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http://m.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/opinion/survival-this-season-would-be-the-greatest-escape-1-4529479

 

There is still hope in some quarters a victory for the Pompey Supporters’ Trust in their ownership battle with Portpin can circumnavigate a 10-point deduction.

 

As former boss Michael Appleton was keen to point out, however, the Football League have hardly been forthcoming in lending a sympathetic ear to the club’s plight so far.

 

Yeah, that nasty Football League have got it in for poor old plucky Pompey...

 

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when Pompey were in danger of being liquidated, there were only about 3 or 4 of their fans outside the court, in this one will there be as many?

 

I just have this image of TCWTB and a mate in pimpley shirt on one side of the road, facing 12 or more "early middle aged" Gentlemen in suits wearing Red Ties singing We're coming for you and Pompey's going down with no money in the Bank...

 

And Neil Allen telling us there was over 500 fans there

 

 

(Attending nutjobs - Have to be suited and booted don't let Dress Down Friday get in the way!)

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@pn_neil_allen: The Football League have refused #Pompey special dispensation to bring in a replacement for Cisak. http://t.co/eEf8Bvte

 

Aw....shame...

 

 

Quite right too. They specifically choose to gamble by having an extra outfield player in their squad of 20 and this has come back to haunt them. If they had had two perm. keepers and one had been injured they would have a case.

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Poor Eastwood, his confidence must be shattered if the care taker manager has no faith in him. I wonder how he'll play Saturday.

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-told-they-can-rely-on-eastwood-1-4534112

 

Simon Eastwood is ready to shine for Pompey following Alex Cisak’s shock exit.That is the verdict of goalkeeping coach John Keeley, who is convinced the youngster can prove himself.

Pompey were this morning informed by the Football League they will not have special dispensation to recruit a replacement keeper outside of the emergency loan window.It leaves Eastwood as the only senior keeper at the club, putting him in the frame for an extended run in the side.

The 23-year-old has already made four appearances in four different competitions. And Keeley is confident he will not let the Blues down as he prepares to feature regularly.

‘He’s a great kid who trains 110 per cent. He is the first in and last to leave more or less.'

 

Why do they persist in calling their c.23 years old players "kids" or "youngsters" as if they are only just 'ready' for League One football? The average age of our Premier League starting line-up is c.23 years FFS...

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LOL on POL they're not happy with the FL :lol:

 

I believe the scummers were able to recruit a goalie ahead of a fixture with us as they had a goalie injury crisis?

 

so as we only have one goalie I assume there's no one on the bench, what happens if Eastwood get injured?

 

I make that one rule for others and we can get f****d

 

Now we have a keeper who played in the blue square north last season. Another great appleton signing

 

Well done Football League, someone clearly had their weetabix this morning

 

This is another kick in the teeth by the Football League- a body that has failed this club

 

I would've thought the FL would have cut us some slack, but not, so be it.

 

I think we should pick the battles we stand a chance of winning. We cant beat the system, no matter how inadequate it may be. But we can keep our own house in order under our own control.

 

I'd prefer we take our punishment, however harsh or absurd it may be. And begin from there. The next club that falls into difficulty, and faces such a useless organisation would then get our full backing and campaign that changes do need to be made.

 

:facepalm: :facepalm:

 

And finally, this gem from Scumfinder General (who still hasn't found me :lol:)

 

Its a shame that fate turned against us yet again, but that is the hand we've been dealt and we just have to get on with it. Let's hope we might be in a better position soon where we might be able to make Cisak a more permanent fixture.

 

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http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-told-they-can-rely-on-eastwood-1-4534112

 

Why do they persist in calling their c.23 years old players "kids" or "youngsters" as if they are only just 'ready' for League One football? The average age of our Premier League starting line-up is c.23 years FFS...

 

Over on POL, its quite remarkable. I'm not sure if you'll believe this, but....

 

....they're blaming the Football League for their goalkeeping crisis!!

 

is it time to start sending emails to the FL again asking for clarification on this.

 

I do love how we get punished for Dickov's idiocy.

 

He loans out a keeper so that he only has one left in the squad, that one gets injured so he screws us over by recalling Cisak outside of the loan window, and then we're denied the chance to get ourselves another one due to his fook-up in the first place.

 

Well done Football League, someone clearly had their weetabix this morning

 

So as we only have one goalie I assume there's no one on the bench, what happens if Eastwood get injured?

 

I make that one rule for others and we can get f*cked

 

This is another kick in the teeth by the Football League- a body that has failed this club. The FL's decision doesn't surprise me. Nothing it metes out to us does.

 

They. Just. Don't. Get. It.

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It'll just wind Fartoniser up even more that two of us copied stuff from there.

 

Hi by the way. How's the banning of us scummaaaahs going, I expected to have received a ban from you seeing as you know who we all are... ;)

 

Hi from me too, Fratts. It seems like I'm actually as "banned" as Pamplemousse here. Despite a few months ago you in your Scumfinder General role telling all the minions that you'd ousted me and "got the one that I wanted".

 

:lol::lol::lol:

 

Poor old Fartoniser. He drives a van for a living, don't you know? True story.

