OVER THE HILL Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Chasing Jamie O'Hara again. Nice line here: "However, Pompey have identified the 27-year-old as a player to get them out of relegation trouble and are prepared to create the finances to capture him." http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/pompey-chasing-o-hara-swoop-1-5963883 Must be time to rob another charity.
CB Saint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 @pn_neil_allen: #Pompey chasing sensational swoop for Jamie O'Hara on emergency loan. http://t.co/lthTqaJx6d m.twitter.com/pn_neil_allen I didnt think the definition of emergency covered league position
Crazy Diamond Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Emergency loan. That good old other emergency service.
Waterside.saint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Chasing Jamie O'Hara again. Nice line here: "However, Pompey have identified the 27-year-old as a player to get them out of relegation trouble and are prepared to create the finances to capture him." http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/pompey-chasing-o-hara-swoop-1-5963883
TUS Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Emergency load rules: http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20130704/section-6-players_2293633_2125731#53 53.3 Emergency and Youth Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 52.2, Emergency Loan and Youth Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with the following provisions: 53.3.1 Notwithstanding the definition of Parent Club, Emergency and Youth Loans may only be concluded with clubs affiliated (directly or through County Football Associations) to the Football Association unless any club not so affiliated plays in any of the competitions set out in Regulation 53.2.1. 53.3.2 Emergency and Youth Loans are permitted both during the Transfer Windows and, subject to the provisions of Regulation 53.3.5, also during a Closed Period between Clubs (or, as applicable, clubs) in membership of The Football League, The Premier League and The Football Conference (Premier Division). 53.3.3 During the Transfer Windows, Emergency Loans and Youth Loans are also permitted between Clubs and, as applicable, clubs in membership of the Football Conference (North), Football Conference (South), Northern Premier League, the Isthmian League and Southern League providing the rules and regulations of the respective league so allow. Any Emergency Loan concluded in accordance with this Regulation may be renewed during a Closed Period provided the renewal is simultaneous with the expiry of the immediately preceding period of the Emergency Loan. 53.3.4 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulations 53.3.2 and 53.3.3, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan or Youth Loan: (a) during the period of seven days after the end of a Transfer Window; (b) in the first half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in November; and © in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 54. 53.3.5 Only: (a) Scholars who are in the second or third (if that option is exercised) year of their Scholarship Agreement; or (b) Contract Players aged 20 or under on 1st July immediately preceding the Season in question, may be registered on a Youth Loan. 53.3.6 It shall be a condition of any Youth Loan involving a Scholar, or a Contract Player who continues to qualify as an Academy Player, that for the duration of the period of the Youth Loan the Player continues to fully comply with the programme of education in place for that Player. 53.3.7 A Player registered on a Youth Loan may, provided this is agreed between the two clubs and the Player, continue to train with and/or play for his Parent Club (or club) in any match other than matches played as part of the Premier League Competition, League Competition, League Cup, Football Association Challenge Cup or Football League Trophy (First Team Matches). Participation by the Player in First Team Matches for the Loaning Club shall take precedence. 53.3.8 Any days on which the Player participates in a reserve team match and/or attends any training sessions for the Loaning Club (or club)) shall still count towards the period of the Youth Loan. 53.3.9 Except for the specific circumstances provided for in Regulations 53.3.11, 53.3.12 and 54, the minimum duration of any Emergency Loan and Youth Loan shall be 28 days and the maximum duration of an Emergency Loan is 93 days. The loan period is inclusive of the starting date and the finishing date. Youth Loans may not extend beyond the date of the Player's 21st birthday. 53.3.10 Emergency Loans and Youth Loans may contain a break clause but only where that break clause is exercisable after the expiry of the initial 28 day period of the loan. 53.3.11 Emergency Loans and Youth Loans involving goalkeepers (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause within the first 28 days. Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion. 53.3.12 The Executive shall have discretion to extend the maximum duration of 93 days for an Emergency Loan in extenuating circumstances, such circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion. 53.3.13 Subject to Regulation 53.3.14, where the Emergency Loan or Youth Loan of a Player expires (and is not renewed simultaneously) any subsequent Emergency Loan or Youth Loan of that Player to the same Club will be subject to a minimum duration of 28 days as set out in Regulation 53.3.9. 53.3.14 The cumulative total number of days of all Emergency Loans of one Player to the same Club may not exceed 93 days (unless extended by the Executive in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 53.3.12). This is an interesting one: "53.3.4 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulations 53.3.2 and 53.3.3, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan or Youth Loan: © in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 54." I make that 5pm TODAY.
Crazy Diamond Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Creating finance. Now what does that remind me of?
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Regardless of how dire Ohara is - on what possible basis can this be an emergency loan? Have half the squad gone down with scurvy?
