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If he has finally realised how deep the shttie is that they are in, then more fool him and they deserve all they get.

 

This was all totally avoidable.....even after the stupid "Quality or Quantity" farce.

 

After preaching how they were the second top spenders and breaking even, he knew they were in the poo as of November (I suspect way before then, given the wage budget for the new manager, but that's a different story) He then announced the club would be ok until the end of the year, but would run out of money at that point. What he didn't tell everyone was that meant he wasn'ty going to pay the tax man. But you know what...still no biggy. January was the perfect platform to resolve the clubs woes........... The January transfer window.

 

There's 10 million pounds there in sellable player assets (That could have been replaced with cheap freebies) and the real cherry on the cake is that you get to slash your wage bill at the same time. Sure the prices drop because you are in a firesale situation, but it wouldnt have been that hard to sell the best players and stick 10 million in the bank.

 

Of course that would weaken the team and results would go against them, making relegation a serious consideration, but staff would have been paid, the tax man would have been paid and the other small creditors would have been paid.......but no.

 

Lumpitt made a concious decision on who to pay and who not to pay. Him and his manager went to the press assurring the world no one needed to be sold and to prove the point, went and signed another player. The one person he dedcided not to pay, was the one that threatened the entire clubs future............And like a masterstroke from "Business Management" by Peter Storrie, that's the option he went for, believing that once again Administration would wipe off most of the debts, but the keep the squad together, a squad that could probably overcome a ten point deduction.

 

A squad that they simply can't afford, but can be kept together by using adminsitration to wipe the debts and buy time for a new owner.........I think that's called competitive advantage.

 

It just looks like this time, it might have all back fired.

 

Not that I think admin will be refused, I really cant see anyone refusing it and if they do, then they still won't get liquidated on Monday.

 

It is down to the simple reality that a sustainable portsmouth, is not a championship club and nor does it have 20k a week international players.

 

Perhaps lumitt doesnt fancy being a league one or two CEO, but that strikes me as being better than the dole.

 

No sympathy. These were cold calculated decisions that have led them to where they are today.

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Pancake

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I don't have a problem with transfer fees being paid in instalments or being incentivised (i.e. extra payments based on the player and/or team fulfilling certain criteria), but they should simply do away with the Football Creditors rule for any transfers conducted from this summer onwards. It should remain in place for transfers that have already taken place because I don't think it's particularly fair on selling clubs to move the goalposts on a deal they concluded under the old system of secure knowledge that they'll receive 100% of the agreed fees, but from the summer onwards, it should be down to selling clubs to do due diligence on any other club they're looking to do business with.

 

Steve, do you know how this works with deals coming from or going to abroad?

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Viking Warrior

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Dear Michael Appleton

 

It is sad that not only have you run out of money . but you appear to be running out of players . I am a charitable person and I have agreed to sponsor some scummer who is doing a wee trot in london to raise some money for MIND.

 

I therefore have no more farthing to offer you but I can offer you my services as a player. I can play in goal I used to be good . I might be a bit slow now but I can still save the odd ball . I could also play as a striker but I have to warn you Im not a prolific goal scorer unless you give me a Hockey stick. let e know if you get desparate and I will get on the next plane from Orkney.

 

I realise you can not afford transport to pick me up at Soton Airport so I will make my own way to not arf krapp.

 

I will not want paying but can I ask you to provide me with a tin of dubbin each week and let me know if there are any decent cobblers in you picturesque town where I can get a regular supply of leather studs

Look forward to seenig you on friday for training

 

Yours

 

Viking

 

PS the boys in Red and White are doing well . good to see the south coast boys doing so well, Wouldnt you agree

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sidthesquid

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OK, let's put the "our team was fiull of kids" myth to bed once and for all. On of your posters (Chez?) posted the following appearances by your "kids".

 

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I've taken some of them out of the "kid list" because Surman was already established in the first team, Lallana was already breaking into it the season before, Cork was a loan, Scheiderlin cost £1m and McGoldrick was already 22 and had played in the first team fairly regularly two years before. So none of these were "kids" that you were forced to play out of desperation or cost cutting. That leaves players making a total of 187 appearances. Of those, Lee Holmes was a player you signed that summer by outbidding Leeds & Pekhart and Robertson were loans. So, not exactly "kids" bumped up from your youth team any more than some of the loan players we've played over the last couple of seasons. Taking those out of the equation gives you what I'd agree in calling "kids" a total of 157 appearances across the season. Now, I'm assuming many of these appearances were as sub but we'll count them anyway.

