JackanorySFC Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Nabil Hassan @NabilHassan79 Exactly who REL Ltd are was not disclosed in court, Portpin reps were very keen to offer that info to the press during hour break. #Pompey Seems Portpin know the score, PKF and PST look like a right bunch of chancers lol!
Clapham Saint Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Dissolved 2/12/2008 or 2/12/2012? 2/12/2008 An other company previously named Rossetts (Eastbourne) Limited then changed it's name to REL Limited on 16/03/2009.
Waterside.saint Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Surely this thread must be in the guiness book of world records for 'most facepalms in one thread' Just as well facepalms arent chargeable
St Chalet Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 REL ltd looks like a husband and wife Personal Service Company. Cannot believe this was the transaction vehicle. I have my Companies House Direct account open should we need any more investigated!
buctootim Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Not sure company no. 04113822 is the right one GM. Both Pompey based but this one was a small telecoms company with one Ronald Longstaff and wife as directors.
stevegrant Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 I assume the paid-for part of the Companies House site allows you to search for a director and find companies linked to that person?
bridge too far Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 REL ltd looks like a husband and wife Personal Service Company. Cannot believe this was the transaction vehicle. I have my Companies House Direct account open should we need any more investigated! Sounds like a brothel
St Chalet Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 I assume the paid-for part of the Companies House site allows you to search for a director and find companies linked to that person? Yes, Stuart Robinson, off I go.
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @pn_Rory_McKeown: Seems talks are still on going between two sides #Pompey
St Chalet Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 http://lucymcarmichael.blog.com/2012/11/13/does-the-hope-of-portsmouth-fans-rest-on-a-supreme-tower-of-avoidance/ Stuart Alec Robinson Residence Monte Carlo 16 Boulevard Princess Charlotte Monaco MC98000
Guided Missile Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Dissolved 2/12/2008 or 2/12/2012? [TABLE] [TR=class: bluemidtext] [TD=class: padding36]Name & Registered Office: REL LIMITED 24 LANDPORT TERRACE PORTSMOUTH HAMPSHIRE PO1 2RG Company No. 04113822 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=class: dotDevider] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: dotDevider] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: padding30] [TABLE] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: yellowCreamTable]Status: Dissolved 02/12/2008 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
stevegrant Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Ah yes, I remember that blog post from a month ago - chickens, roost, etc
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @pn_Rory_McKeown: Discussions extended until 12.30pm. #Pompey
St Chalet Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=class: label]Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]STUART ALEC ROBINSON[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label, width: 20%]Nationality:[/TD] [TD=class: text][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Latest Address:[/TD] [TD=class: text]BELMORE HOUSE BELMORE PARK, BELMORE LANE[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]UPHAM[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]SOUTHAMPTON[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Postcode:[/TD] [TD=class: text]SO32 1HQ[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Country/State of Residence:[/TD] [TD=class: text]UNITED KINGDOM[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: text, colspan: 2]Click HERE for details of other addresses registered at Companies House for this person.[/TD] [/TR] [TD=colspan: 2] [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Date of Birth: [/TD] [TD=class: text]04/03/1969[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2]Company Appointments: Current: 13 / Resigned: 0 / Dissolved : 0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: text, colspan: 2]To view company details, click on the appropriate company number.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: text, colspan: 2]Click HERE to exclude Resigned and Dissolved appointments[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]LLP DESIGNATED MEMBER[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 29/10/2003 [/TD] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]LLP Registered No.[/TD] [TD=class: text]OC305903[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]LLP Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]STAY CALM MARINE LLP[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]LLP DESIGNATED MEMBER[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 17/12/2003 [/TD] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]LLP Registered No.[/TD] [TD=class: text]OC306369[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]LLP Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]X PROPERTIES LLP[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 12/05/2010 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]PROPERTY FINANCIER[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]07197078[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]CARLTON PROPERTIES (BRENTFORD) LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 12/05/2010 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]PROPERTY FINANCIER[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]07196973[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]CARLTON PROPERTIES (WOKINGHAM) LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 12/05/2010 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]PROPERTY FINANCIER[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]07196971[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]HACKBERRY CONFERENCES LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 12/05/2010 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]PROPERTY FINANCIER[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]07196972[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]HACKBERRY DEVELOPMENTS UK LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 12/05/2010 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]PROPERTY FINANCIER[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]07196967[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]HACKBERRY PROPERTIES UK LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 12/05/2010 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]PROPERTY FINANCIER[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]07231459[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]MOUNT DEVELOPMENTS (HAMPSHIRE) LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 09/07/2010 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]PROPERTY FINANCIER[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]05006821[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]R ESTATES LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 27/10/2010 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]PROPERTY FINANCIER[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]03402953[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]ETON HOUSE ESTATE LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 27/10/2010 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]PROPERTY FINANCIER[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]03777194[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]EUROPEAN EQUITABLE FINANCE LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 02/12/2010 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]COMPANY DIRECTOR[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]07457608[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]R ESTATES (2010) LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD=width: 40%] [/TD] [TD=width: 60%] [/TD] [/TR] [TD=class: rbtext]DIRECTOR[/TD] [TD=class: rbtext]Appointed: 18/11/2011 [/TD] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]COMPANY DIRECTOR[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]05463481[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]DARWIN COURT (COLCHESTER) LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
Waterside.saint Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 http://lucymcarmichael.blog.com/2012/11/13/does-the-hope-of-portsmouth-fans-rest-on-a-supreme-tower-of-avoidance/ Stuart Alec Robinson Residence Monte Carlo 16 Boulevard Princess Charlotte Monaco MC98000 Late development: penny drops for some of the few- http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/business/local-business/change-in-terms-threatens-quick-resolution-in-pompey-case-1-4581909 PapaBlue 11:37 AM on 13/12/2012 "Have tried to check out the financial status of REL without success but interesting to see that Robinson has two other business names. Hackberry Properties and Goldar Property. Both of which filed accounts with a working capital of under TEN POUNDS!!!! I do hope Birch has correctly investigated him and seen proof of his funds."
