aintforever Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 As the great Lord Suger put it, 'It's bloody,bloody nuts!!! and it wouldn't be allowed anywhere else in football'. It makes me wonder, not just why they are fighting to keep Pompey alive, but why they treat other teams differently. It's ****ing cloud cookoo land, and not only stinks to high heaven, I expect Oliver Stone to make a thriller about it. The Football League don't actually want any club to be liquidated, it's just us nutjobs. I expect if they were not is such a fragile position they probably would have been punished more points wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 what are you saying then ? That this is all a smoke-and-mirrors act and the DFCSBs cant possibly survive past 10 August ? My birthday is the 11th. I will tell my missus to take the Star Wars Lego and her kinky nurse costume back to the shops - Pompey going puff in a cloud of smoke is all the birthday pressie I'll need. I'll take the lego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Anyone got a link to the FL's conditions that they have imposed in order to receive the golden share? http://www.football-league.co.uk/footballleaguenews/20120712/league-board-makes-membership-offer-to-portsmouth_2293334_2847729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Just a quick question. What was the prize for winning the sweepstake again? Seem to recall I was the only one who said they'd be kicking off the new season in the FL1....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Seem to recall I was the only one who said they'd be kicking off the new season in the FL1....... Fraid not Phil. Ive never thought they would go pop. They will be seriously ill for a long time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 BBC Solent Sport @solentsport Birch buoyed following Kanu exit: Portsmouth administrator Trevor Birch is "encouraged" by the club's progress o... http://bbc.in/Of0YAE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 I'll take the lego I'll take the kinky nurse Lego costume. Uncomfortable as hell (and probably not my size), but as a Dane, it's genetically impossible to decline Lego on offer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Seem to recall I was the only one who said they'd be kicking off the new season in the FL1....... Utter tosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Just a quick question. What was the prize for winning the sweepstake again? Seem to recall I was the only one who said they'd be kicking off the new season in the FL1....... Boll.oxs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 I'd be really interested to know on what grounds Birch is fighting the Kanu claim given that we now know he served his 14 day notice - as Birch told us a few weeks ago he was entitled to do due to reach on contract by PFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 I'd be really interested to know on what grounds Birch is fighting the Kanu claim given that we now know he served his 14 day notice - as Birch told us a few weeks ago he was entitled to do due to breach of contract by PFC. I fixed it for you Job jobbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 I'd be really interested to know on what grounds Birch is fighting the Kanu claim given that we now know he served his 14 day notice - as Birch told us a few weeks ago he was entitled to do due to reach on contract by PFC. I think it is the amount, they are fighting over. Can't be certain, but I think Kanu has included the money that was never paid from CVA1. What I think is more intresting is the timing of all of this. The trust couldn't complete the deal with a 3 million liability claim over them and may be Chinny is pushing back as well. I think birch has to do anything Chinny asks of him right now, just to keep him at the table. Expect Kanu to have 1 million of the 3 acknowledged - But then Birch's next headache is paying him or getting it deferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Utter tosh In Trucko's sweepstake I wish to point out, not in the 3 years worth of posting as to whether we would get to page 100 version:) But the question still remains... What do the events of the last 24 hours or so actually mean to their future? Does this all mean they are now more or less likely to have their new squad of expensive journeymen turn up for their first meeting/training session together vs Bompey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 I'll take the lego Will the kinky nurse's uniform fit me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 One from the archives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 (edited) http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/pompey-s-vision-of-stunning-stadium-1-1278232 A BREATHTAKING new era for Pompey is unveiled as club bosses reveal their £600m plans to build a sensational stadium on Portsmouth waterfront. The vision of the club's future would mean Fratton Park, which was established in 1899, bulldozed and a new stadium built next to the Spinnaker Tower, jutting out into the harbour itself on land that has been reclaimed from the sea. If planning chiefs give the nod, the city is set to see the birth of a stunning new stadium, as part of a massive project which will change the face of both the seafront and Fratton. But despite the amazing scope of the project many councillors – who could hold the key to whether the project goes ahead – only saw the plans for the first time yesterday at a 4pm briefing. The stadium project will mean: A two-tier 36,000-seater stadium built on reclaimed land next to the harbour station HMS Warrior being moved about 150 feet closer to the dockyard to make way for the 13-acre plot A new bowl-shaped ground surrounded by 1,500 luxury flats, up to 22 storeys high A public walkway, or 'urban beach', of 1 acres created around the ground, lined with restaurants, cafes and sports shops A revamped transport hub with a continental-style open piazza The end of the 20,000-seater Fratton Park, which sits on 17 acres of land, which will be turned into homes. The announcement brings to an end months of speculation with several sites being thought likely new homes for the club. Click here to take part in our stadium survey Pompey chief executive Peter Storrie said: 'This will be the most spectacular stadium, set against the backdrop of the harbour and the English Channel, befitting the club's history. 