Whitey Grandad Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/592767855?-11209 Only 1 1/2 hrs to dead line time. then we will see what happens, i think this will be the start of the rot, if they have to withdrawl from tomorrows game. That says that the deadline is tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 That says that the deadline is tomorrow? The ongoing saga has now hamstrung Appleton’s bid to put a team together – before today’s midday registration deadline – for the Capital One Cup trip to Home Park. However, he can still sign players on loan up to three hours before the game kicks off at 7.45pm The *LOAN* deadline if for tomorrow, but you can only sign so many players on loan..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 So, do we think they'll put out a team tomorrow or withdraw from the competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Today's choice of tweets from fans who just don't get it... Hinks7: "1.5m is a crazy wage budget for Appleton! that's only enough for 9 or 10 players on 3k a week! Not even enough for a starting XI! #Pompey" darrenpfc: "Just been told why Lawrence didn't stay with us!! He was offered 3k a week, he wanted 5k(well worth it) they rejected. Shocking #Pompey" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 I wonder if that Neil Allen person reads and worships this BBC chap named Richard Black. Seems very similar in how they put a spin on events. Quote:- Knowing, as all journalists do, that many people read the first few paragraphs of an article and often turn their attention to something else, Black gets the message he wants people to understand in nice and early. If people take nothing else from the article they will get what Black wants them to see: http://autonomousmind.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/bbcs-richard-black-resorts-to-deception-and-spin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Today's choice of tweets from fans who just don't get it... Hinks7: "1.5m is a crazy wage budget for Appleton! that's only enough for 9 or 10 players on 3k a week! Not even enough for a starting XI! #Pompey" darrenpfc: "Just been told why Lawrence didn't stay with us!! He was offered 3k a week, he wanted 5k(well worth it) they rejected. Shocking #Pompey" Can Anybody estimate what our budget was when we had to play the kids during the Dutch duo? You cut your cloth to fit your means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/592767855?-11209 Only 1 1/2 hrs to dead line time. then we will see what happens, i think this will be the start of the rot, if they have to withdrawl from tomorrows game. So, do we think they'll put out a team tomorrow or withdraw from the competition? They have enough players already. They will have to use their under 21 and under 18 squad like any other club would if in financial problems. Trouble is their fans and management etc think they are a special case and shouldn't have to use the youngsters. To aid this over the past few years they have been releasing youngsters they could have used for the first team so they can go begging to the Football League to sign new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Appy walking??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Appy walking??? Oh please, that would be perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Appy walking??? That would be a true miracle seeing how he has been crippled by the FL ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Appy walking??? What makes you think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 They have enough players already. They will have to use their under 21 and under 18 squad like any other club would if in financial problems. Trouble is their fans and management etc think they are a special case and shouldn't have to use the youngsters. To aid this over the past few years they have been releasing youngsters they could have used for the first team so they can go begging to the Football League to sign new players. That deadline is only to sign additional players. In any case, they have enough players already, they will have to use their under 21 and under 18 squad like any other club would if in financial problems. Trouble is their fans and management etc think they are a special case and shouldn't have to use the youngsters. To aid this over the past few years they have been releasing youngsters they could have used for the first team so they can go begging to the Football League to sign new players. Why oh why do you have to keep repeating yourself like some manic stuck record? And I know we played in blue shorts and socks for 50 f*cking years - I only need to be told once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 What makes you think that? Looks like some throw away remark by Neil Allen on twitter has got the natives worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 What makes you think that? Coz, apparently, it's £69.70 2nd class return on the train, and Chinny says that's over his budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Why oh why do you have to keep repeating yourself like some manic stuck record? Because I was making the point to three different people who were raising the same question. Two of them asked the question after my original reply so probably hadn't seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 @TonyHusbandBBC: #pompey Three weeks away at Olympics, back to the news that #pompey have barely a player for tomorrow night at #pafc Talking to MA soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 i don't understand why all these "trialists" are hanging around turning out for them pre-season, must be offered something decent for them to do that, makes you wonder. hopefully they had to play the U18s tomorrow night, anyone know the odds on a Plymouth win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 @TonyHusbandBBC: #pompey Three weeks away at Olympics, back to the news that #pompey have barely a player for tomorrow night at #pafc Talking to MA soon. Cue.."poor hard done by pompey"...."fans don`t deserve it"....blah...puke..blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 On the topic of 'Their true level.' A few assumptions. 