BTW Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Grant May Still Quit according to most papers http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/portsmouth/article7008984.ece and Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/grant-mulls-position-as-kaboul-quits-1883599.html "Grant yesterday cancelled his weekly press conference in the wake of the Kaboul fiasco. Portsmouth desperately need some of the money from the Kaboul deal, which will bring in around £6m, to cover the players' monthly wage bill of £1.8m, which was due yesterday. The funds, however, first have to go to the Premier League before they can be forwarded to Portsmouth" and Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/portsmouth/7104916/Avram-Grant-set-to-quit-as-Portsmouth-manager-after-clash-with-Manchester-City.html "In a further twist to Portsmouth's financial misery it emerged Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger is trying to gazump Tottenham in their pursuit of Begovic, delaying the Bosnian international's departure" and Mirror http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Avram-Grant-s-future-shrouded-in-doubt-after-he-refuses-to-guarantee-he-will-stay-at-Portsmouth-article305267.html Thats all for now BTW
Thedelldays Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 If Pompey go into admin in feb. How on earth will they be able to raise cash as the transfer window Would be shut? How could they survive admin...?
gaz Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 https://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/ Firefox gives me a lovely message when I click that link: http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/307/capturem.jpg
Joensuu Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 https://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/ Argos Trade Clearance?
Master Bates Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2831383/Harry-Avram-knew-about-it.html
dubai_phil Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Grant May Still Quit according to most papers http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/portsmouth/article7008984.ece and Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/grant-mulls-position-as-kaboul-quits-1883599.html "Grant yesterday cancelled his weekly press conference in the wake of the Kaboul fiasco. Portsmouth desperately need some of the money from the Kaboul deal, which will bring in around £6m, to cover the players' monthly wage bill of £1.8m, which was due yesterday. The funds, however, first have to go to the Premier League before they can be forwarded to Portsmouth" and Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/portsmouth/7104916/Avram-Grant-set-to-quit-as-Portsmouth-manager-after-clash-with-Manchester-City.html "In a further twist to Portsmouth's financial misery it emerged Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger is trying to gazump Tottenham in their pursuit of Begovic, delaying the Bosnian international's departure" and Mirror http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Avram-Grant-s-future-shrouded-in-doubt-after-he-refuses-to-guarantee-he-will-stay-at-Portsmouth-article305267.html Thats all for now BTW Add these to the Sun article, then read back a few pages on here to the radio interview on The Quay and you have clear evidence of a Company Director lieing in public. What else is he making up? Well done chaps
sidthesquid Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Is it fair to assume that - as it hasn't been fanfared by Poopey - they did not lodge an appeal against HMRC after all?
Thedelldays Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 lets hope they never get a day like this...
saint lard Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 lets hope they never get a day like this... That Video is damn good to watch now and again.
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 it's back as it should be now... i'd guess it was to eak more cash out of the skates...
OldNick Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Thats the best Skate web site yet. I just tried to find that link and got this This Connection is Untrusted You have asked Firefox to connect securely to http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified. What Should I Do? If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue. Technical Details http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: http://www.argosclearance.co.uk , argosclearance.co.uk (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) end quote) WTF?
Weston Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I just tried to find that link and got this This Connection is Untrusted You have asked Firefox to connect securely to http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified. What Should I Do? If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue. Technical Details http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: http://www.argosclearance.co.uk , argosclearance.co.uk (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) end quote) WTF? Yes Norton blocked me from accessing saying it was a security risk.
saintbletch Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I just tried to find that link and got this This Connection is Untrusted You have asked Firefox to connect securely to http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified. What Should I Do? If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue. Technical Details http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: http://www.argosclearance.co.uk , argosclearance.co.uk (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) end quote) WTF? Somebody has cleverly, and presumably maliciously, directed the https:// (secure http) certificate to the Argos trade sale web site. I guess it was some internet savvy Saints fan. Firefox and Norton are basically telling you rightly that you can't trust the certificate and that someone is trying to impersonate http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk.
