trousers Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Any one see Rod Little's piece about 'Cheating Pompey' in the Sunday Times today On the reverse Adam Rant in the Footie Echo reckons Saints fans should wind their collective necks in re Pompey's admin Dear Adam, We will wind our necks in when Portsmouth Football Club stop cheating. Regards, Trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 It's just soooooo easy getting the simpletons to bite on twitter. I'm old enough to know better but it's so much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 It's just soooooo easy getting the simpletons to bite on twitter. Matt Slater being the main one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Out of interest I think its Everton who have been up for sale for a while now and just cant find a buyer, does anyone know what the asking price for them is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvaughanwilliams Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/pompey_could_have_more_points_deducted_1_3539161 13 people dont like the truth trueblue1 Sunday, February 19, 2012 at 03:20 PM fold the club up nd start gin word on the rel street not the lap top world is most people have had enough , time for what fans are left now the jcl have gone , is to start sing what we think bout the footgball league NO ONE LIKE US WE DONT CARE WE PORTSMOUTH Nice to see Portsmouth's intelligentsia out in force. Do you win a prize if you can work out what it means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Pretty fed up of hearing the skates crying about the FL and the FAPPT. They all need to take a good look at this statement by Birch. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/pompey_could_have_more_points_deducted_1_3539161 Asked about the effectiveness of the Football League’s test for owners he said: ‘The Football League have a fit and proper test which has to be run on a series of objective measures rather than subjective measures because if they turn people down just on the subjective basis then they are going to be open to attack and trying to defend those claims is obviously going to be costly, that will then take funds away from clubs from the central distribution so it’s a bit of a difficult circle. ‘If they haven’t got a criminal record or they haven’t had any insolvencies, these are factual objective issues that people can look at and anything else is just subjective." This where the FL's responsibilities end. Beyond that it is up to the existing owners to act responsible and sell to the write person. I guess things unravel when you get a ****ish owner who then sells to an even bigger **** and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Matt Slater being the main one Oh he bit alright. Didn't like it that we knew more than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvaughanwilliams Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Pretty fed up of hearing the skates crying about the FL and the FAPPT. They all need to take a good look at this statement by Birch. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/pompey_could_have_more_points_deducted_1_3539161 Asked about the effectiveness of the Football League’s test for owners he said: ‘The Football League have a fit and proper test which has to be run on a series of objective measures rather than subjective measures because if they turn people down just on the subjective basis then they are going to be open to attack and trying to defend those claims is obviously going to be costly, that will then take funds away from clubs from the central distribution so it’s a bit of a difficult circle. ‘If they haven’t got a criminal record or they haven’t had any insolvencies, these are factual objective issues that people can look at and anything else is just subjective." This where the FL's responsibilities end. Beyond that it is up to the existing owners to act responsible and sell to the write person. I guess things unravel when you get a ****ish owner who then sells to an even bigger **** and so on. Totally agree. The way some of them talk, you'd think that the FA were their accountants and auditors, as well as assessing their owner's ability to perpetually fund a loss making company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Pretty fed up of hearing the skates crying about the FL and the FAPPT. They all need to take a good look at this statement by Birch. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/pompey_could_have_more_points_deducted_1_3539161 Asked about the effectiveness of the Football League’s test for owners he said: ‘The Football League have a fit and proper test which has to be run on a series of objective measures rather than subjective measures because if they turn people down just on the subjective basis then they are going to be open to attack and trying to defend those claims is obviously going to be costly, that will then take funds away from clubs from the central distribution so it’s a bit of a difficult circle. ‘If they haven’t got a criminal record or they haven’t had any insolvencies, these are factual objective issues that people can look at and anything else is just subjective." This where the FL's responsibilities end. Beyond that it is up to the existing owners to act responsible and sell to the write person. I guess things unravel when you get a ****ish owner who then sells to an even bigger **** and so on. What gets me is there is that text in the article pointing out why the fault lies with the people selling the club and not the FAPPT and they still add comments such as: the Football Association has to shoulder some of the blame for the mess PFC find themselves in. Firstly they obviously do not know the difference between the FA and the FL and secondly the only fault is to be taken in by the promises of someone that also fooled a lot of other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 TB either gets a buyer PDQ, ruthlessly cuts expenditure to make income exceed expenditure PDQ or he works out in ten minutes on the back of a small envelope that there is nothing he can do but liquidate PDQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Matt Slater being the main one What's his twitter account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 What's his twitter account? Presumably @mattslaterbbc He comes across as being very tetchy when someone questions what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 What gets me is there is that text in the article pointing out why the fault lies with the people selling the club and not the FAPPT and they still add comments such as: Firstly they obviously do not know the difference between the FA and the FL and secondly the only fault is to be taken in by the promises of someone that also fooled a lot of other people. In fairness though, plenty of people on here seem to have problems with that distinction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Anybody else read Rod Liddle's very good article in the Sunday Times under the headline "Portsmouth pay price for absurd delusions of grandeur" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Anybody else read Rod Liddle's very good article in the Sunday Times