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Only 15k home fans though despite the call to arms.

 

Wa.nk support.

 

I think 15K home support is pretty good compared to what they are likely to get as an average though. This game enabled them to be joyous for a bit, was against fairly local opposition and was a nice day.

 

It's as good as it gets I'd imagine.

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Get the bus out, order the fireworks, paint the post boxes and alert the Lord Mayor - the plucky battling troops only went and got a fricking point at home to Bournemouth!! :o

 

 

 

 

 

But how can the media get so much wrong??

 

Solent just told a caller that pompey will get -10 'because you are not allowed to start the season in administration'. :o

You don't have to be a Nutjob to graps the basic facts, especially when it's your occupation.

 

 

 

Fair play to Barnard!

From the commentary I guess that it was in front of the Fatpipes end of the ground - in the style of Nathan Dyer.

After the abuse he will have suffered, I do hope Barny wasn't over the hoardings looking for gobby cage fighters to 'defend himself' against.

 

What with them being the greatest fans in the world they won't be pleased that a scummer halted their little party.

Ive seen it before when the chanting is silenced by an equaliser - grubby faces, gob****e shirts bulging with beer bellies, jaws-slack, eyes all over the place, facial tattoos contorted in hate, spitting abuse.

No doubt the blokes joined in too.

 

 

Let's be honest, when they last tried to pack the park, people had to shout to be heard by the bloke next to them, we thought they'd all gone in fancy dress as blue seats, so 17K was a decent effort.

When seasonally adjusted that actually comes out at 46,500 - so everything is good!.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though a quarter of that crowd was needed to cover the administration fees for seven days, 1 in 4 people gave their cash to Birch today. :scared:.

 

They will be fine - as long as they have two homes games a week until Christmas, pack the park everytime, and the Trust finds £15M down the back of the sofa.

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"Ive seen it before when the chanting is silenced by an equaliser - grubby faces, gob****e shirts bulging with beer bellies, jaws-slack, eyes all over the place, facial tattoos contorted in hate, spitting abuse.

No doubt the blokes joined in too."

 

The first time I have actually laughed at this thread!

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I think 15K home support is pretty good compared to what they are likely to get as an average though. This game enabled them to be joyous for a bit, was against fairly local opposition and was a nice day.

 

It's as good as it gets I'd imagine.

Just read a post from one of ours on the main board, Kraken I think, who went to the game coz he got a free ticket.

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If it was not so pathetically school boy wannabe gangsta shiedt, there would be a strong case for incitement to violence with that... 'cut you with a stanley knife'...jeez, and I thought such arseholes only existed in crap hooli films... again I am amazed that the rest of pompey agreed to lend the few braincells to these ****s so they could string such obcenities together in a single sentance together.

 

I think we should nominate it for an Ivor Novello, or mabe the Mecury music prize. Such talent needs to be shared I think.

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What's also annoying is that te media and skates will be hailing Appleton as a genius manager. He isn't, he just has a load of players that are vastly better than most others in league one.

 

And then as if by magic:

 

god created michael appleton.

never been so proud as i was today watching a rag tag and bobtail team thrown together wearing the blue shirt.

at times some of the football was incredible, one touch edge of the area stuff.

a little bit of luck we would have gone in at half time two up.

a team thrown together by a manager with no tools to work with.

a team consisting of players who nobody else wants, a team full of rejects.

result was immaterial, first time for years i had tears in my eyes watching eleven players giving 100%.

today was better than any premier league match i have seen at fratton park.

 

michael appleton take a bow my son. we salute you.

 

PORTSMOUTH FOOTBALL CLUB, WE WILL NEVER DIE, NOBODY CAN KILL US.

 

and

 

those players today would have run through brick walls for the blue shirt.

i'm 50 but i tell you what i've never been so proud watching a pompey team.

no players on 20k a week, no players who couldnt give a **** what the score was, no players sitting back and relaxing with a big fat millionaires contract.......

eleven players who bust a gut to win today.

eleven players who all want to desperately play for pompey and michael appleton.

my boy hung about outside for ages after final whistle to get autographs (i ****ed off up pub and left him to it) he told me that appleton chatted to the crowd and said that he cannot believe the passion of pompey fans.

appleton said to the gathering throng that he would work for this club for nothing if he had to because we are the most passionate supporters in the country.

don't know the players names, but several players came out afterwards and said things like thank you for your incredible support today, the dressing room was buzzing afterwards, and you are the only fans in the country who could have turned up today and spurred them on.

my boy said the players he spoke to are desperate to play for the supporters of our great club and michael appleton.

