently to gain a commercial advantage.

 

Exactly. What a great example she sets... I can't believe the media aren't making more of it. I don't mind the dillusional supporters not caring but for an MP to take it to the house of commons and get support from the PM is really annoying. Is there anything we can do about it? Anyone know a journo...?

[Panda]

Basically, Penny Mordaunt, as an MP, is condoning and supporting a business who deliberately trades insolvently to gain a commercial advantage.

 

You are not listening are you? That was all done by those naughty people who are no longer at the club and that is exactly why we need the squeaky clean chaps from the Trust to take over and run it properly and honestly in future. Remember, these people did not make this mess, they have been left to sort it out as best they can!

 

[Do you know, just for a moment, I started to believe that as I typed it - got a grip just in time!]

[Gemmel]

New member - thought you might like to see the reply to my email to Gordon Taylor reference their position this week.

Reference your email.

 

 

 

It is just not true to say that the PFA are blocking the bid of the Portsmouth Supporters Trust for their club.

 

 

 

I have made it clear in the past that we have absolutely no objections to the PST buying the club and indeed have many examples of supporters running clubs successfully because of their inherent interest, loyalty and support for the club.

 

 

 

I wish to make it quite clear that it is the job of the administrator to select which bid for the club is best for the club and then that needs the approval of the Football League. The Football League have made it quite clear to us that, as far as they are concerned, the latest bid for the club does not have the substance that they require or the credibility and I believe they have made that view known to the administrators. As far as we are concerned, the PFA has a record of spending time and a great deal of money in looking to keep football clubs alive and any view to the contrary is totally incorrect.

 

 

 

I believe is it totally mischievous to have people saying it is the fault of the PFA that this matter is not sorted now and suits particular players in this game, not least the administrator. We were looking forward to the valuation from the court so that things could move forward. As far as the PFA and its members are concerned, the players at Portsmouth have made massive sacrifices to help keep the club going and we have persuaded them to defer their monies and indeed accept a lot less than they are due.

 

 

 

The fact is that the players were the first on the list of creditors to be paid in the future if the club survived, albeit for the most part this would take well over three years. The situation has changed yet again and now the players are being asked to move down the queue behind the Council and other people concerned with lending money to the Supporters Trust and from that point of view we are looking to get exact and particular information as to how this will affect the position of the players so we can be as straight with them as we have tried to be from the very beginning. For example, if the Council or any creditors above the players and indeed the administrator is looking to make charges on the club that may be very punitive then that information needs to be told to our members and all we have asked for is a straightforward display of clear information as to the position that the players are in and when they could be expected to get some monies, if any, in the future. Above all it remains our position and that of the players to keep the club alive and we are very hopeful that the Supporters Trust can achieve this if they are the preferred bidder.

 

 

 

It does NOT help the situation for local MPs to be unfairly and misleadingly castigating the PFA and the players at this time, particularly when that is most unfair on players who, through no fault of their own, have made massive sacrifices.

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Gordon

[Tomobz]

That's a good e-mail and sums everything up perfectly. What MP Skate is doing is a huge abuse of power, the fortune of the skates is nothing to do with the countries politics and her propaganda to get the PST takeover through when there are so many more important issues in the constituency is just plain disgusting. I told my girlfriend about this who has no interest in football at all, let alone a bias hatred of PFC, and she thought it was wrong. I feel the majority of the general public would feel the same way if it was brought to their attention.

[badgerx16]

mordant [ˈmɔːd^ənt]adj

1. sarcastic or caustic

2. having the properties of a mordant

3. pungent

[trousers]

New member - thought you might like to see the reply to my email to Gordon Taylor reference their position this week.

Reference your email.

 

 

 

It is just not true to say that the PFA are blocking the bid of the Portsmouth Supporters Trust for their club.

 

 

 

I have made it clear in the past that we have absolutely no objections to the PST buying the club and indeed have many examples of supporters running clubs successfully because of their inherent interest, loyalty and support for the club.

