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Fitzhugh Fella

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I think it is basically down to the bitterness felt by SFC supporters over the attitude of PFC supporters when we were relegated and the WBA result together with more bile when we were in administration.

 

When I was young there was competitiveness over derbies and wanting local teams to do well. It is the younger generation of both cities that have fostered the bile and hate and invented the Scummers/Skates. However most SFC supporters are disgusted with the behaviour of PFC in the past four years. I personally think they should be liquidated. Then they can get back to basics. It needs the council to CP Fratton Park. Southampton Council were prepared to purchase the stadium before we were takenover.

 

Nor do us Saints fans forget Pompey's Night of Shame on 2 December 2003. The night their 'fans' booed and jeered the Minute's Silence for Ted Bates.

 

That was unforgivable.

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Erm .. Unless I'm Mistaken I don't recall Tilly Baker being represented at the creditors meeting yesterday nor are they on the creditors committee that was appointed? As I say, I may have completely missed it

I believe there was a representative of "Portsmouth City Football Club", which, given that it is in liquidation and in the hands of Baker Tilly, I assumed to be them.

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I cannot see why chinny would take over the rotting corpse again. If he does all the players on stupid wages will stay put.No player is gonna walk away from £20,000 a week for a more realistic wage (half at least).

 

This means the wage bill will remain ENORMOUS and chinny will have to fund it to keep the golden share.

 

Where does he make any money.Poor TV revenue,smaller gates and a "stadium" that will need plenty of maintenance just to keep it rubbish.

 

I can only think he is trying to flush someone out.

 

Too me it doesn't add up (i am not too bright though). Can he make any cash by buying this s**te football club ?

 

I suppose some of his gangster buddies could do a Tony Soprano and visit all the players at home :scared:

 

Maybe we are destined for two thousand pages.

 

God bless HMRC.

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Nor do us Saints fans forget Pompey's Night of Shame on 2 December 2003. The night their 'fans' booed and jeered the Minute's Silence for Ted Bates.

 

That was unforgivable.

 

I agree it was unforgivable but to be fair there were also Pompey fans who were disgusted and made their feelings quite clear, including sending back their ST in one case. The discourse between the two sets of supporters has deteriorated in the last 20 years even if the actual trouble is less. I do remember that the Flavahon silence was immaculately observed at the opening game at SMS.

 

I know a lot of Pompey who are realistic and ashamed at what has gone on and would get rid of that Cup win in an instant. Granted, there are also a lot of Pompey that don't get that cheating on £17m+ of your taxes (allegedly) and local charities/SMEs is wrong and have resisted the neccessary medicine. There are also those that attack the Liebherr equity conversion in another form of denial when we know this includes purchase costs and substantial capital investment. The stadium alone cost £32m to build don't forget.

 

If they survive this, they've got to forget about the 'Scum' and competing with us and to an extent the Gentleman Jim era. They can still enjoy that in the record books, as Preston, Blackpool and Huddersfield, but minus any modern expectation or resonance.

 

They've got a League 1 fanbase with League 2 facilities and no training ground, that's not rivalry, that's the truth. That's without the debt millstone around their neck. Their best bet is to rebuild in League 2 - because I'd imagine they've got a big points deduction coming their way - and find their feet as a sustainable club. Bradford and Plymouth, two similar-sized clubs to Pompey, haven't found this easy. In that quest, I wish them well and if they can rebuild successfully, fair play as it will boost football in the area. But they have got to have some realism if they are going to bring people, including investors, on the journey.

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I agree it was unforgivable but to be fair there were also Pompey fans who were disgusted and made their feelings quite clear, including sending back their ST in one case. The discourse between the two sets of supporters has deteriorated in the last 20 years even if the actual trouble is less. I do remember that the Flavahon silence was immaculately observed at the opening game at SMS.

 

I know a lot of Pompey who are realistic and ashamed at what has gone on and would get rid of that Cup win in an instant. Granted, there are also a lot of Pompey that don't get that cheating on £17m+ of your taxes (allegedly) and local charities/SMEs is wrong and have resisted the neccessary medicine. There are also those that attack the Liebherr equity conversion in another form of denial when we know this includes purchase costs and substantial capital investment. The stadium alone cost £32m to build don't forget.

 

If they survive this, they've got to forget about the 'Scum' and competing with us and to an extent the Gentleman Jim era. They can still enjoy that in the record books, as Preston, Blackpool and Huddersfield, but minus any modern expectation or resonance.

