St Marco Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Have to agree with that. They have gone home for the evening now which means no more negotiations tonight. So tomorrow they will play a very very dangerous game. Either spend the 2hrs before the case trying to broker a deal. And if succesful they survive, if it fails they go into the court case having not prepared for it and thus get ripped apart. or With the 2hrs left file for admin and pray it is accepted. Think it is 99.999999% likely they will enter admin tomorrow morning.
SO16_Saint Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 So is there anyway that at some point tomorrow PFC will be no more and sats match will be canx?
St Marco Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 So is there anyway that at some point tomorrow PFC will be no more and sats match will be canx? If Portsmouth go to the HMRC case at 11.30 without a deal in place the judge could order them to be wound up. Which means they go into liquidation, meaning they are no more.
Joensuu Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 So is there anyway that at some point tomorrow PFC will be no more and sats match will be canx? If the club is put immeadiately into liquidation the game wouldn't go ahead. As Pompey haven't yet gone into Admin, and they haven't yet brokered a deal with HMRC, the likelihood that the game on Saturday will be cancelled has increased. However I still think it is about 90% likely to go ahead.
fromdayone Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 They have gone home for the evening now Source?
Matthew Le God Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Merdian News completely ignored the story tonight. Fred burying his head in the sand hoping it goes away?
Weston Saint Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Have to agree with that. They have gone home for the evening now which means no more negotiations tonight. So tomorrow they will play a very very dangerous game. Either spend the 2hrs before the case trying to broker a deal. And if succesful they survive, if it fails they go into the court case having not prepared for it and thus get ripped apart. or With the 2hrs left file for admin and pray it is accepted. Think it is 99.999999% likely they will enter admin tomorrow morning. It is all about negotiation tomorrow. Both sides will form a position overnight and negotiations will commence again at the court door tomorrow. I have only once done a deal at the court door and only because a senior high court judge had hinted he preferred the other sides evidence. They wanted £2.4m I had paid in £300,000. Negotiated at £980,000 even sending a note to the judge at the time of the hearing to stay in his chambers as a deal was likely. He simply approved the order we drew up later in the morning. Never liked court door negotiation because most of the costs incurred by then but it has it's place. Would not like to be the PFC barrister tomorrow though
Katalinic Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Merdian News completely ignored the story tonight. Fred burying his head in the sand hoping it goes away? Probably running with a story about something happening in Kent.
Katalinic Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Never liked court door negotiation because most of the costs incurred by then but it has it's place. Would not like to be the PFC barrister tomorrow though Nor me, just imagine, even if they win they might not get paid.
miserableoldgit Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Merdian News completely ignored the story tonight. Fred burying his head in the sand hoping it goes away? Strangely they didn`t seem to have any "Sport" at all. There are 3 big games in our area tonight. Nothing mentioned.:confused:
bridge too far Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Grosvenor Basingstoke have dropped their participation in the WUP because they've been paid.
Matthew Le God Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Grosvenor Basingstoke have dropped their participation in the WUP because they've been paid. It is still there on the high court website. Possibly just not been updated, but also the BBC could be wrong.
St Marco Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Source? A guy on SSN said as things stand tonight no deal had been done. I took that to mean they had gone home.
JackFrost Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Spare a moment's thought for Chester City. According to the beeb their game tonight has been called off because the Chester players refused to get on the team bus as they'd only received 1 week's pay in the last 3 months.
$$$ Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 It is still there on the high court website. Possibly just not been updated, but also the BBC could be wrong. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/Pompey-Talks-with-HMRC-are.6056538.jp "The News understands that even if a deal is agreed tonight between Pompey and HMRC, the High Court hearing will go ahead as a formality - even if it is to close the case." Guess it would be the same for Grosvenor Basingstoke.
