rallyboy Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 that was way too clever SR, even for here. Though you have been asked to report to Nutjob HQ for psychiatric analysis....that train of thought was quite disturbing. No rush, there's a six month waiting list - but make sure you're in front of Hole and Truck or you'll be there for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/no-kranjcar-windfall-for-pompey-after-kiev-switch-1-3938604 Nice one Mr Storrie, I mean, think of the hassle and extra paperwork it would have caused :lol: For all the twists and turns in this whole saga, the one constant is "Our Peter". He's never let the nutjobs down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzie Saints Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 (edited) They just cant get a break can they Pompey will not be receiving a slice of Niko Kranjcar’s £5.5m switch to Dynamo Kiev. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/no-kranjcar-windfall-for-pompey-after-kiev-switch-1-3938604 Edited 12 June, 2012 by Brizzie Saints already posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 There you have it. Someone somewhere wanted the money there and then. That somebody being Gaydamak. Just think how much a tiny slice of some of the follow on fees would have garnered now and really helped the club. I am still annoyed that he used Pompey money to buy his surrounding land for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 the still don't get the situation that they were in at the time. They went for the cash up front option to try and bail them out of the poop! How can they now kick off because some kind of lucrative deal wasn't structured?? i still don't think they with "get it" when/if the club finally goes pop. Maybe when all the forensic accounting has taken place and fingers are pointed there maybe a few that start to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 They just cant get a break can they Pompey will not be receiving a slice of Niko Kranjcar’s £5.5m switch to Dynamo Kiev. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/no-kranjcar-windfall-for-pompey-after-kiev-switch-1-3938604 Dont worry, its ok, Peter as always had it covered... The pompey youth ace Alex Oxlade Chamberlain made his third England appearance and his first full international start in the Euros... pompey will be due a nice little windfall from that as he is their former pompey ace... f'sure... its splashed all over the back pages of the snooze, regularly... shalala WTFILN (God Bless Peter theres only one Storrie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorsetdave Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 HMRC 1 - 0 Rangers http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18407309 Gob bless HMRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug187 Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 Good old #pompeygers haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 Perhaps this is their Plan B - to compete at the Euros?? Well according to Sky Sports anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 Would be the first time I've ever supported Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 HMRC 1 - 0 Rangers http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18407309 Gob bless HMRC Skates are finally discussing liquidation: True. But the only bid for the club on the table right now is dependent upon the high wage earners being sold or moved on; as that hasn't happened (or looks likely to happen in a short timeframe) then as it stands the bid on the table is in serious jeopardy of not going through. Therefore it's entirely relevant to discuss alternative potential avenues. Oh yes, I wasn't suggesting that the discussion was not worth having and you are right, the Portpin bid is conditional - any bid is not viable with the wage bill as it stands. Sadly, there is nothing happening with the high earners at the moment, so liquidation is still a possibility. Old Spice is 'Mick', a PST leader and board member, speaking so beautifully on POL. Some deluded few are saying they cant drop below the Conference as they have too many bestestsss , claiming they will be too big a giant for non-league clubs to handle However we are a football club capable of 5 figure attendances and there are only 50 or so of them in the whole country. PMSL, 10k plus in the non-leagues you reckon? I reckon they will struggle to muster 10k in League 1. If they think they will be taking five figures to away games they need to think again, seeing as they can only manage a couple of hundred in the PL and NPC! FC United of Manchester had averages of 6k home gates when they reformed, taking large away followings with them. Stop you delusion, admit your shame and get on with it... ive given you a perfect option a long long time ago: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 with Rangers seemingly heading for certain liquidation, can any of the few hear alarm bells yet, or are they still deciding whether to sign Michael Owen or Emille Heskey? This news has to be a wake up call for anyone deluded enough to think that pompey is too big a club to go pop. Having already agreed a suicide pact with Rangers I do hope they'll do the honourable thing and follow through with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 12 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2012 Rangers seemingly can go into liquidation and yet stay in the