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No news then as the last of the sand falls in the pompey hour glass.

 

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My esteemed colleague Neil Allen was on the phone to Trevor Birch a little while ago. As things stand, it looks like there has been no change on the ownership question. My guess is that those who may have shown an interest may wait to see what division we are in next season. If I was looking to buy the club, that's what I would do.[/TD]

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Do you think these Div 1 grounds will be able to cope with Pompey's traveling army?

 

An army of 100? I think most clubs in the 1 League could cope with that number!!!

 

F'kin hell, still so deluded... it's only them that peddle this crap, no-one else. Well, apart from the odd media outlet.

 

Expect several sub-200 away attendances if they exist and they're in L1 next year. Doing a conga while you're underperforming megastars are getting whupped on the pitch does not constitute a good following.

 

They're the Braintree Town of the Champ.

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F'kin hell, still so deluded... it's only them that peddle this crap, no-one else. Well, apart from the odd media outlet.

 

Expect several sub-200 away attendances if they exist and they're in L1 next year. Doing a conga while you're underperforming megastars are getting whupped on the pitch does not constitute a good following.

 

They're the Braintree Town of the Champ.

 

If they sink lower they'll at least be able to boast of having 'taken Eastleigh's end'.

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They're going to get a shock. A division that could still contain big teams - Huddersfield or Sheffield Wednesday are likely to be down there, then you've got the Franchise who sadly always make a push for the play-offs/automatic spots, and Preston might turn it around.

 

Still, at least Bompey have another team to pretend they're fierce rivals with.

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If I was looking to buy the club, I'd hope my loved ones had me sectioned.

 

Quite. As those with mental incapacity are not deemed capable of entering into a legal contract, it follows that they will never be bought as only a looney would buy them who by definition would not be allowed to do so by virtue of being a looney and therefore the contract would be invalid. Perfectly squared circle.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/reading/9212637/Premier-League-investigate-Russian-takeover-of-Reading.html

 

Ooh that all sounds VERY familiar

 

TSI, rich kids Dad

 

Rumamafia

 

Lol FL may have grown some after all

 

It's the premier league, who are probably keen no one does a pompey again, that appear to have grown some, rather than the football league.

 

Appears to me that if the ownership is all above board then they should have no worries about showing the league the relevant company papers to prove it. If they are not forthcoming and its down to the league to investigate then given the opaque nature of these companies I can't see how they can approve it?

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meanwhile the pompey Trust is desperately trying to cobble together a deal but MoneyPenny is calling for stricter regulations on club owners.

 

Not sure that the portly vote-harvester's antics will help the Trust this time.

The last thing a potless consortium needs is more restrictions, they don't have proof of ANY funding, her call for more regulation could scupper any Trust deal.

 

 

 

Imagine Bristol City going into this weekend without those extra six points....and the few were worried we would do a 'West Brom' against Coventry.

The sporting gods have prepared a script for Saturday, the planets are coming into alignment.....

And despite having their own ref that day, what about those two points that pompey dropped at St Mary's that cost them a home banker against Millwall?

Those events have left the table on a delicate knife-edge that couldn't have been predicted back in August.

 

Could it be that we will go up the same day that they go down?

If so the swing in our league positions could be up near an astonishing 100 places quite soon.

Surely a plan couldn't come together that well?

 

And as one of the more vocal nutjobs on here I have to admit that if they are relegated and start next season with a penalty while we start life in the Premier League, I would consider that justice has finally been served.

No one is in prison yet and the madness of loanees and charity-shafting continues, but looking at the table I'm not sure they are getting away with it anymore.

 

This thread has been about investigating and highlighting the criminality, and laughing at the delusion.

So if they get some justice this weekend, or the next, perhaps PTS should be retired in the summer with full honours, and replaced by something that covers the plucky little clubs in the lower leagues?

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And as one of the more vocal nutjobs on here I have to admit that if they are relegated and start next season with a penalty while we start life in the Premier League, I would consider that justice has finally been served.

No one is in prison yet and the madness of loanees and charity-shafting continues, but looking at the table I'm not sure they are getting away with it anymore.

 

My sense of injustice is also dwindling by the minute as it appears that they are going down.

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My sense of injustice is also dwindling by the minute as it appears that they are going down.

 

No. It'll take them to start L1 next season with a further points deduction before I'll feel less aggrieved. Bottom of NPC/top end of L1 is their natural home given the size of the club and their real resources. It's only been the artificial inflation of their spending that has got them up above that in recent years.

