COMEONYOUREDS Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 I actually spelt it Gratest but nice mr news corrected my spelling for me!
Joensuu Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 who's PUPtoast? one of us surely Guilty as charged
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Lol at Laura Norder. Brilliant. Pompey fans absolute scum as usual... now quoting Churchill... :S
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 But why does that make him an "animal's home"? it is because I spell with an upper crust accent Dear Boy
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 I failt to see why some Pompey fans think they've had a hard time of late. By cheating they have won the cup once and been beaten cup finalists. They've been relagated to the second tier, which when viewed in the context of the last 40 odd years, is their natural station. scumbags.
Cincy USA Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Why is it only a "level playing field" for the Skates when they are playing downhill?
sussexsaint Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Anything more from the court room - won't work here?
Gemmel Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Help me out fella's. Sat by a pool in Spain, drinking an ice cold pint and going through the pain barrier with the sun burn. Can't quite work out where the whole case is at - quick summary needed, how did HMRC do Cheers
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Yeh, I got one through posting as Southsea
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Their fans shamelessness knows no bounds. On one hand, you've got those giving the v's and telling HMRC they should be thankful for 20p in the pound. Then on the other hand, you've got the whingers, bemoaning how hard done by they've been. Unreal.
bolo Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 gemmel ask again in 2 hours. Nobody knows! The evidence is all over the place. But by all accounts Pompey are shooting themselves in the for by admitting to advanced parachute payments that have also been included in the cva calcs. I big fiddle basically...
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Anything more from the court room - won't work here? Nowt from the news or twitter
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Help me out fella's. Sat by a pool in Spain, drinking an ice cold pint and going through the pain barrier with the sun burn. Can't quite work out where the whole case is at - quick summary needed, how did HMRC do Cheers Various reports and opinions, from mine of' they will get away with it', to they are toast. So no real change. i don't think anyone is sure, and we keep jumping from they are doomed to ,the HMRC (barrister) have not done a very good job
Cincy USA Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 I'll help pass the time with this revelation... an anagram of "Andrew Andronikou" is "Nino, our ****** dad"
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 the news Mark: The court has adjourned to try to sort out whether Kevin Prince Boateng and other players were entitled to vote at the creditors' meeting on June 17. Mr Sheldon, for Pompey, claimed player was perfectly entitled to vote under the terms of reference for the Company Voluntary Agreement to make a claim for £1.3m which would be owed to him over the rest of his contract .
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 so it is down to the finer points now. A very important stage I'd have thought
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Help me out fella's. Sat by a pool in Spain, drinking an ice cold pint and going through the pain barrier with the sun burn. Can't quite work out where the whole case is at - quick summary needed, how did HMRC do Cheers From my opinion, it's been a bit weird really. Unexpected openings by both defence and prosecution, HMRC throwing a lot of (justifiable) mud at Pompey, Pompey throwing a lot of unjustifiable mud at everyone else (and admitted the PL bailed them out last year...).... still inconclusive what will happen, as far as I can tell...
Burger Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Help me out fella's. Sat by a pool in Spain, drinking an ice cold pint and going through the pain barrier with the sun burn. Can't quite work out where the whole case is at - quick summary needed, how did HMRC do Cheers HMRC 0 Pompey 1 - yesterday afternoon. This morning HMRC equalised and took the lead. Currently HMRC 2 Pompey 1. Pompey now have the ball and we are waiting to see what happens - hopefully an own goal or two
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 [Comment From BigBearPFC ] HMRC are on thin ground to win this, and this Judge will see sense and that they have been wasting his and everyone else's time and money. About time the HMRC got put in their place Unreal
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 [Comment From BigBearPFC ] HMRC are on thin ground to win this, and this Judge will see sense and that they have been wasting his and everyone else's time and money. About time the HMRC got put in their place Unreal How dare HMRC try to recover what is owed to them!
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Mark: The court has adjourned to try to sort out whether Kevin Prince Boateng and other players were entitled to vote at the creditors' meeting on June 17. Mr Sheldon, for Pompey, claimed player was perfectly entitled to vote under the terms of reference for the Company Voluntary Agreement to make a claim for £1.3m which would be owed to him over the rest of his contract .
sussexsaint Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 [Comment From BigBearPFC ] HMRC are on thin ground to win this, and this Judge will see sense and that they have been wasting his and everyone else's time and money. About time the HMRC got put in their place Unreal Indeed would like to see a little more contrition Tried sending contrition - sorrow for sin arising from fear of damnation Didn't get through
Gingeletiss Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Sue is this? 14:58 [Comment From GarglingBoyle GarglingBoyle : ] I don't understand why the players wouldn't get to vote. Without them we might not have got the CVA passed. Am I missing something? PUP
dronskisaint Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Gargling Boyle...classic! I finally got one on as APUP....go for capitals or Alan's initials?