 

That means out of a total possible players across the season of 672 (11 starting and 3 subs across 46 league and 2 cup games) your "kids" made up a total of 23% of the total players you played. Or to put it another way, your team averaged 2.5 "kids" per game. Not exactly the youth team you try to portray, is it?

 

You are really something else. Just because some of the youngsters played a lot doesn't mean they are not young. I'll give you Surman because he was established in the team - but at the start of the season Schneiderlin (19years) had played 4 senior games before he joined us, Lallana (20) had 6 CCC games over 2 years, McGoldrick (21) had 21 games in CCC, nearly all as sub, & Cork (19) 34 CCC games in a relegated Scunny team. The fact that they played a lot (& with the exception of McGoaldrought) gone on to be top players is not the point. They played a lot of games as young, untried tyros. Don't rewrite history.

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Steve, do you know how this works with deals coming from or going to abroad?

As far as I'm aware, foreign clubs do not count as "Football Creditors", hence why Udinese (I think) were heavily involved in the CVA process last time around, so they're left waiting in line with the likes of Terry the Builder and St John's Ambulance for a percentage of the scraps.

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A skate friend of mine was at the game last night and enjoyed the pleasure of sitting with Lampitt after the game for a drink. His status on Facebook afterwards read:

 

"I had a drink with David Lampitt tonight... PFC is gone everybody... RIP PFC"

 

The post was commented on by others asking him what DL said and he replied:

 

"He said it's over. His own words. No press, the truth"

 

...

 

"No money, no one wants us"

 

Someone then said

 

"surely it's only going into administration and not being wrapped up completely??"

 

to which the response was:

 

"No, we are dead and buried. His own words in front of my work mate. He said it was a fight we cannot win. I told him I am a lifelong fan. He just said we will fight to the end"

 

another comment from him read

 

"One of his (DL's) comments stuck in my head, he said that "I dont see a way out of this one". He even asked if Jobsite could buy Pompey. He gave every air of a beaten man"

 

Just thought I would share this.

 

Whilst this is music to my ears - can you verify this information Crouchie? I can imagine Lampitt is drinking a lot right now, but it would be strange for a CEO to speak with such a tone of resignation... old Storrie was as cheerful as ever right up until he left to become a consultant!

 

Fingers crossed this is the real Lampitt

 

Poor old Corporate

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A skate friend of mine was at the game last night and enjoyed the pleasure of sitting with Lampitt after the game for a drink. His status on Facebook afterwards read:

 

"I had a drink with David Lampitt tonight... PFC is gone everybody... RIP PFC"

 

The post was commented on by others asking him what DL said and he replied:

 

"He said it's over. His own words. No press, the truth"

 

...

 

"No money, no one wants us"

 

Someone then said

 

"surely it's only going into administration and not being wrapped up completely??"

 

to which the response was:

 

"No, we are dead and buried. His own words in front of my work mate. He said it was a fight we cannot win. I told him I am a lifelong fan. He just said we will fight to the end"

 

another comment from him read

 

"One of his (DL's) comments stuck in my head, he said that "I dont see a way out of this one". He even asked if Jobsite could buy Pompey. He gave every air of a beaten man"

 

Just thought I would share this.

 

'gets on knees and prays this is all true' :p

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I've taken some of them out of the "kid list" because Surman was already established in the first team, Lallana was already breaking into it the season before, Cork was a loan, Scheiderlin cost £1m and McGoldrick was already 22 and had played in the first team fairly regularly two years before. So none of these were "kids" that you were forced to play out of desperation or cost cutting. That leaves players making a total of 187 appearances. Of those, Lee Holmes was a player you signed that summer by outbidding Leeds & Pekhart and Robertson were loans. So, not exactly "kids" bumped up from your youth team any more than some of the loan players we've played over the last couple of seasons. Taking those out of the equation gives you what I'd agree in calling "kids" a total of 157 appearances across the season. Now, I'm assuming many of these appearances were as sub but we'll count them anyway.

 

That means out of a total possible players across the season of 672 (11 starting and 3 subs across 46 league and 2 cup games) your "kids" made up a total of 23% of the total players you played. Or to put it another way, your team averaged 2.5 "kids" per game. Not exactly the youth team you try to portray, is it?

 

I agree that McGoldrick and Surman are possibly stretching the kids thing, but they were still young and relatively inexperienced. Neither were kids, but neither would have started 40 odd games in a normal side. Drew played centre midfield for large parts of the season, showing how massively short we were.