 

Merely returning next season to where they should have been all this time anyway, is no punishment. They need to have a further deduction, or they will have effectively succeeded in cheating their way to a good run in the PL and a cup win with no real punishment, all paid for by the charities and others, including me as a taxpayer, that they have defrauded.

 

If someone nicked your booze and went out, having a really good time and getting drunk at your expense, would you consider it enough punishment if they merely got sober afterwards, but neither paid you for your property nor was arrested? Their spending spree over the past 6? (8?) years is much the same in principle. In fact, they went out on the town several times at our expense.

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and that's another problem. :?

Everytime you start to feel a little bit sorry for them, because let's face it, forget their brave face, they are having a fricking nightmare of a time, some member of the few starts arrogantly spouting off.

 

Huskellop is going to keep the scummers down with Birmingham.

Lawrence will blast Cardiff into the top two.

Henderson will help the Hammers get their rightful top two place.

The wonderstrike by Norris will be the one specific moment aside from anything else that has happened over nine gruelling months that changes our whole season and will be slightly re-written in folklore...:lol:

Stains will come straight back down and they are bankrupt.

We are much better off in League One, we'll bounce straight back... Good luck with that, it's a ****er of a division to get out of even when you have money!

 

And the whole bestest thing.....pompey are the best in the world, while all scVmmers boo their own team and leave after 70mins.

 

I'm not aware of another fanbase that makes these outrageous claims, and that's the embarrassing bit, being the only people to say you are the best, when you are so clearly not.

 

You could say, we've had a fricking nightmare of a season but there is still a trusty hardcore and we have a bell perhaps, but don't let the likes of Liverpool or Newcastle laugh at you as much as we do.

Those guys have bigger groundsman's sheds than Fratton, who would seriously announce that their fanbase is better than that of big clubs??

Even Leeds, West Ham and Derby must chuckle.

 

Norwich have a fantastic fanbase - Reading made more noise at SMS, but I don't hear them claiming to be the Galatasary of the south.

I saw hardy York City fans in Peterborough, didn't hear them saying they are bigger than Barcelona.

 

So I'll feel sorry for pompey if they want to be a bit humble, but it doesn't take too much of their delusion to wash that feeling away.

 

A polite tip for the few - be less deluded, get a reality check, bin the ludicrous portsMyths, and you might get less people laughing at you, and some respect from the likes of Crawley and Stevenage. :)

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and that's another problem. :?

Everytime you start to feel a little bit sorry for them, because let's face it, forget their brave face, they are having a fricking nightmare of a time, some member of the few starts arrogantly spouting off.

 

Huskellop is going to keep the scummers down with Birmingham.

Lawrence will blast Cardiff into the top two.

Henderson will help the Hammers get their rightful top two place.

The wonderstrike by Norris will be the one specific moment aside from anything else that has happened over nine gruelling months that changes our whole season and will be slightly re-written in folklore...:lol:

Stains will come straight back down and they are bankrupt.

We are much better off in League One, we'll bounce straight back... Good luck with that, it's a ****er of a division to get out of even when you have money!

 

And the whole bestest thing.....pompey are the best in the world, while all scVmmers boo their own team and leave after 70mins.

 

I'm not aware of another fanbase that makes these outrageous claims, and that's the embarrassing bit, being the only people to say you are the best, when you are so clearly not.

 

You could say, we've had a fricking nightmare of a season but there is still a trusty hardcore and we have a bell perhaps, but don't let the likes of Liverpool or Newcastle laugh at you as much as we do.

Those guys have bigger groundsman's sheds than Fratton, who would seriously announce that their fanbase is better than that of big clubs??

Even Leeds, West Ham and Derby must chuckle.

 

Norwich have a fantastic fanbase - Reading made more noise at SMS, but I don't hear them claiming to be the Galatasary of the south.

I saw hardy York City fans in Peterborough, didn't hear them saying they are bigger than Barcelona.

 

So I'll feel sorry for pompey if they want to be a bit humble, but it doesn't take too much of their delusion to wash that feeling away.

