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First time I have heard that name mentioned.[/TD]

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Stuart who....?

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I think a lot of the Pompey Knocking that has gone on over the last couple of weeks on talkspoort etc is mis-placed.How can you legistlate for an owner being knicked due to iffy financial deals?? Which inturn effects the companies he owns??.Surely nearly every other club in the land would be in the same boat with the same chain of events.No one is to blame for whats gone on this time around in my view other than the CSI guys[/TD]

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A very valid point. My only addition to that would be where was the safety net? Where was the contingency plan if the same thing happened again? Unfortunately, we didn't have one and now we find ourselves in this mess again. [/TD]

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Makes me laugh some of these supporters. You guys at the News were hammered for printing Pompey hadn't paid the HMRC! Yet they keep banging on about wanting the truth. Now its your fault the club is in administration. Wish some people would get a grip. [/TD]

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I've heard from a good source that Pearce is the subject of serious interest from West Ham, have you heard anything about this ?

 

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I have heard there are a queue of clubs waiting to take Pearce.[/TD]

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I googled Stuart Marshall too. He's a dancer.

 

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Maybe he can do half-time dances a bit like the Pompey Belles used to do... [/TD]

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I googled Stuart Marshall too. He's a dancer.

 

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I was going to follow it up with a comment about he would be good at being on his toes like previous owners. But I thought that might be libellous ;)

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Ok folks - I've outstayed my welcome again by 20 minutes. Thanks for joining me and even if you were having a pop at me or us as a paper, I don't mind. i can handle it....what a hero. Until next time. [/TD]

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Stuart who....?

I think he meant Stuart Hall. There gonna stick all they players in comical rubber costumes.

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Huseklepp talks the talk....but he don't walk.

 

The big fans’ favourite also promised the Fratton faithful he is aiming to halt local rivals Southampton’s bid to make the Premier League, having swapped a relegation dogfight for a promotion chase.

 

He was given a cameo appearance from the bench against Nottingham Forest on Saturday.

 

The Norwegian international failed to score on his debut.

 

But he is hoping he can still put a smile on the faces of Pompey fans over the rest of the season.

 

‘I have a new challenge and I have to focus on that but I can still help Portsmouth against teams at the bottom.

 

‘And I really hope to push Southampton out of second place' commented the lanky overpriced whale-murdering mercenary, shortly after failing miserably to either defeat Forest to help pompey, or to push Saints out of 2nd.

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Not sure. The bit I am unsure of is who decided the size of the pot that going into paying the CVA. If its just what the administrator can get away with persuading the creditors to accept then I assume there is little difference between paying the football creditors 100% and other creditors 20% at the CVA compared to paying all creditors 20% at the CVA and then the new buyer paying the remaining 80% of the football creditors. In both cases the money needing to go out to pay them all will be the same?

The original judgment can be found here :-

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2004/1020.html

Point 17 says :-

Neither section precludes payment of non-preferential creditors by third parties ahead of preferential creditors out of their own free money, and accordingly there can be no objection to payment by the Buyer of the Priority Debts in full. It does not matter that the non-preferential debts are paid (as they are paid in this case) to discharge the debts of the company and accordingly "on behalf of" or "at the instance of" or "for the benefit of" the company by a third party if they are paid out of his free money and at his own cost and not at the cost of the company. It would of course be different if the company put the third party in funds to do so. It would be different if the Sale Agreement were a sham or device adopted to disguise payments by the company to non-preferential creditors ahead of preferential creditors e.g. by agreeing an artificially low purchase price payable to the company for its undertaking in return for the assumption by the purchaser of an obligation to pay non-preferential creditors.

 

IMO the Football Creditor Rule has become a "sham or device adopted to disguise payments by the company to non-preferential creditors ahead of preferential creditors."

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The way I read it, HRMC are trying to get the football creditors rule changed so that ALL debts are EQUAL!

 

This means the FL can still impose their 'all football debts must be paid in full rule' to receive the golden ticket, but by implication this will mean that ALL debts must also be paid in full as their will be no preferred creditor status.

 

So, a CVA would have to state all debts 100% paid. Which would render administration as quite literally a pointless exercise.

I have Radical soloution to the Football Creditors Rule - How about the FL set up Debtors League, one where teams that default on football debts are placed and they play each other. Any prize money from competitions is controlled by the FL and only when they have cleared all debts are they allowed back into society! And then intoat best L2 additionally no trophies would be awarded for winning the Debtors League, this would prevent adding to your fraudulently aquired a glorious history!

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All this quietness has to be good news.

 

TB seems to be doing a proper administrators job and there is still no a sniff of a proper buyer, only talks of an unlikely fans buyout.