I AM SO PROUD TO BE POMPEY, WOULDNT SWAP IT FOR THE WORLD.

 

And Finally:

 

Michael Appleton, please prepare yourself to be seated alongside Lord Linvoy as the latest legend at my great club.

 

As with Linvoy, you have won me over with your never say die attitude and your downright bloomin' honesty.

 

To have put together a team who played as well as they did today in little under 48 hours AND, to have put up with all the S H 1 T that you have had to face since the end of last season, to me you are a great great man.

 

I honestly don't know what the criteria is for being manager of the season at ANY level, let alone League One, but what you have done as business manager, personnel manager, oh - and in case I forget - FOOTBALL manager (which is what your job says on the tin) puts you way, way above anyone else in England, let alone the feckin' 3rd division right now.

 

Good on ya Michael, and long may you stay here!

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I think 15K home support is pretty good compared to what they are likely to get as an average though. This game enabled them to be joyous for a bit, was against fairly local opposition and was a nice day.

 

It's as good as it gets I'd imagine.

 

indeed if we could average even 13k it would be a good result. either way pulling in the crowd today is a good result all things considered and a good result against promo favourties

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indeed if we could average even 13k it would be a good result. either way pulling in the crowd today is a good result all things considered and a good result against promo favourties

Two sentences and two completely idiotic statements. In which bookies were Bournemouth promotion favourites? In every market I've seen Bournemouth are behind Sheffield United, MK Dons and Swindon, in most they are also behind Preston, Doncaster and Coventry. Secondly, 13k average would put Pompey at about 2/3rd Sheffield United's gates, yet you still seem to be able to outbid them for players.

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As I've spent the last three years of my life, following every page of this most stunning rollercoaster of a topic; variously chuckling quietly to myself, or laughing out loud in genuine hysterics at the priceless comedy, tutting under my breath as they get away with yet something else again, tearing my hair out as they add insult to injury, and even on occasions, temporarily taking leave of my usual calm and balanced demeanor to hurl the odd tirade of obscenities at my monitor upon reading of yet more spurious skate skullduggery, with a few random exceptions, I've usually kept my own counsel, and just enjoyed reading all the fantastic contributions from so many dedicated 'nutjobs'.

 

This evening is a little different however.

 

As the Minister of P*mpey Disinformation - gleefully, arrogantly, boastfully, and infuriatingly smugly "ticked off" a list of names via his dedicated personal propaganda outlet, - something gave way within me.

 

There was a raw, deafening, sickening shattering sound, that reverberated right through me, as the camel's back finally snapped, splintering into something approaching three hundred million shards, as it succumbed to the pressure of just that one flicking V-shaped straw too many.

 

Genuine anger, coursed through me in waves, and found its outlet of expression, in the form of fingers tracing keys, and these words pouring out across the blank canvass of this page, like crimson splattering across pristine unspoiled snow, following an explosive blast. If I'm honest, even in such a slow to anger man as I, it had been slowly building within me, for some time now. Like a coiled cobra, awaiting to strike and spit venom.

 

Neil Allen was merely the sanctimonious incendiary device.

 

Something about the manner of his delivery, had images of that iconic shot of Lowe with the f*cking inane smug smirk etched across his face, rampaging through my mind, and calling down the descending red mists, as if by some ancient pagan incantations, heralding the falling of fire from heaven.

 

All throughout this most captivating "Saga", - the twists and the turns, the exasperation and the laughter, coffee over keyboards, quality over quantity, and a catalogue of really dumbuya's, - I always managed to retain a sense of perspective. "It's just football, and not worth losing my rag over".

 

But, it's not just football though, is it. We're talking about a serially corrupt, criminal operation, that has destroyed lives, financially raped and pillaged, consistently rode roughshod over not just sporting rules, but the laws of nation states, gets off with a slap on the wrist, the slate effectively 'wiped clean', and then immediately re-embarks upon its preferred lifestyle of a serial rampant rapist, without the slightest remorse. Rinse and repeat. Rape. Rinse and repeat.

