Saint J 77 Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 If the CVA is agreed on Monday and not successfully countered by another offer Portsmouth will have legitimately shed £107.3 million in debts in two years... Unsmegging believable!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Article back up, spot the difference. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/portsmouth/9350229/Portsmouth-Portpin-and-crippling-debts-deja-vu-for-the-creditors-as-the-Pompey-circus-continues.html Totally shameful Wasnt it the demented Toy Salesman who consistently argued that all the smaller creditors and charities had been paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Original Telegraph article on #Pompey appears to have been pulled. Conspiracy theories abound! Try this instead http://t.co/3RA1F4rf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 At long last... The nationals are taking an interest!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Scally, thanks for posting but I have had to remove as there will be potential copywrite cutting and pasting the whole article. Yeah, but c.100% of the information in that article has already appeared on this thread.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Can anyone find a link to the South China Morning News where BC says "I will get my money back"? That article needs to be emailed to Matt Scott pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 At long last... The nationals are taking an interest!! And rather well too. It also brings to mind why parachute payments exist in the first place - largely to cushion clubs against the otherwise crippling effects of premier league wages in the lower leagues. So when PFC administrators resort to exerting public pressure on players to walk away from contracts intended to be underwritten by the parachute-payment system, it beggars belief that the football authorities and the PFA allow this to go on without even the hint of a reprimand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Original Telegraph article on #Pompey appears to have been pulled. Conspiracy theories abound! Try this instead http://t.co/3RA1F4rf "The absence of the statutory annual report and accounts, coupled with the fact that Portpin is registered in the secrecy jurisdiction of the British Virgin Islands, have made transparency impossible to achieve." Wouldn't surprise me at all if Portpin was part owned by Gaydamak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Yeah, but c.100% of the information in that article has already appeared on this thread.... ;-) No plucky Pompey, no bestest fans, no pack the park - all of that usual bullsh*t was mercifully left out of that article. Nice read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 What is the difference between the two articles in the Telegraph please as I never read the first one.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 What is the difference between the two articles in the Telegraph please as I never read the first one.? The first one featured an exclusive interview with Truckasaurus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 The first one featured an exclusive interview with Truckasaurus And the Torygraph pulled it because he started slagging off Lady T. (Dame Maggie that is, not the current Mrs Trousers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Article doesn't say about the cheating regarding players they've signed they could never afford, especially the ones since 1st admin... Huseklepp, Varney, Lawrence, Kitson, Norris, the approx 100k a week wages added by these players. As has been said in Scotland with Club 12, sporting sanctions, throw them out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryoman1965 Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 And the Torygraph pulled it because he started slagging off Lady T. (Dame Maggie that is, not the current Mrs Trousers) And block paving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Oh so FINALLY the Torygraph has almost gone into print. Not bad seeing as the have had the link to the PTS thread since February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Article back up, spot the difference. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/portsmouth/9350229/Portsmouth-Portpin-and-crippling-debts-deja-vu-for-the-creditors-as-the-Pompey-circus-continues.html I missed the original article, what is now different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 I missed the original article, what is now different? I didn't see the original but they put it down to a 'technical fault' with the website according to later tweets. Meanwhile, I see you've annoyed Mr Allen again.... @pn_neil_allen: @MatthewLeGod Yep. Bored of your obsession now. Consistently and embarrassingly ill-informed. Goodbye! :-)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 (edited) Meanwhile, I see you've annoyed Mr Allen again.... @pn_neil_allen: @MatthewLeGod Yep. Bored of your obsession now. Consistently and embarrassingly ill-informed. Goodbye! :-)) He has the cheek to call me "embarrassingly ill-informed" and churns out nonsense stories every day in the paper. I've read every post on this thread, I'm about as informed on this subject as you can get! Edited 22 June, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 He has the cheek to call me "embarrassingly ill-informed" and churns out nonsense stories every day in the paper. I've read every post on this thread, I'm about as informed on this subject as you can