CB Saint Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Neil Allen @pn_neil_allen Reply Retweet Favorite · Open #Pompey to ask FL for permission to bring in loans with up to 7 players out for Barnsley match. Leaving him with squad of 11. Wow. Unbelievable... Still 4 more that they need to field a legal team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 And how exactly do they propose to pay those players, I mean have they actually paid the ones they already have yet? Lucky Heather ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Neil Allen @pn_neil_allen Reply Retweet Favorite · Open #Pompey to ask FL for permission to bring in loans with up to 7 players out for Barnsley match. Leaving him with squad of 11. Wow. Unbelievable... haha No way they aren't making up some of those injuries as a way to try and persuade the FL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Here is the list for tomorrow in Court 10 (of the Rolls Building) before MRS JUSTICE PROUDMAN. There are a number of cases (10 ?) before the Cheats FC so could it be delayed until the afternoon (?). http://www.justice.gov.uk/guidance/courts-and-tribunals/courts/hearing-lists/list-cause-rolls.htm But if someone went to court and caused a bit of an upset it could be put off until Monday or Tuesday afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 And how exactly do they propose to pay those players, I mean have they actually paid the ones they already have yet? My thoughts entirely, they keep on bringing up the fact that they only have 14 or so players, but they are players that they cannot afford to pay, therefore they should not be allowed to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Here is the list for tomorrow in Court 10 (of the Rolls Building) before MRS JUSTICE PROUDMAN. There are a number of cases (10 ?) before the Cheats FC so could it be delayed until the afternoon (?). http://www.justice.gov.uk/guidance/courts-and-tribunals/courts/hearing-lists/list-cause-rolls.htm The original judge [Proudman J] was a charitable assets lawyer and she was a little out of her depth,” claims one partner. “I don’t think she was used to dealing with these sorts of contested provisions or able to understand the commercial context.” http://www.thelawyer.com/court-of-appeal-comes-to-the-rescue-in-european-directories-restructure/1006041.article Not sure how savvy this one is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Here is the list for tomorrow in Court 10 (of the Rolls Building) before MRS JUSTICE PROUDMAN. There are a number of cases (10 ?) before the Cheats FC so could it be delayed until the afternoon (?). http://www.justice.gov.uk/guidance/courts-and-tribunals/courts/hearing-lists/list-cause-rolls.htm Now wouldnt it be a shame if the 10 before all dragged out so they couldnt do theirs, so straight into the WUP on monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Neil Allen @pn_neil_allen Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Etuhu, Lawrence, Norris and Varney out. Halford, Ward and Rocha big doubts. Leaves 11 fit outfield #Pompey players including Kanu & Webster. Hmmmm.. I suggest they play their academy players.. oh wait, they got sent home didn't they?! Quality over Quantity really isn't working for them is it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 The original judge [Proudman J] was a charitable assets lawyer and she was a little out of her depth,” claims one partner. “I don’t think she was used to dealing with these sorts of contested provisions or able to understand the *commercial context.” http://www.thelawyer.com/court-of-appeal-comes-to-the-rescue-in-european-directories-restructure/1006041.article Not sure how savvy this one is She was more inclined toward a literal and not a commercial *reading I'd say that's exactly what's required here. Stick to the letter of the law and they'll have no chance, none of this 'football is a special case' nonsense..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 If they intend to travel up tomorrow the money has to be in the coach companies bank account today as I have known the owner for 30 years and he has told me no money up front 24 hours before day of travel no coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 She will not have the guts to do what she should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 They are angling for a postponement of the Barnsley game aren't they? "Can't bring in any loans and all our team are injured - give us a break and postpone the game. If they all had flu you would let us do it. Come on, postpone the game." If they can't afford the bus to Barnsley how can they play the game? But not to pay the game without prior FL approval would have a mega-impact ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Neil Allen @pn_neil_allen Reply Retweet Favorite · Open #Pompey to ask FL for permission to bring in loans with up to 7 players out for Barnsley match. Leaving him with squad of 11. Wow. Unbelievable... How unbelievably sweet would it be for Nicola to go to the press and say he is willing to offer PFC 3 SFC Academy players for 1 month FOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffalo Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Mrs Justice Proudman has shown in the past that she is not averse to handing out bankruptcy orders, even to parties who are not 'hopelessly insolvent'.. http://bankruptcyandinsolvency.blogspot.com/2010/06/grounds-for-presentation-of-petition.html COYMJP.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 They are angling for a postponement of the Barnsley game aren't they? "Can't bring in any loans and all our team are injured - give us a break and postpone the game. If they all had flu you would let us do it. Come on, postpone the game." If they can't afford the bus to Barnsley how can they play the game? But not to pay the game without prior FL approval would have a mega-impact ... Middlesbrough done that once for an away game at Blackburn. Got docked 3 points. Was the difference between them going down and us staying up. Oh the irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 (edited) They couldn't even do that as they don't own the car park!! The snappy repartee and comic timing on here is great. Honourable mention to Panda who must be a slower typist.. Farlington sports ground doesn't have a gate (or not in my day) so they could train there and change in their cars.. Edited 16 February, 2012 by suewhistle too many heres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Now wouldnt it be a shame if the 10 before all dragged out so they couldnt do theirs, so straight into the WUP on monday Or if there was a false fire alarm triggered or such like. That would be