'The club will be playing a big part in the regeneration of the city, and our fans will have the very best in terms of facilities and amenities as well as an excellent viewing experience.' He added: 'Portsmouth Football Club is moving into a new dawn with the backing of owner Alexandre Gaydamak and these are very exciting times for the club both on and off the field. 'The new stadium, along with plans for the club's new training ground at Titchfield, are proof of where we want Pompey to be – playing at the highest level and in a stadium befitting a top Premiership side.' The development is expected to create thousands of jobs during construction and hundreds of permanent jobs once it is completed. Planning applications will be put in to Portsmouth City Council as soon as the club is able to. If all the necessary permission is gained then land reclamation could begin as early as summer 2008. Pompey bosses aim to be playing matches in their new stadium by 2011 and even hope it will feature as one of the Olympic venues for when Britain hosts the Games in 2012. There will also be a new focus on the future of the club with a 3,000-seat family enclosure allowing more young fans to enjoy matches. James Sellar, the chief executive of Sellar Property Group, said: 'This scheme is set to become an international icon reflecting Portsmouth's historic and future status as one of the UK's principal cities.' Both Pompey and Sellar representatives said they were keen to retain the club in the city. The proposals have been given a cautious welcome. The city council's Tory economy spokesman, Cllr Simon Bosher, said: 'Hats off to the football club for coming up with something so radical and innovative. But it raises a lot of questions about security and transportation.' Peter Goodship, chief executive of Portsmouth Naval Base Property Trust, which manages the Historic Dockyard, said: 'We have not really had an opportunity to take in the plans yet.' THE PROPOSAL AT A GLANCE 600m project to build new stadium and redevelop Fratton Park New 36,000-seater stadium between HMS Warrior and Spinnaker Tower Stadium built on what is currently water 1,500 luxury flats at the new stadium 80 executive boxes for 3,000 people New 3,000-seat family enclosure Bulldozing Fratton Park and building hundreds of new homes and flats No new parking spaces for fans Possible new park-and-ride sites at Tipner and north of city Move HMS Warrior Edited 30 July, 2012 by Crab Lungs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 continued... NO PARKING FOR SUPPORTERS A MAJOR TALKING POINT A big surprise in Pompey's plans revolves around the crunch issue of transport to the new stadium, with no parking spaces for fans. Traffic congestion into Gunwharf Quays is already a massive problem, even without tens of thousands of fans adding to the queues. Pompey want to underline the club's green credentials by making sure that most supporters arrive by public transport. Fans will be able to get to the new ground across land and sea by catching trains to Portsmouth Harbour, buses to a revamped station at The Hard and ferries from Gosport and the Isle of Wight. Park-and-ride schemes are also pencilled in at locations such as Tipner or to the north of the city. But apart from spaces underneath the stadium for club officials, players and VIPs, as well as residents of the 1,500 luxury apartments, there will be nowhere for motorists to park. Chief executive Peter Storrie is confident there will be no problem getting the club's city fan base to switch to public transport. City transport boss Cllr Alex Bentley said: 'The design concept is absolutely first rate but my over-riding concern is there are transport issues. Encouraging more cars to that spot is not ideal, it is already packed at lunchtimes and weekends anyway. 'But I know the club is willing to look at these problems and I see it as an exciting challenge.' Tory economy spokesman Cllr Simon Bosher said: 'If you take the park-and-ride from Tipner down to Gunwharf it does ask if there is a future for a monorail in Portsmouth.' See today's paper for more on the proposed new stadium. HOUSING Pompey will build 2,250 new homes in the city as part of their relocation vision. The bulldozed Fratton Park site will make way for around 750 homes, including a mixture of homes, flats and affordable housing units. The new stadium will offer up to 1,500 luxury one, two and three-bed apartments with panoramic views out across the Solent. This will go some way to the city council meeting its housing target – it needs to build up to 15,000 homes over the next 20 years. Sellar Property Group, which is jointly pursuing the plans with Pompey, said there would be a phased development with part of the Fratton site being developed while the club continues to play at the ground.PARTNERS It is not the first time Pompey have teamed up with Sellar Property Group in a bid to push forward bold development projects. The club