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Surprise, Surprise. Players prepared to do deals again the future parachute payments but chinny does not want that.

 

Indeed. Yesterday Chainrai breaks his silence to join the bandwagon of people hounding the players and here is Gordon Taylor telling it like it is (at long long last) - he's saying the ball is firmly in Chainrai's court to ensure the players receive the money they are due from the parachute payments.

 

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/sports-breakfast/120724/taylor-carroll-modric-and-portsmouths-fight-survival-177226

 

Maybe now, the likes of Allen and his merry band of finger pointers will re-direct their vitriol towards the real villain in all this....there again, perhaps that's asking too much....

 

I agree with Gordon Taylor: It's Chainrai that is slowly killing the club, not the players. And the Pompey fans are doing their upmost to pave the way for his return....:facepalm:

 

They really aren't very bright, are they?

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Indeed. Yesterday Chainrai breaks his silence to join the bandwagon of people hounding the players and here is Gordon Taylor telling it like it is (at long long last) - he's saying the ball is firmly in Chainrai's court to ensure the players receive the money they are due from the parachuite payments.

 

Maybe now, the likes of Allen and his merry band of finger pointers will re-direct their vitriol towards the real villain in all this....there again, perhaps that's asking too much....

 

Absolutely.

 

We have now had the first official confirmation that they players can have some of the parachute money and that the PL have agreed with the PFA..... But the new owner doesnt want this.... No **** sherlock.

 

Perhaps just as intresting, that the amount of money owed to other football clubs means that if al the players ripped up their contracts, there would still be issues............ two days after Dean Saunders can't keep a player he wants, because another club have come in for him, that they can't get anywhere near the offer he has had from the other club.

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A transcript of part of the Gordon Taylor interview this morning:

 

"Portsmouth has been a problem for a long long time now. It's been badly handled. Our members there have given up wages for a long long time. They're looking at trying to help save the club. They were prepared to do settlements and compromise on that. We got cooperation from the Premier League for future parachute monies to at least guarantee those payments that they were prepared to wait years to get back but the potential new owner of the club doesn't want that to happen and so it's a real stand-off at the moment"

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Why should it be any business of Chainrai's how any agreements are made anyway? All he has stated publicly is he will not take over until the wage bill is reduced. If Birch makes agreements against the future parachute payments to reduce that wage bill then Chainrai should not have any input. One assumes he has privately told Birch that he will not take over if the parachute payments are used that way but then Chainrai is not the only interested party is he? What is to stop Birch reaching agreements with the players against the future PPs and then to sell the club to the trust if Chainrai refused to carry through with the CVA?

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I'm trying to start a rumour from my twitter account. I think it's a nice idea, maybe their company documents can be set on fire by the Olympic flame. Millions round the world cheer as Le Tissier carries the Olympic tourch up to Birch and together they burn the fish fukcers into the history books..... Just an idea mind.

 

Instead of a torch they could use the flaming head of a pleasure fish?

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A transcript of part of the Gordon Taylor interview this morning:

 

"Portsmouth has been a problem for a long long time now. It's been badly handled. Our members there have given up wages for a long long time. They're looking at trying to help save the club. They were prepared to do settlements and compromise on that. We got cooperation from the Premier League for future parachute monies to at least guarantee those payments that they were prepared to wait years to get back but the potential new owner of the club doesn't want that to happen and so it's a real stand-off at the moment"

 

What is really interesting about how that was phrased is that Gordon Taylor was only trying to get the Parachute Payments used to guarantee future payments of the Compromise Agreements and Chanrai wouldn't even accept that.

 

What that says to me (and my job is negotiating contracts) is that whatever the Players agree, Chanrai has no intention of ever paying anything - not a penny. He is determined to avoid any legal mechanism that forces him to eventually make any payment.

 

As everyone has said all along, he just wants to pocket the Parachute Payments and then sell the club for £1 to the PST and then rent them the ground for £1m/season and pass this problem on to someone else... or simply liquidate them after receiving the PP's and then redevelop the ground.

 

The Few have to recognise that there is NO way forward other than to abandon the current club and start again. Unfortunately, again as has been said many times, this needed to be done a year ago.

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@pn_neil_allen: Early team news for #Pompey game tonight (5pm BST). Simon Eastwood is nursing a knock so Gibraltar keeper Jordan Perez in squad.

 

:lol:

 

Might as well just play the complete Gibraltar squad.

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http://chelsea.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=530236#.UA5NVQ7RjIE

 

What I thought was - what if we loaned Pompey a job lot of our promising kids. With eight senior players on the roster it is safe to say they'll get more games than poor Josh did at Swansea last season. Say we loaned them six or seven players. We agree to pay their wages, they get guaranteed first team football, albeit in League One

Could a motivated, hungry mixture of Pompey's best and brightest and our youngsters get Pompey out of League One, even with a ten point deduction?

 

I have no idea, but it would be nice to dream.

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Brilliant!

 

WTFILN

 

Eight pages to go.

