dvaughanwilliams Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Take it from me, his group of companies are fu Cked... So, reading between the lines, it seems that Robinson made the agreement to buy the land before arranging the funding. He has presumably been going around his usual lenders and discovered that there aren't all that many people that are keen on lending money secured on a football ground, especially when there was an imminent court case to have a different charge removed from said ground. Now that the court case has come up, some difficult questions are being asked and he has had to come clean. If this speculation is remotely close to the truth it's now Chainrai or bust.
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Adjourned until 2pm tomorrow. #Pompey FFS...
St Chalet Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 What price Chanrai stepping in to takeover from Stuart Robinson?
OldNick Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Case adjourned until 2pm tomorrow nothing is straightforward with them is it? i assume the taxpayer will be footing some of the bill
Window Cleaner Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 bet they're not, PFC are veritable Houdinis.
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 I assume the taxpayer will be footing some of the bill So, it's free for Pompey then...?
Wurzel Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 What a shame this all comes too late for last night's British Comedy Awards. Still, there's always the lifetime achievement award once it's finally all over
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 So, assuming Chainrai wrestles back control.....is the club worth more to him dead or alive (the day after the next tranche of Parachute Payments arrive of course)....?
hypochondriac Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 So does that mean there could be a decision tomorrow? A shame if so...
Minty Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 What a shame this all comes too late for last night's British Comedy Awards. Still, there's always the lifetime achievement award once it's finally all over It may be taking a lifetime, but they're not actually achieving anything... More likely to be some kind of Honours list award for services to Southampton Fans...
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Time to check Twitter for some level headed #pompey reaction.... I may be some time....
hutch Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Whatever is going on, it's a lot more complicated than we think. We have been led to believe that Robinson has secured the Gaydamak land (for around £2.5m if the reports are to be believed). If he has then I don't see how he would have any real difficulty in raising the required sum to complete the jigsaw. but if he hasn't secured that land then who has? I don't think it's about money, I think it's about people.
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @NabilHassan79: PKF confirm REL are Robinson Estates Limited, connected to property developer Stuart Robinson who had been due to buy Fratton Park
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Matt Smith @Matt_Smith78 @pn_neil_allen do we know why an adjournment was requested?#Pompey Luke Fletcher @bigluca84 @Matt_Smith78 @pn_neil_allen Some sort of missing paper work and a firm that doesn't exist
ericofarabia Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 So, reading between the lines, it seems that Robinson made the agreement to buy the land before arranging the funding. He has presumably been going around his usual lenders and discovered that there aren't all that many people that are keen on lending money secured on a football ground, especially when there was an imminent court case to have a different charge removed from said ground. Now that the court case has come up, some difficult questions are being asked and he has had to come clean. If this speculation is remotely close to the truth it's now Chainrai or bust. Do you mean the guy whose brother was getting verbally abused by the bestest outside the court a short while ago? Brilliant
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 It's the hope that kills.... Sam Singleton @SamSingletonPFC The only signal I get from this, is that the Judge seems to think this can be resolved by tomorrow. That's positive. #pompey
Ken Tone Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 It's the hope that kills.... Sam Singleton @SamSingletonPFC The only signal I get from this, is that the Judge seems to think this can be resolved by tomorrow. That's positive. #pompey Was that Sam Simpleton?
CB Saint Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 It's the hope that kills.... Sam Singleton @SamSingletonPFC The only signal I get from this, is that the Judge seems to think this can be resolved by tomorrow. That's positive. #pompey And the wishful thinking award goes to...
Guided Missile Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @NabilHassan79: PKF confirm REL are Robinson Estates Limited, connected to property developer Stuart Robinson who had been due to buy Fratton Park Robinson currently has 13 directorships in active companies with Hackberry Developments UK Ltd being the most notable. He has a variety of businesses including a conference firm and a finance company. He is a very good sailor in his spare time, having finished second in the Zero IRC class at the recent Cowes Week. Yacht racing is not a cheap pastime and Robinson has had custom-made yachts built for him by the one of the few firms who build the Americas Cup boats so it’s fair to say he’s probably not short of a bob or two but, like any other sensible businessman, he will only get his feet wet if it's worthwhile to him. Robinson’s cordial talks with the Trust are still ongoing and can now carry on for an extra two weeks to finalise matters and add weight to the Trust bid. If this juicy idea gets squashed then the Trust apparently has other flavourable options available. Errrr...yes he is short of a bob or two. Actually he's short of over £1.5M...
