trousers Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Just underline how critical their situation is... Not even Marc Jackson will touch them Whaaaaaa.....? You mean....you mean....no south coast monkey chicken petting zoo...? How am I gonna break this bombshell to the kids...? :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/556423389?-11209 A good write up, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 I hear lots of urges to pack the park. Why would the bestest need urging? Surely they sell out immediately at full price and have 10,000 they have to turn away, but as they're the bestest, said 10,000 donate their full price ticket money anyway and stand outside the ground singing PUP for 2 hours. Right? Cos they is the bestest? Here's something else to put the 'bestest fans in the world' to shame... now this is what you have to do to be considered... http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/story/_/id/7672386/german-club-dynamo-dresden-sells-stadium-ban Now I know tickets are cheaper in Germany, but the phew have reduced their prices, but that is 32k in the German second division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Here's something else to put the 'bestest fans in the world' to shame... now this is what you have to do to be considered... http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/story/_/id/7672386/german-club-dynamo-dresden-sells-stadium-ban Now I know tickets are cheaper in Germany, but the phew have reduced their prices, but that is 32k in the German second division. Priceless. A sell out for a game that the fans can't even WATCH! Ah ha perhaps we are onto something here - Dear Mr Birch. Considering the team you now administer is rubbish, may we propose that you now sell tickets to the phew that ensure they do NOT have to watch their shower of sh1te. You know something like a pay 20 quid to get a voucher telling you to go stand on southsea Common instead so you don't have to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 @solentsport: #saintsfc legend Matt Le Tissier believes current boss Nigel Adkins has done a fantastic job @solentsport: Le Tissier is also desperate to see #pompey survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 @solentsport: #saintsfc legend Matt Le Tissier believes current boss Nigel Adkins has done a fantastic job @solentsport: Le Tissier is also desperate to see #pompey survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/556423389?-11209 A good write up, "...while Town pulled out of deals for keeper Stephen Henderson and the versatile Joel Ward at the 11th hour after baulking at the duo’s wage demands." Now this can't be right. We had it on good authority that the players had turned down moves away becuase they loved P*mpey and were "all in it together". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Just one thing to mention, the Football League don't count players who have no first team appearances in the squad numbers - that's why they're not picking the U-19s - as soon as they do, they count towards the total and reduce their chance of getting another loan in. But then they're only allowed to have 5 loans in a match day squad and 4 on the pitch at once anyway, so they're running out of wiggle room. Exactly. So personally I fully expect that soon Appleton will decide some of these youngsters have matured suddenly and rapidly, and are now ready for first team action after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/packing-the-park-will-help-me-sell-the-club-birch-1-3632505?commentssort=1 Meanwhile Tottenham Hotspur manager Harry Redknapp, who was Pompey boss from 2002 to 2004 and again from 2005 to 2008, last night said he was ‘sad’ to see the club enduring its current problems. In a television interview, he said: ‘When you look back on it, you look at the money they sold players for. ‘People like Glen Johnson, who we paid £4m for and £19m to Liverpool – you just wonder where all the money disappeared to. May I just say.........Rosie, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 "...while Town pulled out of deals for keeper Stephen Henderson and the versatile Joel Ward at the 11th hour after baulking at the duo’s wage demands." Now this can't be right. We had it on good authority that the players had turned down moves away becuase they loved P*mpey and were "all in it together". So Wet Sham have met Henderson's huge wage demands...plus paid a massive downpayment...all to sit and watch from the stands. If the debt-ridden Hamsters f*ck this up they're...how does it go....toast! Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 @solentsport: #saintsfc legend Matt Le Tissier believes current boss Nigel Adkins has done a fantastic job @solentsport: Le Tissier is also desperate to see #pompey survive WHat he actaully said was that he didnt want to see them go out of business as he wants to see us thrash them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 @solentsport: #saintsfc legend Matt Le Tissier believes current boss Nigel Adkins has done a fantastic job @solentsport: Le Tissier is also desperate to see #pompey survive TBF, he's probably not alone in that. Afterall, the rivalry is part of our local footballing culture as well as theirs. Thing is, it has become impossible to feel any sympathy because right now, the shear scale of their financial problems and because of the hideous way in which they have avoided a punishment that truely fits the repeated attempts to gain some sort of competitive advantage compared to other clubs with similar revenue restrictions etc.... And quite simply their constant refusal to acknowledge they have 'gained' anything from this masterpiece of financial mismanagement. Footbal authorities seem clueless or spineless in dealing with the financial mess some clubs ahve gotten themselves into and if there is bitterness, it's fair to say part of that is down to the simple fact that when we were (rightly) punished for our own recent administration, the effects of the -10 were far greater despite a pitance of debt compared with their 120 mil + the recent unknown amounts - there is simply no consistency here, nor is there a scale of punishment that is appropriate - therefore the only one many of us see as truely just is if they dissapear up their own arseholes - If the FL had the balls and the will, I am sure a suitable punishment could be given that would allow survival, but would act as a far more appropriate warning/deterent to other clubs treading a similar line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 WHat he actaully said was that he didnt want to see them go out of business as he wants to see us thrash them. Not his exact words Joey but that is along the lines of what he said, made me smile when asked has NC brought you up a drink when he has been in the ex-Saints box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 (edited) http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/556423389?