top-flight if the other 11 clubs in the SPL agree it. Seems a bit bizarre but money talks and all 11 will have an eye on the gate receipts. However with the blue few's dwindling band of followers I doubt League One clubs will be similarly disposed. Short of mass murder I can't see the high wage earners being shifted, Chanrai, cutting his losses will walk, the Trust don't have enough to pay the creditors and the players, which leaves liquidation. Can't see it panning out any other way - plus Birch's bill cannot be peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 read the News tonight talking about the England game and the Ox, trying to get some glory, Portsmouth born, St Johns College Educated and finally son of Mark Chamberlain, ex Pompey. Getting desperate. Then funny bit someone suggesting Ben be lent out with some other club taking on 65 % of his wages leaving them paying 35%, they do not get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 There will come a time when the laughs dry up.......... but we are not there yet. The care in the community internet access package, gave the few a chance to win 30k..... Which after mass coverage on their os, local papers and message boards, they duly did. Now the club have turned round and said they had already factored in winning, into the season ticket prices :) .... They are not very appy Only at Pompey could the club winning £30,000 through the efforts of its fans end up being a little bit of a PR own goal. In itself the the club's intention to use the money to offset new season ticket prices - if 5,000 fans buy them that's £6 off per fan ticket - wouldn't have been a bad one. Except fans buying season season tickets never got to see that discount. In reality this money was won after the season ticket prices had been set at the end of May. The nPower 'Fanpower' contest had been clogging up Pompey fans' twitter and facebook timelines for a good couple of months. No matter. The ends justified the means. But the official site statement that it has been 'factored in' to the prices simply means that £30,000 will go into the general club coffers. That money, earned by fans' efforts, could have been so much better spent. £30,000 would 'buy' 400 children's season tickets at £75 to be given away free with an adult purchase. Or it would buy 30,000 'Kids for a Quid' tickets to be given away free instead to schools and colleges. The list could go on of more imaginative schemes than those two to get young people involved in supporting Pompey. They are the fans of the future, after all. In the short-term the £30,000 may well be vital to the club's on-going survival battle. Administrator Trevor Birch has a tough job to simply keep the show on the road, so his decision is respected. But it is to be hoped by the start of the season, the club will have been sold, putting it on a firmer financial footing. So, whether its the Pompey Supporters' Trust, Balram Chainrai or someone else completely who end up owning the club then, I would urge a re-think of this decision. Give the power to the fans to decide how this money should be spent. That would be a good bit of PR to kick things off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 Perhaps this is their Plan B - to compete at the Euros?? Well according to Sky Sports anyway.... Bit of a mismatch this evening as well with Pompey On Line against Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 Big news today then with Rangers seemingly doomed to liquidation & new-co! Also looks like they need an 8-4 vote in their favour to remain in the SPL. Sky sports reporter seemed to indicate that was not a forgone conclusion! In fact he said that at least one chairman had indicated that they would vote against it. I had to laugh at Charles Green, being surprised and shocked that HMRC had indicated that they would vote against his 9p in the pound CVA! He should have done a little investigation, could have tried on here he wouldn't have been surprised then! Still no sign of the mass exodus of the high earners allowing either the PST or Chinny take overs today then? TICK TOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 Rangers seemingly can go into liquidation and yet stay in the top-flight if the other 11 clubs in the SPL agree it. Seems a bit bizarre but money talks and all 11 will have an eye on the gate receipts. However with the blue few's dwindling band of followers I doubt League One clubs will be similarly disposed. Short of mass murder I can't see the high wage earners being shifted, Chanrai, cutting his losses will walk, the Trust don't have enough to pay the creditors and the players, which leaves liquidation. Can't see it panning out any other way - plus Birch's bill cannot be peanuts. Middlesbrough were liquidated in 1986 but were able to raise the £350,000 to register for the next season with 10 minutes to spare. Why didn't they have to start again at the bottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 There will come a time when the laughs dry up.......... but we are not there yet. The care in the community internet access package, gave the few a chance to win 30k..... Which after mass coverage on their os, local papers and message boards, they duly did. Now the club have turned round and said they had already factored in winning, into the season ticket prices :) .... They are not very appy Only at Pompey could the club winning £30,000 through the efforts of its fans end up being