The Kraken Posted 27 October, 2012 Share Posted 27 October, 2012 Maybe the trust shouldn't be boasting about how much money they will give Appleton to spend on players and wages. The ex-players will see this and think why shouldn't the creditors such as themselves get that money and not for Pompey to spend it elsewhere on yet more new players. The ex-players have already signed up to revised compromise agreements; the amount they can get back is fixed by those agreements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 October, 2012 Share Posted 27 October, 2012 The ex-players have already signed up to revised compromise agreements; the amount they can get back is fixed by those agreements. All except Kanu of course. Yet another aspect of this saga that's gone very quiet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 27 October, 2012 Share Posted 27 October, 2012 All except Kanu of course. Yet another aspect of this saga that's gone very quiet.... Ah yes; the silent assassin lurking in the background. He still has a significant role to play; and now not living in the area he won't be succeptible to intimidation from Portsea Island's finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 27 October, 2012 Share Posted 27 October, 2012 By the time this saga ends, and considering his age, Kanu won't be around to get his money back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 His executors will be battling out with yet another administrator or chasing a Blue Square club.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 So Kanu's great great grandchildren might get a few pence in about thirty or forty years time then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 http://www.thisisdorset.net/sport/10012284.Cherries__Eddie_defends_decision_to_recall_striker_Wes/?ref=rss Looks like Bompey are not very happy with the fishy ones ! Both Howe and the fans having a bit of a go at that 'hypocrite' Mr Appy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 From a Sheffield paper interviewing Jon Harley: http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football ... -1-5072238 Excerpts from the article: “Basically, despite everything that was going on, we were all just proud to play for this club." “I think we’ve been able to get a lot of really top lads in purely because it’s Portsmouth,” Harley said. "Portsmouth and Sheffield United are two of the biggest, probably the biggest, names in the division,” Harley, who left South Yorkshire seven years ago, said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 http://www.thisisdorset.net/sport/10012284.Cherries__Eddie_defends_decision_to_recall_striker_Wes/?ref=rss Looks like Bompey are not very happy with the fishy ones ! Both Howe and the fans having a bit of a go at that 'hypocrite' Mr Appy ! Love this quote from UnAppy. “But the other side of it is that if he goes back, is he going to get used? They certainly don’t want to do us any favours, do they? And why should they you cock!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 And why should they you cock!! Because they're P*mpey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 @solentsport: #Pompey set to re-sign former loan star Scott Allan on a month's loan from #WBA. PFC hope for clearance in time for him to play tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/allan-seals-pompey-loan-1-4420362 Pompey have re-signed Scott Allan on a month’s loan.The Scottish midfielder enjoyed a successful loan spell with the Blues last term, making 15 appearances and scoring one goal between February and April. But after failing to force his way into West Brom’s first-team plans at the start of this term, the 20-year-old has just finished a short loan spell at Pompey’s League One rivals MK Dons. While he struggled to get a starting berth with the Dons, he knows Blues boss Michael Appleton well from their time together at the Hawthorns. Allan certainly made an impact for the Blues last term and will be welcomed back with open arms by Pompey fans as he goes straight into the squad for tonight’s League One clash at Sheffield United. Phew....I thought there might be a danger of Pompey being uncompetitive for a while there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/allan-seals-pompey-loan-1-4420362 Phew....I thought there might be a danger of Pompey being uncompetitive for a while there.... We cant be having that a Trolleys:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Thank goodness the #Pompey game is on TV tonight. It has allowed fans to witness a majestic first 45 minutes from Scott Allan. Bravo!! @pn_neil_allen: He has been outstanding in the opening 45 minutes. Talk of the press box and - it seems Twitter. Nothing to do with people wondering how Pompey can afford to field a premier league loanee whilst in administration for the 2nd time in 3 years whilst racking up debts of c.£150m then Mr Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 It is notable that for a club on its uppers all their first 11 have played at a higher level and whilst not exactly household names, I have at least heard of half their players, not something I can claim for many in League One. Still it's good to know they are competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Packing out the away end again I see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kirkup Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Packing out the away end again I see.... Perhaps we shouldn't laugh too much til we've seen how many are going to West Brom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Appy is so unappy he's recently been interviewed for the palace job. All this in it together business - he can't wait to get out! He's not the favourite at the moment though. Wonder what that says about how he sees the trust and their bid?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 0-1 to the (very) few ! Silly pen ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 0-1 to the (very) few ! Silly pen ! Erm; other way round. 1-0 to Sheff Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Nice quote from the commentator about Sheffield United 'They definitely have more reputation, history and support than Portsmouth' Surely not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Packing out the away end again I see.... But those are the bestest phew ever in the whole wide universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Six points adrift of safety at this point of the season. ......ooops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I wonder whether PES will make an appearance tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Haha -10 puts them joint bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticksaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I don`t think the skates managed a shot on target :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Perhaps we shouldn't laugh too much til we've seen how many are going to West Brom Agree. For a monday night League 1 game, on Sky, 4 hours drive away (probably more like 5 or 6 with traffic), which they are likely to lose, that's not actually a bad turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 But those are the bestest phew ever in the whole wide universe. To be fair, those few making the trip to sheffield on a Monday night are pretty good fans... its where the other 200,000 are that needs to be asked surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 To be fair' date=' those few making the trip to sheffield on a Monday night are pretty good fans... its where the other 200,000 are that needs to be asked surely?