-11209 A good write up, "The Blues [ipswich Town] worked tirelessly to try and sign a trio of Pompey players during the January transfer window. However, with severity of the south coast club’s financial woes not completely clear at that stage" All anyone had to do was to look at this thread. All of us here were well aware of the severity of their financial woes ... Edited 16 March, 2012 by Kingsland Codger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/packing-the-park-will-help-me-sell-the-club-birch-1-3632505?commentssort=1 Meanwhile Tottenham Hotspur manager Harry Redknapp, who was Pompey boss from 2002 to 2004 and again from 2005 to 2008, last night said he was ‘sad’ to see the club enduring its current problems. In a television interview, he said: ‘When you look back on it, you look at the money they sold players for. ‘People like Glen Johnson, who we paid £4m for and £19m to Liverpool – you just wonder where all the money disappeared to. May I just say.........Rosie, that is all. This is the problem with the media perception of Pompey's situation over the last 5 years or so. They quote absolute luddites like Redknapp saying things like that and the Few get it into their heads that the money must have been siphoned away somewhere, completely ignoring the fact that transfer fees aren't the only expense when it comes to players Take Johnson as an example, they paid £4m as a transfer fee and sold him for £18m (according to Soccerbase, although they didn't actually receive £18m cash, a big chunk of it was offset against money still owed for Peter Crouch). Sounds like a £14m profit. However, chuck in a signing-on fee (guess at £1m), agents fees (around the same) and £60k a week over the three years he was at the club, they're down to a £3m profit on that one player. As an alternative example, they bought Peter Crouch for £9m from Liverpool and sold him for the same amount to Spurs a year later. Signing-on fee, agents fees, etc probably came to another £2m. He was on £75k a week (), a cost of £3.75m over the course of a year, and then they had to pay him another £250k just to leave because Spurs wouldn't pay him anywhere near what Pompey were giving him. So while they "broke even" on the transfer fee, he actually cost them around £6m for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 I thought this was another tweet about the pompey match: Saints FC The Comedy Club Comes To Southampton FC: http://www.halo-ce.co.uk/News/tabid/99/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/22/The-Comedy-Club-comes-to-Southampton.aspx #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 This is the problem with the media perception of Pompey's situation over the last 5 years or so. They quote absolute luddites like Redknapp saying things like that and the Few get it into their heads that the money must have been siphoned away somewhere, completely ignoring the fact that transfer fees aren't the only expense when it comes to players Take Johnson as an example, they paid £4m as a transfer fee and sold him for £18m (according to Soccerbase, although they didn't actually receive £18m cash, a big chunk of it was offset against money still owed for Peter Crouch). Sounds like a £14m profit. However, chuck in a signing-on fee (guess at £1m), agents fees (around the same) and £60k a week over the three years he was at the club, they're down to a £3m profit on that one player. As an alternative example, they bought Peter Crouch for £9m from Liverpool and sold him for the same amount to Spurs a year later. Signing-on fee, agents fees, etc probably came to another £2m. He was on £75k a week (), a cost of £3.75m over the course of a year, and then they had to pay him another £250k just to leave because Spurs wouldn't pay him anywhere near what Pompey were giving him. So while they "broke even" on the transfer fee, he actually cost them around £6m for a year. You forgot to mention the 5 or 10 % bonus to Redknapp as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 I thought this was another tweet about the pompey match: Saints FC The Comedy Club Comes To Southampton FC: http://www.halo-ce.co.uk/News/tabid/99/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/22/The-Comedy-Club-comes-to-Southampton.aspx #saintsfc Ha beat me to it - I was gonna paste the link to tickets from the OS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17397554 Saints legend Matthew Le Tissier wants Portsmouth survival Southampton legend Matthew Le Tissier says he is 'saddened' by the ongoing financial problems at fierce south-coast rivals Portsmouth. Le Tissier, 43, wants Pompey can survive so that the rivalry between the two clubs can continue. "It's sad to see, to be honest with you," Le Tissier told BBC Radio Solent's Julian Clegg breakfast show. "Nobody wants to see clubs go out of business. I know they are our fiercest rivals but I want them to survive." Le Tissier played 443 times for the Saints, his only club, scoring 162 goals. He is considered one of their greatest ever players. “I want Portsmouth to still be there so we can beat them whenever we play them next” The former England midfielder knows what Pompey fans are going through, with Southampton also having experienced financial difficulty in recent years. Portsmouth are currently in administration and in serious danger of being liquidated. "I want them to still be there so we can beat them whenever we play them next," added Le Tissier. "There is no way I would like to see Portsmouth go out of business and I am sure there were a lot of Pompey fans who felt them same about us when we were in trouble. "They still