and Sellar, which was also behind the Roko development on Copnor Road, have already joined forces on the Pompey Centre, a major regeneration currently taking place around the Fratton Park area to build modern flats in one 10-storey and two six-storey blocks. Sellar is also responsible for the famous London Bridge Tower development, known as the 'shard of glass', which is set to become Europe's tallest building at 1,016ft. Sellar owns retail land including the B&Q and KFC sites to the west of Fratton Way. RECLAMATION The future of the 600m new stadium scheme rests on the engineering feat of snatching land back from the sea. The foundations of the new stadium will be anchored in Portsmouth Harbour to hold up about 11 acres of reclaimed land with another two acres built on existing ground. If the scheme is approved, world experts will be working in a depth of about 12 metres, said Neil Hendy, who is the development manager at Sellar Property Development. The owners of the reclaimed land will be Portsmouth City Council and the Ministry of Defence. Portsmouth Football Club hope to take up residence in their new home under a freehold long lease.FUNDING Plans to bulldoze Fratton Park and build a state-of-the-art stadium next to Gunwharf Quays will cost about 600m all told. Sellar Property Group has already been working closely with the football club to unlock the value of the prime land around Fratton Park. Along with Pompey bosses, they say there are several ways of funding the dream scheme – by selling the land at Fratton Park for housing, by the selling price of luxury flats surrounding the new stadium and extra club revenues coming in from the additional 16,000 seats. Pompey chief executive Peter Storrie promised fans that ticket prices would not go up if a sudden funding black hole appeared.WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? The next step is for Pompey to test the water to see what the people of Portsmouth think of their vision. This autumn, the club will take the blueprints to the city council's planning committee. Pompey bosses are confident that planning consent for the Fratton Park redevelopment will be secured at the same time as permission is granted for the waterfront development. Then developers will put in tenders for the work before one or more is chosen to build homes on the sites. But if the plans aren't popular and spark opposition, a public inquiry will be triggered which could dash or delay the plan. If that happens there could be months or years of battles ahead – Brighton and Hove Albion FC are still trying to get permission to build a new stadium in Falmer years after first mooting the idea. And recent history suggests it will not be straightforward – in 2003, then-chairman Milan Mandaric unveiled plans to build a new Fratton Park. But nearby residents voiced opposition because of fears of increased noise and traffic. Gambling bosses were also thinking about building a super- casino as part of the Pompey Village plan, which involved building hundreds of homes, shops, offices and restaurants. Pompey chief executive Peter Storrie said: 'Yes, there have been failed schemes in the past. 'But bringing in our partners has enabled us to put this together and another advantage is we have had months of very careful discussions.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 One from the archives... Who's the architect, Danny Boyle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Haha, brilliant Crabs! They're such a bunch of nutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Who's the architect, Danny Boyle? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Sent an e-mail to the FL, here is the message and reply. Changes f all though! Joe, Thank you for your comments which have been noted. Thank you for contacting The Football League. Regards, Andrew Pomfret Customer Services Officer The Football League Limited Email - enquiries@football-league.co.uk http://www.football-league.co.uk The Football League Ltd. Registered Office - Edward VII Quay, Navigation Way, Preston PR2 2YF. Registered No: 80612. Tel: 0844 463 1888. Fax: 0844 826 5188. London Office - 30 Gloucester Place, London, W1U 8FL. Tel: 0844 826 3099 Follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/football_league From:joe 25 July 2012 09:10 To: FL Subject: portsmouth hi For Portsmouth to not honor the football creditors rule by threatening the players they will get nothing if they do not agree is cheating, it is also blackmail. The players made a bad decision to join Portsmouth, when they may have been offered a contract elsewhere; I believe it is the responsibility of Portsmouth to (with current rules) pay players in full. I believe the players have a case for the club bringing them into disrepute, as well as blackmail. For a club trying to get away with sticking two fingers up at the football creditors rule, it would be like 1 rule for them and 1 for everyone else. Joe The Football League Ltd. Registered Office - Unit 5B. Edward VII Quay, Navigation Way, Preston PR2 2YF. Registered in England & Wales. Reg No: 80612. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 (edited) Pompey chief executive Peter Storrie said: 'Yes, there have been failed schemes in the past. 'But bringing in our partners has enabled us to put this together and another advantage is we have had months of very careful discussions.' He remains my favourite character in this whole saga. So wonderfully and totally incompentent - Especially with his 25 years of footballing experience. Edited 30 July, 2012 by Gemmel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShadow Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Peter Storrie got one thing right in that interview...... Pompey chief executive Peter Storrie said: 'This will be the most spectacular stadium, set against the backdrop of the harbour and the English Channel, befitting the club's history. 