dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Pearcesport James Pearce For sake of abbreviation while evidence coming thick and fast, Redknapp and Mandaric might be R + M, and prosecution shortened to pros Former poopey Boss in being involved with prossies. No shock there then
tony13579 Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Why is the trial of Mandaric and Redknapp on the Pompey Takeover thread. Surely should be on a thread of its own? Mods?Originally Posted by Goalie66 This. NO! The redknap mandric case is an integril part of the wrongfull goings that caused the takeover thread and they are potentially a source of points deduction I argue it should stay.
rallyboy Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 how funny would it be if the prosecution introduces their first witness and he looks familiar - having just been extradited from the witness protection programme in the people's republic of Hayling? And for people asking why this subject is on here, the thread has evolved and this is the place for everything dirty about pompey. I would even suggest that the takeovers and tax evasion are to quote a phrase we might hear soon from the league, inextricably linked... Could Arry's defence be that he didn't know that the tax had been avoided - leaving Mandaric as the man who paid it to take the rap...either way, I can't see how the club could not be penalised if either is found guilty.
Wibble Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Can someone clarify that if they are subject to a winding up order then besides their bank accounts being frozen their Executives are UNABLE to dispose of any assets. In their case their players. Therefore they cannot sell anyone. Am I correct? I'm assuming that it is because the winding up petition has not been officially issued yet, it's expected this week. They probably have, at most, today and tomorrow to sell any assets to raise the cash to pay HMRC as I'm also assuming that once the notice gets advertised in The London Gazette that it is classed as being issued.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 From @pearcesport One of the original jurors has had to be discharged from jury so a new jury is now being selected. Haha...they've found a Saints fan...
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 From @pearcesport One of the original jurors has had to be discharged from jury so a new jury is now being selected. Haha...they've found a Saints fan... Come on....own up....which one of us was it...? :-)
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Pearcesport James Pearce Potential jurors being given same speech by judge as last time. Any with football prejudices that might impact judgement must declare them 1 minute ago It could take longer to select a jury than the length of the trial itself.... ;-)
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Pearcesport James Pearce Potential jurors being given same speech by judge as last time. Any with football prejudices that might impact judgement must declare them 1 minute ago It could take longer to select a jury than the length of the trial itself.... ;-) Judge 'Anyone who thinks Arry's a shifty sort, please stand up'
pedg Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 I'm assuming that it is because the winding up petition has not been officially issued yet, it's expected this week. They probably have, at most, today and tomorrow to sell any assets to raise the cash to pay HMRC as I'm also assuming that once the notice gets advertised in The London Gazette that it is classed as being issued. Are issued and advertised the same thing? I was under the impression that the order had been issued at the end of last week but had yet to be advertised so that people like banks and credit agencies know they need to act on it?
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Pearcesport James Pearce We're almost ready to go. Final speech to jurors first. Told trial should last 2 weeks. John Black QC will then outline prosecution case 1 minute ago
Deeps Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Hi Mods, Could we not have the Harry trial on a seperate thread?
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 DavidhBrown David Brown Judge to #Redknapp jury: "Many reports on the internet about this case - some of it is accurate, some ill-informed, some plain wrong." 2 minutes ago
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Hi Mods, Could we not have the Harry trial on a seperate thread? Yes you can - click on post New Thread in Lounge. There is room for two - we are viewing the proceedings to look for nuances and pointers to what happened at poopey. It has ramifications for them as even IF they have a miracle savious at the last moment, they could (a la Luton or even Swindon) have major impact on their position. In the Lounge there can be a thread that comments on "Arry, on football in general, on it's impact on Spuds and England. It's no big deal - us nutjobs are happy with where we are but would also I am sure have some omg Spud moments as well
sussexsaint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Judge 'Anyone who thinks Arry's a shifty sort' date=' please stand up' [/quote'] Christ this really could take ages
Wibble Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Are issued and advertised the same thing? I was under the impression that the order had been issued at the end of last week but had yet to be advertised so that people like banks and credit agencies know they need to act on it? I think the confusion is that The Guardian said it had been issued, The News and other media sources saying it is to be issued this week. I'm only going on assumptions - seemed to make sense coupled with them only taking cash for ticket sales from tomorrow onwards. If it has already been issued then they cannot sell any players. http://www.companyrescue.co.uk/company-rescue/guides/what-is-a-winding-up-petition I might be wrong...I usually am
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Pearcesport James Pearce Prosecution say the payments of $295,000 were "bungs or offshore bonuses which parties had no intention of declaring for tax"
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 DavidhBrown David Brown Harry #Redknapp "bung" was paid from Portsmouth chairman's personal bank account, court hears. DavidhBrown David Brown Trial told #Redknapp got $145,000 in Monaco bank after being appointed Portsmouth manager in May 2002. Previously director of football.