dreadfully unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 [h=3]adzPFC[/h]Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM @Lord_Palmerston: #Pompey staff still not paid Jan wages. They have been warned they may not get that pay & be lumped in as creditors From Twitter I`m sure this will motivate the players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 The original judge [Proudman J] was a charitable assets lawyer and she was a little out of her depth,” claims one partner. “I don’t think she was used to dealing with these sorts of contested provisions or able to understand the *commercial context.” http://www.thelawyer.com/court-of-appeal-comes-to-the-rescue-in-european-directories-restructure/1006041.article Not sure how savvy this one is Mrs Justice Proudman has shown in the past that she is not averse to handing out bankruptcy orders, even to parties who are not 'hopelessly insolvent'.. http://bankruptcyandinsolvency.blogspot.com/2010/06/grounds-for-presentation-of-petition.html COYMJP.. So, is she good or bad? Can't work it out from the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 If they can't afford the bus to Barnsley how can they play the game? But not to pay the game without prior FL approval would have a mega-impact ... Do what my amateur womens 3rd division regional team do and borrow a couple of minibuses. It's hard financing an amateur team but we still had a physio at last night's friendly. I doubt Pompey could afford that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Or if there was a false fire alarm triggered or such like. That would be dreadfully unlucky. you know that will not happen. more likely win euro lottery millions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 [h=3]adzPFC[/h]Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM @Lord_Palmerston: #Pompey staff still not paid Jan wages. They have been warned they may not get that pay & be lumped in as creditors From Twitter I`m sure this will motivate the players! Maybe that's why a few of them are suddenly 'injured'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 [h=3]adzPFC[/h]Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM @Lord_Palmerston: #Pompey staff still not paid Jan wages. They have been warned they may not get that pay & be lumped in as creditors From Twitter I`m sure this will motivate the players! Anything to get that HMRC percentage down below 25%... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Presumably Pompey have a no win, no fee lawyer tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Neil Allen @pn_neil_allen Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Etuhu, Lawrence, Norris and Varney out. Halford, Ward and Rocha big doubts. Leaves 11 fit outfield #Pompey players including Kanu & Webster. Hmmmm.. I suggest they play their academy players.. oh wait, they got sent home didn't they?! Quality over Quantity really isn't working for them is it?! The academy players are training with the first team... Probably have to so they can have practice games of 11 versus 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shufty Zubrik Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Mrs Justice Proudman has shown in the past that she is not averse to handing out bankruptcy orders, even to parties who are not 'hopelessly insolvent'.. http://bankruptcyandinsolvency.blogspot.com/2010/06/grounds-for-presentation-of-petition.html COYMJP.. "What this case demonstrates is that it is important to establish tests for determining whether the debtor is “hopelessly insolvent” at the first instance court" Seems that Mrs Justice Proudman has previous in not letting hopelessly insolvent chancers offering promises of future but incertain funding (ie fairy tale accounting) get past her. Lets hope she is sharp on Friday. Do us Proud Maam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Or if there was a false fire alarm triggered or such like. That would be dreadfully unlucky. You mean, if somebody were to contact the police and allude to the possibility that there may or may not be some kind of explosive device hidden somewhere on the premises, meaning they would have to evacuate the building while they conducted a thorough, room-by-room search? Yes, that would be extremely unfortunate for the Phew wouldn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 You mean, if somebody were to contact the police and allude to the possibility that there may or may not be some kind of explosive device hidden somewhere on the premises, meaning they would have to evacuate the building while they conducted a thorough, room-by-room search? Yes, that would be extremely unfortunate for the Phew wouldn't it. Of course I don't mean that. Just thinking that someone might have a sneaky fag in the toilets. For the record, I'm a non-smoker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Is anyone sad enough to do a summary of the key point throughout this whole saga? I for one would appreciate it. There's been so many downs and further downs (no ups, that's for sure) that it's so hard to keep up, and I think it's the kind of thing I'd like to put on my wall at work to keep me motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Come on Dame Sonia do the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Is anyone sad enough to do a summary of the key point throughout this whole saga? I for one would appreciate it. There's been so many downs and further downs (no ups, that's for sure) that it's so hard to keep up, and I think it's the kind of thing I'd like to put on my wall at work to keep me motivated. That must be a ****ing huge wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 adzPFC Thursday, February 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM @Lord_Palmerston: #Pompey staff still not paid Jan wages. They have been warned they may not get that pay & be lumped in as creditors From Twitter I`m sure this will motivate the players! Well they are creditors. The only way in which they are a special case is via the football creditors rule, which is a football rule, not a law. So if the club is liquidated and thus there is no need to persuade the FL to give them their golden share to play, the players join the rest of the queue with no preferential treatment. As do the other clubs waiting for their transfer fees etc --even the small aussie clubs waiting for their share of the money from the only transfer out on deadline day. (Notice how this fee is magically part of PFC's cash flow and assets, but the fact that most of it is actually someone else's money is ,typically, ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Rangers administrator about to hold a press conference. Not sure if we'll glean any general info from it. Link here if interested: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8501453.