Wes Tender Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Personally, I am still of the opine that Ali Al Faraj's real name is Arkadi Gaydamak; or at least that AAF was following AG's orders. More or less what this Skate says in The News: Steve W1, 20/03/2010 08:57:30 When will the penny drop that THE one and only reason the tax man wasn't paid was so we would be taken to court and threatened to be folded, and the reason Chainrai wasn't or never even attempted to be paid was so he could use the clauses in his contracts to force us to the point where we had no choice but to go into Administration!imo That was the only way he could enjoy his PERSONAL vengeance against the Gaydamacs! Chainrai has orchestrated our downfall since he/Al Faraj gained power.imo The Guardian were rumoured to be running a story on the whole dirty affair but i can only assume there solicitors advised against it as there may not have been enough concrete evidence to prove it so didn't fancy being sued.if all is not above board It will come out and soon i hope. PUP They're a bit slow off the mark there, mind you. Because of the perspective that we are afforded by reviewing the situation at arm's length, this theory had been expounded on here some time ago, along with other credible alternatives such as it being an exercise in money laundering, or a device to obtain development land in the heart of Skatesville. Now that this guy has expounded this theory, it begins to gain credence with other Skates, but all they had to do if they wished to be kept up to speed on all of the ins and outs, possibilities, improbabilities, legal standpoints , etc, was to come on here, where Hampshire's football intelligentsia post (well, excluding Corporate Ho, obviously)
Weston Saint Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Administrator-aims-to-pay-off.6167834.jp
saint_mears Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Storrie more or less admitting that Arkadi Gaydamak was the real owner in that telegraph article.
Guided Missile Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Storrie more or less admitting that Arkadi Gaydamak was the real owner in that telegraph article. I think the bigger news is that the HMRC case against him is in his capacity of CEO rather than a personal tax issue. That'll be a 20 point deduction, then...
buctootim Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 How can AA be very confident of agreeing a CVA if negotiations havent even commenced yet? Nonsense. Asked by The News how confident he was about reaching a Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) with creditors before this season ends, Mr Andronikou said: 'I'm very confident. 'It's our absolute focus. We are looking for the CVA to be in place around May or June time.' Negotiations with all the club's creditors are close to commencing.
View From The Top Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 AA is just talking the talk as is his job. Like AA most of us understand that they are fu©ked.
Tamesaint Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Administrator-aims-to-pay-off.6167834.jp Hmmm. I think AA is still busy telling them what he thinks they want to hear rather than what he thinks. HMRCE will never agree to a CVA unless they recieve 100 pence in the pound. I know that. Most of the osters on this thread know that. Perhaps someone should inform the Android!!
buctootim Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 That Telegraph interview sounds like Storrie in "come and get me. I'll spill all the beans to save myself plea" to me.
bridge too far Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Sounds like Storrie in "come and get me. I'll spill all the beans to save myself plea" to me. And 'If I'm going down, I'm going to drag every other bugger down with me'
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/portsmouth/7481807/Portsmouths-Peter-Storrie-pure-hatred-has-been-put-around-about-me.html From that article: "I think one of the reasons why they bought Portsmouth was because the Premier League was so high profile. Because the father had had some bad publicity, they saw this as a way of protecting the son and cleaning the Gaydamak name a little bit.'' Arcadi's exit from Israel sent waves rolling up the Solent. " One has to laugh! Arkadi Gaydamak: Alleged gun runner, crook, arms dealer and PCFC owner. That's one hell of a soiled C.V.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 IS he actually intellectually challenged? . . .. ..By his own words, Probably the worst CEO in British Business History If Carling did worst CEO's?
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 I saw another thread where thay said they would buy an extra balti pie on match day, futile! £80,000,000,debt devided by 20,000 fans= £4,000 each :smt050 That's a lot of tricks worth for the 'laydeez' in Turk Town
Fowllyd Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 From that article: "I think one of the reasons why they bought Portsmouth was because the Premier League was so high profile. Because the father had had some bad publicity, they saw this as a way of protecting the son and cleaning the Gaydamak name a little bit.'' Arcadi's exit from Israel sent waves rolling up the Solent. " One has to laugh! Arkadi Gaydamak: Alleged gun runner, crook, arms dealer and PCFC owner. That's one hell of a soiled C.V. I think that comment is an early front-runner for the euphemism of the year award!