 

From Serbian tax cheats, to Israeli Arms dealers, convicted fraudsters popping up to 'lend a hand' with the accounts, the ice-cream man to the invisible man, an administration and a Hong Kong loan shark, the FA's "Head of Integrity" to the Russian Mafia, back to the loan shark and have another administration.

 

Business as usual at Fatpipes Park.

 

 

You put f*ck all in,

you take three hundred mill out:

in admin, out, in admin, out

you fake sheik it all about.

You do the plucky p*mpey,

and you turn around,

debt's what it's all about!

 

 

Whoa, the plucky p*mpey

Whoa, the plucky p*mpey

Whoa, the plucky p*mpey,

Knees bent pants down,

Rah rah rah!

 

 

Seven years (or is it eight now? I've lost count!) of living on the "tick" like there's no tomorrow, shafting anyone in sight with the naivety to do business with them, taking what's not theirs and endlessly spunking it all up the wall, like Eddie Mitchell at a "free bar". "What do you mean we've got to pay for it?!?" "It's p*mpey, innit mush!"

 

For some utterly bizarre, insular, island dwelling reason that I simply cannot begin to fathom, p*mpey think they are a "special case", and that the rules do not apply to them. The saddest thing is, that to a certain extent at least, the so called "Governing Body" of our game, seem to actually agree with them!

 

How??? Just how the f*ck can they possibly be allowed to "sign" these new players? Transfer embargo or not, "non contract monthly contracts" or not, sanctions not coming into effect until exiting administration or not, these serially offending cheating c*nts have just spent the past seven years, clocking up and blowing off nigh on £300 MILLION pounds of 'debt' that they likely never had the slightest intention of settling, and f*ck the tax on that, cos "it's p*mpey innit". P*ssing multi millions of other people's money down the fat infested Fratton drains, 'agree' CVA, stick two fingers up at CVA, plunder the life savings of poor Lithuanian pensioners, rack up another near £60 Mill of debt, again, don't worry about tax cos "it's p*mpey innit", 'agree' another CVA you'll never pay, never learn your lessons, carry on regardless.

 

And now here we are. UnAppy bemoaning the "slightly unprofessional" approach of your paymaster telling you it's time to live within your means, all ninety five minutes worth of playing a group of players you can actually (maybe - kind of) 'afford', and despite everything that has gone before, and f*cking over yet more creditors, in come ten new players other League One teams can't afford, to keep up p*mpey's 'divine right' to be "competitive".

 

Whilst the club is teetering on the verge of liquidation.

 

And the bumbling old Football League fools just stand idly by and watch this sick sh*t happen.

 

I was previously of the opinion whilst death was what they deserve, it was fun to keep watching the car crash stumble on, if for nothing else than our daily entertainment and general hilarity. And above all, I didn't want to lose our captivating rivalry. But it has to stop somewhere, and the toothless Football League making a mockery of their own competition by continuing to allow them to keep flicking the V's at all the other Clubs who do cut their cloth accordingly, is the final straw for me.

 

It is a f*cking disgrace. And through all this, the print and broadcast media always remain strangely, outrageously silent in regards to the blatant unfairness of it all, and the endless 'special treatment' afforded to the feckless few.

 

It's like the Emperor's new clothes. Everyone knows they're not wearing any, but for some utterly bizarre reason, no-one seems to have the testicles to just say it like it is: "You're f*cking stark b*llock NAKED p*mpey!!!"

 

I've had enough of this car crash . Had enough of the football world in general and the media's tepid response of "move along now folks, nothing to see here, it's just p*mpey innit!"

 

So you can stick your rivalry up your fatpipes.

 

As Jack so eloquently put it in a film we all know and love:

 

"F*ck you, f*ck fight club, f*ck Marla, I am sick of all your sh*t!"

 

 

 

Just f*cking die now; you f*cking cheating skate c*nts!

 

:adore:

 

Best. Rant. Ever.

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As far as I can see, poopey are in a decent position, for now at least.