'The club will be playing a big part in the regeneration of the city, and our fans will have the very best in terms of facilities and amenities as well as an excellent viewing experience.' He added: 'Portsmouth Football Club is moving into a new dawn with the backing of owner Alexandre Gaydamak and these are very exciting times for the club both on and off the field. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/birch-reflects-on-encouraging-week-1-4108560 So the deferals are being repaid over 4 years, Bari are getting there million spread over 4 years and Kanu's claim is going to be resolved by the Football League. I'd probably need to check with Rallyboy, but sounds like they putting are everything on tick again and pushing more debt onto the future. Same old same old So 5 of the magnificent 8 have walked away from "substantial" sums. I have heard that 5 mutilated bodies of horses have been discovered in hampshire, with their heads missing. A coincidence, I'm sure. So now it's up to Lawrence, Kitson and TBH to hold the fort. And the latter now has Comical Andy as his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Will the kinky nurse's uniform fit me? Is this in place of of the Nuns for next season?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 So 5 of the magnificent 8 have walked away from "substantial" sums. I have heard that 5 mutilated bodies of horses have been discovered in hampshire, with their heads missing. A coincidence, I'm sure. So now it's up to Lawrence, Kitson and TBH to hold the fort. And the latter now has Comical Andy as his agent. Come on lads you can hold out that long, just another 10 days, never mind the blue phew, think how you could become Living Legends for 10's of thousands of Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Right so according to the pompey pravda, Voldemort was happy with the pre-season training camp in Spain. One question, why? So there top goalscoring triallist got injured so they're going to have to give him another week. One of their main targets decided to jump as soon as they got back and is now training with Nottingham Forest. At least 2 were deemed surplus to requirements. They still can't sign any of them. They were beaten 5-1 by Brighton. The massive nation of Gibraltar humiliated them 4-0. Sorry Voldemort but what actually went well? I'm assuming that the players managing to erect their tents, catching sufficient squirrels to keep the party fed, Avram not turning up with little Avram looking for naked monkies & not catching scurvy on the fishing boat on the way home must count. Oh & then King Kanu decides he's not giving up his £3m without a fight... legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Right so according to the pompey pravda, Voldemort was happy with the pre-season training camp in Spain. One question, why? So there top goalscoring triallist got injured so they're going to have to give him another week. One of their main targets decided to jump as soon as they got back and is now training with Nottingham Forest. At least 2 were deemed surplus to requirements. They still can't sign any of them. They were beaten 5-1 by Brighton. The massive nation of Gibraltar humiliated them 4-0. Sorry Voldemort but what actually went well? I'm assuming that the players managing to erect their tents, catching sufficient squirrels to keep the party fed, Avram not turning up with little Avram looking for naked monkies & not catching scurvy on the fishing boat on the way home must count. Oh & then King Kanu decides he's not giving up his £3m without a fight... legend. Apparently there was no fat in the pipes and the (hotel) clock was working ! HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 (edited) Right so according to the pompey pravda, Voldemort was happy with the pre-season training camp in Spain. One question, why? So there top goalscoring triallist got injured so they're going to have to give him another week. One of their main targets decided to jump as soon as they got back and is now training with Nottingham Forest. At least 2 were deemed surplus to requirements. They still can't sign any of them. They were beaten 5-1 by Brighton. The massive nation of Gibraltar humiliated them 4-0. Sorry Voldemort but what actually went well? I'm assuming that the players managing to erect their tents, catching sufficient squirrels to keep the party fed, Avram not turning up with little Avram looking for naked monkies & not catching scurvy on the fishing boat on the way home must count. Oh & then King Kanu decides he's not giving up his £3m without a fight... legend. The ends of natural justice will be served if they go phut. On the other hand they have, since 2009, been the cause of more hilarity and coffee-ruined keyboards than anyone or anything else I can think of. The fact is that its completely free of charge, has gone on for so long, & looks likely to Carry On* for some time yet. Their almost total inability to understand why everyone else finds their plight so funny is the icing on the cake. Lor' bless 'em * maybe one of our more artistically gifted members could draft a poster for 'Carry On P*mpey'? With the usual suspects of course Edited 30 July, 2012 by Waterside.saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 They do realise that when the remaining 3 leave and Chanrai comes back, it'll be so he can get his money? I.e. bleed them dry into L2 and beyond? Has this been completely forgotten? Indeed. They all believe Chinny is