trousers Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Stan Collymore on now.... this is going to be interesting.. Go Stan!
OldNick Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I do hope the FL have more balls. PS HR and MM must be celebrating, they know that the HMRC missed on open goal from a foot out, and the judiciary don't care either. No wonder the worlds mega rich who may be looking for tax dodges are queueing up to come here
OttawaSaint Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Maybe HMRC didn't try as hard as they could of because they have other plans and losing this case just plays right into their hands for other avenues that they are persuing...
Torres Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Just back, shame it went that way but interesting summary. Whole judgement will be available online this evening if anyone is interested.
alpine_saint Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Cheating money-laundering corrupt c**ts get away with it, as usual.
mack rill Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I never wanted them liquidated. The Derby games are the best games by far. There you go Trolleys, Never mind (Close thread) old Chez is thinking positive already.
Saintboy Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Who the f**k cares about what Stan Collymore has to say. Woman beating scum.
OldNick Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Sorry your disappointed lads! Seems your "experts" were no better than ours! I think many fell into the trap that they felt they were dealing with a normal business and not football. The law don't want to liquidate a community club, and the owners seem to know it. For many Pompey fans im happy, but in the main I detest that you have had glory times and trophies on the back of all taxpayers. Don't tell me British justice is the envy of the world Lol
warsash saint Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I am so glad that the judge was happy for me to pay my hard earned taxes towards a couple of FA Cup finals & a European tour !
Micky Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Good old Stan - he knows the score - shame he wasn't a judge...!
OldNick Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Just back, shame it went that way but interesting summary. Whole judgement will be available online this evening if anyone is interested. well give us a run down
Kingsland Codger Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Will HMRC be expecting a payment from PFC around the 19th of this month? This will be the tax and NI contributions for the wages paid at the end of July.
Crab Lungs Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Anyone for pocketing some charity money? Stan taking the **** out of Dave Nugent's "image rights"
alpine_saint Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I think many fell into the trap that they felt they were dealing with a normal business and not football. The law don't want to liquidate a community club, and the owners seem to know it.For many Pompey fans im happy, but in the main I detest that you have had glory times and trophies on the back of all taxpayers. Don't tell me British justice is the envy of the world Lol So the message has been sent - football clubs can get away with trading when insolvent. Nice...
Saint J 77 Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 This is a f*cking Joke... how on earth did they get away with this??? Yet again some very dodgy decisions go in Skatestmouth favour!
Channon's Sideburns Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Solent are taking texts - 81333 start with SOLENT Talksport - 81089
OldNick Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I wish we had AA as our administrator, they FL would have given us a 10 point start
alpine_saint Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I wish we had AA as our administrator, they FL would have given us a 10 point start Oily aint the word.
trousers Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Anyone up for a civil action on behalf of the British taxpayer? I assume HMRC will be happy with me withholding a percentage of my income tax this year to cover my losses?
Micky Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 (edited) I would actually hope that most Pompey fans will also see that this is the wrong decission. If they have any decency within them, they must be able to see that what has happened today is nothing short of an injustice. From one administration (only 10 years ago..?) to over 130 million pounds of debt today, nationally recognised by thier fellow professionals as cheats - really is that anything to stand and applaud? Edited 5 August, 2010 by Micky
Trader Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 At least I can resume my previous opinion of HMRC. A bunch of c**ts!
alpine_saint Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I would actually hope that most Pompey fans will also see that this is the wrong decission. If they have any decency within them, they must be able to see that what has happened today is nothing short of an injustice. From one administration (only 10 years ago..?) to over 130 million pounds of debt today, nationally recognised by thier fellow professionals as cheats - really is that anything to stand applaud? Come on man, this is the juidiciary that lets child murderers out in months. Does anything surprise you about the British courts anymore ? Complete toss-pots in wigs and tights.
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 So the message has been sent - football clubs can get away with trading when insolvent. Nice... It does make me question the point of following professional football when it is so morally bankrupt, from the naked greed of players (f'ing Bolotelli wants £185k a week!), schyster agents, clubs ripping off fans with high ticket prices and constantly changing kits (nearly every Prem team now changes their kit once a season, Spurs have got different sponsors for Euro matches and so now have 6 different new kits available), and clubs ripping off local businesses, charities and taxpayers.
Bourno Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Did HMRC have the worst legal team in history representing them?
Secret Site Agent Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 well, you could have written this couln't you. The cheaters have prospered and I can only hope that karma punish them and they continue to suffer. Going down, with a bit of luck. I suddenly have a lot of teams to support, the whole championship minus one plus saints.
