trousers Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 (edited) Some of you really do set yourself up for disappointment. I think you could count on the fingers of one hand those who thought Redknapp would be sent down (when push came to shove) Edited 8 February, 2012 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Dear Boss, please can you stop paying my wages through PAYE and pay them to monaco to account Rover62, thankyou. PS the UK is bankrupt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 On Twitter... Chris Kamara Great result 4Harry Redknapp, what a waste of our money taking him to court in the first place, no sense when such a low figure involved! Once a skate, always a skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Did any of you actually expect anything different? He was blatantly guilty, but most jurors are too thick to understand the basic facts/law and just get confused by all the spin from the defence. Watch as the Skates somehow slime out fo the hole they've got themselves into as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadge Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Dear Boss, please can you stop paying my wages through PAYE and pay them to monaco to account Rover62, thankyou. PS the UK is bankrupt Dear boss, please don't pay me anything, just make some "investments" for me, to an offshore bank account, that I will pretend I don't really know anything about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 I think you could count on the fingers of one hand those who thought Redknapp would be sent down (when push came to shove) Loads were getting excited about it, including some even speculating how many points the Skates might get deducted as a result. Same as all of those posting pictures of "toast" over two years ago now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Did any of you actually expect anything different? Head....no. Heart.....yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Loads were getting excited about it Most of the "excitement" on here is for comical effect. Well, that's been my game plan anyway (often failing miserably in the process!) FWIW, I also think Pompey will "get away with it" this time around too. But I still continue to post as if they're going out of existence tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Back to Portsmouth's future then... Someone mentioned Scarborough FC's recent demise as a comparison. They too had planning constraints on their ground, but that did not save them or the ground. (According to the impeccable source that is wikipedia) .... "The gates of the McCain Stadium were padlocked, and the football ground site was bought by the local Council and earmarked for housing." So the council there waited till the club was dead, then bought the gound and presumably made a profit when houses were built ... a much better use of council tax-payers money than bailing out a moribund club like PFC. Btw 2 successor clubs were formed, Scarborough Town and Scarborough Athletic. Neither seems to be very successful in lowly non-league, and of course neither has a ground of its own. Since they're claiming credit for Dickens in Portsmouth, even though he only lived there till he was about 18 months old, perhaps they'd like to meet the ghost of Christmas Future. All they need do is look at Scarborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones91 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 He'll be knighted next ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 On Twitter... Chris Kamara Great result 4Harry Redknapp, what a waste of our money taking him to court in the first place, no sense when such a low figure involved! Once a skate, always a skate. but he's right, this was about 20K in tax. In France they wouldn't even bother with courts for that sort of sum, just issue a belated taxation notice and take it out of your bank account and let you prove they were wrong to do so if you could. They had a voluntary purge on offshore accounts here last year, they presented you with their case,gave you a month or so to think about it and then let you pay with no questions asked,no penalties ,no nothing. Netted them 6 billion euros and not one court case to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 On Twitter... Chris Kamara Great result 4Harry Redknapp, what a waste of our money taking him to court in the first place, no sense when such a low figure involved! Once a skate, always a skate. Footballers and all the hangers on really do exist in their own fricking bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 I am surprised that Poopey are not sponsored by "Teflon". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 but he's right, this was about 20K in tax. In France they wouldn't even bother with courts for that sort of sum, just issue a belated taxation notice and take it out of your bank account and let you prove they were wrong to do so if you could. They had a voluntary purge on offshore accounts here last year, they presented you with their case,gave you a month or so to think about it and then let you pay with no questions asked,no penalties ,no nothing. Netted them 6 billion euros and not one court case to get it. It was more than £20k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 but he's right, this was about 20K in tax. In France they wouldn't even bother with courts for that sort of sum, just issue a belated taxation notice and take it out of your bank account and let you prove they were wrong to do so if you could. They had a voluntary purge on offshore accounts here last year, they presented you with their case,gave you a month or so to think about it and then let you pay with no questions asked,no penalties ,no nothing. Netted them 6 billion euros and not one court case to get it. No -- the income tax for saghig rate payer on £180 k is around £90k not £20k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Dear Boss, please can you stop paying my wages through PAYE and pay them to monaco to account Rover62, thankyou. Careful you don't call the money going into the Monaco account "wages" though. Simply tell your boss to stop paying you a salary but instead get him to loan you personal money for investment purposes. And then only pay tax on the returns you get from that "investment". Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones91 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 No -- the income tax for saghig rate payer on £180 k is around £90k not £20k. Plus employers NI that pompey would have saved on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 No -- the income tax for saghig rate payer on £180 k is around £90k not £20k. looked it up, about 39000£ for Harry and £15000 for Milan according to the CPS. not worth a 2 week trial. Should have just offered them the chance to pay and shut the feck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rational Rich Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Now the criminal trials are over, surely the FA are now free to investigate the financial irregularities at Pompey and apply suitable points deductions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Water canons & tear gas out in Monaco to control the queue outside the local branch of HSBC, I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 So what about Storrie then? I thought people were intimating that they knew he was guilty? Surely his verdict will be able to be reported now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 The Redknapp verdict is joke. So basically, any boss can pay their employees' bonuses via an offshore account and pay no tax. As long as they say they are friends and it was a gift/investment/loan (or all three)? No wonder this country is skint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 The main things that I conclude from looking at the reaction to the Redknapp news via Twitter (I'm not a "user", just went on there briefly) is this: 1. The vast majority of people on Twitter really are stupid. 2. A surprisingly high proportion of people seem to like Redknapp (explained by 1. above). 3. A surprisingly high proportion of people want him to become England manager (explained by 1. above). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Now the criminal trials are over, surely the FA are now free to investigate the financial irregularities at Pompey and apply suitable points deductions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 So what about Storrie then? I thought people were intimating that they knew he was guilty? Surely his verdict will be able to be reported now? Yep, not guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Head....no. Heart.....yes. This ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 I suspect that this will pee off the HMRC alot and that will result in them targeting football even more - especially when it comes to non payment of tax and winding up orders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 I'm not saying that the jury was bias towards Harry Redknapp, but I thought it was a bit odd when the foreman announced "Not Guilty".. Followed by a loud "Mazel Tov!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Most of the "excitement" on here is for comical effect. Well, that's been my game plan anyway (often failing miserably in the process!) FWIW, I also think Pompey will "get away with it" this time around too. But I still continue to post as if they're going out of existence tomorrow. Fair enough. Maybe I'm in the minority on here, but I don't find any of it remotely funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 What I find unbloodybelievable (apart from that not guilty verdict), is, that according to the sun, Poopey have signed a defender on loan from Fulham. This after non payment of tax,or wages......I really think I'm in the wrong buisness, and should adopt a criminal bent!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 looked it up, about 39000£ for Harry and £15000 for Milan according to the CPS. not worth a 2 week trial. Should have just offered them the chance to pay and shut the feck up. Mr Redknapp is clearly innocent of all crimes and charges, and I would not want to suggest otherwise, or that might be construed as libellous. However I have a faint suspicion that HMRC may have felt that this charge was the tip of an iceberg, and that other moneys might have been involved, using these 2 particular instances as specimen charges. Clearly they were wrong. I'm using the 'Private Eye pocket guide to libel' here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 I'm using the 'Private Eye pocket guide to libel' here ! That would be Private Eye, the most-sued publication in British legal history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 That would be Private Eye, the most-sued publication in