a little bit of a PR own goal. In itself the the club's intention to use the money to offset new season ticket prices - if 5,000 fans buy them that's £6 off per fan ticket - wouldn't have been a bad one. Except fans buying season season tickets never got to see that discount. In reality this money was won after the season ticket prices had been set at the end of May. The nPower 'Fanpower' contest had been clogging up Pompey fans' twitter and facebook timelines for a good couple of months. No matter. The ends justified the means. But the official site statement that it has been 'factored in' to the prices simply means that £30,000 will go into the general club coffers. That money, earned by fans' efforts, could have been so much better spent. £30,000 would 'buy' 400 children's season tickets at £75 to be given away free with an adult purchase. Or it would buy 30,000 'Kids for a Quid' tickets to be given away free instead to schools and colleges. The list could go on of more imaginative schemes than those two to get young people involved in supporting Pompey. They are the fans of the future, after all. In the short-term the £30,000 may well be vital to the club's on-going survival battle. Administrator Trevor Birch has a tough job to simply keep the show on the road, so his decision is respected. But it is to be hoped by the start of the season, the club will have been sold, putting it on a firmer financial footing. So, whether its the Pompey Supporters' Trust, Balram Chainrai or someone else completely who end up owning the club then, I would urge a re-think of this decision. Give the power to the fans to decide how this money should be spent. That would be a good bit of PR to kick things off... So, not even a whiff of anyone connected to Pompey thinking that it might be an idea to dish out the £30k to the most needy small creditors from either CVA1 or CVA2? Rotten to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 They could use some of the £30,000 to pay of the charity's! Now that would be good PR, but I guess not! That would be to much to expect. No keep it at least it will pay TBH for a week. God bless Quality over Quantity DFSCB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 12 June, 2012 Share Posted 12 June, 2012 That 30,000 is not enough for a complete week of TBH wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trousers Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF9TjbdJyUE&feature=youtube_gdata_player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=284467 A target of 1000 pledges since the start of last month was targeted, sadly this has fallen short but 'around 800' have still come in. I think we safely assume that 'around 800' is actually 'under 800'. How many of those are people who have scraped together the £100 to show support but will not be able, or willing, to put in the remaining £900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 There will come a time when the laughs dry up.......... but we are not there yet. The care in the community internet access package, gave the few a chance to win 30k..... Which after mass coverage on their os, local papers and message boards, they duly did. Now the club have turned round and said they had already factored in winning, into the season ticket prices :) .... They are not very appy Only at Pompey could the club winning £30,000 through the efforts of its fans end up being a little bit of a PR own goal. In itself the the club's intention to use the money to offset new season ticket prices - if 5,000 fans buy them that's £6 off per fan ticket - wouldn't have been a bad one. Except fans buying season season tickets never got to see that discount. In reality this money was won after the season ticket prices had been set at the end of May. The nPower 'Fanpower' contest had been clogging up Pompey fans' twitter and facebook timelines for a good couple of months. No matter. The ends justified the means. But the official site statement that it has been 'factored in' to the prices simply means that £30,000 will go into the general club coffers. That money, earned by fans' efforts, could have been so much better spent. £30,000 would 'buy' 400 children's season tickets at £75 to be given away free with an adult purchase. Or it would buy 30,000 'Kids for a Quid' tickets to be given away free instead to schools and colleges. The list could go on of more imaginative schemes than those two to get young people involved in supporting Pompey. They are the fans of the future, after all. In the short-term the £30,000 may well be vital to the club's on-going survival battle. Administrator Trevor Birch has a tough job to simply keep the show on the road, so his decision is respected. But it is to be hoped by the start of the season, the club will have been sold, putting it on a firmer financial footing. So, whether its the Pompey Supporters' Trust, Balram Chainrai or someone else completely who end up owning the club then, I would urge a re-think of this decision. Give the power to the fans to decide how this money should be spent. That would be a good bit of PR to kick things off... I have to tip my hat to them, you truly are amazing at bending the rules In a competition that stated expressly that the winning proceeds could not under any circumstances be used for player wages, and that the winnings absolutely MUST be used for the fans, PFC have still managed to find a way around these rules and stitch their own