 

Schneiderlin had 5 games to his name, cost £250,000 and was just 19. He was a kid. We did pay money for him, but he would never have played in 30 games in a normal championship side. I guess we could have spent the money on alternative wages, but his wages were low because he was a kid.

Cork was also a nipper. He might have been a loan, but he was a low cost loan because he was young. The same applies to Robertson and Pekhart. Cheapest possible loans to fill the side out. We were so strapped for cash we resorted to loaning out other kids that will have come wothout fees or maybe even wages.

Holmes was signed on a free. He was discarded by Derby because he was injury prone and rubbish (in my eyes). No one wanted him and we picked him up to fill the side again. Not a chance we outbid Leeds in terms of wages. He was 19. Blimey yet another old head.

Lallana played 101 minutes the season before in 5 sub appearances. He was a kid. A good kid, but a youngster nevertheless. I think his 40 games really ought to appear in the stats.

 

So lets add Cork, Lallana and Morgan back into the total along with Pekhart and Robertson. You can have Holmes, McGoldrick and Surman. So that's 269 appearances from the 671 which = 40% So that's 4.5 kids a game. So yes not exactly a youth team, but with a further 216 appearances (32%) from young players like Surman and McGoldrik, that leaves just 28% of the squad taken from senior pros.

 

We turned to cheap youth, make no mistake about it.

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dubai_phil

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A skate friend of mine was at the game last night and enjoyed the pleasure of sitting with Lampitt after the game for a drink. His status on Facebook afterwards read:

 

"I had a drink with David Lampitt tonight... PFC is gone everybody... RIP PFC"

 

The post was commented on by others asking him what DL said and he replied:

 

"He said it's over. His own words. No press, the truth"

 

...

 

"No money, no one wants us"

 

Someone then said

 

"surely it's only going into administration and not being wrapped up completely??"

 

to which the response was:

 

"No, we are dead and buried. His own words in front of my work mate. He said it was a fight we cannot win. I told him I am a lifelong fan. He just said we will fight to the end"

 

another comment from him read

 

"One of his (DL's) comments stuck in my head, he said that "I dont see a way out of this one". He even asked if Jobsite could buy Pompey. He gave every air of a beaten man"

 

Just thought I would share this.

 

Just read this again.

 

Think a line in here may explain why the FB'er was drinking with Lumpitt and why he spoke so candidly.

 

From that I read this was one of the sponsors "representatives"

 

In which case

 

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(been saving that one) 8)

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Saints foreva

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Do people actually want them to die completely?

 

I'm not bothered if the current club goes out of business, just as long as a new club is started by the fans so the rivalry between the two clubs can continue.

 

Rivalry is a big part in Football and our one with the Skates is one of the best in England. The atmosphere at St. Mary's is always rocking when they come to town and you could feel the hatred in the air last time. Couldn't imagine anything like that with Bournemouth.

 

I've been looking forward to the game in April since the fixtures were announced.

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Pancake

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As far as I'm aware, foreign clubs do not count as "Football Creditors", hence why Udinese (I think) were heavily involved in the CVA process last time around, so they're left waiting in line with the likes of Terry the Builder and St John's Ambulance for a percentage of the scraps.

 

Which brings me to my point.... of how can the Football Creditors rule be lawful in the eyes of the European Courts? You might even go as far as to say its some kind of "protectionism" by the FA/FL (whoever made it up) and anti-competitive in Europe.

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Which brings me to my point.... of how can the Football Creditors rule be lawful in the eyes of the European Courts? You might even go as far as to say its some kind of "protectionism" by the FA/FL (whoever made it up) and anti-competitive in Europe.

They are effectively private members' clubs and can basically impose whatever eligibility criteria they like. One of those criteria is that creditors deemed "Football Creditors" must be satisfied in full in the case of an insolvency event, otherwise membership will be revoked/refused.

 

If I had run up a bar bill at a members' club and then tried to renew my membership, I'd expect them to refuse until I'd settled that debt.

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they are cooked royally this time

I really think they could be the first decent sized club to go bust and start again.......

the gregory rumour is a game they have already played to hold off admin..

 

I can see them lasting till the end of the season....then..POP

 

on another note..if they don't last till end of the season...what will that do with regards to points?

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Damn you and your cryptic clues.... ;-))

 

That was an entire owner ago FFS!

 

I will fly to UK overnight Friday, hurtle down to Southampton for Fish & Chips and a couple of beers, watch the Derby game, go to Sisters' 50th bday in Salisbury.

 

Sunday I have shopping to do, Monday & Tuesday driving around for meetings for work before flying back here on Tuesday at 5pm landing at 03:25 Wednesday.