Joensuu Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I can only imagine that somebody in Argos' IT dept is a skate... And that they can't be bothered to pay for a valid security certificate... Strange
OldNick Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Somebody has cleverly, and presumably maliciously, directed the https:// (secure http) certificate to the Argos trade sale web site. I guess it was some internet savvy Saints fan. Firefox and Norton are basically telling you rightly that you can't trust the certificate and that someone is trying to impersonate http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk. That is not a funny thing to do, although I suspect the person doing it thought it was. That will only serve for a tit for tat response from one of their fans to our club site.Its not on IMO
GenevaSaint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 That is not a funny thing to do, although I suspect the person doing it thought it was. That will only serve for a tit for tat response from one of their fans to our club site.Its not on IMO Get a grip will you Nick. Unless you specifically look for the SSL encrypted website (HTTPS) you won't get this link.
dronskisaint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 lets hope they never get a day like this... Thanks for the reminder...still brings a lump to my throat on a number of levels - brings home how near we came & how fortunate we are...am I the only one who still blubs when Peter Rodrigues lifts the cup?
Daren W Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 lets hope they never get a day like this... I will always rather be a scummer than a skate...
Tractor_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I can only imagine that somebody in Argos' IT dept is a skate... And that they can't be bothered to pay for a valid security certificate... Strange Nothing of the sort - something a little wrong in with the hosting company ukfast. Both argosclearance and portsmouthfc websites are installed on the same physical server at ukfast Non-authoritative answer: Name: http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk Address: 78.109.165.197 Non-authoritative answer: Name: http://www.argosclearance.co.uk Address: 78.109.165.197 Name: 78.109.165.197.srvlist.ukfast.net Address: 78.109.165.197 All a bit weird because the argos.co.uk site is hosted by a large computer company near Portsmouth and nothing to do with ukfast. Interesting that I can't find a link from the main Argos site to the clearance site. I have found the Argos Clearance link which isn't anything to do with the UKfast site. Curious.
greg_hill Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Latest BBC report says Stoke are now in for Bergovic for two million. That seems a knock down price. How much will it actually help the skates?
PaulSaint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 How many Pimpey fans would take this now: Narrow loss to SFC in FA Cup Relegated in bottom place But You start next year, still alive on zero points?
Johnny Shearer Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Think the skates will be ok unfortunately. The Premier League hasn't finalised television right for overseas yet (as stated in the Mail today) so there could be a lot of money coming in from that in the future.
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 the company that looks after the skate site looks after the argos clearance site...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 That their site has defaulting to an Argos clearance site is actually very, very funny.
Wibble Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Seems Grosvenor Basingstoke Properties LTD is The Duke of Westminster who wants rent for the Basingstoke shop. http://twitter.com/bbc_matt
dubai_phil Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Think the skates will be ok unfortunately. The Premier League hasn't finalised television right for overseas yet (as stated in the Mail today) so there could be a lot of money coming in from that in the future. Not next year, the Overseas TV rights package has already been sold. We will lose Showtime down here and it switched to Abu Dhabi Sports. Sp far we've had no word on how they plan to run it but many are concerned we'll lose English commentaries
saint lard Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 (edited) Kaboul deal to Spuds completed,apparently. http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Kaboul-Completes-Spurs-Switch-562.aspx Edited 30 January, 2010 by saint lard
hutch Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 DP - DSTV not available there? I've got 5 live PL games and one live CCC game today.
JackFrost Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Kaboul deal to Spuds completed,apparently. http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Kaboul-Completes-Spurs-Switch-562.aspx hm The Independent have reported the Kaboul deal is already completed
JackFrost Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/8489329.stm Kaboul to Spurs confirmed
St Marco Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 So they are saying it is a £6m-£7m deal of which Portsmouth will get around £3m-£4m due to the money they owe Spurs for buying him 1st time around. Of that they have to pay around £1.6m in wages which are due and £1.7m to Sol Campbell for the money he is owed. Meaning = £3.3m. So basically they sold him to pay a few bills but ultimatly it won't change a thing. They still have huge debts and have probably just lost the player who could of made them the most transfer money. Without someone with a lot of money paying some of their debts in the next week and a half they are gone.
Faz Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 So they are saying it is a £6m-£7m deal of which Portsmouth will get around £3m-£4m due to the money they owe Spurs for buying him 1st time around. Of that they have to pay around £1.6m in wages which are due and £1.7m to Sol Campbell for the money he is owed. Meaning = £3.3m. So basically they sold him to pay a few bills but ultimatly it won't change a thing. They still have huge debts and have probably just lost the player who could of made them the most transfer money. Without someone with a lot of money paying some of their debts in the next week and a half they are gone. Doubtless Kaboul is entitled to a cut, as he didn't ask for a move, and probabaly bonuses written into his contract. Oh, and some to be paid into a certain offshore a/c.............