wanted the rivalry, we've been where they've been and it's not a nice place. No football fan wants to see what they are going through." Meanwhile, Portsmouth boss Michael Appleton says the outcome of the next two home games against Bristol City and Birmingham will affect the club's transfer decisions next week. Two victories would give Pompey a fighting chance of survival but a couple of defeats would almost certainly condemn the club to relegation. Appleton says this could help decide whether or not players are sold ahead of the loan window closing next Thursday with the club planning for life in League One. The club have already sent Hayden Mullins, Liam Lawrence and Erik Huseklepp out on loan and more could follow before Thursday if Pompey lose their next two games as they look to slash their wage bill. "We are not stupid, we know if we lose the games it is going to be very difficult to stay up," Appleton told BBC Radio Solent. "But if we do win the games there is an opportunity to stay up bearing in mind we still have to play Doncaster, Coventry and Forest around us. "I think that what happens on the pitch on Saturday and Tuesday will dictate what happened on Wednesday and Thursday." And Pompey midfielder David Norris has admitted the uncertainty around the club is having an effect on the players saying it is difficult for them knowing they could be sold or sent out on loan at any moment. Mullins' departure to Reading on Thursday was the latest big-name departure from Fratton Park. "It's not easy seeing players leave," Norris told BBC Radio Solent. "You prepare yourself mentally, but is is unsettling seeing players leave and knowing you could have to leave yourself. "You could come in to work and be told you have to leave. That would be a tough situation and luckily it hasn't happened to me yet." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Hooray, Harry Pearson gets it, regarding Redknapp. Tucked away in this piece http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/16/steve-claridge-football-tactics Six paragraphs in: "Harry Redknapp is the people's choice, though not apparently in Portsmouth where some fans irrationally blame him for the club's current financial difficulties. What utter nonsense. The fact that every club Harry has ever been in charge of – Bournemouth, West Ham, Southampton, Pompey – has stumbled into a financial quagmire after he left is actually the surest indication there could possibly be of the canniness of his stewardship." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 This is the problem with the media perception of Pompey's situation over the last 5 years or so. They quote absolute luddites like Redknapp saying things like that and the Few get it into their heads that the money must have been siphoned away somewhere, completely ignoring the fact that transfer fees aren't the only expense when it comes to players Take Johnson as an example, they paid £4m as a transfer fee and sold him for £18m (according to Soccerbase, although they didn't actually receive £18m cash, a big chunk of it was offset against money still owed for Peter Crouch). Sounds like a £14m profit. However, chuck in a signing-on fee (guess at £1m), agents fees (around the same) and £60k a week over the three years he was at the club, they're down to a £3m profit on that one player. As an alternative example, they bought Peter Crouch for £9m from Liverpool and sold him for the same amount to Spurs a year later. Signing-on fee, agents fees, etc probably came to another £2m. He was on £75k a week (), a cost of £3.75m over the course of a year, and then they had to pay him another £250k just to leave because Spurs wouldn't pay him anywhere near what Pompey were giving him. So while they "broke even" on the transfer fee, he actually cost them around £6m for a year. Exactly, but plus 10% of the supposed 'profit' for Redknapp, so in Johnson's case £1.4 million to him, so the real profit is down to £1.6 million. And I think Storrie was getting a percentage too wasn't he? So that's the profit almost disappeared. This on what appears to be a really good bit of business , never mind counting the transfers which made a loss. So in effect the answer to where the money went is, "to the greedy players, and to you and your mates, Redknapp" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 (edited) Hooray, Harry Pearson gets it, regarding Redknapp. Tucked away in this piece http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/16/steve-claridge-football-tactics Six paragraphs in: "Harry Redknapp is the people's choice, though not apparently in Portsmouth where some fans irrationally blame him for the club's current financial difficulties. What utter nonsense. The fact that every club Harry has ever been in charge of – Bournemouth, West Ham, Southampton, Pompey – has stumbled into a financial quagmire after he left is actually the surest indication there could possibly be of the canniness of his stewardship." I thought this comment after the article was just as interesting "There's a Czech footballer with the surname "Sourek", which actually means 'scrotum'. The Czechs have a way with names. In the mid-70s the regular starting lineup for Slavia Prague included three players - Cipro, Grospic and Jebavy - whose names could be roughly translated as Knobhead (in Czech Silesian dialect), Big C--t, and Fu ckable" Edited 16 March, 2012 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifelongsaint83 Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Pompey Voice @pompeyvoice Pompey are slowly becoming a self sufficient club, it's long, painful and totally **** but it's 100% the right thing #Pompey Are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporate Ho Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 That's the problem with them own the road. Their inability to separate the issues and understand the subtle differences. Importantly, we have not 'broken the bank' in terms of wages - yes we are probably slightly above where we would like to be in terms of wage to revenue ratio - at a guess around 60%, when the ideal would be no more than 50 - but its manageable and we have players who are easiliy sellable and their wages are not so ridiculous that other clubs cant consider them.... So, in a nutshell, we