 

A polite tip for the few - be less deluded, get a reality check, bin the ludicrous portsMyths, and you might get less people laughing at you, and some respect from the likes of Crawley and Stevenage. :)

 

I've got quite a few Pompey mates that are sensible but yes, they do seem to have more than their fair share that are completely deluded about the potential they have. League One, if their points penalty isn't too severe, is more of a natural level for them with other clubs such as Huddersfield and Preston that have also had pre and post war glory periods but have now got relatively settled attendances in the early teens. Those two clubs have way better infrastructure though and I feel a bit sorry for Dean Hoyle at Huddersfield that they've had ex-Prem clubs like Norwich, Leeds, Saints, Charlton and Sheff Wed/Blades all clogging up League One. They'd have been solidly mid-table in the NPC this year, maybe better. They could do okay if they can survive the summer ans stay up next year but they need to be realistic about where they are for the next decade - a 'basic football club' as Birch put it which means League One at best for a while, maybe League Two - and forget about Saints altogether until they are ready to have another go at the second tier when the debts have moved down and the club stabilises. Forget all this rubbish about 'we'll always be the most important club on the South Coast even if we are in League 2', no-one north of Guildford or Basingstoke cares.

 

If they couldn't awake a 'sleeping giant' with a Cup win and 7 years of top flight football, they never will. As Claridge put it, the club 'hasn't changed a bit' during that time.

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Newport County were the same level as Portsmouth when I was a kid. Walsall, Newport County, Huddersfield, Portsmouth. There you go. County should be meeting up with them in a League fixture in a year or so i would imagine. Reality sucks eh fish ****ers.

 

Walsall work very hard on all commercial aspects of their business external to football to help support the club. Boxing nights, auctions, cabaret etc all contribute to their infrastructure development and business success. They are light years ahead of pompey and they have achieved this on the back of hard work, endeavour and entrepreneurialism.

 

The skates simply bent over for a bunch of gun runners, corrupt arabs, crooked asians and russian mobsters...

 

Huddersfield have also invested wisely to build a decent infrastrucutre and a fantastic stadium... they are a generation ahead of pompey at least.

 

Newport County is probably the closest match in todays world. (sorry Newport)

 

Still, im sure all the clubs in League 1 will be blown away by the 9000 packing the park at fortress fratton!

 

Or maybe the 1000 trust members mingling at moneyfields is more appropriate.

 

 

Thanks to the ticket office not bothering to put even a 2nd class stamp on my tickets for Saturday. Even better it cost me £1.36 to get them as the post office charge £1 handling charge. Not to mention the 5 mile round trip to the post office.

 

I know its petty but ffs.

 

PMSL... sometimes I just love pompey when they do things like this... classic!

 

One of the stewards apparently said that funding is in place to keep us going until the end of next season.

It was hearsay on my part and I wouldn't like to comment if there is actually any fact involved - but seemed a rumour worthy of putting on here for you all to guffaw or scoff at, as you please.

 

PMSL... got to love the old stewards rumours, its the hope that kills them etc.

 

 

I wonder if voldermort is still buying the bog rolls at Fratton park?

 

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Will everybody stop talking about league 1. :x

 

It's liquidation we should be chuckling about.

 

It is gonna happen and i cannot wait.

 

toast.

 

God bless HMRC.

 

I keep reminding myself that. Its funny really as whilst everyone other than Birch and the PST is completely distracted by preparing their little minds for League 1, they have forgotten about the severe situation they are in. They are days away from liquidation yet all they bleat about is how they are going to storm League 1!

 

They are hosing the garden whilst the house burns down behind their backs.

 

I had the pleasure of being inside one of HMRCs warehouses the other day, I half expected to find a load of seized boxes of skate shirts, unsold programs, thousands of unsold tickets and buckets of fat from the pipes!

 

COYHMRC!

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Nail on the head for me - if they are such a great asset with all this history , great fanbase, why has no one put up the cash - they really are self delusional bunch who believe their own hype in the Snooze - Its just a front and laughable that they stated that players loaned out to our promotion rivals may help their own twisted minds of seeing SFC fail - I don't want them liquidated just starting the league 1 with a minus 10 points , play the youngsters , pay off the millions they owe and then they may just get a bit of respect - 20k a week signings when they could pay off local business leaves a very sour taste in the mouth.

 

If they couldn't awake a 'sleeping giant' with a Cup win and 7 years of top flight football, they never will. As Claridge put it, the club 'hasn't changed a bit' during that time.