Crab Lungs Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 If they won't reach an agreement, put the club into admin. They won't get a penny. Money grabbing bully boys. HMRC.....foxtrot oscar back to the hole u cam from!. Er, I'm sorry.... who is in the wrong here? How stupid can people be. You owe the money, dickheads...
bridge too far Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Er, I'm sorry.... who is in the wrong here? How stupid can people be. You owe the money, dickheads... And additionally - you owe all of US the money!
gaz Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Spare a moment's thought for Chester City. According to the beeb their game tonight has been called off because the Chester players refused to get on the team bus as they'd only received 1 week's pay in the last 3 months. Yep. Only 9 players were prepared to play, and they had to forfeit for being unable to play the match. http://www.devachat.com/index.php?showtopic=61363
OldNick Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Er, I'm sorry.... who is in the wrong here? How stupid can people be. You owe the money, dickheads...if it meant that Pompey not paying the HMRC that his and sister the mother to his children was not going to get her dole and credits he'd think differently.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Awford is delusional. 'I don't think we'll go out of business' Yeah right pal, pay up.
dune Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 If Portsmouth go to the HMRC case at 11.30 without a deal in place the judge could order them to be wound up. Which means they go into liquidation, meaning they are no more. I so hope this comes to pass. I'll be grinning from ear to ear for weeks.
ericofarabia Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 One rule for one and another rule for another :cool: Chester, who are up for sale for just £1, started the season with a 25-point deduction in the Conference standings and have until March 10 to ward off a winding-up order by paying £26,125 to HM Revenue & Customs.
hutch Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 I've got the skate game live on the satellite here. They've just come out, so they are still in business at the moment (or if they aren't, Storrie hasn't told Avram yet). Kenwyne's in the Sunderland side. Hat-trick?
pedg Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 (edited) I've got the skate game live on the satellite here. They've just come out, so they are still in business at the moment (or if they aren't, Storrie hasn't told Avram yet). Kenwyne's in the Sunderland side. Hat-trick? They found 50p to pay for the electricity for the floodlights then? Edited 9 February, 2010 by pedg
andysstuff Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 I've got the skate game live on the satellite here. They've just come out, so they are still in business at the moment (or if they aren't, Storrie hasn't told Avram yet). Kenwyne's in the Sunderland side. Hat-trick? Packed ground is it - seeing as they have greatest supporters in the world, I'm guessing they are all there to vive as much support as possible!
TopGun Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 It is all about negotiation tomorrow. Both sides will form a position overnight and negotiations will commence again at the court door tomorrow. I have only once done a deal at the court door and only because a senior high court judge had hinted he preferred the other sides evidence. They wanted £2.4m I had paid in £300,000. Negotiated at £980,000 even sending a note to the judge at the time of the hearing to stay in his chambers as a deal was likely. He simply approved the order we drew up later in the morning. Never liked court door negotiation because most of the costs incurred by then but it has it's place. Would not like to be the PFC barrister tomorrow though I once had a similar experience. I had taken a company to court for £10K they owed me. They blagged and blagged, hired a barrister who attempted to head me off at the pass (the court door) with a £3K offer. I nearly bottled it but held firm. Got my £10K. Not nice though.
hutch Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 (edited) Sunderland 1-0 up. Penalty, & Rocha sent off. Edited 9 February, 2010 by hutch Should have put my specs on.
Hatch Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Sunderland 1-0 up. Penalty, & Yebda sent off. life is sweet
SW5 SAINT Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Reading in one of the papers(the guardian I think) today that poopey employ 600 people and are the 2nd largest employer in the city - I don't whats more astonishing poopey employing 600 people, or that they are the 2nd biggest employer in the city ( I conclude MoD must be the largest)
bridge too far Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Reading in one of the papers(the guardian I think) today that poopey employ 600 people and are the 2nd largest employer in the city - I don't whats more astonishing poopey employing 600 people, or that they are the 2nd biggest employer in the city ( I conclude MoD must be the largest) The hospital employs 7,000 and goodness knows how many the council employs
Foxy Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Packed ground is it - seeing as they have greatest supporters in the world, I'm guessing they are all there to vive as much support as possible! Well they're 1 down already. Not Big Ken though. But we're winning which will cheer them up no end as if they go out of business I guess they will probably start supporting us on mass, being their local club :grin:
Delmary Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Well they're 1 down already. Not Big Ken though. But we're winning which will cheer them up no end as if they go out of business I guess they will probably start supporting us on mass, being their local club :grin:Please god no!