 

 

 

I wish to make it quite clear that it is the job of the administrator to select which bid for the club is best for the club and then that needs the approval of the Football League. The Football League have made it quite clear to us that, as far as they are concerned, the latest bid for the club does not have the substance that they require or the credibility and I believe they have made that view known to the administrators. As far as we are concerned, the PFA has a record of spending time and a great deal of money in looking to keep football clubs alive and any view to the contrary is totally incorrect.

 

 

 

I believe is it totally mischievous to have people saying it is the fault of the PFA that this matter is not sorted now and suits particular players in this game, not least the administrator. We were looking forward to the valuation from the court so that things could move forward. As far as the PFA and its members are concerned, the players at Portsmouth have made massive sacrifices to help keep the club going and we have persuaded them to defer their monies and indeed accept a lot less than they are due.

 

 

 

The fact is that the players were the first on the list of creditors to be paid in the future if the club survived, albeit for the most part this would take well over three years. The situation has changed yet again and now the players are being asked to move down the queue behind the Council and other people concerned with lending money to the Supporters Trust and from that point of view we are looking to get exact and particular information as to how this will affect the position of the players so we can be as straight with them as we have tried to be from the very beginning. For example, if the Council or any creditors above the players and indeed the administrator is looking to make charges on the club that may be very punitive then that information needs to be told to our members and all we have asked for is a straightforward display of clear information as to the position that the players are in and when they could be expected to get some monies, if any, in the future. Above all it remains our position and that of the players to keep the club alive and we are very hopeful that the Supporters Trust can achieve this if they are the preferred bidder.

 

 

 

It does NOT help the situation for local MPs to be unfairly and misleadingly castigating the PFA and the players at this time, particularly when that is most unfair on players who, through no fault of their own, have made massive sacrifices.

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Gordon

 

Well said that man. Need to get that out into the Twittersphere...

 

I'd go back to the original amount if I was the PFA (not that they would ever get it) but just out of principle....."You (PFC) have reneged on the terms and conditions of the compromise deal ergo we're going to tear it up and go back to the original claim"

[saint si]

I think you tweeters should ask MP Mordaunt why she is supporting an organisation that hasn't paid tax for so many years until she gives an answer. I really think a journo should put this across in an article and see how much sympathy the general public then have toward the thieving football club...

 

Yes. Imagine any other industry...

 

Acme Limited has gone in to administration twice, but carries on trading under new names each time (Acme Holdings, Acme International), and as a result, HMRC is out of pocket to the tune of £50m (or whatever).

 

That alone should be enough to create widespread disgust and condemnation.

 

However, not only that, but the local council has then agreed to loan Acme several million pounds in order that Acme can buy some assets that it doesn't want to have to rent. AND local MPs have also stood up in parliament and committee to defend Acme and seek government support.

 

It is completely and utterly ridiculous.

[spyinthesky]

Anyone see the rather large piece in todays Times about Pompey

 

Unfortunately only got a glance over someones shoulder on the train but last paragraph said something along the lines of ...'falling well down the South Coast pecking order compared to their resurgent neighbours at Southampton, Brighton and Bournemouth'...!!

 

Perhaps add Plymouth and even the likes of Dover, Weymouth and Bognor in future years.

[trousers]

@georgegalloway: no reply from bbcqt yet re blatant censoring of an uncontested fact. Rangers owe the country money

 

@Lord_Trousers: @georgegalloway How much do Rangers owe? Pompey have avoided > £50m tax during 2 admins over last 3 years but rarely gets mentioned...

[johnnyboy]

Anybody here asked for the pm from POL board yet ?

 

 

As you may be aware, we are considering sending you a Private Message (aka "conversation" with this board software) regarding a certain issue that has arisen regarding a very prominent and well respected board member in relation to certain blogs, but as there are so many of you who only browse rather than join in discussions, it will be easier for us if you can please express your interest in receiving a message by acknowledging below. Please don't ask any questions etc as you won't get a reply, all we need for this thread is your name if you want to be added to the list.