SuperMikey Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Thank god that people are finally realising that R + M are massive crooks! Bout time too.
Matthew Le God Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 This thread will sail through 1,000 pages in the coming days.
pedg Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Can't see how the court case could take 2 weeks. Once assumes the fact the money was transferred cannot be disputed as one assumes there is a fairly cast iron paper trail. So the only thing to be determined is if it should be subject to tax or not which would involve H&M coming up with a good reason why it was tax free.
SuperMikey Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 @Pearcesport Prosecution say Redknapp "no ordinary employee" and "unusually talented". Say he "in recent times gained widespread popularity"
Weston Super Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 No, I'm not worried at all, because About 99% of been what's been written on here about how we were "toast" has turned out to be utter rubbish. And yet there are still a significant number of you who are clinging to the idea that we're somehow going to hell in a handcart, it's just a matter of time. Well, two YEARS into this thread, it aint happened yet. I don't mind, it's your board- I find it a good laugh now, but we're at the fag end of a story that bar a few little crumbs that won't amount to anything, is everyone else's chip-paper.... I do love PFC 123s predictions. Oh, how he has such a success rate - this little nugget from June this year - he tells us back then that they'll be fine. Absolutely nothing wrong with the then new owners, everything hunky dory, nothing to see here Every time he posts that all is rosy in the garden, something catastrophic happens. Let's hope he stays true to form http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?14620-Pompey-Takeover-Saga&p=1076544#post1076544
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Two threads?! Now I'm really going to get fook all work done.
Petersfield Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 how funny would it be if the prosecution introduces their first witness and he looks familiar - having just been extradited from the witness protection programme in the people's republic of Hayling? And for people asking why this subject is on here, the thread has evolved and this is the place for everything dirty about pompey. I would even suggest that the takeovers and tax evasion are to quote a phrase we might hear soon from the league, inextricably linked... Could Arry's defence be that he didn't know that the tax had been avoided - leaving Mandaric as the man who paid it to take the rap...either way, I can't see how the club could not be penalised if either is found guilty. Hi Mods, Could we not have the Harry trial on a seperate thread? No!!! See bold above! You're obviously following this thread already so what's the problem?
SuperMikey Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 @Pearcesport Jury told that when Redknapp was director of football at Portsmouth his contract entitled him to 10% of net profit on any transfers Pretty cushty deal that 'Arry, pay any tax on it?
saintjay77 Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 I do love PFC 123s predictions. Oh, how he has such a success rate - this little nugget from June this year - he tells us back then that they'll be fine. Absolutely nothing wrong with the then new owners, everything hunky dory, nothing to see here Every time he posts that all is rosy in the garden, something catastrophic happens. Let's hope he stays true to form http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?14620-Pompey-Takeover-Saga&p=1076544#post1076544 lol I was wondering if someone would go back and find that. Thought at the time he was tempting fate when all didnt look well for the blue phew.
saintjay77 Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 And for the record this case does (or could) involve Pompey very muchly so rather than dipping in and out of here to another thread i'd like the updates to be here please.