Gingeletiss Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 So Hull's future is the next 48 hours, we saw this coming! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1300094/Hull-chief-Russell-Bartlett-denies-Tigers-verge-administration.html
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 My Steve More An-dover is still being accepted..lets hope its displayed
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Can't see anything from "Fishy Fingers Francesca" at the moment
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 So Hull's future is the next 48 hours, we saw this coming! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1300094/Hull-chief-Russell-Bartlett-denies-Tigers-verge-administration.html I notice that they may withhold payments due to the foreign clubs. Should have done the same last season, but of course that would have sent Pomepy over the edge and the PL can't have that can they
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 I notice that they may withhold payments due to the foreign clubs. Should have done the same last season, but of course that would have sent Pomepy over the edge and the PL can't have that can they But this must be one of the crucial issues in this case. Are the TV/parachute payments 'assets' of the company or not? If they are paid early, or diverted to pay another creditor at a time when a club is in administration or subject to a possible winding-up order, then how does this square with all unsecured creditors being treated equally?
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 [Comment From TCWTB. ] HMRC clearly don't have a case. Let's get this appeal thrown out so that we can use the parachute payments for a new stadium and a promotion push! PUP! That is superb, whoever that is
Bourno Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 danroan Problems for Pompey in High Court: seems some football creditors who voted for CVA may not have been 'creditors'. CVA may be in doubt
Torres Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 danroan Problems for Pompey in High Court: seems some football creditors who voted for CVA may not have been 'creditors'. CVA may be in doubt Start the Dualit.
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Mark: When the hearing resumed Mr Sheldon told the judge: 'The players clearly have an interest in the Company Voluntary Agreement. 'If the CVA was approved the players would be paid for the continuation of their contracts. 'That has a real benefit to the players because they are continued to be paid at Premier League levels [via Premiership cash made as parachute payments] whereas if they are paid by CVA funds the players become free agents, their contracts are terminated and they become unsecured creditors of the company for the unexpired portion of their existing contracts. 'This means they would lose the benefits of their existing contracts,' he added. Earlier Mr Sheldon said Pompey received an £11m parachute payment from the Premier League between December 24, 2009, and January 31 this year. There was a further payment of £1.5m between February 1 and February 26 and another of £1.7m after the club went into administration. Dirty, cheating....
Chin Strain Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 My TCWTB2 isn't getting through. let's see if I have more luck with C ockermouth Blue
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 the news : Mark: When the hearing resumed Mr Sheldon told the judge: 'The players clearly have an interest in the Company Voluntary Agreement. 'If the CVA was approved the players would be paid for the continuation of their contracts. 'That has a real benefit to the players because they are continued to be paid at Premier League levels [via Premiership cash made as parachute payments] whereas if they are paid by CVA funds the players become free agents, their contracts are terminated and they become unsecured creditors of the company for the unexpired portion of their existing contracts. 'This means they would lose the benefits of their existing contracts,' he added. Earlier Mr Sheldon said Pompey received an £11m parachute payment from the Premier League between December 24, 2009, and January 31 this year. There was a further payment of £1.5m between February 1 and February 26 and another of £1.7m after the club went into administration.
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Is the fat lady warming up or am I getting ahead of myself?
St Columb Saint Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Quick question for the brainy ones amongst us. If Pompey were receiving payments from the EPL to carry on playing does that leave a door open to sue the league and FA for clubs that lost points or were knocked out of the FA cup?
Trader Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 They definitely weren't relegated in January, so how come they qualified for parachute payments? No wonder the other clubs wanted them thrown out! Is Susan Boyle actually booked for a gig at FP tonight?
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Mark: When the hearing resumed Mr Sheldon told the judge: 'The players clearly have an interest in the Company Voluntary Agreement. 'If the CVA was approved the players would be paid for the continuation of their contracts. 'That has a real benefit to the players because they are continued to be paid at Premier League levels [via Premiership cash made as parachute payments] whereas if they are paid by CVA funds the players become free agents, their contracts are terminated and they become unsecured creditors of the company for the unexpired portion of their existing contracts. 'This means they would lose the benefits of their existing contracts,' he added. Earlier Mr Sheldon said Pompey received an £11m parachute payment from the Premier League between December 24, 2009, and January 31 this year. There was a further payment of £1.5m between February 1 and February 26 and another of £1.7m after the club went into administration. Dirty, cheating.... So the footballers get to vote for the CVA so they get their contracts paid up fully, while all others in the CVA get 20%, as opposed to not agreeing the CVA (in the hope of getting more for the creditors) and getting 100% of their monies owed, as football creditors. Win win all round for the FCSBs.
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 (edited) Thier "interest" in the CVA vote was about future earnings, the cva was a vote about past earnings/debts? That sheldon point is irrelevent? Edited 4 August, 2010 by tony13579
Gingeletiss Posted 4 August, 2010 Posted 4 August, 2010 Quick question for the brainy ones amongst us. If Pompey were receiving payments from the EPL to carry on playing does that leave a door open to sue the league and FA for clubs that lost points or were knocked out of the FA cup? I'dsay so, as they were clearly supporting a team financialy, who were insolvent!
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