Depressed of Shirley Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 So, since this thread started, how many managers have they had?, and what is the combined win percentage? And generally, on a scale of 1 to 1,000,000, how much entertainment have they provided for Saints fans in that period?
Sevvy Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 How can they get in anymore players, the size of their squad and isnt there a limit on loan players per team,
bridge too far Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 So how many loanees do they have on their books now? Or are emergency loans not classed as loans?
TwoPints Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 So, since this thread started, how many managers have they had?, and what is the combined win percentage? And generally, on a scale of 1 to 1,000,000, how much entertainment have they provided for Saints fans in that period? I'd say 1,000, 000 (on the entertainment scale rather than the number of managers!) Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
Waterside.saint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Emergency load rules: http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20130704/section-6-players_2293633_2125731#53 This is an interesting one: "53.3.4 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulations 53.3.2 and 53.3.3, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan or Youth Loan: © in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 54." I make that 5pm TODAY. Correct. Nothing there to say what constitutes an 'emergency'. According to http://www.e-comlaw.com/world-sports-law-report/article_template.asp?Contents=Yes&from=wslr&ID=1403 'The 'emergency loan' system -* under FA and Football League regulations - allows Football League clubs to take on loan players not receiving regular first team football, often to cover injuries. ' It also says 'FIFA orders end of 'emergency loans' in England by 2014/15', so they'll have to make the most of it while they can ...
trousers Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 I note that we're on page 1939. I wonder if it'll all be over by page 1945...?
Torres Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Chaps, don't forget that the FA, the FL, UEFA, FIFA, NASA, BP and LIDL all "have it in for them" so this loan will certainly be blocked by the authorities.
View From The Top Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 I don't think O'Hara has played a first team game since November. How much of his reported 20k per week will Wolves be expected to cover ? And the rest £38k + bonuses per week at Wolves.
CB Saint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Correct. Nothing there to say what constitutes an 'emergency'. According to http://www.e-comlaw.com/world-sports-law-report/article_template.asp?Contents=Yes&from=wslr&ID=1403 'The 'emergency loan' system -* under FA and Football League regulations - allows Football League clubs to take on loan players not receiving regular first team football, often to cover injuries. ' It also says 'FIFA orders end of 'emergency loans' in England by 2014/15', so they'll have to make the most of it while they can ... Easy then, Awford will be testing the reflexes of the really bad players with a sledgehammer this afternoon
buctootim Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 And the rest £38k + bonuses per week at Wolves. Any idea why they aren't playing him? Because he's sh ite or because they want him off the wage bill?
TopGun Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 O'Hara will get an unpleasant surprise if he does sign when he realises facilities are not what they once were... I just don't think he's the type of person who take a blow like that very well.
TopGun Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Any idea why they aren't playing him? Because he's sh ite or because they want him off the wage bill? He developed a poor attitude, probably from Danielle Lloyd.
Hatch Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 O'Hara will get an unpleasant surprise if he does sign when he realises facilities are not what they once were... I just don't think he's the type of person who take a blow like that very well. you seen his wife, he will settle for any old rubbish
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 27 March, 2014 Author Posted 27 March, 2014 If he mutually consented to leaving why did he tell Neil Allen that he spent the morning chasing loan players? Doesn't seem the sane actions of a man who knew he was about to depart?
View From The Top Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Any idea why they aren't playing him? Because he's sh ite or because they want him off the wage bill? They want him gone. They've even tried giving him away. He is just sitting tight and pulling in the ££.
Lazlo78 Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Easy then, Awford will be testing the reflexes of the really bad players with a sledgehammer this afternoon A pleonasm, surely; "the players" would suffice...
trousers Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/danielle-lloyd-sexy-picture-instagram-3286888
Torres Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 They want him gone. They've even tried giving him away. He is just sitting tight and pulling in the ££. And now, given that giving him away didn't work, they're getting nasty with him and sending him back to Pompey for a bit. That's pretty evil, tbf....
dronskisaint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 I note that we're on page 1939. I wonder if it'll all be over by page 1945...? Applause!
Marsdinho Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 I note that we're on page 1939. I wonder if it'll all be over by page 1945...? I reckon 1976 has a nice ring to it.
Minty Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 What exactly constitutes 'all over' though? How will we know when to close the thread?
Waterside.saint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 What exactly constitutes 'all over' though? How will we know when to close the thread? Its shaping up nicely for them to implode towards the end of the season, get relegated and this thread hit 100 000 posts all at the same time. That would work for me.
trousers Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=85882&page=15 It's not a case of people not wanting him, it's his wages. I don't believe for one second Jez would let O'Hara go out on loan while we pay 100% of his wages. Even a 20% contribution on his wages would cost another club £6-8k a week and that is the problem.