[/quote'] And also probably the only ones who will turn their pledges into cold hard cash! Anyone ever mentioned that the numbers just don't add up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 Several times during the Sky commentary and punditry last night the phrase "despite all their off field problems Pompey are still able to field a decent side" without one person questioning why that might be. The media is awash with one dimensional 'experts' on all things football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 30 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 30 October, 2012 Several times during the Sky commentary and punditry last night the phrase "despite all their off field problems Pompey are still able to field a decent side" without one person questioning why that might be. The media is awash with one dimensional 'experts' on all things football. I noticed that - there seemed to be a complete lack of questioning why Williamson turned down a new contract at SU in preference of a month's contract with the plucky phew. Shoddy journalism, if I had a contact nos for the commentator I would drop him a line to put him right. As every day passes this is allowed to continue the scandal deepens. If I was a supporter of other league 1 teams I would be bloody angry at this farce. And if I was owed money I would be bloody furious that P+rtsmouth are allowed to spend heavily on wages while welshing on other obligations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 I noticed that - there seemed to be a complete lack of questioning why Williamson turned down a new contract at SU in preference of a month's contract with the plucky phew. Sheff United offered him a contract that was cut by 60% to bring him in line with the other members of the squad. He obviously wasn't happy. Forest were seriously interested in signing him so he turned the contract down. Unfortunately for him there was a change of manager at Forest and it left him high and dry. Pompey stepped in. Now, I don't know what his wage is like now, but it wasn't as simple as Pompey out bidding Sheff United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 Pompey were the better side in the first half and there looked only to be one winner.It was galling to hear the commentator keep harping on how tough it was for them, and how they didnt know each others name etc. I didnt watch the second half and so was surprised to see the score. Busaky and Allen were very good. in fact they looked a decent side. I suspect a lot of clubs may take a leaf out of this model, get rid of their expensive acadamies and just put the squads on 1 month contracts. it seems sensible as they wont have to pay wages during the summer, much like it was before Jimmy Hills campaign that got full time contracts and player power in the early 60's (??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 (edited) http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Groundhog-Day-3849.aspx Despite suffering successive defeats, Andersen is adamant that Pompey’s quality will start to shine through. He said: “I think we’ve got to the stage where we are good enough to win every game home and away. Scott Allan has come into the side and given us something different. “I think people are starting to look at what we’re doing on the football pitch rather than everything that is going on off it. “That is testament to everyone at the football club and not something that’s just down to the players.” No.....it's testament to the number of businesses, charities, ex-players and tax payers that you've screwed to the tune of c.£150m just so that you can remain "competitive" you buffoon. (I agree with the title of the article though...) Edited 30 October, 2012 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/injury-denies-maguire-pompey-return-1-4421782 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depressed of Shirley Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 Pompey were the better side in the first half and there looked only to be one winner.It was galling to hear the commentator keep harping on how tough it was for them, and how they didnt know each others name etc. I didnt watch the second half and so was surprised to see the score. Busaky and Allen were very good. in fact they looked a decent side. I suspect a lot of clubs may take a leaf out of this model, get rid of their expensive acadamies and just put the squads on 1 month contracts. it seems sensible as they wont have to pay wages during the summer, much like it was before Jimmy Hills campaign that got full time contracts and player power in the early 60's (??) I think this is the way ahead for League 1 and 2 clubs. Ok you don't get any transfer fees coming in, but then you don't have to pay people when their injured. Why have lots of long term contracts when there is such quality available for short periods for a free. Makes perfect sense for all these clubs at that level. I wonder what Gordon Taylor thinks of the plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 I think this is the way ahead for League 1 and 2 clubs. Ok you don't get any transfer fees coming in, but then you don't have to pay people when their injured. Why have lots of long term contracts when there is such quality available for short periods for a free. Makes perfect sense for all these clubs at that level. I wonder what Gordon Taylor thinks of the plan? January will be the acid test. There will be better clubs after some of those players, able to offer a longer term, more secure contract, and they'll be able to leave for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10014941.Anger_as_vandals_target_D_Day_museum/ Short of cash leads to desperate measures maybe?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindsorSaint Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 Sam Pearce on Twitter: "Wouldn't swap Pompey's cup success for anything. We are paying for it now, but what a day." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depressed of Shirley Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 January will be the acid test. There will be better clubs after some of those players, able to offer a longer term, more secure contract, and they'll be able to leave for nothing. I understand that, and I am being a little tongue in cheek about this. But, I can really see some benefits for clubs across the bottom two divisions in doing this season after season. For the PFA, though, it gives no job security, potential for being finished by injury, and then claiming from the PFA for evermore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 I think this is the way ahead for League 1 and 2 clubs. Ok you don't get any transfer fees coming in, but then you don't have to pay people when their injured. Why have lots of long term contracts when there is such quality available for short periods for a free. Makes perfect sense for all these clubs at that level. I wonder what Gordon Taylor thinks of the plan? It has also actually helped Pompey in ways other than financial. Firstly, players are continually having to perform to keep their place in the squad. If they're consistently below par they'll just be binned out at the end of the month. So the whole short term contract = career uncertainty factor actually works both ways. We all saw what happened with Saganowski with us; brilliant while on loan trying to earn a contract; absolutely sh*te and lazy once he got his contract. Secondly; being able to ship out players that are actually no good has masked Appleton's player identification and recruitment ability. Ordinarily he'd be stuck with a bad transfer choice for at least the season or duration of the player's contract. In this way when he signs a dud he can just ship them back out again and try someone else. Yep, wouldn't be surprised to see a host of clubs try and go down this route. Although the FL will probably allow it only for Pompey as an exception and restrict it for all other clubs. Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 Pompey were the better side in the first half and there looked only to be one winner.It was galling to hear the commentator keep harping on how tough it was for them, and how they didnt know each others name etc. I didnt watch the second half and so was surprised to see the score. Busaky and Allen were very good. in fact they looked a decent side. I suspect a lot of clubs may take a leaf out of this model, get rid of their expensive acadamies and just put the squads on 1 month contracts. it seems sensible as they wont have to pay wages during the summer, much like it was before Jimmy Hills campaign that got full time contracts and player power in the early 60's (??) The UEFA rules will have to change so that players can sign for many clubs in a season and outside transfer windows too otherwise players at the bottom end will be screwed by the clubs once they get that first month out them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 I've not seen it on here before, but I've found a very in-depth report (written in August) on the skate fans and the way they are dealing with things! http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/blogs/pompeys-plight/attachment/portsmouth/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 Portsmouth FC @officialpompey Send us your questions for Scott Allan for the Brentford programme. Use hashtag #AskAllan Matt Hope @xX_HOPESTER_Xx Would you consider a permanent stay at Pompey once the finances are sorted out? #AskAllan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 Portsmouth FC @officialpompey Send us your questions for Scott Allan for the Brentford programme. Use hashtag #AskAllan Matt Hope @xX_HOPESTER_Xx Would you consider a permanent stay at Pompey once the finances are sorted out? #AskAllan Don't be daft ...... he'll be retired by the time he's 60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 The UEFA rules will have to change so that players can sign for many clubs in a season and outside transfer windows too otherwise players at the bottom end will be screwed by the clubs once they get that first month out them. If you are out of contract you can sign for another club (as long as the old club releases the player's registration). I think it is a maximum of playing for two clubs in a given season which would stop the proliferation of this type of behaviour. The club would also be exposed to the risk of a mass exodus so if anything a club would have six or so players on a longer term contract (one year plus) with the others short term (less than a season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 If you are out of contract you can sign for another club (as long as the old club releases the player's registration). I think it is a maximum of playing for two clubs in a given season which would stop the proliferation of this type of behaviour. The club would also be exposed to the risk of a mass exodus so if anything a club would have six or so players on a longer term contract (one year plus) with the others short term (less than a season). I expect clubs would get their best players on long term contracts but the journeymen (90pc of a squad) would be on a short term contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 October, 2012 Share Posted 30 October, 2012 If you are out of contract you can sign for another club (as long as the old club releases the player's registration). I think it is a maximum of playing for two clubs in a given season which would stop the proliferation of this type of behaviour. The club would also be exposed to the risk of a mass exodus so if anything a club would have six or so players on a longer term contract (one year plus) with the others short term (less than a season).the journeyman player must be allowed to play for as many clubs as he likes and not be restricted by a club not releasing his registration. It is rediculous that a player signing for the skates can be released by them after a month but he then can't get work till January if Pompey don't release his registration. They could offer £5000 for the first month then when it comes to renewing they offer £500 for the second. The player is going to want to find employment elsewhere but can't. Not on. Players must be able to earn. The EU will step in here if any player goes to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 31 October, 2012 Share Posted 31 October, 2012 http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/607393075?-11209 Appy's off again, with loaning out players so he can get others in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 31 October, 2012 Share Posted 31 October, 2012 http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/607393075?-11209 Appy's off again, with loaning out players so he can get others in. A staggering 36 players have represented Pompey, of which 7 have since left the club... With the squad at the maximum of 20...etc I need to have a word with my old maths teachers. To think that I didn't realise that 36-7=20. Shame on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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