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Here is the list for tomorrow in Court 10 (of the Rolls Building) before MRS JUSTICE PROUDMAN. There are a number of cases (10 ?) before the Cheats FC so could it be delayed until the afternoon (?). http://www.justice.gov.uk/guidance/courts-and-tribunals/courts/hearing-lists/list-cause-rolls.htm COYMJP! But if someone went to court and caused a bit of an upset it could be put off until Monday or Tuesday afternoon As sidesplittingly hilarious as that would be, I doubt it would happen... they will probably wind up a string of companies at once without consideration just so they can hear poor old plucky poopey. The original judge [Proudman J] was a charitable assets lawyer and she was a little out of her depth,” claims one partner. “I don’t think she was used to dealing with these sorts of contested provisions or able to understand the *commercial context.” http://www.thelawyer.com/court-of-appeal-comes-to-the-rescue-in-european-directories-restructure/1006041.article Not sure how savvy this one is She will let them go into administration I can imagine, what with the Prime Minister getting unwittingly dragged into the mess after Ms.Mordants little stunt... FFS How unbelievably sweet would it be for Nicola to go to the press and say he is willing to offer PFC 3 SFC Academy players for 1 month FOC. Or perhaps we could kindly offer their talented youngsters a chance to come and make their trade at our magnificent academy. Last time round we basically let them have the tickets to SMS for free as a kind gesture by our chairman Cortese, maybe this time we could humiliate them some more, and pick up the players in an SFC coach? Or the fans do a bucket collection, MAX donation 1penny... the 300 odd quid they get could be given to Ben Haim, or they could buy a new lawn mower for Moneyfields... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Come on Dame Sonia do the right thing. Looks like a nice lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 The academy players are training with the first team... Probably have to so they can have practice games of 11 versus 11. If they have academy lads, they must play them. It's what Coventry have had to do with Conor Thomas, Gael Birgirimana, Cyrus Christie, Shaun Jeffers, Jordan Clarke, Josh Ruffles, Callum Wilson and Nathan Cameron. Coventry havn't been crying foul to the football league over how they are short on squad members after their sales, they've brought in the kids and got on with it. If the Skates get away with that again then it will just cement what an absolute disgrace they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 That must be a ****ing huge wall It is quite big, yeah. Surely someone should be able to come up with a comedy summation of this whole thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Looks like a nice lady Luckily she looks like she has a mean streak when she puts a wig on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 "Absolute disgrace that the football league are giving other teams an unfair advantage when no one at the club has done anything wrong .How can you force a team to compete in a league with only 12 players" Just found this on a skate board - they just don't get it do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Luckily she looks like she has a mean streak when she puts a wig on... this is the fella we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 It is quite big, yeah. Surely someone should be able to come up with a comedy summation of this whole thing? I'm sure if you speak to rallyboy nicely he'll be happy to oblige :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 (edited) "Absolute disgrace that the football league are giving other teams an unfair advantage when no one at the club has done anything wrong .How can you force a team to compete in a league with only 12 players" Just found this on a skate board - they just don't get it do they? Thing is no one is forcing them to compete, they can just jack it in and start over in the local leagues and do everyone else a favour. Mind you a lot of our supporters didn't 'get it' either.Kept going on campaigns and marches and stuff because the team was crap, the managers were crap and Rupert was trying to save money by not playing their idle idols to save appearance fees. Skate supporters should be forced to watch us in one of our crappier matches, one with Molyneux and Lancashire in the team, they'd understand what a team with no money looks like. Edited 16 February, 2012 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Message for holepuncture we both use the same coach with the same driver from the same company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 this is the fella we need Ross Noble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Ross Noble? Close: Judge Jefferies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 @solentsport #pompey tell @solentsport that they have no funds to pay for a scan that captain Liam Lawrence needs on an injury. Tell him to pay it himself...the s*d gets £20k a bloody week. Oh. Do they not have insurance to cover medical expenses? Oh yes, DFCSB aren't like normal clubs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Do they not have insurance to cover medical expenses? Oh yes, DFCSB aren't like normal clubs... Insurance only works if you pay the premiums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Do they not have insurance to cover medical expenses? Oh yes, DFCSB aren't like normal clubs... Insurance becomes invalid if you don't pay the premiums. Come to think of it , are the players properly insured against serious injury? Is that handled by the PFA or the club? What if one had a career-ending injury against Barnsley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 Insurance becomes invalid if you don't pay the premiums. Come to think of it , are the players properly insured against serious injury? Is that handled by the PFA or the club? What if one had a career-ending injury against Barnsley? Makes you wonder if they're legally allowed to play at all at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 February, 2012 Share Posted 16 February, 2012 I hope they have plenty of kitchen foil and some flasks to put their butties and soup in, because they won't be able to afford a meal or a snack on the way up. If they can't afford a coach they can take their own cars and share costs by squeezing three along the back seat and putting all their kit into one bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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