riding into town to play the hero and build a Champions League squad - after all, it's what the bestest deserve! They all seem to have conveniently forgotten that the FL have stipulated that Chinny must wipe out a 'proportion' of his secured debt. I can only imagine how much money he would be prepared to sink into the money pit having given up a couple of million quid! I suspect it's equivalent zero pence per annum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Genuine question: why don't the departing senior players just peg their demands to the arrival of the next parachute payment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 They do realise that when the remaining 3 leave and Chanrai comes back, it'll be so he can get his money? I.e. bleed them dry into L2 and beyond? Has this been completely forgotten? How long have you been posting and following this thread? And then you have the nerve to post a question wondering whether any pcfc fans have intelligence to have worked out something as simple as this? Of COURSE they've forgotten. It wasn't that long ago they were wanting to burn the evil witch money lender. You wait he'll get freedom of the city for getting rid of the evil 8 and saving the club. I suppose it must be the fact that they impregnate their bog rolls in portsea with that magic spray physios use and their beer with rhopynol. It means they never seem to remember any pain each time they get butt ****ed, and it comes as a shock each time it happens to them. But as they never remember buying beer & their mum's buy the loo rolls it's never their fault they bend over and ask for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Has neil allen tweeted yet that it was a lad from Southampton that blew the gold medal in the 10m Sync diving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Sorry if already posted but things have got worse for P*mpey, they've been forgotten on the National Football Museum's map of clubs. Zoomed in below Outrageous that this has happened to such a massive club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Genuine question: why don't the departing senior players just peg their demands to the arrival of the next parachute payment? Because the two potential new owners (Chainrai and The Trust) have made their offers of taking over the club conditional on the players relinquishing what they are owed. If the players chose to ignore these demands and instead hang on for the parachute payments they (supposedly) wouldn't get them because the club would be liquidated and the parachute payments would then be withheld and redistributed to other clubs by the Premier League (so the prevailing wisdom goes) So, in other words, the players are being forced to give up what is rightly theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Ha ha ha, Guided Missile is winding up the Skates an absolute treat over on POL (or was before he got himself banned again). There's a thread called "Scummers/Linkage" and GM has got their site admin PompeyScot threatening to sulk off and take his ball with him, the rest of the inbreds are absolutely fuming at it all. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 30 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Birch's assertation that Kanu is now "off their hands" is staggering - if it has gone to independant tribunal that does not mean to say P********h won't get financially hammered should the tribunal rule in Kanu's favour. Birch is deluding himself and the best fans in the world to suggest otherwise. This is a classic but desperate three card trick being played by a man who quite frankly should know better. Kanu is entitled to millions, the tribunal will almost certainly ensure he gets it. I think Birch has just ordered a pint in the last chance saloon. I wish I was there to watch him drink it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Ha ha ha, Guided Missile is winding up the Skates an absolute treat over on POL (or was before he got himself banned again). There's a thread called "Scummers/Linkage" and GM has got their site admin PompeyScot threatening to sulk off and take his ball with him, the rest of the inbreds are absolutely fuming at it all. :lol: Carry to C+P some of it for our entertainment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Looks to me like Birch is in the process of liquidation already, 3 players left - there's not much left to liquidate. The thing is if he was going to liquidate this is how he would do it. He wouldn't get anything for the players if he just came out and announced it's liquidation time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 (edited) Birch's assertation that Kanu is now "off their hands" is staggering - if it has gone to independant tribunal that does not mean to say P********h won't get financially hammered should the tribunal rule in Kanu's favour. Birch is deluding himself and the best fans in the world to suggest otherwise. This is a classic but desperate three card trick being played by a man who quite frankly should know better. Kanu is entitled to millions, the tribunal will almost certainly ensure he gets it. I think Birch has just ordered a pint in the last chance saloon. I wish I was there to watch him drink it. It might be fun to speculate on what the landlord of said LCS is pulling for him. Fools Gold (4% abv, Four Thorns of York New Brewery) perhaps? Or how about Tick or Cheat (4.0% abv, Buntingford) Or Ship of Fools (6.7% abv, Ramsgate) Edited 30 July, 2012 by Waterside.saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Because the two potential new owners (Chainrai and The Trust) have made their offers of taking over the club conditional on the players