brightspark Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 R Estates (2010) Limited.... Active? Could this be the intended 'REL'? Could this be the problem? For some reason?
pedg Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]PROPERTY FINANCIER[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]05006821[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]R ESTATES LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=align: center] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Occupation:[/TD] [TD=class: text]COMPANY DIRECTOR[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Number:[/TD] [TD=class: text]07457608[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: label]Company Name:[/TD] [TD=class: text]R ESTATES (2010) LIMITED[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: text]Active[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] One of these I assume is the real one so has someone got the wrong end of the stick with this other REL?
St Chalet Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 One of these I assume is the real one so has someone got the wrong end of the stick with this other REL? Yes, that simpleton Neil Allen.
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Didn't we point out these company 'discretions' when the the PDT announced their 'team' a few months back? Shame on us if we didn't....how on Earth are we going to take the credit for this if we let it slip through the net? Edit: or was that for the McInnis chap who IIRC had many dissolved companies under his belt. Can believe we didn't do some digging on Robinson too...
St Chalet Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 One of these I assume is the real one so has someone got the wrong end of the stick with this other REL? R Estates 2010 filed a statement of capital on 02/12/2012
Guided Missile Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Not sure company no. 04113822 is the right one GM. Both Pompey based but this one was a small telecoms company with one Ronald Longstaff and wife as directors. Correct. Wrong bunch. Must be another dodgy company with a similar name.
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @pn_Rory_McKeown: Deepak Chainrai and Levi Kushnir returned to the court room, picked up their coats and bags, and walked out again. #Pompey
St Chalet Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 GM If you can download the latest document filed on Company Number 07457608 I can't as on a Citrix terminal.
Lazlo78 Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Everyone decided to go to lunch but forgot to tell poor Rory: "I'm the only person in court room now so will investigate. #Pompey"
Ken Tone Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Everyone decided to go to lunch but forgot to tell poor Rory: "I'm the only person in court room now so will investigate. #Pompey" will we get updates on his sandwiches do you think?
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 (edited) @pn_neil_allen: Just had a quick count and there are 14 #Pompey fans present today. Fair to say a few have made some choice comments to Portpin folk. 14.... Just how big was that coach they hired....? Edited 13 December, 2012 by trousers
Tokyo-Saint Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @pn_Rory_McKeown: Deepak Chainrai and Levi Kushnir returned to the court room, picked up their coats and bags, and walked out again. #Pompey SOS Carlos said to be outside practising his lines ready for this very moment "Chanrai you're a scuuummmma cannnt!"
Chopper71 Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Just had a quick count and there are 14 #Pompey fans present today. Fair to say a few have made some choice comments to Portpin folk. 14.... He didn't even need his toes to count that high then!
Torres Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Just had a quick count and there are 14 #Pompey fans present today. 14.... That's a delayed tweet from Tranmere last weekend.
Guided Missile Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 GM If you can download the latest document filed on Company Number 07457608 I can't as on a Citrix terminal. His real company is even worse. The group accounts show a net loss of nearly £1.5M and a negative worth of the same. A real train wreck and the end of the Trust Bid, I would say...
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 That's a delayed tweet from Tranmere last weekend.
OldNick Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 something is happening between the 2 sides. You know im always pessimistic and Pompey will get away with it. i do hope Phils lot he talks about are not putting their hand in to save the day
dvaughanwilliams Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 His real company is even worse. The group accounts show a net loss of nearly £1.5M and a negative worth of the same. A real train wreck and the end of the Trust Bid, I would say... Are you able to discern whether these are genuine losses or just accountancy losses for 'tax planning'. Property Companies are renowned for their ingenuity in their uses of loopholes.
Guided Missile Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 GM If you can download the latest document filed on Company Number 07457608 I can't as on a Citrix terminal. Total assets of £89M and short term debts of £91M.
Guided Missile Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Are you able to discern whether these are genuine losses or just accountancy losses for 'tax planning'. Property Companies are renowned for their ingenuity in their uses of loopholes. Take it from me, his group of companies are fu Cked...
edprice1984 Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Just got some very strange looks from colleagues as I nearly destroyed another keyboard at work....managed to utter one word through the laughter and tears of joy....Pompey! They all just smiled a knowing smile and got back on with their work...
Katalinic Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 Take it from me, his group of companies are fu Cked... Indeed. It seems to me that either a) it all seemed like a good idea until it came to actually putting the money up or b) the money wasn't actually there in the first place.
trousers Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 @pn_Rory_McKeown: Everyone entering the court. It's back on #Pompey hold on tight.
melmacian_saint Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 I'm sure the Robinson issue was mentioned in here?? I remember it coming along with his dreaded SO home address that some of the phew were angry about...
pedg Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 So we may have got to the right answer via the wrong route. REL ltd are nothing to do with it but REL are and they don't have any money to buy with. Question is if this had not come out now what on earth would have happened? Would they have just sent an IOU to PKF?
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 13 December, 2012 Posted 13 December, 2012 11:27 Mark: For those who have recently joined us, lack of action here right now is because we have an adjournment at court. Judge expected to resume hearing soon and rule on whether or not case can proceed today. Very possible that the hearing will be adjourned for 28 days Does that mean.... Excellent if so.
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