have invested WISELY in areas that will yield a return, not simply slung mponey at players and agents and transfers 2. However, can it really be justice that a club who has written off 120mil + on...er nothing but player wages and transfer fees The only danger would be if they did sell to someone who levergaed the club to be able to buy it saddling us with debt - It is this loophole the FL and FA need to close - If you dont have the cash - feck off. In addition to avoid the chinney situation, they should also make sure that when owners 'lend' monies to their clubs, it has to be as a 'gift' or without any security - this would remove all the tyre kickers and chancers 1. I wouldn't be too sure about your players "affordable" wages FC. The stories going around from people at your own club is that you've got several of them on around £25K a week and Sharp was reported to hjave signed for at least £20K a week. 2. Still trotting out lies about Pompey's debt being all down to money spent on players and wages when it keeps being pointed out to you that huge chunkls of that debt were actually loaded onto the club by previous owners (£32m was what Fahim agreed to pay for the land around the ground to Gaydamak then loaded the debt onto the club, Chainrai's £17m "debenture" for money that was allegedly loaned to al Faraj, £5m to Fahim and on and on). Then, in your next breath you acknowledge that our owners have saddled us with debt and also agree that it could happen to you. Make your mind up fella This is the problem with the media perception of Pompey's situation over the last 5 years or so. They quote absolute luddites like Redknapp saying things like that and the Few get it into their heads that the money must have been siphoned away somewhere, completely ignoring the fact that transfer fees aren't the only expense when it comes to players Take Johnson as an example, they paid £4m as a transfer fee and sold him for £18m (according to Soccerbase, although they didn't actually receive £18m cash, a big chunk of it was offset against money still owed for Peter Crouch). Sounds like a £14m profit. However, chuck in a signing-on fee (guess at £1m), agents fees (around the same) and £60k a week over the three years he was at the club, they're down to a £3m profit on that one player. As an alternative example, they bought Peter Crouch for £9m from Liverpool and sold him for the same amount to Spurs a year later. Signing-on fee, agents fees, etc probably came to another £2m. He was on £75k a week (), a cost of £3.75m over the course of a year, and then they had to pay him another £250k just to leave because Spurs wouldn't pay him anywhere near what Pompey were giving him. So while they "broke even" on the transfer fee, he actually cost them around £6m for a year. Bit disingenuous there Granty. What you say is right but if you're saying that their transfer fees paid their wages that means we had an additional £50m a year from SKY freed up to pay other fees and wages. When you think that we made huge profits on what we paid for not just Johnson but Defoe, Diarra, Muntari, Distin and others somethingh doesn't add up. Pompey didn't pay a penny to football creditors, the Premier League did. Southampton Football Club paid back every creditor in full. Interesting distinction Johnnykins. So "Pompey" didn't pay creditors because the parachute payments we were entitled to anyway were used to do it but "Southampton Football Club" did because Liebherr decided to do so. That was down to your good fortune in Liebherr buying you surely? If Pinnacle or some other chancers had bought you the creditors would very likely have had to make do with Xp in the £. The club had nothing to do with it. When are you going to realise that nothing you say has any credibility and anything you might post that has any connection to the truth is going to be disregarded? given all the previous crap you've come out with.. Why do you do it to yourself? What do you gain by making yourself look like an idiot on a messageboard full of people who already think you're an idiot? How much time of your life that you could have spent with your family have you wasted on here? You're the biggest loser I have ever come across Nice post. Is that you David? How's the house sales in Thailand going? Ironic you should post this one really, given that you were on here a couple of weeks ago boasting about how you were "trolling up a storm" on POL. Been back recently? In fact, the idiot's post above has made me think about why I post on here anymore. For those of you that didn't see the original, the freak had obviously googled my name and seen a birthday message in the local paper (thankfully it was someone else with the same name and not me) but the original post included this poor guy's wife and kids names. What kind of sick **** posts that on a football messageboard (and well done Granty or whatever mods changed it). It used to be a good laugh posting on here, the banter was really good. But over the past few seasons it's become nastier and nastier. Whatever I post, no-one seems to read the actual content of it (just look at the posts the other day when I pointed out we weren't £180m in debt and that huge chunks of it were down to previous owners saddling the club with their own debts) only to be told my post was moronic. So let's call it a day, shall we. For those of you registered on POL that PM me keep stopping by and saying hello and any others, do the same. As I've said before, you're top of the league on merit and whilst I hope you don't go up, if you do it will be because you've earnt it. I think the fact that none of you have EVER said that about any of Pompey's achievements since I first posted on here tels its own story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Pompey Voice @pompeyvoice Pompey are slowly becoming a self sufficient club, it's long, painful and totally **** but it's 100% the right thing #Pompey Are they? Their gates are going down faster than they are cutting costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Cheerio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 As I've said before, you're top of the league on merit and whilst I hope you don't go up, if you do it will be because you've earnt it. I think the fact that none of you have