relinquishing what they are owed. If the players chose to ignore these demands and instead hang on for the parachute payments they (supposedly) wouldn't get them because the club would be liquidated and the parachute payments would then be withheld and redistributed to other clubs by the Premier League (so the prevailing wisdom goes) So, in other words, the players are being forced to give up what is rightly theirs. I think - simply for PR reasons - if I was Kanu's agent or TBH's agent, I'd say "We are aware that the club will close if we demand payment now. However, a further £11m of parachute payments are available if the club survives. It is unclear why this money should be used as a windfall bonus for any potential new owners. In consequence, we are willing to defer any claims under the football creditors rule until these payments arrive and are happy to do so at an interest rate of 0%". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 I think - simply for PR reasons - if I was Kanu's agent or TBH's agent, I'd say "We are aware that the club will close if we demand payment now. However, a further £11m of parachute payments are available if the club survives. It is unclear why this money should be used as a windfall bonus for any potential new owners. In consequence, we are willing to defer any claims under the football creditors rule until these payments arrive and are happy to do so at an interest rate of 0%". Well put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 (edited) I think - simply for PR reasons - if I was Kanu's agent or TBH's agent, I'd say "We are aware that the club will close if we demand payment now. However, a further £11m of parachute payments are available if the club survives. It is unclear why this money should be used as a windfall bonus for any potential new owners. In consequence, we are willing to defer any claims under the football creditors rule until these payments arrive and are happy to do so at an interest rate of 0%". PFA chief Gordon Taylor alluded to his members offering that very compromise to the "potential new owners" last week but, once again, the British media and press simply glossed over it. To me, Taylor's comments last week were amongst the most important we've heard throughout this saga but they were never followed up by the media/press. Edited 30 July, 2012 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Sorry if already posted but things have got worse for P*mpey, they've been forgotten on the National Football Museum's map of clubs. Zoomed in below Outrageous that this has happened to such a massive club Love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kirkup Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Just a thought, if they do an oldco/newco/newco2 trickwill that actually leave anyone for King Kanu to pursue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 My question is what is it that Birch is offering the players who have left in order for them to be leaving with significant money owed to them ? As administrator what control does he have over future parachute payments ? Is he offsetting the departed players' contracts against the parachute payments due, and therefore taking control of them out of the future club's hands ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 What would happen if the trust and chinny joined together? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 My question is what is it that Birch is offering the players who have left in order for them to be leaving with significant money owed to them ? As administrator what control does he have over future parachute payments ? Is he offsetting the departed players' contracts against the parachute payments due, and therefore taking control of them out of the future club's hands ? Its the classic Pompey trick; renegotiate monies that you owe but can't pay now, and structure them to be "paid" over a number of years in the future. Then, when the time comes to pay what you owe (but can't afford to do so), its time to default again, and Admin 3 since 2010 is on the cards. And Trevor Birch will be long gone before then, with his nice £1M plus fee in his back pocket and a hearty slap on the back for all of his efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 Carry to C+P some of it for our entertainment? Hi all, Just to confirm a couple of things, just a couple of ways we approach things. Scummers - As Fratts has been saying, we don't in general allow Scummers on here. I know some have asked why previously, both Pompey and Southampton fans, so here's why. Basically, it is too much hassle. You see, for example, the bit of fuss which was created during that little discussion with Crab Lungs the other day, which was perfectly reasonable and debated, but some just found it out of order because he is from down the road. Also, previously when we did allow them on here, we got more than a fair share of them coming on with the 'You Skate b*stards' type of posts, which just inflamed things. So, fact is it gives us real grief caused by sections of fans from both sides and, really, we have real lifes, real outside jobs (for example, my work nowadays gives me extremely limited time on the forum during the day) and have limited amount of time, so our time could be better spent elsewhere. Two questions come to mind with this though which people have put to me previously, on here and Twitter; 1) But Bill, we allow you on our site (TSF) - I've asked about this previously, no you don't. I believe that Pompey fans aren't allowed to post on the main forum over there, and TSF has a more general set up than we have. Besides, how TSF run doesn't mean we have to follow suit. Secondly, linkage - This is something I requested previously, but just want to reiterate as well as just putting a more general request. I would be grateful (note, I am asking here as a general courtesy more than anything) that if somebody posts a link from an external site that they also paste the article or feature they are linking to onto their post. External links can be included as well, they're not a no-no, it's just as a common courtesy if the text can be pasted as well. Cheers. Think that's all Cheers all. Bill, Many thanks for that clarification and I now appreciate the depth of your blind hatred for Saints fans, even the ones that are sympathetic to your cause and thus the reason that I was banned and my IP blocked. I have no problem you running your site in the style of the Third Reich and should you ever want to start burning books, feel free. I must admit, it was extremely amusing that you explained your reasons to me, after banning my user name and blocking my IP address, thus preventing me reading your ramblings under my old user name, Missiles. I now also realise by the thread above, that you actually followed the Twitter link I posted and realised that it was not me that started the rumour about Harry Redknapp and his consortium, but a Pompey fan with the same degree of hatred for Saints fans. I was suprised to read that some thought that I posted the story about myself and Paul Walsh to impress Pompey fans. Well I hardly think that would be the goal of a Saints season ticket holder. I had a long chat with Paul at St. Marys Stadium before the Ajax game, together with Pompey's former commercial director who was there. Paul and a potential buyer held a meeting with Trevor Birch last week and it was fascinating hearing the details of their meeting. You should all really logon to TSW to read my upcoming thread with details about it. They allow Pompey fans on that site. As I said, I have no problem with the way you run the site and your sychophants that share your rabid mentality obviously lap it up. What they may be less enthusiastic about is your habit of sharing personal details, such as my email address, with third parties and thus in apparent contravention of the Data Protection Act. I am lucky enough to have your personal details, Bill Gillon and will be instructing my solicitors to contact you, so that they can reassure me that this was not the case and that you will not be indulging in this activity in the future. Alternatively, contact me by email so that we can avoid the expense of legal advice. I think you have my details. As I said, if anybody ever wonders why we don't allow them on here, then pillocks like this one are a good example as to why. If you want to threaten me with legal action, go ahead, but can you please point out where I have actually given personal details of yours to anybody? I suggest you read what I actually said again. But, instruct your solicitors if you wish, I await their correspondence By the way, you can put my real name out if you like, everybody knows it. It's on my Twitter account for starters. Plus, and this is a final say in this and the moderators can be aware of this, ban Scummers on sight and I'll tell you why, and it's something which I've mentioned recently. I had family, on my grandad's side, killed in Poland in Krakow, and my grandad escaped and came over here at the beginning of WWII. Now, to see a ***** like you start comparing the way we run a bloomin' forum with that, you can imagine how I feel about that one. Big fecking joke to you though, isn't it, banter's all good. Maybe some people should have a think about what they write and the effect it might have on some. Of course, you might have thought that anyway, which would say a lot about you. So, feck them, have had enough of them, no more of them. I'm going to log off for a bit as, to be honest, this has fecked me off big time. If just the matter of running a football forum gets this sort of thing, it's maybe not worth it. Question Bill? How the feck did he get on again? Wouldn't I be right in saying each newbie has to be approved by your and the mods? No mate, we have a free register but email addresses have to be confirmed (an email is sent with a link which people have to click on). Manual admin registering isn't something I've ever been overly keen on, as it's an overhead for us and, as mentioned, it can cause hold ups for those who genuinely want to join and post. I may not be around much over the next couple of days, people may need to excuse me, as I'm pretty upset/fecked off and raging with this *****. Pompey Scot then tweeted about why anyone would wonder why he has extreme hatred for all Saints Fans. He removed my tweet in reply which said:@GuidedMissile;@PompeyScot - Maybe it's because you're a sweaty bigot, Bill. Have another lie down. It's only a game of football He's so upset he's now made his twitter account private and I'm sure I could hear him sobbing in Fareham from here. Shame I'm banned from there, because I'm unable to post details of the interesting chat I had with Walshie at the Ajax game about his meeting with Trevor Birch the week before, together with a billionaire Asian investor, regarding the purchase of Pompey. Funny as feck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 July, 2012 Share Posted 30 July, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Touching interview today with @GregHalford15 over his #Pompey sacrifice. There are players out there who do get what clubs mean to fans. Shame there aren't any journalists who get what a morally corrupt club means to c.£130m worth of creditors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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