 

 

I bet there are more than that to go before the end :lol: I got up this morning and from when I went to bed

4 pages had appeared about not too much. There will probably be about 15 pages If they go bang in the next

few hours. Ah well off to bed soon it's now 22.27 on the 24th.

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I don't understand why Pompey fans are scapegoating the players and not Chanrai.

 

To truly save their club then NEED to liquidate and start again.

 

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

 

Or in the case of Baloo - Fool me 3 times and call me a psychiatrist!

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If anyone is interested I think this says Daddy lost his claim against Leviev over the "Blood diamonds in Angola"

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2012/1740.html

 

88 Mr Gaydamak was asked about the money that Mr Leviev had paid him in respect of his alleged 50% interest in the Angolan diamond and other businesses. He accepted that payments had been made from 2001 to 2005, not 2003 as he had said in his statement. And he contended that, overall, between US$100m and US$150 million had been paid at the rate of approximately US$2-3 million per month until January or February 2005 (first to Calsen, then to Pusan, and finally to Antanta, with less being paid towards the end of the period). He said he had ultimately split these sums 50/50 with his then partner Mr Pierre Falcone ("Mr Falcone")

 

Is this just a bit of a coincidence that this bloke's name bears a remarkably close resemblance to Falcondrone Ltd, the British Virgin Islands based company supposedly owned by the fake Sheik, Al Faraj?

 

I lose track of all the conspiracy theories mooted in this thread. Has anybody done any digging on this one?

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Mr Knight speaks a lot of sense..."if we'd taken our medicine (liquidation last time) we'd be half way back by now"

 

Mark Saggers laying into the players though....

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Aaaarrrggghhhhh!!!!!

 

I've been away from here for 4 weeks - 28 days - left the day after the CVA proposal, which I thought had a 28 day cooling off period and therefore Chinny had to decide on or before the 23rd whether he was going to go ahead or not? Or did I misunderstand that?

 

Anyway, I've only got 61 pages to read to catch up with all the fun and laughter......................

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Mr Knight speaks a lot of sense..."if we'd taken our medicine (liquidation last time) we'd be half way back by now"

 

Mark Saggers laying into the players though....

 

Saggers is missing the point with the players. They're being asked to give up money to line Chinnys pockets. Knight saying that the well is dry so the players need to understand it...but the well isn't dry. FFS, it's not rocket science.

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Is this just a bit of a coincidence that this bloke's name bears a remarkably close resemblance to Falcondrone Ltd, the British Virgin Islands based company supposedly owned by the fake Sheik, Al Faraj?

 

If you really pushed me for an answer on this, I'd probably just about say No.

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Banned from POL for daring to suggest they should be worried that the club's no longer selling tickets. Sheesh they are touchy.

 

I got banned because of my user name, I can`t see any harm in calling one self Russell Hobbs.

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A transcript of part of the Gordon Taylor interview this morning:

 

"Portsmouth has been a problem for a long long time now. It's been badly handled. Our members there have given up wages for a long long time. They're looking at trying to help save the club. They were prepared to do settlements and compromise on that. We got cooperation from the Premier League for future parachute monies to at least guarantee those payments that they were prepared to wait years to get back but the potential new owner of the club doesn't want that to happen and so it's a real stand-off at the moment"

 

He got his first sentence right!

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I thought the whole point of the parachute payments were so when a club was relegated they could afford to play the players on higher wages their wages until they could be offloaded or the team was promoted back to the premier league, not to pay off debts to your owner. As in all business, you gamble if your company goes t*ts up you lose your money.

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[h=2]This has just been posted on 'Football 411.com' . You could not make this up - I fell about laughing

 

Nigerian lifeline for Pompey[/h]FrattonParkbarbedwireview_2726902.jpg

 

 

 

Nigerian businessman West Oftym believes he may be able to save English club Portsmouth from dropping out of existence.

Dear Hello Sir,

I am West Oftym, brother of Taribo West, the very excellent one-time player from Nigeria and Milan. I have been in several meetings and have concluded that we would be liking to buy the Pompeymouth Football Club of Portspey.

We are backed by the Hong Kongolese People's National Bank and would like to be paying 16 Million Pounds for the club and helping make it back to the top like it were when the most gifted Nigerians like John Utaka and N****wo Kanu were making it famous.

Our plan is to invest the club and make Fat One Park awesome. We have players in Nigeria with their own boots and fine skills who will play for petrol and a British wife. It will be a most beneficial arrangement.

This email has been sent to you because we found your email on our list of good people who can help.

For more details and for us to be pay you the 16 million pounds purchase price please contact Mr. West Oftym of Hong Kongolese People's National Bank PLC. Please send the below information:

FULL NAME:

PHONE NUMBER:

YOUR OCCUPATION:

YOUR CONTACT ADDRESS:

My Email: west_oftym@ymail.com

Making the world a better place.

Mr West Oftym

 

 

 

Posted: 24/07/12 12:42

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