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 (edited) DavidhBrown David Brown Peter Storie, Portsmouth chief executive, ordered club to pay Harry #Redknapp 5% of £2.3million profit on Peter Crouch sale in March 2002. 59 seconds ago DavidhBrown David Brown Tax trial: "Mr #Redknapp did not wait long to take steps to make sure that he got what he thought he was due in payments from the chairman" 39 seconds ago Pearcesport James Pearce Prosecution allege that Redknapp instead received secret payment from Mandaric and in April 2002 Redknapp flew to Monaco to open account 57 seconds ago Edited 23 January, 2012 by trousers
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 DavidhBrown David Brown Harry #Redknapp flew to Monaco to open private bank account under the name "Rosie 47", the name of his dog and year of birth, court told. 23 seconds ago
smackalec Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Prosecution say Redknapp's share of Crouch transfer was £115,473. Would have been double if contract not changed James Pearce@Pearcesport4m Prosecution say Crouch sold just 9 days after new Redknapp contract reduced his share from 10% to 5% James Pearce@Pearcesport6m Jury told example of Peter Crouch. Bought for £1.25 million and sold for £4.5 million James Pearce@Pearcesport10m When Redknapp moved from director of football to manager in May 2002 his profit on transfers reduced to 5% James Pearce@PearcesportReply Retweeted Favorite · Open Jury told that when Redknapp was director of football at Portsmouth his contract entitled him to 10% of net profit on any transfers Wonder if he had any sort of contract in place like that when he was here
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 I already consider him guilty...haha how the FOOK can they spin this the other way...?! Oh yes, it involves Pompey.
notnowcato Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Could someone tweet the number of twitches so far? Thanking you.
Matthew Le God Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Redknapp had a 10% clause in his contract. The Crouch deal Pompey saved 5% because Mandaric paid half of it personally and avoided tax. Points deduction?
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Named his Monaco Account after his dog and his year of birth?!? Shrewd Businessman indeed.
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Minor Pedant alert There is no airport in Monaco so 'arry couldn't have flown to it.... And yes I know there's a heliport but Oh well whatever
chocco boxo Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 This is the way to Long Lartin la lala lalalal
Um Bongo Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 DavidhBrown David Brown Harry #Redknapp flew to Monaco to open private bank account under the name "Rosie 47", the name of his dog and year of birth, court told. 23 seconds ago Genius.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Oi ARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No, hang on..... ROSIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
Bearsy Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 (edited) I already consider him guilty...haha how the FOOK can they spin this the other way...?! Oh yes, it involves Pompey. Do you never watch TV? It always starts this way the prosecution are giving their evidence and you think "oh yeah they've got him bang to rights" but then it's Ironside's turn and he comes out with a last minute bid of evidence or witness or something and you go "oh my God! he's innocent! I would've convicted him wrongly if it wasn't for Ironside!" Edit: I might've meant Perry Mason. Which one was the cripple? Edited 23 January, 2012 by Bearsy
Petersfield Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Minor Pedant alert There is no airport in Monaco so 'arry couldn't have flown to it.... And yes I know there's a heliport but Oh well whatever ****!!! The whole trial could collapse over this!!
latter day saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Could someone tweet the number of twitches so far? Thanking you. about the same as your avatar
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Do you never watch TV? It always starts this way the prosecution are giving their evidence and you think "oh yeah they've got him bang to rights" but then it's Ironside's turn and he comes out with a last minute bid of evidence or witness or something and you go "oh my God! he's innocent! I would've convicted him wrongly if it wasn't for Ironside!" Edit: I might've meant Perry Mason. Which one was the cripple? Sorry I don't watch TV, I'm always reading this thread. Nah, he's toast. Spot the theme....?!??! We'll be up to 3000 posts by next Thursday...haha
tony13579 Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 @pearcesport now has 33023 folowers, he is gaining a new follower every 7 seconds
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Jeez why TODAY of all days. I've got a busy evening ahead of me re-wiring the fecking Satellite so I can watch the footie on my flat screen and I know if I go downstairs, do that, cook dinner & have a beer I'll have 240 pages to catch up on. Oh in other news - didn't someone post that the London Gazette gets published at 3:30 - so about 8 minutes to wait for more fun then
Matthew Le God Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 (edited) @pearcesport now has 33023 folowers, he is gaining a new follower every 7 seconds He "allegedly" framed Redknapp in an elaborate scam to boost his followers. Edited 23 January, 2012 by Matthew Le God
latter day saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 He framed Redknapp in an elaborate scam to boost his followers. did you pick that up from the News ?
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Jeez why TODAY of all days. Oh in other news - didn't someone post that the London Gazette gets published at 3:30 - so about 8 minutes to wait for more fun then I think it will be in Wednesdays. This months was due on the 20th iirc, advert would have gone in today, 2 days to sort it out.
saint si Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/recent/10/corp-insolvency-winding-up-court/petitions-companies/start=1 Friday's issue of the London Gazette now online. Pompey not in there. Watch this space tomorrow...
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