 

They've got a League 1 fanbase with League 2 facilities and no training ground, that's not rivalry, that's the truth. That's without the debt millstone around their neck. Their best bet is to rebuild in League 2 - because I'd imagine they've got a big points deduction coming their way - and find their feet as a sustainable club. Bradford and Plymouth, two similar-sized clubs to Pompey, haven't found this easy. In that quest, I wish them well and if they can rebuild successfully, fair play as it will boost football in the area. But they have got to have some realism if they are going to bring people, including investors, on the journey.

 

Top Post - when put in that perspective I agree totally... its when we have the constant denial and chalenge to that reality that I get wound up by them. Prior to this whole issue, I was never in th 'hate' camp and know and respect several pompey fans who I include as some of the most decent folk I know through what they have contributed to causes - one of which was Saints related.

 

For them I feel sad, but for the ignorant 'face' of their support I could not geive a flying... They seem deluded - they honestly dont see that some of the media and other club sympathy is only there because they hasve no idea as to the extent of the debt of which they have failed to pay a single penny of aoutside of the football creditors.....

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Some great reading over on POL, discussing what the preferred outcome is - Chinny or Bust!

 

What these ungrateful DFCSBs forget is that the good man Chainrai has kept them alive for the last couple of years, without him and they would be finishing their first season in the Wessex league.

 

If he wants to charge them 24% interest for this, so be it! If you dont like it, off to Moneyfields you trot.

 

My position is secured, I will get my money back

 

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pompey get to see the architect of their demise tomorrow, our good friend Steve Cotteril - the king of quality over quantity

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Fitzhugh Fella

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Duncan im sorry but you are wrong, I'm surprised you made a mistake there, it is not like you.It is Scott Hiley

 

As for yesterday, I notice Meridian did the lead story of 3 Pompey players signing up to the Trust. Do they not realise how pathetic they who are taking massive wages from the club look as they sign?

 

I also thought that Meridian were subtly putting pressure on TBH by mentioning him above all players there, it seems Pompey are trying to turn the screw to make life so bad for him that he will walk.

 

Is it about time TB called Chanrais bluff and put them into liquidation? he keeps playing we are running out of money game, but now they have enough to June,it was not long ago when they weren't going to make the seasons end.

 

 

Yes you are quite right - my defence is I am nervous right now and not thinking clearly. Hopefully that will be put right in 24 hours

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In one sense Chinny is my hero because he has prolonged thier agony and depleated them of all funds and helped wring the corpse dry of essential sources of cash. On the other side he has helped the DFCSB to rob the tax payer of £36? million. and they are still trading.

 

He has dug them in to the biggest bottomless hole and he is soon to run away with the ladder!

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I had a bit of a spat with a work colleague earlier.... (a Spurs fan as it happens)

 

Every now and then I'll drop Pompey's cheating of the tax payer out of tens of millions of pounds into conversation and today he replied: "isn't it about time you stopped banging on about that and just let it go?"

 

To which I replied: "when you Labour voters stop banging on about cuts to public services I'll stop banging on about football clubs spunking the equivalent amount on buying the FA Cup"

 

He went a bit quiet thereafter...

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A gormless moronic idiot on Vital Pompey:-

 

Whereas Scum will be off to The Emirates, Etihad Stadium, Old Trafford, Anfield et al but in all honesty I really do know where I would sooner be going, and it is not to the likes of these clubs I can tell you!

 

Of course I did not want us to go down but so long as we can live on as a club league one, or even league two or non-league holds no fears for me. Hopefully as this club looks to heel its wounds we can enjoy 'proper football' again at real, and not plastic, clubs!

 

Whatever though, no matter how 'high' The Scummers may go, and how 'low' we do at least we retain the mantle of 'South Coast Kings...'

 

 

Read more: http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=280784#ixzz1tG3cjfJ1

 

He'd rather be playing in the third division than in the Premiership. But I presume that he was quite happy for the Skates to win the FA Cup, even though they bought it with money they didn't have. And one assumes that this principled Skate didn't personally go and watch them play those plastic Premiership teams like ManUre, Chelski, Liverpool, Arsenal, City, etc.

 

But the men wearing the white coats really ought to be coming to take him away, haha, for believing that although they will shortly be two divisions below us (at least), that they are still the South Coast Kings. Still they'll be "heeling" their wounds in the lower division playing real football, albeit with their squad of kids and journeymen.

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I had a bit of a spat with a work colleague earlier.... (a Spurs fan aa ot happens)

 

Every now and then I'll drop Pompey's cheating of the tax payer out of tens of millions of pounds into conversation and today he replied: "isn't it about time you stopped banging on about that and just let it go?"

 

To which I replied: "when you Labour voters stop banging on about cuts to public services I'll stop banging on about football clubs spunking the equivalent amount on buying the FA Cup"

 

He went a bit quiet thereafter...