St Chalet Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 and burnley equalise... sweet Cheers. I was recording the game to watch later. Have avoided every major news site, Radio 5 etc. but you felt the need to post it on this thread!
scally Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Has anybody got any idea what they are doing down there, the transfer window is just about to shut and from where I'm stood they need to get a shed load of money in to give them any kind of chance of making it untill the end of the season. The fire sale has not happened and what they have got in is just a **** in the ocean when you look at what they need to pay out. Are they being fecked over so the gun runner can get as much as of his money out before the curtains are drawn?
Chez Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 the wage bill is closer to £3m not £2m. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8446488.stm The £1.8m figure appearning in the papers derives from the fact they were £1.8m short teh first time they were paid late. The Kaboul money won't go far, no matter what Tells Stories says. Like he knows anything about the finances these days anyway.
Chez Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 (edited) Has anybody got any idea what they are doing down there, the transfer window is just about to shut and from where I'm stood they need to get a shed load of money in to give them any kind of chance of making it untill the end of the season. The fire sale has not happened and what they have got in is just a **** in the ocean when you look at what they need to pay out. Are they being fecked over so the gun runner can get as much as of his money out before the curtains are drawn? Tells stories said on Thursday that they had had no enquiries at all about any of their players apart from Spurs' enquiry about Kaboul and Begavic. You can't sell if you have no customers. Edited 30 January, 2010 by Chez
sidthesquid Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Cheers. I was recording the game to watch later. Have avoided every major news site, Radio 5 etc. but you felt the need to post it on this thread! Look away now if you don't want to know that Chelsea scored again
saint_mears Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Has anybody got any idea what they are doing down there, the transfer window is just about to shut and from where I'm stood they need to get a shed load of money in to give them any kind of chance of making it untill the end of the season. The fire sale has not happened and what they have got in is just a **** in the ocean when you look at what they need to pay out. Are they being fecked over so the gun runner can get as much as of his money out before the curtains are drawn? The gun runner has little say as any transfer money is going to the Premier League before they re-issue it accordingly.
scally Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Tells stories said on Thursday that they had had no enquiries at all about any of their players apart from Spurs' enquiry about Kaboul and Begavic. You can't sell if you have no customers. They won't last a month then, and may not even make the game at St Marys.
dubai_phil Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 DP - DSTV not available there? I've got 5 live PL games and one live CCC game today. They have it in most sports bars here Yep, have the dish, used to be able to get an "interesting" link to a web site to pick up the service. Otherwise it needs a friend to get a second smartcard for the decoder down your way. We also get the full range of PL games but the Cup & Lower League stuff switched to ART which is an Arabic service (with English commentary) but it's an extra 60 quid a month We'll find a way when the time comes
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1247400/Portsmouth-hit-Begovic-U-turn.html?ITO=1490 can you say "Hahahahaha" So the Kaboul money will be used to pay off "some" of the existing football debts due over the next few days... They still don't have the cash to pay the staff and players.... ---2nd of Feb in Admin anyone??
FarehamRed Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Ho dear.... ;-) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1247400/Portsmouth-hit-Begovic-U-turn.html Portsmouth were pushed closer to financial collapse last night after goalkeeper Asmir Begovic pulled out of a transfer to Tottenham. Although the club completed a deal to send defender Younes Kaboul back to White Hart Lane, they now face a race against time to find another buyer for Begovic and others in order to stave off the threats of administration and being wound up. When news broke that Begovic was unwilling to go to Tottenham, a Portsmouth insider said: 'This will kill the club.'
ringwood Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 but won't players be on installments or is reason for undisclosed fee that Spuds are getting a really cheap one off payment deal ?
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 SSN saying the fee was £5m for Kaboul.Lol what happend to the £11m those fish fiddling planks said he was worth. LMFAO :smt040
rpb Posted 31 January, 2010 Posted 31 January, 2010 It gets worse... http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/712008/GRANT-HAS-ONLY-BEEN-PAID-ONCE-BY-POMPEY.html
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 31 January, 2010 Posted 31 January, 2010 It gets better... http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/712008/GRANT-HAS-ONLY-BEEN-PAID-ONCE-BY-POMPEY.html Fixed it for you
Gigersaint Posted 31 January, 2010 Posted 31 January, 2010 (edited) Another interesting article stemming from the goings on at Pompey... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1247345/Ian-Ridley-Football-fiddling-finances-smoke.html And unfortunately for one person, someone to pay their debts http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/31/portsmouth-fan-told-pay-club-debts Edited 31 January, 2010 by Gigersaint
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