Danbert Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 They want him gone. They've even tried giving him away. He is just sitting tight and pulling in the ££. And, given that, what possible benefit for him is there in scrapping for points with a losing side at the bottom of League 2? I'd rather jog round the pitch for Wolves reserves.
trousers Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 The more I read about O'Hara's time at Wolves the more I hope he goes to Pompey. I can see him being sent off and falling out with the fans in his first game if his recent history is anything to go by.
OldNick Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Ohara is a decent player and he was the only one who shone when we played them in the Cup. He would make a massive difference to them.If they have to contribute 10k for 6 weeks that is nothing compared to the loss of going down.
Hockey_saint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 OK, own up, who's Ohio_Pompey? because the following just made me crease up! " Good decision made at last. Clear out his assistant(s) unless of course he is a specialist goalkeeping coach of which we need, but the chances are he'll follow Barker if he ever gets another job. Next, Mr Catlin, he has to go for brainwashing the board to employ Barker. Not a big enough thinker outside of a small club box. After him or at the same time some plan has to be made to have the Tesco deal stopped. We may get part of a new stand for the deal but we need to think bigger and further into the future and have all the land available for a rotation or ground shift. Beyond maybe our lifetime, so pay off Mr Robinson somehow or have him change his mind on the land deal. The club needs to have room to get to 30,000+ preferably 100 or so more capacity than our neighbors' (US Spellcheck). Sounds silly in the present climate, but that is no reason to have Tesco come in. Next manager? Not sure but he needs to be a Pompey man I believe, at least until we have a finance plan that could handle a larger character, as we creep back up."
Torres Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 When you're the bestest, there's always people chasing your title, wanting to steal your crown and your glory. From the BBC: League One leaders Wolverhampton Wanderers will be backed by 8,800 travelling fans at MK Dons on Saturday. Wolves could have reached the 10,000 targeted by fans following a social media campaign '10K2MK' encouraging mass numbers to go. But more than 8,800 would have compromised the safety of both sets of supporters. Wolves' away support is their biggest since taking 12,000 to Black Country rivals West Bromwich Albion in December 1990. "To get this type of following for an away game is unique," says Wolves boss Kenny Jackett. "It's not something I've experienced before." You should apply for the vacant position at Pompey, Kenny. Apparently this happens every away game for them....
Crazy Diamond Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Danny Hollands on loan? That will NOT be cheap. He left Bournemouth for Charlton because he was offered a hell of a lot more cash.
buctootim Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 If he mutually consented to leaving why did he tell Neil Allen that he spent the morning chasing loan players? Doesn't seem the sane actions of a man who knew he was about to depart? Strikes me as the actions of a man who refused to walk away for nothing and they needed a board meeting to sanction the paying up of his contract.
RedWillie Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 They'll stay up, they finally realised the Barker was mad just in time. They only need about six points IMHO .
sidthesquid Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 They'll stay up, they finally realised the Barker was mad just in time. They only need about six points IMHO . He does look quite mad, doesn't he? He always looked small-time to me, too - the sort that would be bawling out instructions at an under-9s game. Gutted to see him go to be honest, he really looked like he could lead them into the Conference.
Torres Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 Danny Hollands on loan? That will NOT be cheap. He left Bournemouth for Charlton because he was offered a hell of a lot more cash. Don't worry, they'll get their next parachute payment in August. Right? Right?
Waterside.saint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 I plan to wait until they've lost another three games on the bounce and then sow further discord by starting a viral 'Bring Back Barker' campaign
suewhistle Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 I didn't realise football clubs could do quantitative easing. I was going to use that joke! Luckily I read the whole thread first after I popped out for a short while. I could tell something had happened by the number of extra pages!.
Chez Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 I note that we're on page 1939. I wonder if it'll all be over by page 1945...? I assume this thread represents the allies, POL the Hun and Brighton's Northstand chat offers an Eastern front?
Waterside.saint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 I assume this thread represents the allies, POL the Hun and Brighton's Northstand chat offers an Eastern front? Who represents Japan?
suewhistle Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 For once the phrase "it'll be all over by Christmas" may well prove to be right...
Waterside.saint Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 For once the phrase "it'll be all over by Christmas" may well prove to be right... The sense of desperation down there is palpable now. Oh to be a fly on the wall of their fetid boardroom
Chez Posted 27 March, 2014 Posted 27 March, 2014 (edited) He does look quite mad, doesn't he? He always looked small-time to me, too - the sort that would be bawling out instructions at an under-9s game. Gutted to see him go to be honest, he really looked like he could lead them into the Conference. I agree, but at least now he can get back to tracking down the Jordan Belfort's of this world. Edited 27 March, 2014 by Chez
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