While in administration, all they have to do is cover outgoings....regular bills, the TB, and the rest, a decent amount by L1 standards , can go on a squad. They don't have to exit admin until it suits them.

My guess....keep a decent squad going this season, get to 60 points around march, come out of admin under some new loony owner and take the 10 points this season if they are safe...penalty avoided, and promotion push next season paid for by everybody else.

Neat.

Wonder how Cov fans feel...bet they could use Howard.

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Two sentences and two completely idiotic statements. In which bookies were Bournemouth promotion favourites? In every market I've seen Bournemouth are behind Sheffield United, MK Dons and Swindon, in most they are also behind Preston, Doncaster and Coventry. Secondly, 13k average would put Pompey at about 2/3rd Sheffield United's gates, yet you still seem to be able to outbid them for players.

 

Not sure about the Williamson story - rumours have it that he had a falling out with Danny Wilson and was waiting in vain to be picked up by a Championship club. This Pompey stint is his way of putting himself in the shop window and as such Pompey may not have outbid Sheff Utd directly.

 

Today's attendance at FP was quite good and the Bompey fans give praise to the noise levels. Pompey's merry band of mercenaries put on a good show and the troubled skates had a day in the sun. Nutjobs were outraged by Macleod and overjoyed by Barnard. Everyone's a winner for the day :)

 

But. It does not make the slightest difference for reasons listed over and over again during the last few days. Winchester Red gave a reminder on page 1444 (http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?14620-Pompey-Takeover-Saga&p=1444058#post1444058):

 

The PST Bid is both 'realistic and achievable'

 

FFS

 

It's only realistic and achievable if:

 

1) The PCC give you a £1.45m loan even though no lending establishment would touch you or the club

2) Players with legally binding contracts who have already deferred and settled in your favour take a further 75% hit

3) BC walks away for £2.75m even though he's 'put in' up to £18m

 

So this is the economical equivalent of pretending to not hear the ref whistle for offside and play on to score a goal. Nice one chaps, but it won't really count once economical reality catches up with you ;)

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So what I don't understand for months we have heard them whittle ring on about the integrity of the league and how they should be allowed to sign players "to compete"' ( never quite got this as surely any team in any league that is bottom of the league is not "competitive". However, they have signed this current crop of over paid mercenaries on the never never, what happens at the end of the month when they can't afford them. The likes of Bompey, Colchester and Oldham are playing these guys now whereas the likes of Stevenage, Crawley end up playing the players they should be playing now. How does that protect the integrity of the competition? Surely the FL should be making sure that they can afford to pay these players for the whole season

Good point. Hopefully it's moot though, when their results are expunged in a month or so. :D

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As far as I can see, poopey are in a decent position, for now at least.

While in administration, all they have to do is cover outgoings....regular bills, the TB, and the rest, a decent amount by L1 standards , can go on a squad. They don't have to exit admin until it suits them.

My guess....keep a decent squad going this season, get to 60 points around march, come out of admin under some new loony owner and take the 10 points this season if they are safe...penalty avoided, and promotion push next season paid for by everybody else.

Neat.

Wonder how Cov fans feel...bet they could use Howard.

 

Problem with that theory is that any of the players are free to leave, for no fee, even outside the transfer window. If any of their players start playing well consistently, another club will offer them the stability of an actual contract for a reasonable period and the player will walk away. At which point it will be a lot more difficult to pick up replacements.

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Problem with that theory is that any of the players are free to leave, for no fee, even outside the transfer window. If any of their players start playing well consistently, another club will offer them the stability of an actual contract for a reasonable period and the player will walk away. At which point it will be a lot more difficult to pick up replacements.

 

Suppose so. But as usual, other clubs can only look on as poor poopey outbid them with other peoples money.

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Problem with that theory is that any of the players are free to leave, for no fee, even outside the transfer window. If any of their players start playing well consistently, another club will offer them the stability of an actual contract for a reasonable period and the player will walk away. At which point it will be a lot more difficult to pick up replacements.

 

But the problem with YOUR theory is that Portsmouth still hold their registration for the rest of the season unless the player AND club mutually agree to cancel it. Even though they can't receive any transfer fees.

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But the problem with YOUR theory is that Portsmouth still hold their registration for the rest of the season unless the player AND club mutually agree to cancel it. Even though they can't receive any transfer fees.