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the old villainherometer has just blown up - things change too fast.

 

Keeper makes debut, gets a ride around the city on an open top bus after their draw, gets on the first train home, and as it trundles away from Fratton Station carrying him to freedom, he shouts out of the window that one day he'd like to be a club great - he just didn't say which club.

 

 

 

Spiteful old FL making them adhere to rules again, it's not fair.

And they're being punished for the same offence a third time.

Though they can easily overturn the points penalty, that belongs to the other club, the old one - or the one before that.

Boo, nasty authorities!

They must be jealous like the rest of us.

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Keeper makes debut, gets a ride around the city on an open top bus after their draw, gets on the first train home, and as it trundles away from Fratton Station carrying him to freedom, he shouts out of the window that one day he'd like to be a club great - he just didn't say which club.

 

 

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Mark Littlewood @MarkJLittlewood

#Pompey @pn_neil_allen Are rumours of less than 500 pledges in true? Shld I call you or the PN newsdesk? Extraordinary lack of support?

 

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BREAKING NEWS +++ #PompeyTrust collection is less than £500k according to inside sources. Only £1,300,000 to go.

 









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Ok, guys, give me a clue. More £1k pledges than the lamentable 800 away at Coventry? Or lower? Easy question. Transparency etc#Pompey

 

 

 

 

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@MarkJLittlewood: BREAKING NEWS +++ #Pompey Trust collection is less than £500k according to inside sources. Only £1,300,000 to go.

 

@ollybirchpfc: @MarkJLittlewood haha even if that was true, that's 25% of take up in two weeks, fantastic effort #PlayUpPompey

 

@MarkJLittlewood: @ollybirchpfc bless. Why aren't the Trust releasing these "fantastic" numbers. I thought a new era of #Pompey transparency was dawniing?

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From POL:

 

Poopeyscot (must be one of us?)

 

Have to admit, and cane me for this if you will, but I don't have a problem with the decision. We do have two keepers, Eastwood and O'Hara. Yes, one of them is youth, but Eastwood is a recognised senior keeper and other teams, in similar positions to ours, have had to play youth players, so I don't have a massive issue with the decision.

 

If we have an injury to a keeper then we'll be able to get an emergency, but so long as we have two then we're chancing it with asking for permission. Argue if you will whether the rules are right or not, but those are the rules and we know that.

 

For me, we need to stop blaming the FL and concentrate on making sure we're not in this mess ever again. I'm with the FL with this one I'm afraid, we have keepers, we play them if needs be, until we get an alternative in January or there's an injury.

 

Nagoyblue in reply:

 

PompeyScot is completely right. The rules are clear. If we had no senior keepers at the club, we could get another on loan. But we have Eastwood, and a youth keeper to sit on the bench, so we don't qualify for an emergency keeper loan. If either of our 2 keepers gets injured or banned, then we can get another keeper.

 

But saying we should be allowed another keeper, you are asking the FL to bend the rules to help us. But the rules are the same for everyone.

 

And Guy bought in a good young keeper, with a view to a permanent deal, but unfortunately it didn't work out. Not his fault, just unlucky that the Oldham keeper decided to get sent off with a straight red.....who could have known?

 

Whappen says:

 

So you can have emergency loans most of the season because going down to one keeper 'is' an emergency .. except outside of the emergency window when having one goalie 'isn't' an emergency.. however, in the period that emergencies don't happen, if you go down to no keepers it becomes an emergency and you can borrow one for seven days until the emergency is over....caaaaaaants
:cry::cry::cry::cry:

 

I know gillon is a skate but even he is beginning to 'get it'! :lol::lol::lol:

 

'Time for me to be outed on the Forum that just keeps giving?

 

Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V. I'm loving it.

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Tbf to bill he has always said take the medicine a mnd get us clean. He makes sense on that one issue

 

If, as he rightly says, the rules on this are clear (which they are) why did Pompey even contemplate trying to bend the rules (yet again).

 

I thought they'd turned over a new leaf?

 

Same old Pompey...always trying to bend the rules

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Less than 500K ! If true then that is hilarious :)

 

Yeh! but I needs me welfare cheque for me Christmas Tinnies Moosh, If someone bought the Fookin Scummah Cants then sumfin will turn up for Pompey!.

 

The above is a rough translation of a conversation heard on the train this morning!

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Here's a thought: PDT waste loads of time with their bid, racking up admin fees, putting off other, viable bids... but only getting 500 shareholders.

 

All of which could make the PDT direct contributors to the demise of the very club they're trying to save.

 

Like I said, just a thought...

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@MarkJLittlewood: BREAKING NEWS +++ #Pompey Trust collection is less than £500k according to inside sources. Only £1,300,000 to go.

 

@ollybirchpfc: @MarkJLittlewood haha even if that was true, that's 25% of take up in two weeks, fantastic effort #PlayUpPompey

 

 

Who is Olly Birch?

 

Does he realise that the take up of schemes like this aren't something which accelerates over time.

 

Pompey fans have known about the request for donations, sorry - shares, for months.