EVER said that about any of Pompey's achievements since I first posted on here tels its own story I think the fact you have never acknowledged some of your massive "gaffs" tells its own story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Interesting distinction Johnnykins. So "Pompey" didn't pay creditors because the parachute payments we were entitled to anyway were used to do it but "Southampton Football Club" did because Liebherr decided to do so. That was down to your good fortune in Liebherr buying you surely? If Pinnacle or some other chancers had bought you the creditors would very likely have had to make do with Xp in the £. The club had nothing to do with it. Indeed you were toyman, now explain the distinction between what you were 'entitled' to, and what the taxman, small businesses, and local charities are entitled to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 TBF, he's probably not alone in that. Afterall, the rivalry is part of our local footballing culture as well as theirs. Thing is, it has become impossible to feel any sympathy because right now, the shear scale of their financial problems and because of the hideous way in which they have avoided a punishment that truely fits the repeated attempts to gain some sort of competitive advantage compared to other clubs with similar revenue restrictions etc.... And quite simply their constant refusal to acknowledge they have 'gained' anything from this masterpiece of financial mismanagement. Footbal authorities seem clueless or spineless in dealing with the financial mess some clubs ahve gotten themselves into and if there is bitterness, it's fair to say part of that is down to the simple fact that when we were (rightly) punished for our own recent administration, the effects of the -10 were far greater despite a pitance of debt compared with their 120 mil + the recent unknown amounts - there is simply no consistency here, nor is there a scale of punishment that is appropriate - therefore the only one many of us see as truely just is if they dissapear up their own arseholes - If the FL had the balls and the will, I am sure a suitable punishment could be given that would allow survival, but would act as a far more appropriate warning/deterent to other clubs treading a similar line. -1 point per million owed at CVA min -10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Blah, blah, moan, whinge it's not our fault, it's all someone else's fault, blah, whinge, blah..... I think the fact that none of you have EVER said that about any of Pompey's achievements since I first posted on here tels its own story Personally I think anywhere from £120m to £170m worth of debt tells it's own storrie. Bye bye Corpse, see you in 20 years when you finally have something to cheer about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 1. I wouldn't be too sure about your players "affordable" wages FC. The stories going around from people at your own club is that you've got several of them on around £25K a week and Sharp was reported to hjave signed for at least £20K a week. 2. Still trotting out lies about Pompey's debt being all down to money spent on players and wages when it keeps being pointed out to you that huge chunkls of that debt were actually loaded onto the club by previous owners (£32m was what Fahim agreed to pay for the land around the ground to Gaydamak then loaded the debt onto the club, Chainrai's £17m "debenture" for money that was allegedly loaned to al Faraj, £5m to Fahim and on and on). Then, in your next breath you acknowledge that our owners have saddled us with debt and also agree that it could happen to you. Make your mind up fella Bit disingenuous there Granty. What you say is right but if you're saying that their transfer fees paid their wages that means we had an additional £50m a year from SKY freed up to pay other fees and wages. When you think that we made huge profits on what we paid for not just Johnson but Defoe, Diarra, Muntari, Distin and others somethingh doesn't add up. Interesting distinction Johnnykins. So "Pompey" didn't pay creditors because the parachute payments we were entitled to anyway were used to do it but "Southampton Football Club" did because Liebherr decided to do so. That was down to your good fortune in Liebherr buying you surely? If Pinnacle or some other chancers had bought you the creditors would very likely have had to make do with Xp in the £. The club had nothing to do with it. Nice post. Is that you David? How's the house sales in Thailand going? Ironic you should post this one really, given that you were on here a couple of weeks ago boasting about how you were "trolling up a storm" on POL. Been back recently? In fact, the idiot's post above has made me think about why I post on here anymore. For those of you that didn't see the original, the freak had obviously googled my name and seen a birthday message in the local paper (thankfully it was someone else with the same name and not me) but the original post included this poor guy's wife and kids names. What kind of sick **** posts that on a football messageboard (and well done Granty or whatever mods changed it). It used to be a good laugh posting on here, the banter was really good. But over the past few seasons it's become nastier and nastier. Whatever I post, no-one seems to read the actual content of it (just look at the posts the other day when I pointed out we weren't £180m in debt and that huge chunks of it were down to previous owners saddling the club with their own debts) only to be told my post was moronic. So let's call it a day, shall we. For those of you registered on POL that PM me keep stopping by and saying hello and any others, do the same. As I've said before, you're top of the league on merit and whilst I hope you don't go up, if you do it will be because you've earnt it. I think the fact that none of you have EVER said that about any of Pompey's achievements since I first posted on here tels its own story Lol goodbye, I'm missing you already. You were always going to disappear when the s### really hit the fan. When things were rosy you were on here all the time bigging your club up. if people want to PM you then good for them, why they want to god knows. Your dramatic look at me 'Right i'm going now, post is as convincing