fans up, keeping the money to pay TBH for four days this week It truly is a masterstroke to say that the money is being used to discount season tickets, and not only that but to claim that winning the money was factored in before they won it - absolute genius! There must be a book of masterstrokes left in the office for Birch Ordinarily, I think I would feel a little annoyed with a club doing this to their own fans, but this is Pompey! Nothing they do surprises me, and the fact that the club is blatantly ripping off it's own fans, just makes it even funnier! I think we can now add Birch to the list of legends in the farce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckasaurus Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 In this case,no news IS bad news. It's oh so quiet. Does anybody know how much money is being spent every day while Trev keeps the corpse alive.I'm sure the creditors would be interested.This cannot be in the interest of anyone to keep spending money,no income,no player sales.What the f**k is Trevor doing? Wind 'em up you c**t God bless Bjork,she is lovely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 I have to tip my hat to them, you truly are amazing at bending the rules In a competition that stated expressly that the winning proceeds could not under any circumstances be used for player wages, and that the winnings absolutely MUST be used for the fans, PFC have still managed to find a way around these rules and stitch their own fans up, keeping the money to pay TBH for four days this week It truly is a masterstroke to say that the money is being used to discount season tickets, and not only that but to claim that winning the money was factored in before they won it - absolute genius! There must be a book of masterstrokes left in the office for Birch Ordinarily, I think I would feel a little annoyed with a club doing this to their own fans, but this is Pompey! Nothing they do surprises me, and the fact that the club is blatantly ripping off it's own fans, just makes it even funnier! I think we can now add Birch to the list of legends in the farce! It's only a masterstroke if the intellectual might of the Football League fall for it....oh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 I know I will get crucified for this, but when you look back, the way ownership can have such an impact on a club, with the benefit of hindsight, would we have been as vitriolic in wanting Lowe out at any cost? We got VERY lucky with Markus and alot of that had to do with a with the simple fact even though we had gone backwards in footballing terms, we had invested wisely in infrastructure that made us attractive. With Lowe, we had a conceited, often arrogant, and stuborn and plainly poor in fotballing terms chairman...but at least we was honest. When you think of what we could have ended up with.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 I know I will get crucified for this' date=' but when you look back, the way ownership can have such an impact on a club, with the benefit of hindsight, would we have been as vitriolic in wanting Lowe out at any cost? We got VERY lucky with Markus and alot of that had to do with a with the simple fact even though we had gone backwards in footballing terms, we had invested wisely in infrastructure that made us attractive. With Lowe, we had a conceited, often arrogant, and stuborn and plainly poor in fotballing terms chairman...but at least we was honest. When you think of what we could have ended up with....[/quote'] When you look at it like that it is quite simple - he bought us a stadium, Gaydymac bought them a cup. We have a future, they have their memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 I know I will get crucified for this' date=' but when you look back, the way ownership can have such an impact on a club, with the benefit of hindsight, would we have been as vitriolic in wanting Lowe out at any cost? We got VERY lucky with Markus and alot of that had to do with a with the simple fact even though we had gone backwards in footballing terms, we had invested wisely in infrastructure that made us attractive. With Lowe, we had a conceited, often arrogant, and stuborn and plainly poor in fotballing terms chairman...but at least we was honest. When you think of what we could have ended up with....[/quote'] I don't subscribe to the "we were very lucky" mantra per se. Yes, of course there was an element of luck in ending up with Markus - there's an element of luck in everything that happens in life in general - but, as you highlight in your own post, the reason we were "lucky" is that we had been shrewd enough to invest in the infrastructure of the club thus making it a lot more likely that we would get 'lucky' in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Which reminds me of Gemmels Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Lowe was an idiot rather than a crook, thus the debris of our club looked way more attractive. In fact the one who has gained more than anyone from the pompey debacle is Rupert, they have made him look like a shrewd man with integrity who got unlucky. And in his defence, he wouldn't have got in bed with the mafia or loan sharks, he would rather have left the tent and gone for a long walk, as any gentleman would. We've been fortunate, but there was a solid basis to the business and no criminal actions pending. Meanwhile, through criminality and insolvent trading they've