 

There will be an initial spike on day/week one when the genuinely committed cough up straight away and it will then tail off pretty quickly.

 

If they've acheived 25% in two weeks then I wouldn't expect much more than 35% at teh end of the process.

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Who is Olly Birch?

 

Does he realise that the take up of schemes like this aren't something which accelerates over time.

 

Pompey fans have known about the request for donations, sorry - shares, for months.

 

There will be an initial spike on day/week one when the genuinely committed cough up straight away and it will then tail off pretty quickly.

 

If they've acheived 25% in two weeks then I wouldn't expect much more than 35% at teh end of the process.

 

You're forgetting that it takes a few weeks for all the loan applications to be approved... ;)

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I didn't know that Olive from On the Buses had a twin brother.

 

 

 

Anyway, calm down my little nutjob friends, I'd be surprised if the take-up is quite that low.

 

But with no figures, no financial plans and no transparency, we can only guess.

 

IF they really are struggling then expect to see a big media campaign next week, 'Trust or bust', 'this really is the end unless you step forward', but of course the real losers will be the property developers.

Without someone giving them money and fronting their heart-tugging takeover, their profits will be limited and liquidation could be next.

 

That would mean they'd have to pay a commercial rate for the land like other developers, rather than a 'fan's rates' price as proposed by the PDT.

 

As Birch sets a record for the slowest administration in history and the Trust finalises their bid in the time it took a lame tortoise to join the 92 club, I'd hazard a guess that they are now just waiting on the court case.

They are in limbo.

Not for any good reason, they just don't seem to know the meaning of the word urgent.

 

 

I know it's complex but surely by now you either give detail of your finalised bid or you withdraw, they don't seem to be doing either.

 

Meanwhile I hear that Hearts are mounting a fan bid, so they could beat pompey to the title of the bestest ever in the world - if they too ignore Exeter etc.

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Now this is how you do a fans' rescue of a club:

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/nov/29/real-oviedo-spain-premier-league

 

Real Oviedo, sold shares at €11 a go and raised several million. Have thousands of shareholders across Spain (many who aren't Ovideo fans) and the "fans" combined shareholding makes them the biggest shareholder (c.40%).

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Interesting piece that SteveG has tweeted regarding Bassini and Watford

 

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/10080321.Bassini_and_Watford_charged_with_misconduct/

 

Although the offences are not necessarily similar to any that may or may not have been carried out at Pompey in recent years, it is interesting to see that the FL are willing to investigate and charge Watford and Bassini even though Bassini is long gone.

 

For Watford/Bassini, read Pompey/Chanrai et al?

 

More hope that Mike Hall's Fine Work may get the recognition is deserves - that from the FL....

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http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-seeking-free-agent-to-solve-goalkeeping-headache-1-4544225

 

The Football League have refused Guy Whittingham special dispensation to bring in a loan player to replace Alex Cisak, who has returned to Oldham.It leaves the caretaker boss with Simon Eastwood as the only keeper in his squad.

Whittingham has swiftly ruled out calling-up 16-year-old Connor O’Hara from the Academy.

Instead, he will focus on bringing in a goalkeeper currently without a club, with the likes of ex-Bristol City stopper Adriano Basso currently without a club.

With no game this weekend, it gives the Blues added time to search for likely candidates.

And Whittingham expects ‘one or two’ in training on Monday for a trial.

He said: ‘I’ve said it before that I would have no problem playing Simon (Eastwood).

‘But if he gets injured in the warm-up, which happens sometimes, we would be left with no goalkeeper. I know it is rare but it can happen.

‘I’m not looking at Connor (O’Hara), either. He has not got the experience, nor has he trained enough with the first team.

 

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http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/guy-s-looking-towards-moment-of-truth-1-4539954

 

January is very much on Whittingham’s mind now and the squad reshaping that will need to take place.

He knows he will be able to rely on Pompey’s standing in the game to attract targets :facepalm:– if he can push on make the changes that are being planned for by the coaching team.

The Pompey caretaker boss said: ‘There are a lot of people out there that do want to come here because they know what a good football club it is and what a great set of fans we have. :facepalm:Whenever we approach agents, players or clubs, the word’s coming back to us that the players would like to come down here and play because it’s a great football club.

‘Something out there is out and about that it is a decent place to come.

‘Whether it is the atmosphere at the training ground, the training, the club itself, the history of the club, the fans, who knows? :facepalm:

‘It’s really down to this football club that it could draw players like Cisak and Jervis – and they wanted to come here, as well.

‘That is a big plus side we have got being here – we can attract players.

‘When these players find out this football club wants them they are very eager.

 

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The thing is, there were plenty of other goalies available on loan without a recall clause, but they went for Cisak as he was effectively Oldham's number one, and only not playing because of a contractual wrangle. They were aware of the risk of recall, but in true Skate style went for quality over quantity, then whinged when their gamble didn't pay off.

It is a disease down there, isn't it? Just once you'd like to hear them say, 'Hey we took a chance, it didn't work out so we'll accept the consequences', but they are pathologically incapable of doing so.

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