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I've got quite a few Pompey mates that are sensible but yes, they do seem to have more than their fair share that are completely deluded about the potential they have. League One, if their points penalty isn't too severe, is more of a natural level for them with other clubs such as Huddersfield and Preston that have also had pre and post war glory periods but have now got relatively settled attendances in the early teens. Those two clubs have way better infrastructure though and I feel a bit sorry for Dean Hoyle at Huddersfield that they've had ex-Prem clubs like Norwich, Leeds, Saints, Charlton and Sheff Wed/Blades all clogging up League One. They'd have been solidly mid-table in the NPC this year, maybe better. They could do okay if they can survive the summer ans stay up next year but they need to be realistic about where they are for the next decade - a 'basic football club' as Birch put it which means League One at best for a while, maybe League Two - and forget about Saints altogether until they are ready to have another go at the second tier when the debts have moved down and the club stabilises. Forget all this rubbish about 'we'll always be the most important club on the South Coast even if we are in League 2', no-one north of Guildford or Basingstoke cares.

 

If they couldn't awake a 'sleeping giant' with a Cup win and 7 years of top flight football, they never will. As Claridge put it, the club 'hasn't changed a bit' during that time.

 

Yes I agree. PFC are about the same size of club as Preston or Huddersfield. Big history from way back, but now natural inhabitants of L1, or maybe NPC in good years. Hence my earlier post about returing to L1 not realy being a punishment --it's where they shoud have been all along.

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Will everybody stop talking about league 1. :x

 

It's liquidation we should be chuckling about.

 

It is gonna happen and i cannot wait.

 

toast.

 

God bless HMRC.

 

I have been thinking exactly the same. It was Birch who warned that after the season finished, the club would fall off a precipice. The end of the season is only just over a week away. Those loaned players will come back and want to be paid. TBH will want his £36k a week to pay for his summer on the beach - along with all the other players. No season ticket sales and little other income coming in just spells disaster.

 

What a shame!!

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So realistically when will they be on the edge of liquidation? With no money coming into their club (used very loosely) after their last home game I would have thought it would have been weeks rather than months?

 

IIRC Birch said the money runs out on 2 June

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IIRC Birch said the money runs out on 2 June

 

In theory. Birch cited the 2nd June as a key date in that the Football League hold their 'AGM' on that day and I think he said Pompey would be asked to provide evidence that they can carry on at that meeting.

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In theory. Birch cited the 2nd June as a key date in that the Football League hold their 'AGM' on that day and I think he said Pompey would be asked to provide evidence that they can carry on at that meeting.

 

Ah, yes I bow to your better powers of recollection! Can't see that without negotiations being at a fairly advanced stage he'll be able to offer any dort of guarantee though.

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In theory. Birch cited the 2nd June as a key date in that the Football League hold their 'AGM' on that day and I think he said Pompey would be asked to provide evidence that they can carry on at that meeting.

 

Firstly let's this out of the way - I want them to got to the wall, and vey hard at that! But, I really can not see them going pop. Just can't see it. chanrai has already said if no-one else comes in the he will. they will be saved dfcsb!

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Firstly let's tis outbf the way - I want them to g t the wall, and vey hard at that! But, I really can not see them gong pop. Just can't see it. chanrai has already said if no-one else comes in the he will. they will be saved dfcsb!

 

Doesnt mean Chanrai will save them long term though. He may well do a 'Bill Archer' and sell the ground and everything of value before passing on the rump club for £1

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Crazy idea/wishful thinking time..........

 

Surely, all income ceases after their final home match (this Saturday) so to keep the club running for another week or three is a waste of funds and depriving creditors of money. Therefore, they should liquidate on Monday morning (or sooner) or the administrators should be forced to reimburse the creditors to the tune of all monies spent after Saturday evening.

 

I mean, honestly, why should they keep on paying out when liquidation is virtually a given within a month anyway?

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...but if our draw was very high scoring, it would/might help:)

 

That's true. :)

 

And, as a bonus, if we are level on g.d. and goals scored, we win the next tiebreaker (head to head). Although if it gets to that it'll be serious brown pants time. :?

 

But nothing compared to what the phew are going through, of course. :lol:

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Brilliant - they are planning for away days against Crawley and Yeovil while we await the fixture list for away games at Liverpool, Man U and Chelsea :)

 

Those are rather ambitious plans for the Cheats. Instead they should be preparing for epic battles against the likes of The Fish Fiddlers Pub second XI.

 

But when we do (hopefully, etc) go up it will allow us to have a good laugh at West Ham for effectively paying for them to continue but not getting automatic promotion for it.

 

Good shout, forgot about that. Oh how we'll laugh. :lol:

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Didn't they defer their wages until 'the end of the season'?

 

Birch ducked this question when he did the web chat. He said at the end of that that he'd give 'the News' answer to the questions he'd not had time to answer, but I see no sign of anything being published.

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