as Drogbas fall and peek a boo the other night. lol. If you really meant it you would just disappear and not post, like most who dont want to have a look at me departure. I'm sure you will get a few from here asking you to please reconsider, your ego will be massaged and you will feel like Avram when he went to see his friends, for me I was happy to read your posts but if its goodbye, so long fair well, Auf wiedersehen, good bye You wont be able to keep away, no doubt you will come back under another name, how about Tiny Tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 1. I wouldn't be too sure about your players "affordable" wages FC. The stories going around from people at your own club is that you've got several of them on around £25K a week and Sharp was reported to hjave signed for at least £20K a week. 2. Still trotting out lies about Pompey's debt being all down to money spent on players and wages when it keeps being pointed out to you that huge chunkls of that debt were actually loaded onto the club by previous owners (£32m was what Fahim agreed to pay for the land around the ground to Gaydamak then loaded the debt onto the club, Chainrai's £17m "debenture" for money that was allegedly loaned to al Faraj, £5m to Fahim and on and on). Then, in your next breath you acknowledge that our owners have saddled us with debt and also agree that it could happen to you. Make your mind up fella Bit disingenuous there Granty. What you say is right but if you're saying that their transfer fees paid their wages that means we had an additional £50m a year from SKY freed up to pay other fees and wages. When you think that we made huge profits on what we paid for not just Johnson but Defoe, Diarra, Muntari, Distin and others somethingh doesn't add up. Interesting distinction Johnnykins. So "Pompey" didn't pay creditors because the parachute payments we were entitled to anyway were used to do it but "Southampton Football Club" did because Liebherr decided to do so. That was down to your good fortune in Liebherr buying you surely? If Pinnacle or some other chancers had bought you the creditors would very likely have had to make do with Xp in the £. The club had nothing to do with it. Nice post. Is that you David? How's the house sales in Thailand going? Ironic you should post this one really, given that you were on here a couple of weeks ago boasting about how you were "trolling up a storm" on POL. Been back recently? In fact, the idiot's post above has made me think about why I post on here anymore. For those of you that didn't see the original, the freak had obviously googled my name and seen a birthday message in the local paper (thankfully it was someone else with the same name and not me) but the original post included this poor guy's wife and kids names. What kind of sick **** posts that on a football messageboard (and well done Granty or whatever mods changed it). It used to be a good laugh posting on here, the banter was really good. But over the past few seasons it's become nastier and nastier. Whatever I post, no-one seems to read the actual content of it (just look at the posts the other day when I pointed out we weren't £180m in debt and that huge chunks of it were down to previous owners saddling the club with their own debts) only to be told my post was moronic. So let's call it a day, shall we. For those of you registered on POL that PM me keep stopping by and saying hello and any others, do the same. As I've said before, you're top of the league on merit and whilst I hope you don't go up, if you do it will be because you've earnt it. I think the fact that none of you have EVER said that about any of Pompey's achievements since I first posted on here tels its own story Rubbish. I know what one of our best players earn and it is nowhere near the rubbish you are spouting. How do I know? His father was moaning last week about the stupid estimates of the earnings, then quoted how much. It is a very reasonable figure. Bonuses also depend on team position and reduce drastically the lower the position in the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 1. I wouldn't be too sure about your players "affordable" wages FC. The stories going around from people at your own club is that you've got several of them on around £25K a week and Sharp was reported to hjave signed for at least £20K a week. 2. Still trotting out lies about Pompey's debt being all down to money spent on players and wages when it keeps being pointed out to you that huge chunkls of that debt were actually loaded onto the club by previous owners (£32m was what Fahim agreed to pay for the land around the ground to Gaydamak then loaded the debt onto the club, Chainrai's £17m "debenture" for money that was allegedly loaned to al Faraj, £5m to Fahim and on and on). Then, in your next breath you acknowledge that our owners have saddled us with debt and also agree that it could happen to you. Make your mind up fella Bit disingenuous there Granty. What you say is right but if you're saying that their transfer fees paid their wages that means we had an additional £50m a year from SKY freed up to pay other fees and wages. When you think that we made huge profits on what we paid for not just Johnson but Defoe, Diarra, Muntari, Distin and others somethingh doesn't add up. Interesting distinction Johnnykins. So "Pompey" didn't pay creditors because the parachute payments we were entitled to anyway were used to do it but "Southampton Football Club" did because Liebherr decided to do so. That was down to your good fortune in Liebherr buying you surely? If Pinnacle or some other chancers had bought you the creditors would very likely have had to make do with Xp in the £. The club had nothing to do with it. Nice post. Is that you David? How's the house sales in Thailand going? Ironic you should post this one really, given that you were on here a couple of weeks ago boasting about how you were "trolling up a storm" on POL. Been back recently? In fact, the idiot's post above has made me think about why I post on here anymore. For those of you that didn't see the original, the freak had obviously googled my name and seen a birthday message in the local paper (thankfully it was someone else with the same name and not me) but the original post included this