1. They are self sustaining and 2. They stick to their budgets (Big, big provisos..... almost impossible but still) Average crowd of 14k for all home games. 3 home cup games a year @ 10k. Sponsorship income of 1m per year. Other income also at 1m. That puts them at a budget of about 10m for a year. We can be generous and say 15m to include any TV money, other income etc. A realistic level for club wages spending seems to be at about 60% of annual turnover. That will give us 9 million pounds a year. In a squad of 25 players that's an avearage of £360k per player. Or £7k a week. They are championship at best on this basis. (It's a vastly simplified model though, I grant you.) It puts the whole economic model of football into context too. To be fair,IMO, their natural realistic level given their support base ,ground, etc, without big outside investment is as a championship/L1 yo-yo club. With a good manager and some stability they ought to be able to live as an established championship club. I'd put them at the same sort of level as say Preston North End or Burnley -- a club wth a massive history, and lots of tradition, but never in the foreseeable future going to be an established premier league team. They might get odd moments in the sun, as have Burnley recently, but they won't last, unless they ever get a serious and genuine fan-owner like Blackburn did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 i don't understand why all these "trialists" are hanging around turning out for them pre-season, must be offered something decent for them to do that, makes you wonder. hopefully they had to play the U18s tomorrow night, anyone know the odds on a Plymouth win? Just got 11/10 on Skybet, buying money. Should pay for my weekend in Manchester! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 adenuff 11:47 AM on 13/08/2012 Come onTrevor, waive your fee, if you love Portsmouth Football Club, or am I just naive ? Anyone here like to answer this tortured 'sole'........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 i don't understand why all these "trialists" are hanging around turning out for them pre-season, must be offered something decent for them to do that, makes you wonder. hopefully they had to play the U18s tomorrow night, anyone know the odds on a Plymouth win? The offer's were made on a kitty of £4m. That kitty is now £1.5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 i don't understand why all these "trialists" are hanging around turning out for them pre-season, must be offered something decent for them to do that, makes you wonder. hopefully they had to play the U18s tomorrow night, anyone know the odds on a Plymouth win? http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/ifil-and-santiago-unlikely-to-stay-1-4155968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Just got 11/10 on Skybet, buying money. Should pay for my weekend in Manchester! Skybet seem to have withdrawn the option to bet on anything other than win/draw/loss. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Not quite, they were still filled with trialists.... I think appy was given the news late last week that the budget had been cut, so he was using the players that he would be able to afford with the new budget..... Which of course any decent manager would have done all pre-season to have the best chance of preparing them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 So the average annual budget in lg1 is around £2m and Pompey have £1.5m. Is that about right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 So the average annual budget in lg1 is around £2m and Pompey have £1.5m. Is that about right? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Did they sign any players before 12.30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Skybet seem to have withdrawn the option to bet on anything other than win/draw/loss. Shame. All the big bookies are only betting Win Draw Lose and the Asian Handicaps on betfair are very weak ,you might get some betfair action early tomorrow evening but I think a Heavy Pmuff loss as a value bet has gone,wish I had some of that 11/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 The *LOAN* deadline if for tomorrow, but you can only sign so many players on loan..... Sorry, I've just seen the bit about 'today's midday deadline'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 All the big bookies are only betting Win Draw Lose and the Asian Handicaps on betfair are very weak ,you might get some betfair action early tomorrow evening but I think a Heavy Pmuff loss as a value bet has gone,wish I had some of that 11/10. Put £100 on it, just in time it seems, that or maybe my "high stakes wager" scared them off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveygwyatt Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Got 50 quid on with will hills at 21/20 plymouth win. Also backed plymouth half time and full time at a tastey 5/2. seems like easy money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Par for the course really Portsmouth have "deferred" payment of their First Debt, circa £159 million first time around They then followed that up by "deferring" their Second Debt, circa £50 million second time around Then Birch "blackmailed" the players to "defer" their rightly owed Salaries for up to Four years hence So, why has it now come as a shock that Birch is now asked to "defer" monies owed to his Company This is PORTSMOUTH FFS Still. it's good to know