 

Unfortunately as I stay with my Mum and refuse to use a Smartphone - just a nightmare here - I won't have ANy chance of getting any internet access. Mum is in a 3G blackspot so cannot even try the Nokia as a Modem trick.

 

Nothing cryptic, just if what Lumpitt said is anywhere near true then "Fighting for their lives" means they will try every trick to stay alove even IF it is a lost cause - again to me that sounds like the Admin application to Court is a Hail Mary pass. Outcome will depend on someone asking Lumpitt a question he cannot answer in court without putting himself in the firing line is my guess. SURELY HMRC are not THAT stupid to send a Junior Muppet to court again.

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Do people actually want them to die completely?

 

I'm not bothered if the current club goes out of business, just as long as a new club is started by the fans so the rivalry between the two clubs can continue.

 

Rivalry is a big part in Football and our one with the Skates is one of the best in England. The atmosphere at St. Mary's is always rocking when they come to town and you could feel the hatred in the air last time. Couldn't imagine anything like that with Bournemouth.

 

I've been looking forward to the game in April since the fixtures were announced.

 

Been thinking about this as the day of reckoning approaches. My answer is no - although in some ways they deserve it. I would be happy with the following:-

 

1) 10 pts deduction for admin - loan out some of the better players - forced to play depleted squad/youngsters - relegation to League One.

 

2) Close Season - sell henderson, pearce, ward, lawrence, varney, norris etc - replace with lower league youngsters.

 

2a) Appleton Walks

 

3) Pre-Season - Fail to agree CVA - hit with around 20 point penalty for this + repeat offence + failing to service prior CVA.

 

4) Relegation to League Two.

 

If the above were to happen - I would be happy that some justice has finally been served - but we would still have a Poopey to take the **** out of. Trying to strike up a rivalry with AFC Poopey/Reading/Brighton/Bompey just would not be the same.

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Pompey are not in the Premiership.

 

HTH

 

Read the article, the headline is misleading...

 

Football finance expert Dr Chris Brady said: "Rangers may be the tip of the iceberg. EBTs became popular with clubs as a means of reducing crippling wage bills. We believe at least eight current or former Premier League clubs are being investigated."

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They are effectively private members' clubs and can basically impose whatever eligibility criteria they like. One of those criteria is that creditors deemed "Football Creditors" must be satisfied in full in the case of an insolvency event, otherwise membership will be revoked/refused.

 

If I had run up a bar bill at a members' club and then tried to renew my membership, I'd expect them to refuse until I'd settled that debt.

 

But isnt UEFA (and then, of course FIFA) an even bigger members club and could remove the FA from their ranks if they wanted to? Im just really amazed that no-one from abroad has challenged this...

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Read the article, the headline is misleading...

 

Football finance expert Dr Chris Brady said: "Rangers may be the tip of the iceberg. EBTs became popular with clubs as a means of reducing crippling wage bills. We believe at least eight current or former Premier League clubs are being investigated."

 

Sorry i started foaming at the mouth at the thought of correcting you.

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Do people actually want them to die completely?

 

I'm not bothered if the current club goes out of business, just as long as a new club is started by the fans so the rivalry between the two clubs can continue.

 

Rivalry is a big part in Football and our one with the Skates is one of the best in England. The atmosphere at St. Mary's is always rocking when they come to town and you could feel the hatred in the air last time. Couldn't imagine anything like that with Bournemouth.

 

I've been looking forward to the game in April since the fixtures were announced.

 

I would of been happy had they been punished last time and learnt their lessons. Play a side that their actual budget allows and if that takes them down a league then so be it. A few seasons in League 1 and a bit of luck would of got them back to the championship. Then on the back of how they were once in the prem they might of attracted someone that could take them back to being a fair and competitve rival for us. Had that been played out and they had earnt some respect by denouncing some of their past so they can earn their right in the future I would of been pleased to have them back as proper rivals.

 

As it happened they continued to screw up and continued to cheat where ever possible. What they have done may not have actually broken any rules but it still amounts to cheating. As has been pointed out more frequently latley by various people.

 

So while I hope that this is the end for the sorry club that is Pompey I would be happy for an AFC Pompey to start somewhere in the leagues and maybe one day do what AFC Wimbledon have done and climb back through the leagues. Maybe one day they can represent themselves as our rivals again. It would be nice as I just dont think some of the other clubs around us quite fit the bill.

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But isnt UEFA (and then, of course FIFA) an even bigger members club and could remove the FA from their ranks if they wanted to? Im just really amazed that no-one from abroad has challenged this...

