Sevvy Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/583319063?-11209 The trust are going to put in their bid, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMondo Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Why shouldn't UnAppy be allowed to work under the same restrictions as Clotterill? After all it worked out so well for all concerned last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 good luck to them. I suspect that all they need do is match Chin's offer and the creditors would go with them over the money lender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 good luck to them. I suspect that all they need do is match Chin's offer and the creditors would go with them over the money lender. Didn't Birch say that it would have to be significantly different from Chanari's bid to be put forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Excellent - this is sure to split the creditors votes, possibly to the point where both are rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckasaurus Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Is there anything that your God wouldn't bless ?? Mobile phones,cats,mosquitoes,racists,the french;)old peoples driving,donuts,HSBC,estate agents,shark fin soup,stewards,Scotland football team,Jimmy Carr,Take that, :wave:reality TV shows,Philepe Massa,airport secrurity,the catholic chuch,work,cruelty to animals,depleated uranium,bindweed,toothache,midday kick off,magpies,adverts on TV,litter,block paving,B&Q,rain at the cricket,German vegtables,ouzo,gas BBQ's,the USA,alcohol free beer,jihad,the Japanese whaleing fleet,cheap watches,slugs,ESSO pet co ltd,tennis,italian restaurants,maggie thatcher,the muslim brotherhood,famine,political correctness,all seater stadiums,Yorkshire,golf,(sorry Phil,)traffic lights on the A36 half a mile from Totton centre......why?,3% stamp duty,people saying "like" ten times in one sentence,buy one get one free,(can i have one at half price?).....................i could go on. God bless getting stuff off your chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Should pompey start next season, and start it without penalty, AND with the debts wiped out, it will be a fVking disgrace. The FA Cup will still sit there in the record books, Ben Haim will drive his over-chromed Tatmobile around town, and somewhere in Portsea a young cancer sufferer will be denied some support that could make their last months in this world a little less harrowing. And today UnAppy talks about offering generous terms to some old loser?? And this is why they must liquidate... it really is a disease down there, even Voldermort is showing symptons of the pompey delusion. I think the only character I recall not getting the disease was Paul Hart, reference Eugeen Bop! The funniest option would be for the pompey trust to buy the club and have all the dumb skates fork out £1000 for their share. Then a year down the line go bust again. That would be priceless! Mind you its pure fantasy I think, I can imagine a lot of skates have had to withdraw pledges by now to pay for holidays, kids school uniforms and so on... Their 'high net worth individuals' Al-Fahim and Howe havnt bothered to even pledge £100 yet! I hope Appleton's comment act as a warning to anyone saying they'd rather see PFC 'struggle in L1' than be liquidated. Make no mistake, if they avoid liquidation, they'll do exactly the same again, be pushing for promotion and destroying the lives of countless more creditors. Absolutely, they have demonstrated they are above the rules, or at least they can break alll the rules and spin their way away from punishment. The price they are paying is huge...... It will take generations to recover from. Can they recover? Look at Luton, Bradford etc... pompey will lose their current support and all the kids in the area will turn red. Pinch me... is this a dream? SHALALA... WTFILN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Where is the integrity in the FL? I do love rhetorical questions... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Mobile phones,cats,mosquitoes,racists,the french;)old peoples driving,donuts,HSBC,estate agents,shark fin soup,stewards,Scotland football team,Jimmy Carr,Take that, :wave:reality TV shows,Philepe Massa,airport secrurity,the catholic chuch,work,cruelty to animals,depleated uranium,bindweed,toothache,midday kick off,magpies,adverts on TV,litter,block paving,B&Q,rain at the cricket,German vegtables,ouzo,gas BBQ's,the USA,alcohol free beer,jihad,the Japanese whaleing fleet,cheap watches,slugs,ESSO pet co ltd,tennis,italian restaurants,maggie thatcher,the muslim brotherhood,famine,political correctness,all seater stadiums,Yorkshire,golf,(sorry Phil,)traffic lights on the A36 half a mile from Totton centre......why?,3% stamp duty,people saying "like" ten times in one sentence,buy one get one free,(can i have one at half price?).....................i could go on. God bless getting stuff off your chest. Block paving?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 When something seems as off the wall as CVA2 there is often a reason we haven't seen, somehow they need to survive to a certain date to get the next PP? It's the only reason I can think of for them to be acting all Klingon. The PR is simply Soooooo false, they must be trying to avoid a final wipe I have a theory... maybe Chainrai has masterminded another clever scheme here, similar to last time... a big f*ck you to everyone else... Birch has confirmed pfc can start the season still in admin. Chinny and the PST go head to head in a battle of the CVAs, dragging the process along for many more months... BINGO! Its now october and its parachute time! Chinny scoops the lot and sends it to the Virgin islands never to be seen again. Followed by immeadiate liquidation and legal action against anyone who dares to question the great Chainrai... Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 The trust taking over would be hysterical..... It would keep this thread going until the next administration.....which would happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Mobile phones,cats,mosquitoes,racists,the french;)old peoples driving,donuts,HSBC,estate agents,shark fin soup,stewards,Scotland football team,Jimmy Carr,Take that, :wave:reality TV shows,Philepe Massa,airport secrurity,the catholic chuch,work,cruelty to animals,depleated uranium,bindweed,toothache,midday kick off,magpies,adverts on TV,litter,block paving,B&Q,rain at the cricket,German vegtables,ouzo,gas BBQ's,the USA,alcohol free beer,jihad,the Japanese whaleing fleet,cheap watches,slugs,ESSO pet co ltd,tennis,italian restaurants,maggie thatcher,the muslim brotherhood,famine,political correctness,all seater stadiums,Yorkshire,golf,(sorry Phil,)traffic lights on the A36 half a mile from Totton centre......why?,3% stamp duty,people saying "like" ten times in one sentence,buy one get one free,(can i have one at half price?).....................i could go on. God bless getting stuff off your chest. Margaret Thatcher?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 I have a theory... maybe Chainrai has masterminded another clever scheme here, similar to last time... a big f*ck you to everyone else... Birch has confirmed pfc can start the season still in admin. Chinny and the PST go head to head in a battle of the CVAs, dragging the process along for many more months... BINGO! Its now october and its parachute time! Chinny scoops the lot and sends it to the Virgin islands never to be seen again. Followed by immeadiate liquidation and legal action against anyone who dares to question the great Chainrai... Maybe? The conspiracy theorist in me has been mulling over a similar hypothsis for a few weeks now. I'm convinced (as someone who makes things up can be) that Birch is somehow in 'collusion' with one or more of the players in this game (be it Chainrai, The Football League, HMRC, etc) in order to stretch things out until the next parachute payemnts arrive. I'm not sure whether the Trust are part of this hypothetical collusion or whether they are unwittingly being used by those stringing it out but it all points to a manipulation of the situation....In somone else's opinion of course.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 I don't think that the PL are that stupid and can and will hold it back, diverting what is owed to the appropriate people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 The conspiracy theorist in me has been mulling over a similar hypothsis for a few weeks now. I'm convinced (as someone who makes things up can be) that Birch is somehow in 'collusion' with one or more of the players in this game (be it Chainrai, The Football League, HMRC, etc) in order to stretch things out until the next parachute payemnts arrive. I'm not sure whether the Trust are part of this hypothetical collusion or whether they are unwittingly being used by those stringing it out but it all points to a manipulation of the situation....In somone else's opinion of course.... Not exactly a conspiracy, it's his job to get as much money for the creditors as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 A bid from the Pompey Supporters' Trust? I nearly PST myself laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 A bid from the Pompey Supporters' Trust? I nearly PST myself laughing. Oh, I see what you wet there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 I don't think that the PL are that stupid and can and will hold it back, diverting what is owed to the appropriate people. ROFL The PL are Spineless, Toothless, and won't do a damn thing against one of their wonderful "Club" members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Of course, he's going to have to be creative with dealing with TBH and friends. I'm still trying to figure out how he's going to handle that little problem.short of some form of oldco into newco thing where their contracts are no longer valid, but the newco somehow retains its golden share, I don't see what can be done. They ain't walking, so someone is going to have to pay them at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 ROFL The PL are Spineless, Toothless, and won't do a damn thing against one of their wonderful "Club" members But of course, they're not a club member anymore, which makes all the difference The PL hate them for the negativity they brought down on their priceless brand a couple of years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Its fairly obvious the FL dont wish to do anything that will push them under. Any cynical owner will know that and so uses that to their advantage. I suspect the PFA and FL lawyers are looking at any possibilities they can to evade paying the outstanding wages to the players. 