Gingeletiss Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 I wonder if Midland Blue will rear his ugly head again. and there he is!!!!
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 14:12 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From Bill Walsh Why are Southampton Football Club on the list of creditors again?! Surely we don't owe them money?! PUP! [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
doddisalegend Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 I see on the beeb that Trevor Birch says no offers to buy Portsmouth have been made Portsmouth administrator Trevor Birch has said that no offers have been made to buy the club, and that liquidation is still a possibility. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17677437 Do you think interested buyers are waiting to see what league the skates will be in first or......is there nobody, who can actual afford to buy the club, interested
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:18 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From Jonesy Jonesy : ] What question would you ask Trevor Birch in his webcaht this Friday if you weren't a Portsmouth News journalist? [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:18 Jonesy [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:18 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neil: What does he really think of Chainrai and Andronikou! They've done their best to discredit him!!! [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:18 Neil [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 That 'Clive' is an intelligent chap. *cough* thank you *cough*
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Derek's quite good too.... [TABLE] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:21 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From Derek Derek : ] I've just realised that Southampton have lost twice to Bristol City this season.....they could end up contributing to our relegation this season! Dislike them even more now! PUP! [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:21 Derek [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 [TABLE] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:21 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From OldfieldBlue OldfieldBlue : ] Shocking list of creditors again - Poppy Appeal? So much for the FA's ex Head of Integrity eh? Beginning to think we deserve all we get... [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:21 OldfieldBlue [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
pedg Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Have asked if he knows who is going to cover the ongoing losses of the club if it is bought by their trust (something their website is, strangely, not very enlightening on) but not got through yet.
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:25 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From JamesPFCtrue JamesPFCtrue : ] How do you feel about the club owing the same sort of people...including schools, St Johns ambulance money STILL..yet we continue to extend players loan agreements. I do not believe for one minute that these players come at no cost to PFC [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:25 JamesPFCtrue [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:27 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neil: Morally it is wrong, however the club still has to keep fulfilling its fixtures. These are young lads on low wages whose cost are being largely suplemented by their parent club. Still doesn't help the local businesses who continued to be treated appallingly. They haven't even been paid for the last CVA. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
Thedelldays Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:25[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From JamesPFCtrue JamesPFCtrue : ] How do you feel about the club owing the same sort of people...including schools, St Johns ambulance money STILL..yet we continue to extend players loan agreements. I do not believe for one minute that these players come at no cost to PFC[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:25 JamesPFCtrue [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:27[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neil: Morally it is wrong, however the club still has to keep fulfilling its fixtures. These are young lads on low wages whose cost are being largely suplemented by their parent club. Still doesn't help the local businesses who continued to be treated appallingly. They haven't even been paid for the last CVA.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] .
Thedelldays Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 can't believe they are letting my posts on...even though they are vetting them all
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:42 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From Olga Olga : ] Do you have any sympathy or empathy with the Daily Echo who have suffered similar bans at St Mary's in recent years? [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:42 Olga [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:43 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neil: Definitely. Why is a club doing as well as that banning local press? It doesn't make sense. In fact there isn't any need for it. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
hamster Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 can't believe they are letting my posts on...even though they are vetting them all I'm surprised that we still let you on here dd.... Joke of course. No hint of biting either....oh hang on....
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Mr Slater's on the case... Matt Slater @mattslaterbbc Usual litany of sins (£10.5m to HMRC £60k to council, £27k to cops) but #pompey seem to have not paid a hotel bill for some time
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:51 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From NorthamptonChimes NorthamptonChimes : ] Thought last night was something of a surrender. Going down without so much as a whimper. I expect Appy to want a major-league clear out in the summer. But you can't rely on loanees to keep you up. They will shrug their shoulders and go back to their parent clubs. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:51 NorthamptonChimes [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:53 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neil: The Sheffield United chairman last season blamed the amount of loanees they had for their relegation. Pompey haven't had a choice. Although the majority have been decent it is fair to say. Certainly a class above Dicko and Sonko! [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:53 Neil [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] "Didn't have a choice"?! No academy players to call upon then....? Sigh
standy Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 It appears the list of creditors is a combination of those from the initial CVA and new creditors so it is almost certainly the same 40k. I spoke to the headmaster of KES and he assured me that for the first (?) admin that he was not so stupid to allow PFC any credit and had always insisted on 'cash up front' so were not owed anything by them. I wonder what has changed
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 (edited) [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:54[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From Stever Stever : ] Hi Neil. I know this is going over old ground but I just can't believe after half a billion went through PFC whilst we were in the Prem that nothing was done to even secure a training ground. Surely that was a bare minimum that could have been pumped back into the club but alas nothing.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:54 Stever [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:55[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neil: Pompey had the chance to buy the training ground under Redknapp. They spent the money on players instead. Stoke are currently upgrading their training ground by spending £6m. Makes you think doesn't it.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Erm.....no....it didn't make Pompey fans "think"....for years.... Edited 11 April, 2012 by trousers
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:57 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From Stocker from Stamshaw Stocker from Stamshaw : ] Just to lighten the mood a little, lets ask some smaller questions! Have we resolved the issue of the fat in the pipes which prevents us from having hot water? And, will the clock be fixed? [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:57 Stocker from Stamshaw [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:58 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neil: Actually, you have just reminded me. Dubov recently in an interview spoke of his pride at what CSI had achieved at the club - a Pompey app. Thanks for that. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
LGTL Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Someone just asked if they can afford Huseklepp and Mullins in League 1... They can't afford them now you absolute cretin!