 

Selling thier youth (magri), recieving forwarded PPs and loaning out first teamers just to see them through till the end of the season means they look less sellable with everyday that passes. They don't have a ground to sell (brighton), no players that will make them much money in the tranfer window and a huge wage bill. If no buyer comes in very soon they are doomed.

 

I think liquidation would be good for them, otherwise they will never be able to clear their debts and will have to take drastic measures ensuring the shame of relgation after relegation. No fan wants to see that happen to their team. They will probably end up in the conference still with a large debt to pay and going no where! Liquidation means clean slate and with a fan base such as theirs, they can immediately look forward to years of promotion battles.

 

Lets hope they don't liquidate ;)

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The answer to the creditors rule is simple if teams try and ditch their debts by going into admin. Withdraw the registrations of players who are not paid for until a new agreement is contracted to pay off the original transfer fee post administration. Allow no new players to be signed until that happens.

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Talk of starting in the conference is crazy, Wimbledon didn't get that and contributed far more (and on an honest basis) to the premier league.

 

AFC Wimbledon technically (although many may feel otherwise) aren't a club replacing one gone out of existence, they are a protest club (with MK Dons still existing) so had to start lower down the leagues. Any new Pompey team would be a replacement and so will likely be treated differently as talks between Pompey Trust and the Conference have suggested and like they also did when some Saints fans looked into this eventually if required for Southampton in 2009.

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With their fanbase they'll find their natural level. It'll take many years, but then they'd get back to league football, and end up L1 or L2 on average, where they should be. Talk of starting in the conference is crazy, Wimbledon didn't get that and contributed far more (and on an honest basis) to the premier league.

 

Indeed. AFC Wimbledon who the FA believed were 'not in the wider interests of football' helped clubs in the Combined Counties League stay afloat, simply because of the huge numbers they took to away games. I went to see them play Dorchester and they could have had a whole stand at the Avenue to themselves if segregation was in force, and believe me, it's a fairly big stadium for that level.

 

If an AFC Portsmouth were set up they should begin in the Sydenhams Wessex League, local derby with Moneyfields etc.

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Which made me think of the troll.

 

Which then made me think of one of his previous disappearances "due to Gardening leave"

 

Which then made me think of his current Job

 

Which then made me think

 

WTF did he do to Barbie?

 

Yes, sorry Dubya but it's very, very busy at the moment getting everything sorted for next Xmas. You know, looking at budgets and that kind of thing. You'd know about that wouldn't you, being the expert on the subject? Remind me, what was CSI's budget again? When was Antonov seen driving that McLaren F1 that he hasn't got in Sandbanks where he doesn't own a house when he'd dropped his interest in Pompey and was going to buy Bournemouth? Jeez, Dubya, I've got to hand it to you, you're one clued up fella. Never been known to get anything wrong have you? Or should that be never known to get anything right?*

 

Talking about Barbie, are you referring to your much younger Polish girlfriend again?

 

Well done for going a whole post without mentioning golf though.

 

Quick question for the experts/ investigative geniuses on here (you can sit this one out then Dubya) - what's going to happen to Pompey? Are we "toast" or will someone buy us? You're the experts so I assume you know the answer. After all, like Dubya, none of you has ever been wrong on the subject so far, have you?

 

*I had to try desperately hard not to type PMSL at this point

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Which made me think of the troll.

 

Which then made me think of one of his previous disappearances "due to Gardening leave"

 

Which then made me think of his current Job

 

Which then made me think

 

WTF did he do to Barbie?

 

There you go,

 

all you have to do is poke and he comes out from under the bridge

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Yes, sorry Dubya but it's very, very busy at the moment getting everything sorted for next Xmas. You know, looking at budgets and that kind of thing. You'd know about that wouldn't you, being the expert on the subject? Remind me, what was CSI's budget again? When was Antonov seen driving that McLaren F1 that he hasn't got in Sandbanks where he doesn't own a house when he'd dropped his interest in Pompey and was going to buy Bournemouth? Jeez, Dubya, I've got to hand it to you, you're one clued up fella. Never been known to get anything wrong have you? Or should that be never known to get anything right?*

 

Talking about Barbie, are you referring to your much younger Polish girlfriend again?

 

Well done for going a whole post without mentioning golf though.

 

Quick question for the experts/ investigative geniuses on here (you can sit this one out then Dubya) - what's going to happen to Pompey? Are we "toast" or will someone buy us? You're the experts so I assume you know the answer. After all, like Dubya, none of you has ever been wrong on the subject so far, have you?

 

*I had to try desperately hard not to type PMSL at this point

But you did type it. Just can`t stop yourself can you??