'But the PP will cover that' i hear people cry but as i see it if Pompey go into liquidation any pp will stay with the Pl and leave the PFA and Fl holding the baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 But of course, they're not a club member anymore, which makes all the difference The PL hate them for the negativity they brought down on their priceless brand a couple of years ago OK, I hear what you say, but they WILL get the PP's from the PL won't they ?? Can't quite see how the PL "hate" them, they blindly stood by while Pompey casually wiped off circa £150 Million of debt, and immediately started racking up another circa £60 Million, something that the likes of Luton, Bournemouth were not given time to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Not exactly a conspiracy, it's his job to get as much money for the creditors as possible. I'm not sure how stretching the admin fees out into a 7 figure sum is helping him achieve said value for money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 OK, I hear what you say, but they WILL get the PP's from the PL won't they ?? I exepect that they will be given directly to the football creditors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 If PCFC go bust, then the PPs due to them get distributed to PL teams. Guess what, that means us! One more reason to root for their demise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Block paving?? german vegtables [sic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Margaret Thatcher?? I would say especially Margaret Thatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningtonCrescent Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Mobile phones,cats,mosquitoes,racists,the french;)old peoples driving,donuts,HSBC,estate agents,shark fin soup,stewards,Scotland football team,Jimmy Carr,Take that, :wave:reality TV shows,Philepe Massa,airport secrurity,the catholic chuch,work,cruelty to animals,depleated uranium,bindweed,toothache,midday kick off,magpies,adverts on TV,litter,block paving,B&Q,rain at the cricket,German vegtables,ouzo,gas BBQ's,the USA,alcohol free beer,jihad,the Japanese whaleing fleet,cheap watches,slugs,ESSO pet co ltd,tennis,italian restaurants,maggie thatcher,the muslim brotherhood,famine,political correctness,all seater stadiums,Yorkshire,golf,(sorry Phil,)traffic lights on the A36 half a mile from Totton centre......why?,3% stamp duty,people saying "like" ten times in one sentence,buy one get one free,(can i have one at half price?).....................i could go on. God bless getting stuff off your chest. Slugs?! What have they ever done to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckasaurus Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 ..........and f***ing pikeys. Go to germany (lovley place) go into a restaurant and all you get is meat and sourcraut,nice but never get any veg. Thatcher.......bloody obvious. Recently bought a bungalow and the entire back garden is block paved,must have cost a fortune and i have to pick it all up and bung it in a skip. Feel free anyone to ask any more questions. God bless burning caravans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 I exepect that they will be given directly to the football creditors I assume that means Chanrai ?? If so, not much for anyone else That, IMHO will be a complete SHAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Go to germany (lovley place) go into a restaurant and all you get is meat and sourcraut,nice but never get any veg. So what the F**k is Sauerkraut if it ain't a vegetable, a pickled one fair enough, but it's still a vegetable. And what about chips, they're vegetable too..... An how dare you diss Maggie, the best leader this country has ever had!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 I assume that means Chanrai ?? If so, not much for anyone else That, IMHO will be a complete SHAM No Chinny is not a football creditor. The pp wil go towards to defered wages and bonuses, other footballing debts.....oh and of course lumpitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 I assume that means Chanrai ?? If so, not much for anyone else That, IMHO will be a complete SHAM If Chainrai were a football creditor he'd be due money from parachute payments. He's not though, so he won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 (edited) some details on the pst bid..... Trust bid is not wholly dependent on the share scheme. Details will be released later today but the outline plan is a CIC set up with the High Net Worth Individuals in partnership with the Trust. The % ownership by the Trust will depend on how many pledges are fulfilled by fans. So the more fans can get together the bigger a share they will have in the club. Basically this is similar to the way Swansea operate http://www.bis.gov.uk/cicregulator/ Edited 22 June, 2012 by Gemmel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 I assume that means Chanrai ?? If so, not much for anyone else That, IMHO will be a complete SHAM A skate trust fan on the board type just mentioned this: You're going to have to wait until the bid is published; without a doubt, however, the issue will have to be addressed but Mr. C. is going to have to take a 'haircut'. Also, according to what Mr. Chainrai has said about being the owner of last resort, we should now expect Portpin to withdraw gracefully shortly after the bid is published. Quite a good point actually! I will become the reluctant owner again Are you prepared to forgoe some of the money you are owed if the right buyer comes in and takes over the skates? Definately... (nods head furiously, pauses)... DEFINATELY Will he take a haircut