gaz Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 (edited) Sounds like Pompy are clueless against a poor Sunderland side, they are diving/jumping at anything and the crowd are near silent. Even Avram's run on the pitch to complain to the ref just before the end of the half, and as the half time whistle went.... Having to put up with Jackie Oakley and Steve Claridge on 5Live Extra commentary. --Edit In a mo they are having an interview with Neil Allen from the Pompy local rag. Edited 9 February, 2010 by gaz
gaz Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Neil Allen: ''match v Sunderland - should have been a penalty, baffling decisions from the ref, sent off the wrong player until guilty one admitted it'' ''winding up order - club still confident of getting it overturned but are still in talks....Storrie and Jacob at the match tonight. Nothing sorted out, everyone waiting and nobody knows anything apart from those two and HMRC. Club owes £5m and have offered £1.8m plus installments guarenteed against future investment, and have to try and convince HMRC that someone s coming along to pay up. Vibrant club with fantastic supporters, tremendous supporters and will be a queue of buyers if they go into admin despite the ground/training facilities. Chanrai/Gaydamek don't want admin and are trying v.hard to sell. If club gets stay of execution from HMRC, they'll go into admin straight away but will come out fine, local businesses won't be though and some will not survive. Fans resigned to admin and relegation. Fans hate all the people connected over the past few years, can't point blame finger at any one person and don't know where the money went'' Paraphrased, of course. And Avram is sent to the stand for the second half.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Neil Allen: ''match v Sunderland - should have been a penalty, baffling decisions from the ref, sent off the wrong player until guilty one admitted it'' ''winding up order - club still confident of getting it overturned but are still in talks....Storrie and Jacob at the match tonight. Nothing sorted out, everyone waiting and nobody knows anything apart from those two and HMRC. Club owes £5m and have offered £1.8m plus installments guarenteed against future investment, and have to try and convince HMRC that someone s coming along to pay up. Vibrant club with fantastic supporters, tremendous supporters and will be a queue of buyers if they go into admin despite the ground/training facilities. Chanrai/Gaydamek don't want admin and are trying v.hard to sell. If club gets stay of execution from HMRC, they'll go into admin straight away but will come out fine, local businesses won't be though and some will not survive. Fans resigned to admin and relegation. Fans hate all the people connected over the past few years, can't point blame finger at any one person and don't know where the money went'' Paraphrased, of course. And Avram is sent to the stand for the second half. You'd think Storrie and Jacobs would be holed up in London preparing wouldn't you? Oh, this is Pompey. One last chance to large it up in front of a paltry crowd I guess.
Crab Lungs Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 (edited) They found 50p to pay for the electricity for the floodlights then? Chainrai is hand feeding them himself into the meter. ;-) Edited 9 February, 2010 by Crab Lungs
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 The hospital employs 7,000 and goodness knows how many the council employs Not too mention BAE in the dockyard and the RN. The vast majority of those Pompey 600 will be very part time e.g. stewards etc
Pancake Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Sundeland are hammering the Pompey goal but no additional goals as yet
Crab Lungs Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 To be fair to the Skates, as a city they do have the most freelance fortune tellers, tarmaccers and fairground folk.
gaz Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 David Meyler sent off seconds after coming on, elbowing. Sunderland down to 9.
gaz Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Pompy level, Dindane, 1-1. Arse. 6th min of added time or something ridculous.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 Mind you... FOOK POOPEY, WE'RE GOING TO WEMBLEY!!!!!!!! ...and we won't go bankrupt afterwards either
sperm_john Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 lol @ the pompey players celebrating like they had won ...draws are no good for them at this stage...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 9 February, 2010 Posted 9 February, 2010 lol @ the pompey players celebrating like they had won ...draws are no good for them at this stage... Nah, they've probably heard that they'll be free agents in a few days... ;-)
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