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Matt Slater @mattslaterbbc I also spotted a familiar name amongst the agents, lawyers, other clubs etc, write something for the prog @AndrewWarshaw?!
pedg Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:54[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From Stever Stever : ] Hi Neil. I know this is going over old ground but I just can't believe after half a billion went through PFC whilst we were in the Prem that nothing was done to even secure a training ground. Surely that was a bare minimum that could have been pumped back into the club but alas nothing.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:54 Stever [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:55[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neil: Pompey had the chance to buy the training ground under Redknapp. They spent the money on players instead. Stoke are currently upgrading their training ground by spending £6m. Makes you think doesn't it.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Erm.....no....it didn't make Pompey fans "think" for years.... Now if the building firms had done a deal where redknapp got 10% of the contract it might have been different...
holepuncture Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:57 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][Comment From Stocker from Stamshaw Stocker from Stamshaw : ] Just to lighten the mood a little, lets ask some smaller questions! Have we resolved the issue of the fat in the pipes which prevents us from having hot water? And, will the clock be fixed? [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday April 11, 2012 14:57 Stocker from Stamshaw [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:58 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Neil: Actually, you have just reminded me. Dubov recently in an interview spoke of his pride at what CSI had achieved at the club - a Pompey app. Thanks for that. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Gutted I didnt manage to get anymore in other than my favourite fat in the pipes, only caught the chat right at the end! Its been a while, but I think on this magnificent day these will be quite fitting: I remember Corp having a go at me for constantly bombrading him with Moneyfields pictures... shalala
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Matt Slater @mattslaterbbc Scary thing for #pompey is there's not much of a gap between going concern & wind-up values, £73m/£59m - are they 'worth' saving?
suewhistle Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Time for this one again methinks As researched by Suewhistle!:-) [Memory for useless facts...]
dubai_phil Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 As researched by Suewhistle!:-) [Memory for useless facts...] Knew it was someone regular from here but after going back 60 pages in a valiant attempt to re-quote I gave up & went direct to You Tube:)
dubai_phil Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Gotta hurt ain't it. Not that I understand these things, but according to Twitter it is Happy Hump Day today. Now does that refer to what is happening to PCFC, your legendary poster, what I better do to FDMP this evening or is it just some Eurovision thingy?
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Matt Slater @mattslaterbbc Scary thing for #pompey is there's not much of a gap between going concern & wind-up values, £73m/£59m - are they 'worth' saving? Especially when is valued at £22m hahahahaha, it's worth what ... £5m tops???
bridge too far Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Wouldn't it be great if the English FL had the same attitude to football finance as the Scottish lot? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/17681268 BTW ignore the fact that the link seems to refer to Rugby Union - cock up by the BBC webmeisters!
holepuncture Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 God bless HMRC. And God bless Lord Andronikou of UHY for his £200k fee for gobbing off to the press once or twice before Birch got the gig. God bless Birch for doing the skates for £318 per hour. God bless the good man Chainrai. God bless the russian mafia who promised the skates he would write off their £10.8m debt, only for that to be legally impossible in admin, and for them to sit proudly at the top of Birches £59m unsecured creditors list. God bless Tal Ben Haim, it goes without saying. God bless Lampit and Cotteril and quality over quantity - the second highest spenders in the league! Not really into god bothering, but we have a number of people who are due a blessing for their services to SFC.
suewhistle Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Knew it was someone regular from here but after going back 60 pages in a valiant attempt to re-quote I gave up & went direct to You Tube:) No probs, I'm feeling magnanimous.;-) Earnt a bit teaching this morning, skied fresh powder under blue skies then came home to the first class entertainment this thread represents - it constantly gets better in a succession of laughs, dropped jaw in amazement and wicked chuckles at Pompey's plight. A quick snooze and I'll be ready for footie training tonight: what a perfect day.:-)
dubai_phil Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Again from Matt Slater .....but #pompey seem to have not paid a hotel bill for some time. It is just Incredulous. And yet even Birch admitted in the statement "getting a balance between "my word - gambling" to stay up and cutting costs Even HE couldn't resist it - pay the players sod the poor Hotels/Taxi Drivers/Coach Companies. TBH I am now at the point where Liquidation is no longer good enough for them SURELY there must be SOME laws against this. People deserve JAIL time
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Sky Sports @SkySports Rangers administrators have been forced to delay the announcement of a preferred bidder for the Ibrox club . More on site soon. Hmmm, wonder what's going on up there...maybe one of the bidders has seen Pompey's administration report and decided they're a much better proposition....