get! You, sir, have majored in this subject with top marks. You hold a 'Master of PTS' from the nutjob academy. Go forth and enlighten the masses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 Oh so FINALLY the Torygraph has almost gone into print. Not bad seeing as the have had the link to the PTS thread since February How long and prominent is the print version? If it exists. I might have to buy a copy later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 I don't think that the PL are that stupid and can and will hold it back, diverting what is owed to the appropriate people. Don't underestimate the PL. short of some form of oldco into newco thing where their contracts are no longer valid, but the newco somehow retains its golden share, I don't see what can be done. They ain't walking, so someone is going to have to pay them at some point. Paying them is one option. But there are alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 Still not dead yet then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 Still not dead yet then? But they're not well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckasaurus Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 So what the F**k is Sauerkraut if it ain't a vegetable, a pickled one fair enough, but it's still a vegetable. And what about chips, they're vegetable too..... An how dare you diss Maggie, the best leader this country has ever had!! Never got any chips and i've been to Germany twice. One of the most hated persons in this country,arrogant,selfish,greedy old witch whome cared not a jot for the needy.Lined her own pockets and that of her t*t of a son. Hurry up and die you evil cow. The Saturday after maggie dies there is a party organised in Trafalgar Square, 6pm. http://WWW.Classwar.org. I think that speaks volumes. God bless Classwar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 Talk of stripping Rangers of trophies north of the border for their cheating, some of the comments sound familiar... http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/hay-strip-rangers-titles-but-no-prize-for-runners-uo.17951362 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboy Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 The original telegraph article here from FF http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=424&fid=203&sty=2&act=1&mid=2114554121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 So the quote from the taxi firm owner that they lied to him was removed, and the section at the end about the PST bid was added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 Think TB missed a money earning trick this weekend. Shouldda let the poor festival goers park up on the pitch for 50 quid a pop and shuttled them down to the IOW ferries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 Never got any chips and i've been to Germany twice. One of the most hated persons in this country,arrogant,selfish,greedy old witch whome cared not a jot for the needy.Lined her own pockets and that of her t*t of a son. Hurry up and die you evil cow. The Saturday after maggie dies there is a party organised in Trafalgar Square, 6pm. http://WWW.Classwar.org. I think that speaks volumes. God bless Classwar God bless well organised anarchists....(ironic chortle)... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 I see aqua cars are owed over 5k from the original administration. Just how many taxis to horton heath did avram have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2012 And the Torygraph pulled it because he started slagging off Lady T. (Dame Maggie that is, not the current Mrs Trousers) There going to be a different future Mrs Trousers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 So the quote from the taxi firm owner that they lied to him was removed, and the section at the end about the PST bid was added. You get the impression there's a LOT of bad feeling directed at PFC by local small-business creditors (and creditors with now busted businesses) in particular - the very same ones, unfortunately, who are deeply reluctant to go public for fear of provoking a backlash from some not-too-bright fans. PFC and the administrators could be seen to be silently condoning this threat precisely because it suits them to keep those with such legitimate grievances quiet. So the local small-business and charity creditors are victims twice over (not to mention being third-time losers with the impending 'CVA'). But once the floodgates open... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 So the quote from the taxi firm owner that they lied to him was removed, and the section at the end about the PST bid was added. The lieing is difficult to prove, which is probably why it was removed. No doubt about the debt though! I'm sure when I lived in the area Aqua Cars made me pay cash in advance on club runs! Normally taxi drivers have their ear to the ground, but to allow the cheats to go 6 months without paying in the circumstances was a bit stupid. I'd be interested to know how they built up the debt 2nd time round. Hope no small creditors got caught again; anybody know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 Think TB missed a money earning trick this weekend. Shouldda let the poor festival goers park up on the pitch for 50 quid a pop and shuttled them down to the IOW ferries Well the club did let people camp on the pitch. How about a concert to Pack The Park and put a few more quid in TBH's pocket? SkateAid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Appleton wants Ben