British legal history? Yep. Had my fingers crossed as well though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 looked it up, about 39000£ for Harry and £15000 for Milan according to the CPS. not worth a 2 week trial. Should have just offered them the chance to pay and shut the feck up. Most of us on 30k average only pay 7.4k tax so they shouldnt take any one to court by your theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 (edited) That would be Private Eye, the most-sued publication in British legal history? Well yes but in olden days they wrote anything about anyone.Having some factual foundation just didn't come into it. Never forget their vendetta with W H Smith (who didn't sell PE at the time).Incited readers to go down to their local branch of WHS at busy times and ask for stacks of rare magazines that didn't sell all that well.After making the assistant find about 10 or 15 such publications ask for Private Eye,when informed that WHS did not carry that review client refused all the others because of it.Not a good time to work for WHS cos a lot of PE readers did exactly that. Edited 8 February, 2012 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Sour Mash - you were slagging people off on here and demanding the thread closed a few weeks back as there was no more mileage in the pompey story, for a moment we thought Ho had found himself a 4th user name. Then you rejoined us nutjobs and bed-wetters, no doubt enjoying the entertainment when pompey were firmly back in the sh1t, now you come back on to say it isn't funny... Please explain? Most people who don't like a thread just don't bother to visit it, so yes, in answer to your question, you are in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 And every time they've tried so far, they've ****ed it up. I know which way my money would be going... Offshore. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 @CdeBOfficial: Delighted for Harry Redknapp, he's a gent!! That's the last ****ing Chris de Burgh album I buy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Does the verdict mean the payments were not subject to tax or is Harry innocent of intentionally tax-dogging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 The main things that I conclude from looking at the reaction to the Redknapp news via Twitter (I'm not a "user", just went on there briefly) is this: 1. The vast majority of people on Twitter really are stupid. 2. A surprisingly high proportion of people seem to like Redknapp (explained by 1. above). 3. A surprisingly high proportion of people want him to become England manager (explained by 1. above). /\ /\:lol: I'm also not a user. Wouldn't even know how to go about tweeting, twittering, or whatever it is. I'm one ahead of Harry, though and know how to send a text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Does the verdict mean the payments were not subject to tax or is Harry innocent of intentionally tax-dogging? That as well?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 it was obvious from the start that HR was playing to the gallery and the general public have a soft spot for him. The prosecution were inept and didnt even take him to task regarding him not able to text etc. That was quite easy to prove his lying. It looks again as Pompey will get away with it is going to be the way yet again. British law is the best in the world Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Sour Mash - you were slagging people off on here and demanding the thread closed a few weeks back as there was no more mileage in the pompey story, for a moment we thought Ho had found himself a 4th user name. Then you rejoined us nutjobs and bed-wetters, no doubt enjoying the entertainment when pompey were firmly back in the sh1t, now you come back on to say it isn't funny... Please explain? Most people who don't like a thread just don't bother to visit it, so yes, in answer to your question, you are in the minority. What are you on about? Where have I suggested I find any of this funny? The whole thing is a joke, but not a particulalrly funny one. I was posting that over two years ago. My stance on this has always been the same. I know they're in a load of trouble. I believe Redknapp to be guilty. I think it's you that don't get it, but keep posting away if he keeps you happy. I keep hoping that I'm proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 daily mail have done a nice timeline http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2097761/Harry-Redknapp-NOT-GUILTY-taking-189k-bungs-tax-evasion-trial.html Police pursued a complex paper trail after Harry Redknapp told a corruption inquiry of his Monaco dealings with Milan Mandaric. 2001 June 25, 2001 - Redknapp joins Portsmouth as Director of Football. His contract includes commission on net transfer profits of 10%. July 3, 2001 - Redknapp signs Peter Crouch from Queens Park Rangers. 2002 March 18 - Redknapp agrees new deal to become manager at Portsmouth following the departure of Graham Rix, with reduced commission on transfer profits of 5%. March 27 - Peter Crouch, signed by Redknapp nine months earlier for £1.25m, joins Aston Villa for £4.5m, a profit of £3.25m, worth £115,473 at 5% or £230,946 at 10%. April 22 - Redknapp is paid a bonus through Portsmouth's payroll of £115,473. Tax and National Insurance are deducted at source via the PAYE system. April 26 - Redknapp flies to Monaco to open Rosie 47 bank account. May 27 - Redknapp and Milan Mandaric sign backdates contract to include the 5% clause dated to March 19. May 28 - Mandaric pays 145,000 US dollars into Rosie 47 account. Sum is credited on June 4. 