become so unattractive a proposition that even organised crime can no longer see a profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Lowe was an idiot rather than a crook, thus the debris of our club looked way more attractive. In fact the one who has gained more than anyone from the pompey debacle is Rupert, they have made him look like a shrewd man with integrity who got unlucky. And in his defence, he wouldn't have got in bed with the mafia or loan sharks, he would rather have left the tent and gone for a long walk, as any gentleman would. We've been fortunate, but there was a solid basis to the business and no criminal actions pending. Meanwhile, through criminality and insolvent trading they've become so unattractive a proposition that even organised crime can no longer see a profit. The job has been done, the rotting carcus is now simply left for the carrion to pick on - God Bless Organized Crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 When you look at it like that it is quite simple - he bought us a stadium, Gaydymac bought them a cup. We have a future, they have their memories. Rather he lost us the original stadium and had his bacon saved by Southampton Council, who gifted him the site for St Mary's. He was honest in most of his dealings and fairly shrewd when it came to players' contracts, but the way that he originally came to the club via the arrangement with Askham and the old board stank like a 2 week old kipper. He had it right to invest in the infrastructure which made us an attractive prospect for a buyer, but he really had no idea about the logistics of what makes a team successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Lowe was an idiot rather than a crook, thus the debris of our club looked way more attractive. In fact the one who has gained more than anyone from the pompey debacle is Rupert, they have made him look like a shrewd man with integrity who got unlucky. Ha ha, lowe himself said the very same thing to me. If that comes over as a "dubaiphilism" my apologies, I only ever met him once and it was a little uncomfortable for all concerned, but the opportunity arose on a train and he couldnt go anywhere, so he got 50 questions. He mentioned what was going on down the road (This was nearly 18 months ago) and how he hoped that given their issues some Saints fans appreciated some of the things that had been done in his time, that had given us the oppurtunity of coming back so strongly.... He was actually a nice bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Ha ha, lowe himself said the very same thing to me. If that comes over as a "dubaiphilism" my apologies, I only ever met him once and it was a little uncomfortable for all concerned, but the opportunity arose on a train and he couldnt go anywhere, so he got 50 questions. He mentioned what was going on down the road (This was nearly 18 months ago) and how he hoped that given their issues some Saints fans appreciated some of the things that had been done in his time, that had given us the oppurtunity of coming back so strongly.... He was actually a nice bloke. Always going to be judged on the footballing side of things though Gemmel - the way of life. I remember the desire of fans to see major investment in the playing squad to build on the success of 2003/4 - but still to this day I have never heard a rational idea on how that would be 'funded'. Should we have borrowed more? This is what I mean, Its easy to sit and say 'he should have attracted more investment', but that is from those who simply dont get how a PLC operates, some one coming in and spending 25 mil on shares to take over, would not necessarily have injected cash as a 'gift' more likely a loan - and as we have seen down the road, unless converted to equity, can have diasterous consequences. I do think its to our credit that we questioned all decsions, that fans not satisfied with the way things were going demanded change, but I also think that we based this all on the footballing issues and at times failed to recognise the value of other elements that built the foundations on which Which Markus and NC desired to take the club forward. Pompey had teh best part of 350 mil from 7 years in the prem - at 50mil of that they could have build a nice new 22-25k stadium and redeveloped the surrounding land... they chose to spend that and an additional 120 mil on buying a piece of silverware... and now its nearly game over. Those few that get it have no voice and the majority still think its all down to poor sacha having a loan called in.... failing to see that it was a 'Loan' from a bank, not Sasch's own cash mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Ha ha, lowe himself said the very same thing to me. If that comes over as a "dubaiphilism" my apologies, I only ever met him once and it was a little uncomfortable for all concerned, but the opportunity arose on a train and he couldnt go anywhere, so he got 50 questions. He mentioned what was going on down the road (This was nearly 18 months ago) and how he hoped that given their issues some Saints fans appreciated some of the things that had been done in his time, that had given us the oppurtunity of coming back so strongly.... He was actually a nice bloke. From my experiences with the man , all plausible - except the last sentence Gemmel. Conceited, Bollinger, county set, merchant banker - yes; nice- never I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Always