for the trust? Will he f*ck! My position is secured. I will get my money back God Bless Balram Chainrai On a side note, I thought the Antonov money laundering extradition case should be over by now. However, it appears the Lituanian gov't have re-applied the extradition and are now claiming Vladdy nicked $600m instead of the previously claimed $300 odd! http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-04/lithuanian-prosecutors-double-claims-for-former-snoras-owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Mobile phones,cats,mosquitoes,racists,the french;)old peoples driving,donuts,HSBC,estate agents,shark fin soup,stewards,Scotland football team,Jimmy Carr,Take that, :wave:reality TV shows,Philepe Massa,airport secrurity,the catholic chuch,work,cruelty to animals,depleated uranium,bindweed,toothache,midday kick off,magpies,adverts on TV,litter,block paving,B&Q,rain at the cricket,German vegtables,ouzo,gas BBQ's,the USA,alcohol free beer,jihad,the Japanese whaleing fleet,cheap watches,slugs,ESSO pet co ltd,tennis,italian restaurants,maggie thatcher,the muslim brotherhood,famine,political correctness,all seater stadiums,Yorkshire,golf,(sorry Phil,)traffic lights on the A36 half a mile from Totton centre......why?,3% stamp duty,people saying "like" ten times in one sentence,buy one get one free,(can i have one at half price?).....................i could go on. God bless getting stuff off your chest. Having asked the original question (didn't expect an answer BTW!) I go along with most of what you say but am appalled that you have included those highlighted in bold ! But, as you say like, everyone to his own like, it would be a sad world if we all agreed like, know what I mean like ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Premier League Rule B66. Any distribution to a Relegated Club under the provisions of Rules C.36, C.38 or C.40 may be deferred if, on or before the date of the distribution, the Relegated Club has been given notice under article 4.5 of the articles of association of the Football League which has been suspended. Upon such notice being withdrawn the deferred distribution shall be paid but if in consequence of the notice the club to which it was due ceases to be a member of the Football League its amount shall be added to the next distribution made in accordance with these Rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Margaret Thatcher?? Granted any god would be unlikely to bless it's own form of retribution to the UK having visited it upon us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18551274 Looks like the bid's in. Just got to see what it offers now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 2 scenarios I see. PST buys the club. Club has mahoosive wagebill. PST cannot sack the players. Players don't want to leave. PST can't afford to pay players. PST applies for Admin. or PST buys the club. Club has mahoosive wagebill. PST sells players and replaces them with little-known unheard of players Fans stay away (used to marquee-signings like TBH and Kanu, Yakubu et al) Club cannot afford to stay afloat. PST applies for Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkster Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Lord Palmerston @Lord_Palmerston http://bit.ly/Ns6BNZ From Matt Scott on the Telegraph site re Pompey & Portpin. Looks like a very well-sourced piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Lord Palmerston @Lord_Palmerston http://bit.ly/Ns6BNZ From Matt Scott on the Telegraph site re Pompey & Portpin. Looks like a very well-sourced piece. That needs wider coverage. Hashtag on Twitter? #pfcClub24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Seems like Matt Scott has been avid reader of this thread for the past few weeks. Hi Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Lord Palmerston @Lord_Palmerston http://bit.ly/Ns6BNZ From Matt Scott on the Telegraph site re Pompey & Portpin. Looks like a very well-sourced piece. Does not appear to be there any more? Anyone take a copy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Granted any god would be unlikely to bless it's own form of retribution to the UK having visited it upon us! Harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Seems like Matt Scott has been avid reader of this thread for the past few weeks Or a 'Lurkster' as we sometimes like to call them.... ;-)' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Does not appear to be there any more? Anyone take a copy.. Hmmm....yep, not listed on his column page: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/columnists/matt-scott/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Hmmm....yep, not listed on his column page: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/columnists/matt-scott/ Or the general gist? One assumes it has been pulled either by the inhouse lawyers or at the request of someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Article back up, spot the difference. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/portsmouth/9350229/Portsmouth-Portpin-and-crippling-debts-deja-vu-for-the-creditors-as-the-Pompey-circus-continues.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 22 June, 2012 Share Posted 22 June, 2012 Scally, thanks for posting but I have had to remove as there will be potential copywrite cutting and pasting the whole article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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