that the Football League has seen absolutely nothing wrong in all this Pity that they didn't treat Luton, Bournemouth and others in the same lenient manner The Football League must also be corrupt to the core There's a growing band of us who feel that the club/succession of owners/players/agents do have that certain 'influence' over the FL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Looks like Simon Eastwood signed on for tomorrow's match at Plymouth. Don't expect any others. #Pompey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 (edited) @pn_neil_allen: Looks like Simon Eastwood signed on for tomorrow's match at Plymouth. Don't expect any others. #Pompey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Eastwood Goalkeeper, last played for Halifax Town. Rejected a contract at Bradford Park Avenue to join the Skates on trial. Edited 13 August, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 So the average annual budget in lg1 is around £2m and Pompey have £1.5m. Is that about right? Not far off a level playing field really. Whilst the Creditors get a third of that. Should be the other way around. Creditors 1.5m wage budget 500K. No morals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alright Dave Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19159779 This is surely sloppy journalism! They surely can't play trialists in a competitive match can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Eastwood Goalkeeper, last played for Halifax Town.That'll make sense, they've still got the transfer embargo but imagine that the Football League would make an exception for a goalie as Pompey's most senior keeper is the one out of last year's under-16s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 before wacking any money on i want to make sure they can't play the team that beat Bolton and AFC Wimbledon, i think that side would beat Plymouth who are very poor themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19159779 This is surely sloppy journalism! They surely can't play trialists in a competitive match can they? Correct, they can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isplumm Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Looks like Simon Eastwood signed on for tomorrow's match at Plymouth. Don't expect any others. #Pompey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 before wacking any money on i want to make sure they can't play the team that beat Bolton and AFC Wimbledon, i think that side would beat Plymouth who are very poor themselves. They cannot play any trialists. They cannot now make any permanent signings & the loan window for tomorrow shuts in a few hours & again they cannot sign anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 before wacking any money on i want to make sure they can't play the team that beat Bolton and AFC Wimbledon, i think that side would beat Plymouth who are very poor themselves.Yeah, that's my worry, but the temptation to get in at 10/1 for Plymouth to win by 3+ won me over. Plymouth are mid-table League Two quality, but Eastwood's just been released from a Conference North side and he's likely to be their best player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 This is their team against Salisbury - which featured "a handful of triallists" : Pompey: Santiago; Magri, Ifil, Grant, Butler; Compton, Colson, Wallace, Djilali; Higgins, D.Thompson Goals: Compton (pen) 80 Subs not used: Warren, Maloney Penalty scorer Compton was a triallist, as was keeper Santiago, so that's two they can't pick - but they've sorted the keeper issue by signing a reject from Conference North. "Players such as Brian Howard and Izale McLeod, along with former Chelsea left-back Jon Harley, could..." NOT feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 This is their team against Salisbury - which featured "a handful of triallists" : Pompey: Santiago; Magri, Ifil, Grant, Butler; Compton, Colson, Wallace, Djilali; Higgins, D.Thompson Goals: Compton (pen) 80 Subs not used: Warren, Maloney Penalty scorer Compton was a triallist, as was keeper Santiago, so that's two they can't pick - but they've sorted the keeper issue by signing a reject from Conference North. "Players such as Brian Howard and Izale McLeod, along with former Chelsea left-back Jon Harley, could..." NOT feature. Kieran Djilali (ex Palace, ex AFC Wimbledon) was a trialist as well, I'm sure they said there were four trailists but don't know who the fourth was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 For the lolz, their first team squad page on their website now only features Adam Webster and Ashley Harris. I'd absolutely love them to spawn past Plymouth and draw us in the second round. http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/squad/first-team.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Kieran Djilali (ex Palace, ex AFC Wimbledon) was a trialist as well, I'm sure they said there were four trailists but don't know who the fourth was. Cheers, I had heard of Djilali but didn't know why. Still don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Kieran Djilali (ex Palace, ex AFC Wimbledon) was a trialist as well, I'm sure they said there were four trailists but don't know who the fourth was. Jerel Ifil was the other, ex Kettering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Kieran Djilali (ex Palace, ex AFC Wimbledon) was a trialist as well, I'm sure they said there were four trailists but don't know who the fourth was. Jerel Ifil? Edit: beaten to it by a nutjob... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 13 August, 2012 Share Posted 13 August, 2012 Jerel Ifil was the other, ex Kettering.Cheers, it sounds like the sort of player they will be able to afford under Chainrai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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