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Yes, sorry Dubya but it's very, very busy at the moment getting everything sorted for next Xmas. You know, looking at budgets and that kind of thing. You'd know about that wouldn't you, being the expert on the subject? Remind me, what was CSI's budget again? When was Antonov seen driving that McLaren F1 that he hasn't got in Sandbanks where he doesn't own a house when he'd dropped his interest in Pompey and was going to buy Bournemouth? Jeez, Dubya, I've got to hand it to you, you're one clued up fella. Never been known to get anything wrong have you? Or should that be never known to get anything right?*

 

Talking about Barbie, are you referring to your much younger Polish girlfriend again?

 

Well done for going a whole post without mentioning golf though.

 

Quick question for the experts/ investigative geniuses on here (you can sit this one out then Dubya) - what's going to happen to Pompey? Are we "toast" or will someone buy us? You're the experts so I assume you know the answer. After all, like Dubya, none of you has ever been wrong on the subject so far, have you?

 

*I had to try desperately hard not to type PMSL at this point

 

Shalalalalalalala...

Shalalalalalalala...

Shalalalalalalala

Who the f*ck is laughing now!

 

No credible buyers out there, pack the park has advertised your club as having poor support - 14.5k home support against Leeds in the hour of need - PMSL

 

Looks like the fan on the board trust will take over, funded in part by that guitar player... starting over in the Wessex with Moneyfields as your spiritual home...

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Yes, sorry Dubya but it's very, very busy at the moment getting everything sorted for next Xmas. You know, looking at budgets and that kind of thing. You'd know about that wouldn't you, being the expert on the subject? Remind me, what was CSI's budget again? When was Antonov seen driving that McLaren F1 that he hasn't got in Sandbanks where he doesn't own a house when he'd dropped his interest in Pompey and was going to buy Bournemouth? Jeez, Dubya, I've got to hand it to you, you're one clued up fella. Never been known to get anything wrong have you? Or should that be never known to get anything right?*

 

Talking about Barbie, are you referring to your much younger Polish girlfriend again?

 

Well done for going a whole post without mentioning golf though.

 

Quick question for the experts/ investigative geniuses on here (you can sit this one out then Dubya) - what's going to happen to Pompey? Are we "toast" or will someone buy us? You're the experts so I assume you know the answer. After all, like Dubya, none of you has ever been wrong on the subject so far, have you?

 

*I had to try desperately hard not to type PMSL at this point

 

I would suggest you are toast. Even a doll sold by the troll could work that one out. PMSL.

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yes, sorry dubya but it's very, very busy at the moment getting everything sorted for next xmas. You know, looking at budgets and that kind of thing. You'd know about that wouldn't you, being the expert on the subject? Remind me, what was csi's budget again? When was antonov seen driving that mclaren f1 that he hasn't got in sandbanks where he doesn't own a house when he'd dropped his interest in pompey and was going to buy bournemouth? Jeez, dubya, i've got to hand it to you, you're one clued up fella. Never been known to get anything wrong have you? Or should that be never known to get anything right?*

 

talking about barbie, are you referring to your much younger polish girlfriend again?

 

Well done for going a whole post without mentioning golf though.

 

Quick question for the experts/ investigative geniuses on here (you can sit this one out then dubya) - what's going to happen to pompey? Are we "toast" or will someone buy us? You're the experts so i assume you know the answer. After all, like dubya, none of you has ever been wrong on the subject so far, have you?

 

*i had to try desperately hard not to type pmsl at this point

 

yat

lol

rofl

psml

lmfao

hth

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yes, sorry dubya but it's very, very busy at the moment getting everything sorted for next xmas. You know, looking at budgets and that kind of thing. You'd know about that wouldn't you, being the expert on the subject? Remind me, what was csi's budget again? When was antonov seen driving that mclaren f1 that he hasn't got in sandbanks where he doesn't own a house when he'd dropped his interest in pompey and was going to buy bournemouth? Jeez, dubya, i've got to hand it to you, you're one clued up fella. Never been known to get anything wrong have you? Or should that be never known to get anything right?*

 

talking about barbie, are you referring to your much younger polish girlfriend again?

 

Well done for going a whole post without mentioning golf though.

 

Quick question for the experts/ investigative geniuses on here (you can sit this one out then dubya) - what's going to happen to pompey? Are we "toast" or will someone buy us? You're the experts so i assume you know the answer. After all, like dubya, none of you has ever been wrong on the subject so far, have you?

 

*i had to try desperately hard not to type pmsl at this point

 

roflcotr :)

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what's going to happen to Pompey? Are we "toast" or will someone buy us? You're the experts so I assume you know the answer.

 

I heard from my contact, whom I see socially every 2 weeks or so, that Maradona is going to ride into the Peoples Republic of Hayling Island on a unicorn and save the day. First signing to be Riquelme.