Faz Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 (edited) "I think one of the reasons why they bought Portsmouth was because the Premier League was so high profile. Because the father had had some bad publicity, they saw this as a way of protecting the son and cleaning the Gaydamak money a little bit[/b].'' Arcadi's exit from Israel sent waves rolling up the Solent. " I'm sure this is what he meant to say. He's now admitting he knew it was Daddy's money - I'm sure he will be able to show how he shared those suspicions with the PL. He's complicit in everything that happened down there, and will be joining them in the toaster. Unless, of course, he's prepared to risk upsetting the gangsters by turning Queen's evidence - he knows where the bodies are burried, that's f'sure. Edited 20 March, 2010 by Faz
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Storrie left West Ham, Southend and Notts County under a cloud, now it looks like he's leaving the Skates in the same manner. The press in this Country go on about greed in the game and then go softly softly on a chancer like Storrie.
SnailOB Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Storrie left West Ham, Southend and Notts County under a cloud, now it looks like he's leaving the Skates in the same manner. The press in this Country go on about greed in the game and then go softly softly on a chancer like Storrie. Prime example of whats wrong with the modern game. Yes we dislike pompey, and now they will be hit with points deduction due to admin and will probably spend a good number of years in the wilderness (or disappear all together) BUT what punishment will Storrie get ? Which club is next ? Just like Peter Risdale another one that pops up, takes his cut from football and then f*cks over fans hopes ! Of course Pompey deserved points deduction etc.. but who really suffers (and forget the pompey/saints divide for a moment). The players will move -loyalty means nothing, Grant will find another club, Storrie more than took his share SO is football properly policing itself - obviously no. Storrie needs punishing - running off with one of the biggest salaries for a CEO in football isn't punishment.
bridge too far Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Has this interesting article been posted already? http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/mattslater/2010/03/taxman_beats_tactical_retreat.html Sorry if it has - I'm not 'here' for 2 days a week and I haven't got time to trawl
Jimmy_D Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00rh7p0/Sport_Relief_2010_Part_3/ 1 hour 31 minutes in... Mock the Week special. When comedians are using Pompey as material on national telly, you know it's bad! Back when we were having our troubles, we often said that our club was a national laughing stock... But now that Andy Parsons has joked about them on national TV, they really ARE a national laughing stock lol
aintforever Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 That Telegraph interview sounds like Storrie in "come and get me. I'll spill all the beans to save myself plea" to me. Spilling the beans on Gaydamak might help save his ass but it's probably not in PFC's interests to annoy the biggest creditor who owns all the land around their ground.
mcjwills Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Back when we were having our troubles, we often said that our club was a national laughing stock... But now that Andy Parsons has joked about them on national TV, they really ARE a national laughing stock lol Missus had sky+ed it and when it came on even she peed herself with laughter.
dubai_phil Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Spilling the beans on Gaydamak might help save his ass but it's probably not in PFC's interests to annoy the biggest creditor who owns all the land around their ground. Lol. Oh no it won't... Just revisit that statement - Spilling the beans on the inside dodgy dealings of a convicted Arms Dealer who is bound to have friends in the various mafias around the world, when your motor car & it's number plate have been shown on world wide TV and when everyone knows you live in Hayling Island and your address can be found by a trip to the planning department. Yeah, spilling the beans on The Mob, that'll save his ass....
ericofarabia Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Lol. Oh no it won't... Just revisit that statement - Spilling the beans on the inside dodgy dealings of a convicted Arms Dealer who is bound to have friends in the various mafias around the world, when your motor car & it's number plate have been shown on world wide TV and when everyone knows you live in Hayling Island and your address can be found by a trip to the planning department. Yeah, spilling the beans on The Mob, that'll save his ass.... A Cap in his Ass fo sure
Amesbury Saint Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 good start for them on the pitch hull - 1 up
andysstuff Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Ha ha they won,it really might be hope that finally kills them.