 

Please don't PM me or any other of the admin a request as it will get lost in the melee - put your name down in a post below and we'll take it from there. Please note that we won't acknowledge that you have said yes as it will mean we do that for everyone who asks, but rest assured your name will be noted.

 

This way, it will be easier for us to gauge how many we are sending - we don't after all want to send out 7k or whatever the total is if its not necessary.

 

If we go ahead and send them out, it will happen between now and Sunday evening, so if by Monday you haven't received one then we decided not to send it and we will announce that on this thread.

[OldNick]

Perhaps The MP who is married to/partner of who is a taxman has a conflict of interests. Surely he should put her straight on how much the club has robbed the exchequer . I wish our MP,s when we we were close to extinction had used their sway to help.

[Essruu]

If you're usually a lurker and are grom an SO postcode, don't send them a PM. If you do, they will be able to see your IP and possible location - it's probably a scümhunt !

 

All the while you remain lurking without posting messages or sending PMs, they won't see your IP, like me :-)

[Faz]

If you're usually a lurker and are grom an SO postcode, don't send them a PM. If you do, they will be able to see your IP and possible location - it's probably a scümhunt !

 

All the while you remain lurking without posting messages or sending PMs, they won't see your IP, like me :-)

 

They really are obsessed......

[Essruu]

They really are obsessed......

 

I hadn't looked on there for a few days, so misunderstood what this was all about. I now see that they aren't asking people to PM them, they're asking people to reply to the thread. This gives away your IP address and they are already accusing people with low post counts of being scümmahhhhhs. They are, to a man,complete bellends.

[OldNick]

I hadn't looked on there for a few days, so misunderstood what this was all about. I now see that they aren't asking people to PM them, they're asking people to reply to the thread. This gives away your IP address and they are already accusing people with low post counts of being scümmahhhhhs. They are, to a man,complete bellends.

I think they believe they are the Masons as they want to be so secretive

[chocco boxo]

I think they believe they are the Masons as they want to be so secretive

 

The Masons are very giving, just like those Skates giving 3 points away every week.

[Window Cleaner]

@georgegalloway: no reply from bbcqt yet re blatant censoring of an uncontested fact. Rangers owe the country money

 

@Lord_Trousers: @georgegalloway How much do Rangers owe? Pompey have avoided > £50m tax during 2 admins over last 3 years but rarely gets mentioned...

 

Did a tax tribunal not decide recently thar Rangers don't owe all that much tax. HMRC appealing of course but a prima facie their trust scheme was legal.

[saintmatt]

If you're usually a lurker and are grom an SO postcode, don't send them a PM. If you do, they will be able to see your IP and possible location - it's probably a scümhunt !

 

All the while you remain lurking without posting messages or sending PMs, they won't see your IP, like me :-)

 

Surely they can get your ip from the moment you register?

[sidthesquid]

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/vultures-are-circling-for-pompey-fledglings-1-4789902

 

 

 

How can Whittingham turn down offers for players? I thought PKF were running the club....?

 

Because quite frankly £12.50 in loose change, 4 Hungarian florints and a past-its-sell-by-date tin of Quality Street isn't going to save the club

[stevegrant]

Surely they can get your ip from the moment you register?

I don't know what forum software they're using, but in general the IP address used when registering is stored, as is the IP address used whenever you post. Any different IP addresses you use to browse while not posting are available at the time in the "Who's Online" bit (only admins/mods can see the IP), but they're not stored beyond the time the user is logged in unless they then post.

[saint si]

Use 3G and your IP address will just be that of your mobile carrier - nothing to do with your location.

[Doctoroncall]

I don't know what forum software they're using, but in general the IP address used when registering is stored, as is the IP address used whenever you post. Any different IP addresses you use to browse while not posting are available at the time in the "Who's Online" bit (only admins/mods can see the IP), but they're not stored beyond the time the user is logged in unless they then post.

 

I better stop using all the office computers in all the sites to keep my list manageable!

[trousers]

@pn_neil_allen: Spent week trying to contact Keith Harris but doesn't want to talk. So PR man David Bick quoted in #Pompey column tomrw. Interesting quotes.