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Yes, sorry Dubya but it's very, very busy at the moment getting everything sorted for next Xmas. You know, looking at budgets and that kind of thing. You'd know about that wouldn't you, being the expert on the subject? Remind me, what was CSI's budget again? When was Antonov seen driving that McLaren F1 that he hasn't got in Sandbanks where he doesn't own a house when he'd dropped his interest in Pompey and was going to buy Bournemouth? Jeez, Dubya, I've got to hand it to you, you're one clued up fella. Never been known to get anything wrong have you? Or should that be never known to get anything right?*

 

Talking about Barbie, are you referring to your much younger Polish girlfriend again?

 

Well done for going a whole post without mentioning golf though.

 

Quick question for the experts/ investigative geniuses on here (you can sit this one out then Dubya) - what's going to happen to Pompey? Are we "toast" or will someone buy us? You're the experts so I assume you know the answer. After all, like Dubya, none of you has ever been wrong on the subject so far, have you?

 

*I had to try desperately hard not to type PMSL at this point

 

So what happened to the "first bid" you assured us had gone in several weeks ago? Pray tell us, do.

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Dear corperate ho,

please continue to talk b*****ks and post in the future i have a bet with a friend that we will reach 2000 pages. The clock is ticking and only weeks to go before cheats FC are no more. Every time you put "pen to paper" lots and lots of pages turn over.

 

Yours truly,

Truckasaurus X

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Corp Ho ho ho..........even TB has admitted you are losing up to 8 million pounds a season, are you 'insolvent'? The question you have still refused to answer, is what would attract a serious buyer to your scummy club! No training ground, you don't own the stadium, you don't own the surrounding areas, so what is the attraction?

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Corp Ho ho ho..........even TB has admitted you are losing up to 8 million pounds a season, are you 'insolvent'? The question you have still refused to answer, is what would attract a serious buyer to your scummy club! No traing ground, you don't own the stadium, you don't own the surrounding areas, so what is the attraction? The attraction is the massive fan ba.........er umm, fantastic .....um, the potential to be ....a er um,beautiful people....oh no sorry...biggest club on the south coa....oh even Brighton....... mmm!! , fantastic stadi..... oh no it's not is it,that's it a lovely city,Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha bestest fans,thats it poopey have the best fans,most passionate etc etc etc etc.What the ***** does that actually mean.

The only thing they can cling onto doesn't acually mean anything. I'm sure Bashley have some Passionate fans just not many of them (like portsmuff)

 

God bless HMRC

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Or should that be never known to get anything right?*

 

"Gaydamak's money is his own, nothing to do with his dad..."

 

"Maradona to be DOF, bringing in Riquelme..."

 

"Sulaiman Al Fahim - it wouldn't make any sense him buying the club if he didn't have serious money..."

 

"We are NOT going into administration..." (prior to the first one)

 

"Al-Faraj - take us to a new level..."

 

"CSI - they are reputable bankers..."

 

PMSL

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"Gaydamak's money is his own, nothing to do with his dad..."

 

"Maradona to be DOF, bringing in Riquelme..."

 

"Sulaiman Al Fahim - it wouldn't make any sense him buying the club if he didn't have serious money..."

 

"We are NOT going into administration..." (prior to the first one)

 

"Al-Faraj - take us to a new level..."

 

"CSI - they are reputable bankers..."

 

PMSL

 

Hmmm, Ho is obviously rubbing off. Must be all those Barbie dolls...

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haha - silly Phil got accused by Ho of getting stuff wrong!

 

 

A little bit like Avram calling you a pervert....or

 

Lampitt laughing at your cashflow forecast.

Harry criticising your handwriting and honesty.

Cotterill saying you need to accept reality.

Al Fahim asking you for a choc ice and telling you your shirt is too small.

Appy asking what happened to your eyebrows.

Cala saying your ideas are fanciful.

Lawrence and Kitson shouting 'greedy' at you.

Storrie accusing you of reckless spending.

Gaydamak calling you a warmonger.

Antonov questioning your ethics.

Al Faraj suggesting you up your public profile.

Ben Haim saying you should give value for money.

Andronikou questioning your conflict of interests.

TCWTB saying you look ridiculous.

 

 

Yes you did read it correctly, Ho accused someone of getting stuff wrong.:o

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blue bob

Wednesday, February 29, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Well said Eric, I reckon that even Nigel Adkins would come under the '' Pompey Spell '' if he came to a few of our games, he would also find out what a talented manager is treated like by the best fans in the country.

 

What the **** are these lot on????????? Pompey Spell??? Pompey doom and gloom!!!!

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