Saint_clark Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Trying to explain to a couple of Skates on another forum why O'Hara and Quincy shouldn't have been allowed to sign for them. It's like trying throw a rope round the sun.
charliemiller Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 One person is behind the downfall of Portsmouth. It has all been orchestrated by .... The same person who introduced Gaydamak to the club in the first place. The same person who is a personal friend of Avram Grant. The same person who is a personal friend Gaydamak senior. The same person who has benifited from agent fees on 90% of the overseas transfers. The same person who tried to divert the blame on the ARAB world by making up a buyer called AL FARAJ whilst employing a jewish manager(his Friend), plus a Jewish Lawyer and fraudulent (jewish) accountant. Do a couple of Google searches on this man and pair it with Portsmouth, Gaydamak and Avram Grant. Makes a very very interesting read. The person ......Pini Zahavi Super Agent/Meddler. All my personal opinion of course , but it all adds up if you do a few searches.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Trying to explain to a couple of Skates on another forum why O'Hara and Quincy shouldn't have been allowed to sign for them. It's like trying throw a rope round the sun. TBF trying to explain anything to skates is near on impossible.. all a bit thick down there...
Saint J 77 Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Nothing quite like a Skate victory to sour a good Saints Win, oh well lets hope chelsea bring them back down to earth with a big bump.
TopGun Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Telegraph article again. As he moves into an uncertain future, Storrie takes heart from the messages of support. "I had a lovely text from David Gill. I want to stay in football. I've a lot to give. I had a phone call from someone saying: 'it wouldn't surprise me if you get a call from the Government, who want to look into the financial structures of football'. I'm not sure whether Telegraph writer Henry Winter or Peter Storrie is the bigger fool.
Saint in Paradise Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Administrator-aims-to-pay-off.6167834.jp At least 75 per cent of creditors must agree to a set rate of repayment for the CVA to be upheld and it is thought HMRC will drive a hard bargain. Mr Andronikou said: 'They may start by asking for 100 pence in the pound and then drop down. AA cannot really believe that surely :D:D
Panda Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Telegraph article again. As he moves into an uncertain future, Storrie takes heart from the messages of support. "I had a lovely text from David Gill. I want to stay in football. I've a lot to give. I had a phone call from someone saying: 'it wouldn't surprise me if you get a call from the Government, who want to look into the financial structures of football'. I'm not sure whether Telegraph writer Henry Winter or Peter Storrie is the bigger fool. Has he not already had a call from the government? Her Majesties pleasure could await when HMRC take an even greater look into the financial structures of football, especially where Mr Storrie and PCFC are concerned. Remind me, when is he due in court again?
Saint_clark Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 TBF trying to explain anything to skates is near on impossible.. all a bit thick down there... They were struggling to follow me so much that they just banned me
NickG Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 no-one has shown proof of fund no-one any further forward than they were on Monday still optimistic
Channon's Sideburns Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 no-one has shown proof of fund no-one any further forward than they were on Monday still optimistic It's going well then. As I said before....no-one's interested. Or if they were, they weren't after they saw the figures involved. Still think this 'Lloyd Consortium' is a smokescreen...to pretend it's sellable.
sidthesquid Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 It's going well then. As I said before....no-one's interested. Or if they were, they weren't after they saw the figures involved. Still think this 'Lloyd Consortium' is a smokescreen...to pretend it's sellable. I'd like to think that was the case because we so comprehensively dissed it on here that the smoke blew away in double time and Mr Android had to beat a hasty retreat.
Chez Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 no-one has shown proof of fund no-one any further forward than they were on Monday still optimistic Lloyd stated that he had shown proof of funds on the Quay on Thursday.