Haim and Kanu back for #Pompey pre-season start on July 5. But undecided what he will do with them. http://t.co/eiYBtq2v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Appleton wants Ben Haim and Kanu back for #Pompey pre-season start on July 5. But undecided what he will do with them. http://t.co/eiYBtq2v Dear appy. Want to know what to do with them? Here's an idea. Why not try to get Kanu to play in goal? he's obviously not up to running around now his Zimmerframe gets in the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 But they're not well..... But is it terminal - not looking like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 He has the cheek to call me "embarrassingly ill-informed" and churns out nonsense stories every day in the paper. I've read every post on this thread, I'm about as informed on this subject as you can get! Take it as the compliment it is...you've shown him up as a 'journalist' and f*cked his credibility with his acolytes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 Take it as the compliment it is...you've shown him up as a 'journalist' and f*cked his credibility with his acolytes I'm not sure being criticised by him can be regarded as a compliment.;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Appleton wants Ben Haim and Kanu back for #Pompey pre-season start on July 5. But undecided what he will do with them. http://t.co/eiYBtq2v ‘The reason to get a pre-season tour was so the players could gel together – and I was looking at 18 new faces.‘It has not paved out that way. Lolage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 I'm not sure being criticised by him can be regarded as a compliment.;-) Really? I love it when I get under people's skin enough that they have no retort other than insults...I take that as acceptance that I've won the proper argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 Really? I love it when I get under people's skin enough that they have no retort other than insults...I take that as acceptance that I've won the proper argument I meant that his opinion either way is of little value! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 just been trying to explain to a skate for the zillionth time how our administration was not exactly the same as theirs....he reckons both clubs should have folded and we left just as many creditors. Apparently they will pass us shortly anyway - when we overspend and get relegated while they triumphantly rebuild. There's nowt as dim as the stupid, what can you do? You can lead a seedy old pervert to Horton Heath but you can't make him send the boys out on manoeuvres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 The easiest way to make the point is to ask them if they know what a CVA is. If they do ask them why bankrupt clubs need them. Then ask them why Saints didn't have one. QED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 no point in discussing much at all with them. It's all tank commanders and dock strikes. The more b0ll0x I hear the less sympathetic I am. And I wasn't that sympathetic to start with! I'm through with trying to give maths lessons to dentally-challenged people who think that all houses have jockey wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 no point in discussing much at all with them. It's all tank commanders and dock strikes. The more b0ll0x I hear the less sympathetic I am. And I wasn't that sympathetic to start with! I'm through with trying to give maths lessons to dentally-challenged people who think that all houses have jockey wheels. I see what you did there............cute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvaughanwilliams Posted 23 June, 2012 Share Posted 23 June, 2012 I think that Bompey fans are going to be fuming if Pompey get treated more leniently than they were when they were in a similar position. The Football League were incredibly harsh about not letting them sign players and their goal keeping coach had to come out of retirement to sit on the bench. They frequently couldn't fill their bench and had to use youth team players to fill up the first 11. Their first friendly is in 3 weeks. There is a 4 week period for the high earners to leave, starting on Monday. I can't see the Football League allowing them to sign any players until the ownership problem is resolved and a substantial number of the leeches out of the door. That friendly could be a fiasco and I'm betting on a Hawks win against a makeshift youth team. The tour to Gibraltar is before the end of the 4 weeks as well. Fun, fun, fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 24 June, 2012 Share Posted 24 June, 2012 I meant that his opinion either way is of little value! True...and winning an argument against a skate journalist is, almost literally, like shooting fish in a barrel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 24 June, 2012 Share Posted 24 June, 2012 True...and winning an argument against a skate journalist is, almost literally, like shooting fish in a barrel! "Almost literally," hmmm, interesting. So you put the skate journalist in the barrel and shoot him, and then you've won the argument or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 24 June, 2012 Share Posted 24 June, 2012 "Almost literally," hmmm, interesting. So you put the skate journalist in the barrel and shoot him, and then you've won the argument or what? I think it's fair to say that would settle the argument! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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