OldNick Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 At least I can resume my previous opinion of HMRC. A bunch of c**ts! They certainly played a blinder. AA will be sipping champagne with Chanrai,
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 News reporting no appeal. It's wrong but I dunno what else to say You don't need to say anything. The fault lies with those who used your club the way they did. And HMRC for having everything at their disposal to sort it and actually manage to feck it up handsomely. You and a few others have at least been decent on here.
alpine_saint Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I cannot wait to read the judge's summary that Torres alluded to.
trousers Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I went out to lunch today with a client who said that several of his Pompey supporting colleagues were not in support of Pompey winning this case as they saw the bigger picture. Every cloud...
OldNick Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 You don't need to say anything. The fault lies with those who used your club the way they did. And HMRC for having everything at their disposal to sort it and actually manage to feck it up handsomely. You and a few others have at least been decent on here. Here here
Matthew Le God Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 (edited) "Pompey's administrators immediately asked the court for £230,000 costs from the taxman." I don't see how they have the nerve to do that. £230k vs £24 million Edited 5 August, 2010 by Matthew Le God
Saint 76er Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Whoever said 'cheats never prosper', well next time keep yer big mouth shut. Guess it's all up to Gaydamak now then. Maybe he can accomplish what an insipid HMRC could not...
Wes Tender Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Perhaps we can go to court to claim the £30 million back from HMRC that we paid them when we had no need to. Can we have Mr Mann to adjudicate, as he seems to lack a spine and no more moral fibre than the Android, so our success would be assured.
alpine_saint Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Adronikou's team had the nerve to ask for costs from HMRC ? FFS. What a sick f**king country. Were they snigggering behind their hands too ?
trousers Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 pompey's administrators immediately asked the court for £230,000 costs from the taxman. i don't see how they have the nerve to do that. £230k vs £24 million ffs
OldNick Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 all we need now is for Chanrai to inject a few million to add to Cotterill's squad and they could make it back up. Just think of the money to be made from that again. They may not have a stadium or training pitch but just going up and down every year really gets the ££££££££££££'s coming in
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I genuinely can't believe what has happened here. In slightly related news, apologies for the incredibly **** performance of the forum during all of that. It's the first time the new software's had to bear that sort of load and it epically failed. I've found a load of performance enhancements I can implement, so will be working through those this evening along with the minor update to version 4.0.5, with a view to it all being fine for the Plymouth game on Saturday. Thanks Steve, I was genuinely pee'd off with it. Blank pages, VBulletin errors etc. It's highly likely you didn't realise the possible issues.
Iowsaintsfan Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I don't see how they have the nerve to do that. £230k vs £24 million How much is that just taking the ****?!
trousers Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Anyone up for a civil action on behalf of the British taxpayer? I assume HMRC will be happy with me withholding a percentage of my income tax this year to cover my losses? Perhaps we can go to court to claim the £30 million back from HMRC that we paid them when we had no need to. Can we have Mr Mann to adjudicate, as he seems to lack a spine and no more moral fibre than the Android, so our success would be assured. Worth a go....
Wes Tender Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I don't see how they have the nerve to do that. £230k vs £24 million Perhaps HMRC will deduct it from the tax that the Skates owe them.
trousers Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I genuinely can't believe what has happened here. In slightly related news, apologies for the incredibly **** performance of the forum during all of that. It's the first time the new software's had to bear that sort of load and it epically failed. I've found a load of performance enhancements I can implement, so will be working through those this evening along with the minor update to version 4.0.5, with a view to it all being fine for the Plymouth game on Saturday. Cheers - will come in useful when we're 3-0 down at half time..... ;-))
OldNick Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 and the judge will get into his Aston martin and draw his big salary and pension, after bottling his decision
Iowsaintsfan Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 How much is that just taking the ****?! another 1.15mill off their overall bill then! :/
trousers Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Perhaps HMRC will deduct it from the tax that the Skates owe them. Deduct it from the £37m (HMRC's view) or from the £24m (AA's view)....?
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 I think many fell into the trap that they felt they were dealing with a normal business and not football. The law don't want to liquidate a community club, and the owners seem to know it. For many Pompey fans im happy, but in the main I detest that you have had glory times and trophies on the back of all taxpayers. Don't tell me British justice is the envy of the world Lol British Justice is the best that money can buy.
Iowsaintsfan Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Deduct it from the £37m (HMRC's view) or from the £24m (AA's view)....? surely they should only get 20p in every pound they ask for
alpine_saint Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 FFS. They got the case fast-tracked as well, and were calling for a "sporting chance" yesterday. What about all the f**king clubs relegated and kicked out of cup competitions by their cheating. Did they get a sporting chance ? Complete f**king chav c**ts.
Crab Lungs Posted 5 August, 2010 Posted 5 August, 2010 Brilliant... and the Skates continue to flick the V's...
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