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Matt Slater @mattslaterbbcSo, newco #RFC COULD start next 2 yrs on -10, lose 75% of SPL £ for 3yrs & miss Europe til 2015. Price worth paying to dump debt? Stephen D @stephend_1 90 seconds with a calculator shows that it is a superb deal for #RFC but the death blow to meritocracy and sporting integrity
dubai_phil Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Sky Sports @SkySports Rangers administrators have been forced to delay the announcement of a preferred bidder for the Ibrox club . More on site soon. Hmmm, wonder what's going on up there...maybe one of the bidders has seen Pompey's administration report and decided they're a much better proposition.... There seems to be some kind of deal on the table from SFA - ban from Europe etc etc or relegation to Div 3
bridge too far Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 I'll repost the link for all you poor old boys who didn't read it before. It explains EXACTLY why the Rangers business has been put on hold http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/17681268
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 I'll repost the link for all you poor old boys who didn't read it before. It explains EXACTLY why the Rangers business has been put on hold http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/17681268 You should know what us blokes are like when it comes to reading information that we have to go to the trouble of opening first :-)
FarehamRed Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 And God bless Lord Andronikou of UHY for his £200k fee for gobbing off to the press once or twice before Birch got the gig. God bless Birch for doing the skates for £318 per hour. God bless the good man Chainrai. God bless the russian mafia who promised the skates he would write off their £10.8m debt, only for that to be legally impossible in admin, and for them to sit proudly at the top of Birches £59m unsecured creditors list. God bless Tal Ben Haim, it goes without saying. God bless Lampit and Cotteril and quality over quantity - the second highest spenders in the league! Not really into god bothering, but we have a number of people who are due a blessing for their services to SFC. Don't forget the one and only Peter Storrey. Saints legend?
trousers Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Adrian Durham (TalkSport) just read out the administrator's announcement about the possible liquidation. He obviously hasn't been made aware of the new list of creditors yet otherwise he would have gone ballistic. Then Darren Gough said "They've still got a decent stadium though". To which Durham replied: "You're joking!? It's the pits!"
Gemmel Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Well I just read the report and might have to take back my prediction this morning they won't be liquidated. Outside of the higher than expected debt, a few nice snippets, but basically the whole document is one big dig at the secured creditors. 1) Baker Tilly seem to have dibs on the parachute payments - Birch still looking into this. 2) Chinny - he's trying to go for the parachute payments - Birch looking into whether this is possible 3) Some 4 million pounds might have been magiced from the old co, but guess what - Birch is looking into this. But when you add it all up, the message to BT, Chinny and Gaydamak (Unless I am being very stupid) is that you will get a tiny amount from a CVA and most likely nothing from liquidation. But looks like all three of them have dropped Birch and are going straight for the gold parachute payments. What I do think (No idea if this is even legal) is that there is strong possibility the FL agreed to give new co the Golden Share last time round on the basis that the parchute payments were assigned to Baker Tilly. As noted at paragraph 3.23 the receipt of future payments is subject to compliance withPremier League rules. Certain Parachute Payments otherwise due to the Company arepotentially subject to an assignment in favour of OldCo. Our solicitors are investigating theCompaniesposition in respect of the assignment and we are unable to comment any furtherat this stage.
sotonjoe Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 It appears the list of creditors is a combination of those from the initial CVA and new creditors so it is almost certainly the same 40k. I don't think it is. Portpin / the OldCo are owed £16.5m on this new list for the CVA which was arranged as the partial repayment of the old debts. The remaining £24m of the total £40m would appear to be new.
Gorgiesaint Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Adrian Durham (TalkSport) just read out the administrator's announcement about the possible liquidation. He obviously hasn't been made aware of the new list of creditors yet otherwise he would have gone ballistic. Then Darren Gough said "They've still got a decent stadium though". To which Durham replied: "You're joking!? It's the pits!" You could tell that Durham was almost lost for the right words - I was waiting for the expletives to come out!
sotonjoe Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 There's a lot of the creditors from the old list who are not on the new list PLUS Portsmouth City Football Club Ltd (in LIquidation) - OldCo - are on the new lost, to the tune of £16.5m. These are new creditors and new amounts chaps. Correct. That's how it seems to me after having read through the whole report. The report even makes it clear that the current admin are unclear how much of the £16.5m debt will remain payable once the liquidation of OldCo is complete. In other words, they're hoping they can erase a lot of the old £16.5m debt which will take a big chunk off the total £40m currently owed.
Pedro Posted 11 April, 2012 Posted 11 April, 2012 Just looked at the creditors list. This is not bad luck or a shortfall due to CSI downfall, this has manifested itself over a longer period. Just look at how many football clubs are listed, even S****horpe, a huge slice to Wembley etc. This has been a deliberate act in my opinion because they have not intended to pay any of those hotel bills that must refer to every away game including some from last season (Marriot in Swansea) so IMO this has been a fraud and the directors, especially Lampitt, should be banned for years from ever being a director again. There should be no chance of them having the opportunity to trade again "as is" and should be liquidated just as any other company would be in that situation. Not just toast but burnt toast.
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