2003 January 4 - Redknapp faxed David Cusdin, Monaco HSBC bank manager, requesting 100,000 US dollar transfer to Mandaric's US account with First Star. February - Details of a £300,000 bonus received by Redknapp from West Ham United upon the sale of Rio Ferdinand appear in newspaper reports. 2004 January 15 - HMRC tax authorities write to Redknapp and his accountants to announce a civil investigation into Redknapp's payment for Ferdinand transfer. April 29 - Rosie 47 account receives a payment of 150,000 dollars from the Milan Mandaric Revocable Trust 2006 October 19 - Tax authorities close probe into Redknapp's tax affairs by signing certificate of full disclosure. November 6 - Redknapp reveals details of the Rosie 47 account as he is quizzed by the Quest investigation into Premier League bungs. November 20 - Accountant Nigel Layton, of Quest, writes to Redknapp requesting voluntary disclosure of all offshore and onshore accounts between 2004 and 2006. November 24 - Mandaric signs letter to Mr Layton surrounding £100,000 investment in Monaco account. November 27 - Portsmouth chief executive Peter Storrie faxes Redknapp's solicitors the letter Mandaric sent to Quest. 2007 November 27 - Mandaric and Redknapp arrested by City of London Police. 2008 January 11 - Redknapp gives written instruction for the Rosie 47 account closure and for funds to be transferred to his London HSBC account. January 31 - Malcolm Webber, Redknapp's accountant, writes to HMRC declaring untaxed interest on Monaco account. He attaches £4,415 cheque from Redknapp. February 11 - Rosie 47 account closed. 207,000 US dollars credited to Redknapp's UK HSBC account. October 15 - Redknapp's accountants write to HMRC "indicating possibility" that tax was not accounted for in respect of two payments - 145,000 US dollars in June 2002 and 150,000 US dollars in May 2004. 2009 February 26 - News of the World reporter Rob Beasley calls Mandaric on phone after receiving a tip off about the police investigation. February 28 - Mr Beasley calls Redknapp on the eve of his new club, Tottenham Hotspur taking on Manchester United. May 6 - City of London police obtain production order to take tape recordings and notes made by Mr Beasley. June - Redknapp and Mandaric both interviewed by police. July 13 - Mandaric's solicitor emails Redknapp's lawyer to ask for repayment of 145,000 US dollars. October 4 - News of the World publishes revelations about the investigation. October 5 - Police interview Redknapp again. 2010 January - Redknapp and Mandaric are charged with tax evasion. 2012 January 23 - The pair go on trial at Southwark Crown Court accused of two counts of cheating the public revenue February 8 - Both are acquitted Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2097761/Harry-Redknapp-NOT-GUILTY-taking-189k-bungs-tax-evasion-trial.html#ixzz1lnMVIrf8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Are you suggesting they shouldn't bother with tax evasion cases? No mate, not at all. But the case cost at least 8 million pounds and the Jury dismissed the case in very little time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 He's on the radio now. I've just been sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 "I am delighted we've been proved completely innocent and I can get my reputation back." What reputation is that, Storrieteller? Capability to take a club and make it the first in British footballing history to go into administration in the Premiership? You must be really proud of that reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfc123 Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 (edited) SSN Harry Not Guilty MM Not Guilty Noooooooooo!!! But they were nailed on guilty weren't they? EVERYONE knows they're guilty. Oh, er, except the 12 men and women on the jury that is! Well guess what, they were NOT guilty. Oh dear me, I haven't had many laughs in the last few weeks, but after reading dozens and dozens of gleeful hate posts on here about how 'Arry and Mandy shouldn't bend over for a dropped bar of soap, fnar fnar, the above quote is a genuine PMSL moment :lol::lol: Like I've said all along, relax, we're going to be just fine Edited 8 February, 2012 by pfc123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 Noooooooooo!!! But they were nailed on guilty weren't they? EVERYONE knows they're guilty. Oh, er, except the 12 men and women on the jury that is! Well guess what, they were NOT guilty. Oh dear me, I haven't had many laughs in the last few weeks, but after reading dozens and dozens of gleeful hate posts on here about how 'Arry and Mandy shouldn't bend over for a dropped bar of soap, fnar fnar, the above quote is a genuine PMSL moment :lol::lol: Like I've said all along, relax, we're going to be just fine And here was me thinking most Pompey fans were just as gutted he's been found not guilty as we are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 8 February, 2012 Share Posted 8 February, 2012 And here was me thinking most Pompey fans were just as gutted he's been found not guilty as we are... All my pet skate mates are furious that he's been let off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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