Jimmy_D Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 I get the feeling Pompey are about to give us the starkest example possible of what would have happened to us without Markus bailing us out... I still don't think any of us can really see just how incredibly lucky we were to find our owner in the economic climate we were in. Pompey are in a far worse position financially, with fewer assets, and in an even worse economic climate... The only way I can see them possibly getting out of it is if someone has already made their money, and wants a challenge to spend it on, something to build from the ground up, somewhat like playing as Eastleigh on FM, and because there ARE a few people out there like that, they've still got the tiniest bit of hope. Barring that though... are we really going to see the end of Pompey?
Channon's Sideburns Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1259508/Owners-battle-Premier-League-Portsmouths-TV-millions.html Oh dear.... :-D
Matthew Le God Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Lloyd stated that he had shown proof of funds on the Quay on Thursday. He also stated that he doesn't court publicity. Yet...he goes on Quay radio, meets fans with press "around", talks to SSN and also goes on Secret Millionaire on Channel Four which is basically a look at me and how nice and generous I am program.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 He also stated that he doesn't court publicity. Yet...he goes on Quay radio, meets fans with press "around", talks to SSN and also goes on Secret Millionaire on Channel Four which is basically a look at me and how nice and generous I am program. Lloyd is Pompey's very own Pinnacle. End of.
dubai_phil Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Hmmm Pin Zhavi Think the one or two few with brains need to turn their attention As well as the media. Not the first time I've seen someone unconnected come up with that name And lol at the Mail article
dubai_phil Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Lloyd is Pompey's very own Pinnacle. End of. And who was it that told them that? Who was it that checked history versus what was being said? Yes, that's right, the World's foremost football M&A experts, This thread. Good news is we are now in negotiations with Keith Harris as their contracted experts. Hopefully this means that allegedly The Seaview & Unit 1 will no longer be the only parts of the world with a monopoly on fluffy yellow chicks. Oops sorry am I not allowed to say that? I apologise to Orville
Channon's Sideburns Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Hmmm Pin Zhavi Think the one or two few with brains need to turn their attention As well as the media. Not the first time I've seen someone unconnected come up with that name And lol at the Mail article Hmmmmm.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1084015/Super-agent-Zahavi-poised-Portsmouth-takeover.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pini_Zahavi
Chez Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 He also stated that he doesn't court publicity. Yet...he goes on Quay radio, meets fans with press "around", talks to SSN and also goes on Secret Millionaire on Channel Four which is basically a look at me and how nice and generous I am program. That might be so but has the administrator denied/confirmed that proof of funds has taken place?
solentstars Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1259508/Owners-battle-Premier-League-Portsmouths-TV-millions.html Oh dear.... :-Dit keeps on getting better,
dubai_phil Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Hmmmmm.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1084015/Super-agent-Zahavi-poised-Portsmouth-takeover.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pini_Zahavi As Charlie Miller said TBF And my comment, precisely.
Saint_clark Posted 20 March, 2010 Posted 20 March, 2010 Looks like Zahavi is the orchestrator of everything that's happened then.
buctootim Posted 21 March, 2010 Posted 21 March, 2010 I get the feeling Pompey are about to give us the starkest example possible of what would have happened to us without Markus bailing us out... I still don't think any of us can really see just how incredibly lucky we were to find our owner in the economic climate we were in. Pompey are in a far worse position financially, with fewer assets, and in an even worse economic climate... The only way I can see them possibly getting out of it is if someone has already made their money, and wants a challenge to spend it on, something to build from the ground up, somewhat like playing as Eastleigh on FM, and because there ARE a few people out there like that, they've still got the tiniest bit of hope. Barring that though... are we really going to see the end of Pompey? I think the current owners reckon they persuade creditors to take a small slice of what they are owed, then buy the club out of admin, sell the ground and players, recoup as much of what they owed as possible, then walk away. I guess the club will survive in some form but royally you know whatted for years.
SnailOB Posted 21 March, 2010 Posted 21 March, 2010 after all the talk about the failed 'fit and proper persons test' and the scrutiny that its under, would the current owners be able to buy the club again ?
Matthew Le God Posted 21 March, 2010 Posted 21 March, 2010 Always thought he was dodgy... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/portsmouth/article7069905.ece
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