under the headline "Portsmouth pay price for absurd delusions of grandeur" ? Yep, see my post 55078 from this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 "In simple terms, expenditure has exceeded income in a large way predominantly due to handing out unsustainable salaries to players on long-term contracts." Well what a surprise....but don't worry Trevor, go and speak to lumpitt.....he's got an explanation for that How can that be? I believe this new administrator is telling porky pies, just like the last one did! After all, we've listened to the Corpse telling us for two years now that the club is self sustainable, living within it's means and financially sound. We've also had PFC123 telling how they'll be fine, so he must have known all along they were economically viable. To top it all off, we've even had lumpitt stating in the press that they are an excellently run club, financially in a much better place, and not only that, but only made a loss of £0.8m which will be shown when the accounts are published - where are these accounts by the way?? So, the only logical conclusion to all these 'truths' is that the administrator is telling lies..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 (edited) It's always been the case that they thought 'we'll be fine as long as our owner keeps putting in £10m per year', and to be fair (why, oh why should I?) if the owner insists that he is going to put in the required sum for the foreseeable future, then the vast majority of clubs would go along with it and spend the money. Remember Notts County's episode with Munto finance. After their last administration they were predominately owned by supporters groups, but they voted to sell out to a bvi group which promised mega-bucks investment. The funds dried up after about 10 minutes (after Sven and Sol had taken their share), and then the club is bought out of admin at the last minute by a traditional owner again. My points being: 1) If an owner wants to spend money it's actually a bit difficult to stop them (and you want to believe in them) 2) Even if the fans own the club, it will either be broke or sold back into 'risky' ownership again because, human nature, we never learn and want to achieve more Although the Skates are more willing whores than most, I think every club on the planet is susceptable Where the Skates differ from most is that they are proud that they can shrug off the debt. They believe it's an achievement to screw over others (Must go and shower now - I feel dirty..... ) Edited 19 February, 2012 by Winchester Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 adriansfc sorry mate but it is you that hasnt got a clue re find 3 of the only saints fans I've seen to have no clue I know one of them and he has far more of a clue than you and I . He was in fact one of Saints Historians ask Fitzhugh Fellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 adriansfc sorry mate but it is you that hasnt got a clue re find 3 of the only saints fans I've seen to have no clue I know one of them and he has far more of a clue than you and I . He was in fact one of Saints Historians ask Fitzhugh Fellow That may be true, but when given the chance all three were like rabbits in headlights ( or their soundbites were heavily edited). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 adriansfc sorry mate but it is you that hasnt got a clue re find 3 of the only saints fans I've seen to have no clue I know one of them and he has far more of a clue than you and I . He was in fact one of Saints Historians ask Fitzhugh Fellow And when asked "are you bothered at their demise" he replied something along the lines of "no, not one bit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Just looking at the team Coventry put out - at least 4 teenagers with about 40 games between them & upfront instead of Jutkewicz, Clive Platt who is 35 and has spent most of ihs career in League One & Two. I'm amazed they're not making more of a fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 That may be true, but when given the chance all three were like rabbits in headlights ( or their soundbites were heavily edited). What did you expect them to do, start saying "cheating Skate ****s, fish fiddling ****ers deserve to die". That would have ended up on the cutting room floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Anyone hear the dimwit portsmyth fan on 606 a minute ago ? What a whinger...breathtaking stupity. Apparently its all the Football Leagues fault for GIVING them bad owners !! Yes GIVING them !! Then that **** Alan Green agreeing with him "yes the Authorities need to look at themselves" .............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 On the reverse Adam Rant in the Footie Echo reckons Saints fans should wind their collective necks in re Pompey's admin Yeah, about that Adam, could you give some evidence of how they were so worried about us going out of business a few years back ? Perhaps the Echo could arrange a collection at St Marys for them at the next home game........ I wonder whatever became of those plans they unveiled about the "floating stadium" near that tower thing they have got down there ? Whoever has them should publish them again, they are sitting on comedy gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Yeah, about that Adam, could you give some evidence of how they were so worried about us going out of business a few years back ? Perhaps the Echo could arrange a collection at St Marys for them at the next home game........ I wonder whatever became of those plans they unveiled about the "floating stadium" near that tower thing they have got down there ? Whoever has them should publish them again, they are sitting on comedy gold. Actually wasn't there a solidarity campaign by a few Saints fans (think it might have been before the Prem admin) to try to assist with donations etc in their time of need? I recollect this (misplaced) hand of friendship was thrown back by the bestest fans in the world along the lines of ..'we dont ned no help from know scummers'.. etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Apparently Rod Liddle in todays Sunday Times slags portsmyth in his column calling them "cheats" . Unfortunately the site is pay per view so I cant post link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Anyone hear the dimwit portsmyth fan on 606 a minute ago ? What a whinger...breathtaking stupity. Apparently its all the Football Leagues fault for GIVING them bad owners !! Yes GIVING them !! Then that **** Alan Green agreeing with him "yes the Authorities need to look at themselves" .............. Alan Green must be just about the most odious **** in broadcasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Just listening to Press Pass on Talksport. David Conn was on, said that no serious person would invest in them, and that's why they ended up with all these undesirables. Des Kelly said he feels teams that go into admin, should be disqualified from the League and automatically relegated. Conn said that the taxman used to go easy on football clubs, but that Bates had enraged them when Leeds went into admin, and that they now act stright away.Said they are sick of people getting rich on the back of football, whilst the clubs wont pay their tax bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Anyone hear the dimwit portsmyth fan on 606 a minute ago ? What a whinger...breathtaking stupity. Apparently its all the Football Leagues fault for GIVING them bad owners !! Yes GIVING them !! Then that **** Alan Green agreeing with him "yes the Authorities need to look at themselves" .............. Where were the Poopey fans protesting about CSI buying them ? Where were they in October when the policy of 'Quality over Quantity' was in full swing, ( and before Anotonov's world imploded ) ? They never complained publicly about any of their owners WHEN they took over, despite all the efforts of SWF investigators to warn them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 AdrianSFC Yes thats the one I was referring to. brilliant response from DB . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Where were the Poopey fans protesting about CSI buying them ? Where were they in October when the policy of 'Quality over Quantity' was in full swing, ( and before Anotonov's world imploded ) ? They never complained publicly about any of their owners WHEN they took over, despite all the efforts of SWF investigators to warn them. This is so true, they started with the gun runner. Then just go back to the start of this thread an they were all crowing about Al Fahim splashing 50-mil on them! LOL Followed by Ali Al Mirrage also going to splash millions etc etc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Agreed, improved the whole feature a thousand times! Still think we should buy a brick at SMS with this threads link on it. Permanent reminder. Brilliant idea! And the final post on this thread after Poopey are no more can be a photo of the brick glinting in the sun at the stadium.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Brilliant idea! And the final post on this thread after Poopey are no more can be a photo of the brick glinting in the sun at the stadium.... With Fitzhugh Fella standing next to it I suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 With Fitzhugh Fella standing next to it I suggest With its original title, this one, or a new and more appropriate one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Can you still buy the bricks? I know you can't buy the pavers anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 (edited) Apparently Rod Liddle in todays Sunday Times slags portsmyth in his column calling them "cheats" . Unfortunately the site is pay per view so I cant post link. He does. But he also includes us in his list of clubs with "absurd delusions of grandeur", along with all the other Championship clubs that have gone into admin in the last decade. Liddle also slagged Pompey in his Sun column last week. Edited 19 February, 2012 by CityRanger state education Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Sha la la la la la la... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 I wonder whatever became of those plans they unveiled about the "floating stadium" near that tower thing they have got down there ? Whoever has them should publish them again, they are sitting on comedy gold. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/7460940.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/6591049.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Where were the Poopey fans protesting about CSI buying them ? Where were they in October when the policy of 'Quality over Quantity' was in full swing, ( and before Anotonov's world imploded ) ? They never complained publicly about any of their owners WHEN they took over, despite all the efforts of SWF investigators to warn them. It was all so predictable... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?14620-Pompey-Takeover-Saga&p=1056093#post1056093 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzie Saints Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/7460940.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/6591049.stm Meanwhile 5 years later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 nice link Si, some good predictions there, and some people saying the thread should have closed back then as the Russians had arrived to save the day! The worrying thing is the thread is just as funny reading it back again - that means you could go back to the start and have a good laugh even though you know what's coming up, and in some cases, because you know what's coming up! Anyway, new week, more hilarity - let's see if Lampitt makes it to Wednesday - and what the administrator has up his sleeve. As long as it isn't more signings then it should be another good week - and of course AA will be mounting his great challenge, and explaining away that last minute impulse bribe that Chanrai dangled in front of the court.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Having watched Pompey's slow-motion train crash to obscurity, I was amused to see Madjeski sitting next to the latest Russian "businessman" to infect the English Leagues. Are Reading fans going to blame the FL or Madjeski when it all goes tits up. Be afraid Reading fans, be very afraid. http://rumafia.com/person.php?id=204 Of course, it's not this character, it's his son. Familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 When is the Fl Disciplinary meeting, this week, any idea, anyone know?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 blimey, been away skiing for just over a week and there's far too many pages to catch up. Any recent gems from our resident skates that I've missed? any views on the prospect of further points penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/7460940.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/6591049.stm I love how the stadium in the mock ups is packed to the rafters! Dream on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorsetdave Posted 19 February, 2012 Share Posted 19 February, 2012 Meanwhile 5 years later I knew she would become famous, as this vid proves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKgwypr9dds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 20 February, 2012 Share Posted 20 February, 2012 I knew she would become famous, as this vid proves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKgwypr9dds I ****ing hate that ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 20 February, 2012 Share Posted 20 February, 2012 Apparently a coin was thrown onto the pitch at fraton park. The police are investigating whether it was a missile or a takeover bid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzie Saints Posted 20 February, 2012 Share Posted 20 February, 2012 I knew she would become famous, as this vid proves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKgwypr9dds F*ckin Hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 20 February, 2012 Share Posted 20 February, 2012 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/7460940.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/6591049.stm In fairness, the second clause of the second sentence in the second article remains true to this very day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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