Ken Tone Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Is PFC a yogurt brand now? "If this juicy idea gets squashed then the Trust apparently has other flavourable options available"
Torres Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 I suspect the judge has given the 2 sides another 24 hours to sort out whatever they couldn't sort out over the last couple of hours and I guess that's whether the hearing should be further adjourned or dismissed altogether.
Andy from Bassett Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Do you mean the guy whose brother was getting verbally abused by the bestest outside the court a short while ago? Brilliant Thing is Pompey fans would rather go Phoenix club route than back to Chanrai
OldNick Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 have Pompey now had more High court appearnces than they had had Wembley ones?
Katalinic Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Is the "Trust or Bust" mantra retractable? Neil Allen probably hopes so.
Torres Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 have Pompey now had more High court appearnces than they had had Wembley ones? It really is their second home
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @SuppDirect: We're at High Court with @pompeytrust, seeing some online speculation. Facts: talks are continuing, parties will reconvene at 2pm tomorrow. Well, that's clarified things. Good job we've got Supporters Direct on hand to steer us through the murky waters...
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Thing is Pompey fans would rather go Phoenix club route than back to Chanrai They might say that now but they have a habit of switching between heros and villains depending on which way the wind is blowing... They've had over 3 years to cast Chainrai aside by setting up a Phoenix club but the allure of artificial success gets them every time...
JackanorySFC Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Thing is Pompey fans would rather go Phoenix club route than back to Chanrai How you you know Andy from "Bassett"? I say that's a load of s***, they had plenty of chances to do that before but didn't bother/ couldn't organise it.
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 How you you know Andy from "Bassett"? I say that's a load of s***, they had plenty of chances to do that before but didn't bother/ couldn't organise it. I notice "Andy" joined the forum the day before the Trust announced Robinson had joined their team.... Just sayin'...
TopGun Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Info on the PKF QC - http://www.landmarkchambers.co.uk/our_people/barrister/katharine_holland
suewhistle Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Thing is Pompey fans would rather go Phoenix club route than back to Chanrai You mean what we on here were recommending a couple of years ago?
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Trust saying discussions between PKF and Portpin are on-going for at least the next 12 hours. Trust expect to be 'informed'. #Pompey
dvaughanwilliams Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 I think that if the problems with REL are what everyone thinks, then PKF will withdraw the case, having racked up thousands in legal fees.
FloridaMarlin Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 It's the hope that kills.... Sam Singleton @SamSingletonPFC The only signal I get from this, is that the Judge seems to think this can be resolved by tomorrow. That's positive. #pompey ********. No High Court would adjourn a hearing and give somebody "a signal." The reason it is likely to be resolved by tomorrow is because there are two days set aside for it.
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Trust saying discussions between PKF and Portpin are on-going for at least the next 12 hours. Trust expect to be 'informed'. #Pompey Well that would make a change!
pedg Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Time for the trust to wheel out one of the "other favourable options" they claim to have had?
Andy from Bassett Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 I notice "Andy" joined the forum the day before the Trust announced Robinson had joined their team.... Just sayin'... .....and the Sherlock Holmes award goes to.......
buctootim Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Its uncanny, almost as if Robinson was Chanrai's place man inveigled into the trust to derail their bid at a critical moment.....
JackanorySFC Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 I notice "Andy" joined the forum the day before the Trust announced Robinson had joined their team.... Just sayin'... Trust no one fella....
alehouseboys Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Chanrai has never been my hero. How you you know Andy from "Bassett"? I say that's a load of s***, they had plenty of chances to do that before but didn't bother/ couldn't organise it. Of course he did mean 'Andy from Buckland', spelling's not that strong on the island. 14 on the bus..."bestest" "passion" "massive"
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 .....and the Sherlock Holmes award goes to.......
OldNick Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Thing is Pompey fans would rather go Phoenix club route than back to Chanraithey say that but in real life, they dont mean it
JackanorySFC Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Chanrai has never been a hero. He is to us. Up the f***ing Saints! Agree?
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Meanwhile, news from the UK's soon to be second biggest fan owned club ever... @GraemeBailey: Sky Sports understands that Swansea City are lining up a January raid for England Under-21 star Craig Dawson. http://t.co/n0Evx56n
andysstuff Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 I notice "Andy" joined the forum the day before the Trust announced Robinson had joined their team.... Just sayin'... Easy now, lets not go all POL.
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Easy now, lets not go all POL. My shame is complete
St Marco Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 I'm wondering if Chinny is doing the old if I can't have it no one can move. Because as already indicated he wouldn't pass the FL owner tests so even if he won he couldn't run it.
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