 

I hope you didn't waste the opportunity to remind him who the manager was at p****y who embarked on this reckless spree to sign players on wages they couldn't afford, thus laying the foundations for their current plight.

 

I'm sure he won't do the same at Spurs.

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Will that be the same pompey fans that cheeered 'plastic' club's players such as Henry for ripping them a new one... and then use that praise of Henry and Arsenal to somehow justify their self proclaimed 'bestest fans status' by any chance? Their fans Have about the same attitude to bare faced 180 degree turnarounds as tabloid newspapers.

 

TBH, I never have and never will give a flying feck about where we or they are in the football pyramid, seriously to me they could win the Champions league with us in L2, and it would not matter, as that way leads to obsession about other clubsm, rather than supporting your own, but why do they insist on making it so difficult to resist hating them?

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They didn't all boo. Most Pompey fans weren't even there, it was an away game. As much as I dislike many of them, we have enough scummy fans of our own that I wouldn't want to be judged by. Every club has morons and decent fans.

 

I was in the Chapel, and their were some brainless Saints fans calling the offending Pompey fans wa nkers during the silence.

 

It's all got a bit silly really. I wonder of they will have the same hateful rivalry next season against Sholing?

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Firesale?

The building burned down nearly two and a half years ago, yet they only start a firesale today?!

 

The stock is beyond repair, much of it was pretty ropey when they got it, and some of the few believe they can get £2/£3M for Ben Haim!

 

New thinking required down the road - It's been mass clearout time since 2010, just get rid of the wages.

 

And for god's sake stop worshipping the players who have damaged the club, it makes you look silly.

 

Man Utd striker Danny Welbeck earns less than the majority of the pompey first team - let's just look at that in the cold light of day.

The richest club in the world with 75,000 gates and massive international commercial income, pays significantly less to some players than the likes of Kitson are earning?....:scared:

And they think the firesale will be easy! - the bonkers wages alone mean that the likes of Man Utd could not, or would not afford Ben Haim etc.

 

That fact of the month should get through to even the dimmest amoeba that pompey have been gaining a sporting advantage by outbidding rivals with money they could never afford.

But they don't want reality.

 

Appy's plucky battling heroes, never giving up, the great escape, Fortress fratton packed to the rafters with the bestest getting behind the loyal troops. :?

 

Even if the club survives hopefully we've heard the last of that type of embarrassing b0ll0x.

 

They were neither plucky nor loyal, the park was nowhere near packed, and Derby and Millwall stormed said fortress without breaking sweat as the troops proved to be a bunch of lethargic Girl Guides who only played when they fancied.

 

As for the homo-erotic Escape poster of Appy, I thought it was a long lost and previously-banned Frankie Goes to Hollywood single now released under the 30 year rule.

Pity, was looking forward to hearing it. :(

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@pn_neil_allen: #Pompey will bid farewell to almost all their players tomorrow. Sadly off the pitch those that caused this mess keep on haunting the club.

 

Yes people off the pitch like the local media who failed to raise alarm bells for either administration and encouraged the charade of them being a bigger club than their attendance and income really implied.

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And so the climax of the season approaches, and Nige is making sure our players have the appropriate levels of arousal. Hopefully we can celebrate promotion and an exciting future, after being in the top 2 all season.

 

Sadly, for the phew, it will be "If only we hadn't been unfairly docked 10 points!" That penalty has officially relegated them: they would've stayed up with those extra 10 points, and instead four other teams (Peterborough, Bristol C., Forest and Barnsley) would be fighting to avoid going down with Coventry and Donny. :lol:

 

COYR!

 

FOP!

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@pn_neil_allen: #Pompey will bid farewell to almost all their players tomorrow. Sadly off the pitch those that caused this mess keep on haunting the club.

 

I wonder if he will change his tune when Chinny rides back into town and ownership of the Skates??

 

(Although I would actually love it if the FL blocked Chinny from doing so and their "hard line" FaPPT led to a Skate liquidation.)

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And if they do slip up, will West Ham bury Hull under an avalanche of goals?

 

The top-flight bedblockers with an FA Cup win every bit as illegitimate as Redknapp's (ie. offside in their case) are going up, I am afraid. Should they do it, I'll say now: I won't be congratulating them.

 

 

Just got this off their forum.....yes, our FA cup win was just as illegitimate as theirs....if only the linesman had flagged all our local charities and businesses wouldn't have been ripped off......oh

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What's

 

ding - ding - ding - ding - diing - diiing - diiing - diiing ?

 

 

 

It's the doppler effect heard when a bell goes past you rapidly in the opposite direction.

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I wonder how much West Ham still have to pay for Henderson? Must say his playing stats for West Ham are quite impressive:

 

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