going to be judged on the footballing side of things though Gemmel - the way of life. I remember the desire of fans to see major investment in the playing squad to build on the success of 2003/4 - but still to this day I have never heard a rational idea on how that would be 'funded'. Should we have borrowed more? This is what I mean' date='[b'] Its easy to sit and say 'he should have attracted more investment',[/b] but that is from those who simply dont get how a PLC operates, some one coming in and spending 25 mil on shares to take over, would not necessarily have injected cash as a 'gift' more likely a loan - and as we have seen down the road, unless converted to equity, can have diasterous consequences. .... With respect, you are missing one vital point Lowe was with us in total for 13 years ??? In ALL of that time, he did not "attract" one single £1 of Investment into the Club. That line of thought was Alien to him In most other Businessess, they stand or fall by the level of Investment put into them. The classic "fail" scenario of that is just a few short miles away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Why do the Lowe luvvies start this all over again:rolleyes: He should never have been allowed to walk into this football club by the Askham cronies:( Best day when we waved the idiot goodbye for good.. Fluuuucking Lowe Ra Ra girlz......where is jonah ? He will soon tell us how much this cretin took out of the club and how nothing was ever given.......Maybe NOT:uhoh: Once again please.. Lowe twirlers..let us not change history and make out this man loved the mighty Saints.. We were his cash cow..nothing more , nothing less.... More crayons please jonah.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 With respect, you are missing one vital point Lowe was with us in total for 13 years ??? In ALL of that time, he did not "attract" one single £1 of Investment into the Club. That line of thought was Alien to him In most other Businessess, they stand or fall by the level of Investment put into them. The classic "fail" scenario of that is just a few short miles away Whilst I was not a lowe fan, I can't agree with that. I admit it never felt like it at the time (With the exception of the cup final and Romania) but we acheived something (For a sustained period of time) that other clubs would have died for. We were a self fiananced mid table team in one of the top teams in the league. Lowe wasn't prepared to borrow and chase the dream. Michael Wilde was and the rest is history. As it happens I wouldn't change a single thing and the ultimate outcome and last three years of football (results) have been the best in my lifetime, with the potential of going even further. Anyway, to get it back on topic..........They are still ****e, they are still skint and they are still fooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 In ALL of that time, he did not "attract" one single £1 of Investment into the Club I hear the word "investment" mentioned all the time in relation to football, and only in football does "investment" mean "provide free money without expecting a return". What about floating us on the stock market? Does that not count as bringing in investment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 What about floating us on the stock market? Does that not count as bringing in investment? Actually no, not the way that we did. But back on topic. Ice Cream Anyone??? http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/could-al-fahim-get-involved-at-pompey-again-1-3943137 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Just tweeted that it is staggering that Markus paid our debts in full, when the likes of Pompey and Rangers are offering such crappy CVA's. It shows what a decent man and moral businessman he was. If Chanrai get's control of Pompey again, their decline is only going to continue. Liquidation might be a better option.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Back on the topic of the thread please.... <... tumbleweed blows across fratton park passing a slow moving invalid carriage ...> Oh well back to the lowe/anti-lowe thing then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Oh my god. Couldn't make it up. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/could-al-fahim-get-involved-at-pompey-again-1-3943137 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ottery st mary Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 AL-FAHIM........Should be able to explain who he actually sold Pompey to ..Mr Al-Mirage.. I feel another scam coming on ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Change the title to six Directors .... but obviously just leave the five characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 Bring back Arry boy and Sir Peter.. They could pay off ALL the debts and reunite the missing 250,000 best fans in the world.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 13 June, 2012 Share Posted 13 June, 2012 two choc ices, an orange lolly, and another attempted fraud involving a torturer whose banned from football please!...and if you get the chance to sell your shares to a man that doesn't exist while pocketing a few quid for your time, we'll have that too. And a slightly larger shirt. No Mr Whippy, I don't want your nuts and sauce on top, you're confusing me with your former manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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