FIFA and UEFA have jurisdiction over the FA - to an extent (they wouldn't want to be seen to be dictating how national associations should manage the game in their country) - but not over the leagues affiliated to the national associations, especially in the cases of the Premier League and Football League as they're not run by the national association. In many countries, the national league IS run by the national association, but not here.

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FIFA and UEFA have jurisdiction over the FA - to an extent (they wouldn't want to be seen to be dictating how national associations should manage the game in their country) - but not over the leagues affiliated to the national associations, especially in the cases of the Premier League and Football League as they're not run by the national association. In many countries, the national league IS run by the national association, but not here.

 

You arent half a ****ing geek Steve. ;)

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Been thinking about this as the day of reckoning approaches. My answer is no - although in some ways they deserve it. I would be happy with the following:-

 

1) 10 pts deduction for admin - loan out some of the better players - forced to play depleted squad/youngsters - relegation to League One.

 

2) Close Season - sell henderson, pearce, ward, lawrence, varney, norris etc - replace with lower league youngsters.

 

2a) Appleton Walks

 

3) Pre-Season - Fail to agree CVA - hit with around 20 point penalty for this + repeat offence + failing to service prior CVA.

 

4) Relegation to League Two.

 

If the above were to happen - I would be happy that some justice has finally been served - but we would still have a Poopey to take the **** out of. Trying to strike up a rivalry with AFC Poopey/Reading/Brighton/Bompey just would not be the same.

 

I agree with all of this but must take issue with the bit in bold. Is there some law somewhere that dictates we must have a main rival? Couldn't we just go back to the days before the hatred between us and Pompey erupted and we all got along nicely?

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West Ham being one of them?

 

the most likely candidates seem to be those with large numbers of overseas players on high salaries and other players on high salaries as well.So West Ham might have those attributes yes.Apparently HMRC had some sort of amnesty last year, you could just own up..and more importantly wedge up with none too many questions asked and no penalties.

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Pompey one of the eight clubs being investigated for using Employment Benefit Trusts perhaps (wouldn't put it past them) and their debt to taxman to grow even further?

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4130498/8-Premier-League-clubs-to-go-bust-like-Rangers.html

 

HMRC tried (unsuccessfully) to pin this one on PFC during the last court case! I think the judge deemed it as being lawful, or certainly ignored it!!

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Do people actually want them to die completely?

 

I'm not bothered if the current club goes out of business, just as long as a new club is started by the fans so the rivalry between the two clubs can continue.

 

Rivalry is a big part in Football and our one with the Skates is one of the best in England. The atmosphere at St. Mary's is always rocking when they come to town and you could feel the hatred in the air last time. Couldn't imagine anything like that with Bournemouth.

 

I've been looking forward to the game in April since the fixtures were announced.

 

This time, yes.

 

They've cheated, conned and poisoned the game for far too long.

 

Get all worked up over the rivalry with a resurrected AFC Sh*t Blue Few if you must, if we ever draw them in the 3rd round of the FA Cup.

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aintforever

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Do people actually want them to die completely?

 

They will be just as easy to hate when they are in the Evo-Stick South Premier.

 

If you miss derby days that much just pop down to Totton when they play them. I for one couldn't give a monkeys, I find the derby games just alot of hassle, the games are usually poor as well.

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Lampitt on SSN basically not his fault' date=' debts are to Portpin, CSI and old CVA. Only a small amount, no figure mentioned,due to current position.[/quote']

 

Well, I'd like to reply to that one but I've already run out of facepalms for this month.

 

"It's nothing to do with me Guv. I'm only the chuffing CEO FFS"

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"However the Portsmouth Supporters' Trust have claimed that Andronikou is asking them to provide £100m in proof of funds before any meeting between them could take place."

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

So to buy one of England's crisis clubs (stadium and land ownership not included) you need to have 100m lying about just for starters? They have no chance if that's the case

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Damn iPad .... Thought you could be quicker out of the league for two admins so close together?

 

May be the last of their worries this time round.

 

But IF they go to admin tomorrow then it will be -10 with the League able tod ecide what they want. Don't forget, points are worthless - until the end of the season.

 

I'd be more than happy for them to get -10 and the FL hit them with discretionary deductions first week of May. But don't think it is likely they will be here

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So to buy one of England's crisis clubs (stadium and land ownership not included) you need to have 100m lying about just for starters? They have no chance if that's the case

Early conspiracy theories when that claim came out was that Chainrai had someone waiting in the wings to be the new "saviour", so anyone who had any genuine interest was scared off by AA with a ridiculous price tag.

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