 

That is what the rules say. I wonder what would happen in the event of another club making an offer of a contract? Given that the players are only signed on a 1 month or 'non-contract' I can't imagine that Portsmouth would be in any position to contest the transfer of the registration if the player's contract had expired. It will be interesting to see the outcome if this situation arises.

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But the problem with YOUR theory is that Portsmouth still hold their registration for the rest of the season unless the player AND club mutually agree to cancel it. Even though they can't receive any transfer fees.

 

I don't think the club do retain the registrations if they allow the monthly agreement to expire ;

 

 

59 Monthly/Multiplicity Registrations

59.1 Subject to Regulation 59.2 below, a Club may register a Player for a period of one (and, for the avoidance of doubt, not less than one) calendar month or more calendar months provided that the registration expires on or before 30 June following registration.

59.2 A Club may only register a Player in accordance with Regulation 59.1 (subject to the provisions of Regulation 41.5) during a Closed Period if he is an Unemployed Player.

59.3 The Club shall complete the prescribed Football League registration form and forward it to the Secretary together with a copy of the contract of employment. For second and subsequent months a monthly extension registration form G1 (extension) must be completed and forwarded to the Secretary.

59.4 Players on a second or subsequent monthly contract are entitled to notice as to whether the Club intends to offer a further period of engagement not later than 7 days before the expiry of that monthly contract.

59.5 Players on a contract for two or more months are entitled to notice as to whether the Club intends to offer a further period of engagement. The notice is not less than 2 weeks before the expiry date where the contract expires on or before 31 December and not less than 4 weeks before the expiry date where the contract expires on or after 1 January.

59.6 On the expiry of a registration under this Regulation a Player is entitled to sign for any Club of his choice without restriction and without payment of any compensation.

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I think you are all completely failing to understand the circumstances of the situation regarding the players we have 'signed'. We are not out bidding anyone, the temporary conditions suit the situation these, in some cases, semi-talented unattached players find themselves in. The loanees will stay, the likes of Williamson, dumbuya, Howard and Harley will all depart once offered decent contracts elsewhere. The fees they are earning are lower than they may potentially earn once match fit and proven in the 'shop window' as it were.

 

There were many scouts there today watching 'our' players and you will all be pleased to know as soon as anyone performs well they will be snatched up elsewhere. To be honest I don't care, I will just take it one game at a time, my sole ambition is to be a small part of a fan buy out. I am excited for the future, good luck tomorrow I am sure you will excel in 'The best league in the world'.

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I think you are all completely failing to understand the circumstances of the situation regarding the players we have 'signed'. We are not out bidding anyone, the temporary conditions suit the situation these, in some cases, semi-talented unattached players find themselves in. The loanees will stay, the likes of Williamson, dumbuya, Howard and Harley will all depart once offered decent contracts elsewhere. The fees they are earning are lower than they may potentially earn once match fit and proven in the 'shop window' as it were.

 

There were many scouts there today watching 'our' players and you will all be pleased to know as soon as anyone performs well they will be snatched up elsewhere. To be honest I don't care, I will just take it one game at a time, my sole ambition is to be a small part of a fan buy out. I am excited for the future, good luck tomorrow I am sure you will excel in 'The best league in the world'.

 

Bet you a tenner they won't. Proceeds to a charity of your choice.

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Oh dear. They have started again...

 

Finally reclaiming the mantle as the best supporters in the land. Couldn't help but feel that the quality of our support waned greatly from around 07 onwards (bar the AC game). However, ever since our troubles have started up, the fans have really rallied around the club. Close to 18k fans today, with those in blue absolutely ******* bouncing. Superb atmosphere today, and one that is recieving compliments from opposition fans over all platforms of social media. It's been a while since I've heard the Park in constant full voice like today - it's still a noise I have not seen matched in any other stadium. Arrogant? No. Just correct. It's time to take our mantle back.
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Some of my skate mates on facebook were boasting about their great support with 17K at Fortress Fatpipes. So I just gave them a bit of perspective by quoting the Saints v Bournemouth attendance in L1: 26,289.

 

Small club with small support, no wonder they find themselves in their current predicament.

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