poor guy's wife and kids names. What kind of sick **** posts that on a football messageboard (and well done Granty or whatever mods changed it). It used to be a good laugh posting on here, the banter was really good. But over the past few seasons it's become nastier and nastier. Whatever I post, no-one seems to read the actual content of it (just look at the posts the other day when I pointed out we weren't £180m in debt and that huge chunks of it were down to previous owners saddling the club with their own debts) only to be told my post was moronic. So let's call it a day, shall we. For those of you registered on POL that PM me keep stopping by and saying hello and any others, do the same. As I've said before, you're top of the league on merit and whilst I hope you don't go up, if you do it will be because you've earnt it. I think the fact that none of you have EVER said that about any of Pompey's achievements since I first posted on here tels its own story Fu ck off and die you skate cu nt. I believe I speak for the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 As I've said before, you're top of the league on merit and whilst I hope you don't go up, if you do it will be because you've earnt it. I think the fact that none of you have EVER said that about any of Pompey's achievements since I first posted on here tels its own story Jeez what rubbish, I could quote absolutely loads of people on here saying that your current position has been achieved on merit. I for one would openly state that you totally deserve your recent achievements, well done to all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Bit disingenuous there Granty. What you say is right but if you're saying that their transfer fees paid their wages that means we had an additional £50m a year from SKY freed up to pay other fees and wages. When you think that we made huge profits on what we paid for not just Johnson but Defoe, Diarra, Muntari, Distin and others somethingh doesn't add up. While you made a tidy profit on a handful of players, the number of players who you made a huge loss on far outweighs it. Dave Nugent, signed for £6m in July 2007, given away for nothing four years later. £40k a week wages for three years of that contract (out on loan for most of one season, although I can't imagine Burnley were paying all of his wages) is another £6m. Signing-on fees, a "loyalty" payment due for completing the duration of the contract, image rights (listed on CVA as £350k) and agents fees take that to an overall cost of at least £13m. John Utaka, signed for £7m, also in July 2007, apparently sold for €500k to Montpellier three and a half years later, on an eye-watering £80k a week. £14m in wages, £140k owed in image rights on the CVA document plus however much had already been paid on that basis beforehand. A £22m+ cost. Michael Brown, signed on a free in August 2009, released on a free in 2011. Reported wages of £35k a week, had an auto-renew clause in his contract so he was dropped just before that kicked in. £3.6m + fees. Tal Ben-Haim, also on a free in September 2009, still at the club draining £37k a week. Half a year on loan at West Ham. £5m + fees and rising. Add many more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 zzzzzzzzzzzz In fact, the idiot's post above has made me think about why I post on here anymore. ......It used to be a good laugh posting on here, the banter was really good. ......... Whatever I post, no-one seems to read the actual content of it .........So let's call it a day, shall we. For those of you registered on POL that PM me keep stopping by and saying hello and any others, do the same. ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 (edited) Nice post. Is that you David? How's the house sales in Thailand going? Ironic you should post this one really, given that you were on here a couple of weeks ago boasting about how you were "trolling up a storm" on POL. Been back recently? In fact, the idiot's post above has made me think about why I post on here anymore. For those of you that didn't see the original, the freak had obviously googled my name and seen a birthday message in the local paper (thankfully it was someone else with the same name and not me) but the original post included this poor guy's wife and kids names. What kind of sick **** posts that on a football messageboard (and well done Granty or whatever mods changed it). It used to be a good laugh posting on here, the banter was really good. But over the past few seasons it's become nastier and nastier. Whatever I post, no-one seems to read the actual content of it (just look at the posts the other day when I pointed out we weren't £180m in debt and that huge chunks of it were down to previous owners saddling the club with their own debts) only to be told my post was moronic. So let's call it a day, shall we. For those of you registered on POL that PM me keep stopping by and saying hello and any others, do the same. As I've said before, you're top of the league on merit and whilst I hope you don't go up, if you do it will be because you've earnt it. I think the fact that none of you have EVER said that about any of Pompey's achievements since I first posted on here tels its own story Awww corpy whadda matter? Do a poopey in your panties? LOL. Thanks for confirming you have absolutely no clue who i am, and you are who I think you are Also glad to see you have finally come to your senses. The irony is I have 4 post or something on POL...I certainly didn't say i was "trolling up a storm", as I hadn't even posted on there up to that point, all of my posts came after you decided to post my post from here on there. Whereas you have 893 posts here, on a saints website, as Corporate Ho and plenty others under other usernames no doubt. You've been trolling on here for years. The only reason I registered on POL was to see you if you acted as deluded on there as you do on here. Even if that isn't you in the news, the principles are the same. Just get a life You say noone bothers to read the content of your posts, why would they? You posted so much crap on here nothing you say is ever going to have any credibility Thanks again for keeping us all entertained you f*cking idiot and good riddance Edited 16 March, 2012 by COMEONYOUREDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 1. I wouldn't be too sure about your players "affordable" wages FC. The stories going around from people at your own club is that you've got several of them on around £25K a week and Sharp was reported to hjave signed for at least £20K a week. 2. Still trotting out lies about Pompey's debt being all down to money spent on players and wages when it keeps being pointed out to you that huge chunkls of that debt were actually loaded onto the club by previous owners (£32m was what Fahim agreed to pay for the land around the ground to Gaydamak then loaded the debt onto the club, Chainrai's £17m "debenture" for money that was allegedly loaned to al Faraj, £5m to Fahim and on and on). Then, in your next breath you acknowledge that our owners have saddled us with debt and also agree that it could happen to you. Make your mind up fella Bit disingenuous there Granty. What you say is right but if you're saying that their transfer fees paid their wages that means we had an additional £50m a year from SKY freed up to pay other fees and wages. When you think that we made huge profits on what we paid for not just Johnson but Defoe, Diarra, Muntari, Distin and others somethingh doesn't add up. Interesting distinction Johnnykins. So "Pompey" didn't pay creditors because the parachute payments we were entitled to anyway were used to do it but "Southampton Football Club" did because Liebherr decided to do so. That was down to your good fortune in Liebherr buying you surely? If Pinnacle or some other chancers had bought you the creditors would very likely have had to make do with Xp in the £. The club had nothing to do with it. Nice post. Is that you David? How's the house sales in Thailand going? Ironic you should post this one really, given that you were on here a couple of weeks ago boasting about how you were "trolling up a storm" on POL. Been back recently? In fact, the idiot's post above has made me think about why I post on here anymore. For those of you that didn't see the original, the freak had obviously googled my name and seen a birthday message in the local paper (thankfully it was someone else with the same name and not me) but the original post included this poor guy's wife and kids names. What kind of sick **** posts that on a football messageboard (and well done Granty or whatever mods changed it). It used to be a good laugh posting on here, the banter was really good. But over the past few seasons it's become nastier and nastier. Whatever I post, no-one seems to read the actual content of it (just look at the posts the other day when I pointed out we weren't £180m in debt and that huge chunks of it were down to previous owners saddling the club with their own debts) only to be told my post was moronic. So let's call it a day, shall we. For those of you registered on POL that PM me keep stopping by and saying hello and any others, do the same. As I've said before, you're top of the league on merit and whilst I hope you don't go up, if you do it will be because you've earnt it. I think the fact that none of you have EVER said that about any of Pompey's achievements since I first posted on here tels its own story Meltdown complete...bye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Jeez what rubbish, I could quote absolutely loads of people on here saying that your current position has been achieved on merit. I for one would openly state that you totally deserve your recent achievements, well done to all involved. Well said They deserve everything they get in the coming months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 @solentsport: West Ham sign Pompey's Henderson: West Ham sign Portsmouth keeper Stephen Henderson on loan, with a view to a pe... http://t.co/aWKzMqvv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Another troll bites the dust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Steve (Grant) Not you corpy, calm down. Can you tell us the story of how corpy pretended to post you a fiver again? Summed him up nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Corpy Does this mean I can take the credit for finally pushing you over the edge into a complete breakdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 It used to be a good laugh posting on here, the banter was really good. But over the past few seasons it's become nastier and nastier. Whatever I post, no-one seems to read the actual content of it (just look at the posts the other day when I pointed out we weren't £180m in debt and that huge chunks of it were down to previous owners saddling the club with their own debts) only to be told my post was moronic. So let's call it a day, shall we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 FWIW, I think it would be a shame if Corp stopped posting here. People may not agree with him, and maybe he has been wrong about things (who hasn't?), but I think he certainly adds something. Certainly more than people taking the **** out of his job (why FFS) or grown men called Pompey 'Poopey'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 if you'll miss him that much you can register on POL, the drivel continues on there. I'm sure you will be welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 Meltdown complete...bye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 FWIW, I think it would be a shame if Corp stopped posting here. People may not agree with him, and maybe he has been wrong about things (who hasn't?), but I think he certainly adds something. Certainly more than people taking the **** out of his job (why FFS) or grown men called Pompey 'Poopey'. He adds a comedy value for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 March, 2012 Share Posted 16 March, 2012 FWIW, I think it would be a shame if Corp stopped posting here. People may not agree with him, and maybe he has been wrong about things (who hasn't?), but I think he certainly adds something. Certainly more than people taking the **** out of his job (why FFS) or grown men called Pompey 'Poopey'.if you like his smarm , constant refusal to accept their cheating and exaggeration he is a lovely bloke, of course we will miss his inside track from hos friends at the club Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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