trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 (edited) @officialpompey: Portsmouth Football Club statement: http://t.co/fM0i90Vk #pompey Portsmouth FC Commences Redundancy Consultation The administrators of Portsmouth Football Club (2010) Ltd have this afternoon commenced consultation with staff at the club about possible redundancies. Trevor Birch, a partner at PKF and joint administrator of Portsmouth Football Club, said: “Under the terms of the CVA that was agreed with creditors at the end of June, Portpin agreed to complete its purchase of the club on the condition that the wage bill was reduced through player sales and compromise agreements. “We have made progress in this respect over the past few weeks but there is still more that needs to be done if the club is to meet the pre-conditions for Portpin’s purchase. Time is running out and, unless I can see a greater probability of player sales and compromises being completed in the near-term, the purchase will not go ahead and the club will have to close. “We have spoken to all of the club’s staff and players and started a redundancy consultation period. I sincerely hope that we can complete the sale of the club and avoid the need for redundancies – and I will continue to do all I can to safeguard the future of the club – but I believe that staff need to be aware of the situation so that they have as much of an opportunity as possible to explore other options. “This has been an incredibly difficult time for the staff, many of whom have loyally served the club for a number of years, and I recognise that it is extremely upsetting for them. Today’s announcement is not in any way a reflection on them – in fact, I’m sure that we would not have got this far without their support.” Edited 20 July, 2012 by trousers
MOSaint Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 By demands, does he mean the amount of money they are legally entitled to as outlined in their contracts?
sussexsaint Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 By demands, does he mean the amount of money they are legally entitled to as outlined in their contracts? yes, yes he does
trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 (edited) And so the hounding begins....didn't expect it from an upstanding BBC journalist though.... Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport With staff at #pompey now facing redundancy, some of the greedy senior players holding out for cash they don't need should be ashamed Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport I'm not saying #pompey owners and boardroom's aren't responsible for mess, but NOW as things stand, there are players who could save jobs >> Edited 20 July, 2012 by trousers
ottery st mary Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 (edited) Players standing firm...Liquidation.. TB has known this for a while.. A few staff reduncies will make no difference.. Were the players contracts TOO BIG by chance.... Edited 20 July, 2012 by ottery st mary
Gemmel Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 I tell you what, there's no flies on old trev.... Sharp as knife that bloke. Should be an intresting conversation when he explains to his boss, that liabilities have gone up since he took the reigns. Sterling work agent Birch, take your seat next to Peter.... No not that one, that's where Al Farahj is sitting
trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 (edited) And there's more....not a pretty sight.... Liam Buckler @Liam_Buckler @GregHalford15 why can't you comprehend as a pompey player that you have to leave NOW? If you/ teammates fail to grasp this then we're dead Mick Williams @mickwill @Liam_Buckler@GregHalford15 and players will get NOTHING in liquidation as well as everyone else. Sad times! #Pompey Phill Russell ™ @Phill_Russell Those 8 senior players should be ashamed of themselves. Poor staff being sacrificed once again. Players aren't bigger than the club #Pompey Liam Buckler @Liam_Buckler @mickwill@GregHalford15 baffles me that there are players still left. Oh, you really love the club? It really shows it. Ridiculous #pompey Greg Miles @Greg_KOS_sport If #Pompey get liquidated because 8 already well paid footballers don't want to lower their wages demands, they will have to go into hiding. Russell @RussellSFC Ben Haim remains on £35k per week yet normal members of staff of #Pompey get made redundant, absolute disgrace. Edited 20 July, 2012 by trousers
qwertySFC Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Its actually worse than you have shown it Qwerty. They are not having their 20p reduced to 2p in the pound. They are having 2p of their 20p, which equates to 0.4p. If you were owed a million before you would have got 200k.... that 200k, is now 4 grand. It really is disgraceful - Yet still employing a new coach and the biggest insult is employing those on 20k A WEEK whilst knowing they owed this much to so many - and now offering a measly 0.4p to people who traded in honest ways yet get shafted again to help the club out - The Brass nerve really is unbelievable
fanimal Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 And they havent got the -10 on the league table to put them bottom - completely in denial as always. it is going to get so ugly and recriminatory next week as reality FINALLY bites.
trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Greg Halford @GregHalford15 I understand every fan worrying about Pompey. The players are as well. I would love to be able to answer everyone's questions Greg Halford @GregHalford15 Tell ya what I'll do a Q and A either over the weekend or on Monday.
trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Did we ever get to a definitive answer on here as to whether the players would get anything from another source (PFA, Parachute Payments, FL, etc) if Pompey go into liquidation? I seem to recall it being as inconclusive as ever the last time it discussed
St Marco Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Pathetic behaviour by the bestest and the local media. If BBC Solent had to make cut backs and if Adam left meant they could keep two others in a job would he leave? Of course not. Easy for people like him and Neil to slag off the players. WHy not have a go at Chinny and ask him to drop the debt he is owed? Just shows how far they have fallen that they are blamming the players now. They just brought in some new staff and took a bunch of people not connected to the club to Spain in the hope they will woo them into signing. How about using that money to pay the charities instead? As far as i'm concerned I hope they go under as at no point have they ever put the blame on the people who deserved it i.e the management and the owners. Rather then hounding out the players they should be having a go at the owners. No doubt this will be the excuse they use to pull out of the deal when in reality the FL statement recently was probably the real reason why Chinny wants to pull out.
trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport Amazing how many #saintsfc fans are suddenly sticking up for #pompey players ? They'll get nothing if #Pompey go under, & u lose your rivals "Suddenly"????
Jonnyboy Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 I think that if they want to cancel player contracts they should be forced to hand back their FA Cup win and get their name removed from the records.
Gemmel Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Did we ever get to a definitive answer on here as to whether the players would get anything from another source (PFA, Parachute Payments, FL, etc) if Pompey go into liquidation? I seem to recall it being as inconclusive as ever the last time it discussed The only update we've had was Scudamore evading the question, but then confirming that the Parachute payments, could be diverted to pay football creditors. I think the players are covered.
ottery st mary Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 I wonder if Mr Lampitt is or has given up on his unfair big pay day claim? Pompey is bust..
Saints foreva Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Is Adam Blackmore a Skate? Always seems to stick up for those lot down the road.
trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 The only update we've had was Scudamore evading the question, but then confirming that the Parachute payments, could be diverted to pay football creditors. I think the players are covered. So why is there an impartial BBC reporter saying they won't get anything....? (that's a bit of a rhetorical question)
SaintRichmond Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 yes, yes he does Can't someone send a "wake up" message to Birch and copy it to the FL and all the papers He is DELIBERATELY distorting the FACTS Absolutely disgraceful The man should not be in charge of the Administration
Matthew Le God Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 (edited) Is Adam Blackmore a Skate? Always seems to stick up for those lot down the road. I think he is aware that if Pompey go under he will have to make cuts with his commentary team with no Pompey professional football games to cover. Possible conflict of interest for BBC Radio Solent in their reporting of this? Edited 20 July, 2012 by Matthew Le God
trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 PST Spokesperson @pompeytrust @GregHalford15 The simple fact is Greg, all the senior players need to go. Now. Please. The club will die otherwise. Help PFC survive
qwertySFC Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 PLEASE REMEMBER - PFC agreed to pay players 20k a week - whilst already owing millions why should the BBC and especially the snooze ( who are owed over £20,000 from CVA 1 ) want to have a poor old Pompy attitude - when these honest individuals and business get 0.4 pence - where is the moral stance - ok to shaft and rip off the public now want to turn over the ones they lorded over - Please just put this club down FFS
buctootim Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Is Adam Blackmore a Skate? Always seems to stick up for those lot down the road. Theres no mileage in a local radio station presenter telling one third of his audience that their club must die.
trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 FM Saints Researcher @MatthewLeGod @bigadamsport Will BBC Radio Solent need to lay off staff if there are no Portsmouth games to cover? Conflict of interests? Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport @MatthewLeGod Get a bloody grip - the whole world isn't a conspiracy theory!!
qwertySFC Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 FM Saints Researcher @MatthewLeGod @bigadamsport Will BBC Radio Solent need to lay off staff if there are no Portsmouth games to cover? Conflict of interests? Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport @MatthewLeGod Get a bloody grip - the whole world isn't a conspiracy theory!! Why has Mr Blackmore not been commenting upon the people who have already lost thousands of pounds whilst being associated with a "Professional Football Club" -
Son of Dave Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 No, this cannot be right, are the bestest really turning on their own players ? Were'nt these the same bestest fans applauding the same group of Appy's plucky loyal warriors / heroes / soldiers for turning down moves in January ? It's funny the things people will do or say when the reality of their predicament becomes apparent, syill the cup win was worth it all....
trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 (edited) Gary Bell @pompeygary @GregHalford15 There will be blood on the streets if the club fold. #Pompey Mike Onslow @MikeOnslow @pn_neil_allen Is it right that it's so easy for #Pompey to fire honest hard-working staff and impossible to fire money grabbing players? Colin Farmery @colinfarmery @MikeOnslow@pn_neil_allen Players are staff too... #Pompey Edited 20 July, 2012 by trousers
saint si Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Oh wow, threats of physical violence. Stay classy skates.
qwertySFC Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Gary Bell @pompeygary @GregHalford15 There will be blood on the streets if the club fold. #Pompey Its going to get very nasty for the players and this public outburst of hatred of the players is just shameful. How come no one has Tweeted about the small self employed sole traders who's bill of £6,000 is now worth a few quid. Where were the bestest fans then ??? . When they signed Kitson and the other bloke upon a combined £160,000 a MONTH - when small business were being shafted and just dumped on the scrap heap - 6k may not sound like a lot of money but the ramifications of that 6k not EVER being paid - yet still whinge about their hero's now needing to F))) Off with the same treatment is just shameful - I wish some one in the media would explain to me how these fans actions are deemed to be justified !!!!!!!!!!
Waterside.saint Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Trevor Birch says #Pompey will be liquidated before season starts unless the 8 senior players lower their money demands. More soon. Whoopee! I'm plugging the toaster in again
pedg Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Does not look like it is going to happen today though. *walks away ripping up PTS lottery ticket*
Waterside.saint Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 I think that if they want to cancel player contracts they should be forced to hand back their FA Cup win and get their name removed from the records. Quite right, one would expect that from a club with some integrity. So no chance then
Waterside.saint Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Gary Bell @pompeygary @GregHalford15 There will be blood on the streets if the club fold. #Pompey Mike Onslow @MikeOnslow @pn_neil_allen Is it right that it's so easy for #Pompey to fire honest hard-working staff and impossible to fire money grabbing players? Colin Farmery @colinfarmery @MikeOnslow@pn_neil_allen Players are staff too... #Pompey Classy
mcjwills Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Its going to get very nasty for the players and this public outburst of hatred of the players is just shameful. How come no one has Tweeted about the small self employed sole traders who's bill of £6,000 is now worth a few quid. Where were the bestest fans then ??? . When they signed Kitson and the other bloke upon a combined £160,000 a MONTH - when small business were being shafted and just dumped on the scrap heap - 6k may not sound like a lot of money but the ramifications of that 6k not EVER being paid - yet still whinge about their hero's now needing to F))) Off with the same treatment is just shameful - I wish some one in the media would explain to me how these fans actions are deemed to be justified !!!!!!!!!! Come on dont be too harsh that 6K will now be nearly be able to buy a ticket to watch the bestest team in League 1. Well worth going out of business for that
Waterside.saint Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 No, this cannot be right, are the bestest really turning on their own players ? Were'nt these the same bestest fans applauding the same group of Appy's plucky loyal warriors / heroes / soldiers for turning down moves in January ? It's funny the things people will do or say when the reality of their predicament becomes apparent, syill the cup win was worth it all.... People pay good money to watch films depicting chains of events like these. And we're getting it all for free right now as it happens, I'm loving it!
Waterside.saint Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 PLEASE REMEMBER - PFC agreed to pay players 20k a week - whilst already owing millions why should the BBC and especially the snooze ( who are owed over £20,000 from CVA 1 ) want to have a poor old Pompy attitude - when these honest individuals and business get 0.4 pence - where is the moral stance - ok to shaft and rip off the public now want to turn over the ones they lorded over - Please just put this club down FFS Seconded. Good post
Waterside.saint Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 PST Spokesperson @pompeytrust @GregHalford15 The simple fact is Greg, all the senior players need to go. Now. Please. The club will die otherwise. Help PFC survive And about time too
qwertySFC Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Come on dont be too harsh that 6K will now be nearly be able to buy a ticket to watch the bestest team in League 1. Well worth going out of business for that I know But that 6k would have come in handy for my nephews company - luckily the non payment of ANYTHING has not had to much of a knock on effect for him - however for others its the straw that broke the camels back - Still never mind i'm sure Appy is as Appy as any thing in Spain offering contracts to the string of players on a free holiday - I wonder how many are that dumb to believe any thing that comes out of Fratton park ... Come on just administer the last dose and close it down
Thedelldays Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 wehey for what it is worth, I think they will survive (JUST) to start in league 1.. staying up, will be a whole bigger issue. they are screwed for a generation
andysstuff Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 And there's more....not a pretty sight.... Liam Buckler @Liam_Buckler @GregHalford15 why can't you comprehend as a pompey player that you have to leave NOW? If you/ teammates fail to grasp this then we're dead Mick Williams @mickwill @Liam_Buckler@GregHalford15 and players will get NOTHING in liquidation as well as everyone else. Sad times! #Pompey Phill Russell ™ @Phill_Russell Those 8 senior players should be ashamed of themselves. Poor staff being sacrificed once again. Players aren't bigger than the club #Pompey Liam Buckler @Liam_Buckler @mickwill@GregHalford15 baffles me that there are players still left. Oh, you really love the club? It really shows it. Ridiculous #pompey Greg Miles @Greg_KOS_sport If #Pompey get liquidated because 8 already well paid footballers don't want to lower their wages demands, they will have to go into hiding. Russell @RussellSFC Ben Haim remains on £35k per week yet normal members of staff of #Pompey get made redundant, absolute disgrace. Careful, some of those are 'ours'
Panda Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 I know But that 6k would have come in handy for my nephews company - luckily the non payment of ANYTHING has not had to much of a knock on effect for him - however for others its the straw that broke the camels back - Still never mind i'm sure Appy is as Appy as any thing in Spain offering contracts to the string of players on a free holiday - I wonder how many are that dumb to believe any thing that comes out of Fratton park ... Come on just administer the last dose and close it down This £6k is probably a lot more than that to the company owed it. Lets say they purchased £2k worth of materials to do a job on the ground and then paid a couple of their staff to go and do the job and they expected to be making £2k 'profit' towards the other costs of running the company, including their own salary. Its not £6k its over £10k. The debt figure and the actual economic impact are very different.
qwertySFC Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 You couldn't make it up - PFC making staff redundant within a couple of weeks of employing a new Commercial manager , Head of development and a new coach (cough) player ....
Spudders Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Does not look like it is going to happen today though. *walks away ripping up PTS lottery ticket* +1 this disappoints me on my birthday! (sad face thingy)
trousers Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Anyway, back to Pompey's penultimate game... @officialpompey: #Pompey team v Gibraltar: Eastwood; Dumbuya, Webster, Magri, Harley; Sam, Gillett, Howard, Lopez; McLeod, Rodgers subs: Preece, Westwood, Colson, Butler, Wallace, Harris, Thompson
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 Come on dont be too harsh that 6K will now be nearly be able to buy a ticket to watch the bestest team in League 1. Well worth going out of business for that Not yet it won't. It hasn't been paid remember
scally Posted 20 July, 2012 Posted 20 July, 2012 It would be interesting to know how many people have lost there jobs because of Pompey. Terry Clarkes company (Terry The Builder) used to be in Quayside Rd in Bitterne, they went to the wall about a year ago. How many more companies need to go bust before the skates are put down. Liam Buckler @Liam_Buckler @GregHalford15 why can't you comprehend as a pompey player that you have to leave NOW? If you/ teammates fail to grasp this then we're dead Mick Williams @mickwill @Liam_Buckler@GregHalford15 and players will get NOTHING in liquidation as well as everyone else. Sad times! #Pompey Phill Russell ™ @Phill_Russell Those 8 senior players should be ashamed of themselves. Poor staff being sacrificed once again. Players aren't bigger than the club #Pompey Liam Buckler @Liam_Buckler @mickwill@GregHalford15 baffles me that there are players still left. Oh, you really love the club? It really shows it. Ridiculous #pompey Greg Miles @Greg_KOS_sport If #Pompey get liquidated because 8 already well paid footballers don't want to lower their wages demands, they will have to go into hiding. Russell @RussellSFC Ben Haim remains on £35k per week yet normal members of staff of #Pompey get made redundant, absolute disgrace.
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